So basically you're the greatest FPS player in the history of the world and have clearly participated in many spec ops missions IRL as well, more than likely showing up the SEALs, Spetsnaz and SAS multiple times. I imagine you're also handsome, on the Forbes list and currently involved with no less than three Victoria's Secret supermodels.

But you still suck at watching your own ass and apparently don't roll with anyone smart enough to watch it for you, either. So you get a GG. Newb. Go play Call of Modern Battle Duty Black Ghost Field Ops 193: III Edition (with exclusive GameStop pre-order bonus!), seems like it'd be a better fit for you.

Let me know how your "BUT I CAN TURN REAL FAST IRL BRO!!!" argument works for you. Because clearly IRL, everyone can maintain perfect aim while flailing around and running left and right and jumping up and down. Clearly IRL, you have tested these same several hundred kilo suits we have in game and you've found that you still turned faster and more than likely knowing how badass you are, had even more perfectly smooth and unwavering aim as well.

I know for me, it was just last week when I dove out of an aircraft around a quarter of a mile high in the sky and punched at the ground so hard it recoiled in horror and allowed me to land softly and unharmed. Then I went running around with a gatling gun I ripped off of an aircraft slaughtering Iron Man knockoffs left and right while some guy followed me around with a magic non-laser that made the copious amount of bullet wounds I had just taken magically disappear. Then I paused for a minute to use my PIP-Boy 3000 to designate an area for a magic robot spaceship to pewpew with its lasers because I had been such an awesome guy in combat that day.

tl;dr - you're a bad, your idea is awful, and you should go play hello kitty island because you're not cut out for Dust

in short (I've waited so long for the perfect time to say this)... HTFU

You get shot in the back in real life by a shotgun, your dead.

I wrote this in an earlier post:

Sometimes a merc is forced into a 1-on-1 battle whether or not he/she intended to get into one. And of those times, sometimes there is no cover. And sometimes it would be helpful to turn quickly and return fire as a last resort.

And why is "helpful" an important feature for the person who strategized poorly? If you're on your own without a squad, in the open with no cover, and someone ambushes you from behind, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to "help you out" in that situation. you have played the game of Dust 514 poorly and you will likely lose a clone due to your bad gameplay.

I wrote this in an earlier post:

Sometimes a merc is forced into a 1-on-1 battle whether or not he/she intended to get into one. And of those times, sometimes there is no cover. And sometimes it would be helpful to turn quickly and return fire as a last resort.

if so powerful you are, why do you flee?

Apparently, you haven't played dust very long. There are many reasons why you might get caught alone. Here's an example, since you're incapable of using your own imagination:

While piloting/riding a dropship you begin to take so much fire that your ship is imminently going down, so you bail out and apply the inertia dampener before you hit the ground. This attracts the attention of an enemy who just happens to be at your 6 and immediately opens fire on you. Due to slow turn rate, you perish :(

Various other scenarios exist where a person must react to getting caught alone. This is a situation that every merc should be prepared to encounter. Empowering mercs with the ability to turn more quickly would be an enhancement to the game, in my opinion.

You obviously have only one play style which limits your experience and understanding of complex situations, but there are many circumstances where turning speed is a critical element.

Ten that is your fault for letting your dropship get shot at.
People turn fast enough as it is, your head needs to be on a swivel.

Ten that is your fault for letting your dropship get shot at.
People turn fast enough as it is, your head needs to be on a swivel.

The only thing similiar to this that could be added to game is a 'reverse' button which lets you do a 180 degree turn.

How has this thread gone 6 pages? No, there doesnt need to be a feature that helps make up for your lack of ability to play the game.

1 - Battlefield awareness
2 - Understanding tactics
3 - Going for cover if you get hit, regroup and fight from an advantage


Summary - Stop expecting a game to make up for your shortcomings. If you want a 180 no-scope OHK then go play COD.

Read the thread.

I am in favor of this. +1

I perform regular 360s during the game. Nothing you say can convince me that this is not a much needed function, or the turn rate needs to be increased.

You have only proven your lack of understanding of battlefield scenarios.

When I get shot, by the time I turn to face the person shooting me I am already dead.

In reality, I could turn much more quickly.

I recommend that double clicking L1 would immediately face your avatar toward the opponent that just shot you.

This is not auto aim, but a simple mechanic to forego turtle-speed turning (X sensitivity at 100%).

At least I could get off a shot or two before death.

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UPDATE: It has been discussed that a quick 90 or 180 would be helpful as opposed to facing the opponent.

When I get shot, by the time I turn to face the person shooting me I am already dead.

In reality, I could turn much more quickly.

I recommend that double clicking L1 would immediately face your avatar toward the opponent that just shot you.

This is not auto aim, but a simple mechanic to forego turtle-speed turning (X sensitivity at 100%).

At least I could get off a shot or two before death.

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UPDATE: It has been discussed that a quick 90 or 180 would be helpful as opposed to facing the opponent.

To the contrary, you have only managed to show your inability to be facing your enemy.

Ten that is your fault for letting your dropship get shot at.
People turn fast enough as it is, your head needs to be on a swivel.

Then truth be told if you are in a Scout suit you shouldn't really be getting shot at all. Your suit is fragile, not designed for 1v1, giving you a L1 double tap, won't improve your chances.

There is no need for a function that disadvantages the guy who took the ti e and effort to shoot you from a position of where he wouldn't getmshot.

Yes the construct of the game do account for armour, but that doesn't mean you should be able to turn round and blast the guy who got a superior position on you.

I have and I still think its wrong. You are asking for a crutch to aide you against someone who was able to outsmart you. Advocating for faster turn speed is fine but nothing that helps you identify an attacker.

There always has to be a risk/reward scenario. If you want to have faster turn speed then you have to be ok with a much more sensitive aiming mechanic to go along with it

Wow... 6 pages and no likes.

Dude, you just crashed and burned.

Simply because one is engaged in a frontal assault, does not infer that he/she was outsmarted by getting flanked. If that were the case, then the only smart thing to do would be to snipe from inside a concrete box with a little peephole just large enough to aim and shoot through.

It is a constraint satisfaction problem. By design, the game does not allow a soldier to fire in two directions at once, therefore he/she must choose a target to fire at.

My point is that the game has short comings: rotation velocity. It is an opinion and is neither right nor wrong, so let go.

Your arguments are normative statements.



Normative statements cannot be used to logically deduce anything and are therefore utterly worthless. You probably exercise worthlessness on a daily basis, so be advised that when people disregard everything you say and think of you as having no value to the group, it is probably due to your lack of rational thinking.

Regardless of whether or not the community wants the double click L1 function or faster turning speeds, my arguments are based on facts.

1. More than zero soldiers find themselves in a variety of scenarios while on the battle field.
2. Due to the constraints imposed by those scenarios, a soldier may find that he/she has been flanked.

These are facts of war and the logical conclusion is that naturally, there will be occasions where a soldier has a need to quickly turn around. You claim the opposite.

You lose.

Learn from it.

You loose
Learn from it

Hold on, your telling my entire arguement is useless because you can't logically deduce anything from it?
You can't deduce the fact
1) If someone flanks you there is/should never a counter
2) That being flanked is often a result of poor awareness
3) That allowing someone to use your function can be exploited terribly
Take a leaf from your own book and stop getting shot in the back.

If someone flanks you there is/should never a counter

being flanked is often a result of poor awareness

That allowing someone to use your function can be exploited terribly