The turn speed is "balanced". It takes me, a heavy with HMG an age to turn toward my opponent. A scout on the other hand can whip around pretty quickly. It is far from perfect, but I don't think scouts want HMG heavies to be able to double click L1 and unload in their face.

that can be easily abused...
COD514 with aim bot assist
just keep hitting l1 and then everyone will QQ about it being COD514

I'm not prone to say this often, in fact, this is the first time I've ever said it in a serious manner, but... GET GUD!
You literally just asked for an actual aim-bot. If you can't aim in a tracking shooter, you need to leave.

Protip: turn your X and Y sensitivity to 100 if this is a problem for you

I must be against this idea. It exists in a few of the COD campaigns. It is OP even in that circumstance.

Is he for real???? Just turn your sensitivity up man, and learn how to aim. This is hilarious.

And I thought aim assist was bad...

Unlike all the trolls. I want to actually state why i think this is bad.


Flanking, it's a great tactic. This outways that, if you can instantly turn around, flanking is insanely harder.

Hold on, so double tapping L1 automatically turns you to face the last person to shoot you?

Let's run a scenario
Scout Shotgun, Heavy HMG, you are gonna end up with scout all over the walls.
No offence, but for someone who's name isn't Spkr, Worst Idea Ever . . . . . . . . So Far

I love those reality comparisons. So, in reality you would be dead before you even recognize that you've been shot at. Apart from that this idea is really bad. People should watch their back or rely in teammates to do so.

Give MORE TACTICS, not more slight of hand reflex's.

No in real life they die, they don't get an opportunity to react. Get it?

Give MORE TACTICS, not more slight of hand reflex's.

... but that doesn't mean you should be able to turn round and blast the guy who got a superior position on you.

... You don't just take a bullet and automatically face the direction of the shooter.

1) If you are in a squad stagger your formation, don't just stand in a line. You should be bunny hoping between cover anyway so as to minimze up time.
2) Get better scanners, either have a logi with an active or trick out a scout with passives.
3) If you are dying to shots in the back learn to check your corners better.

Or maybe your just not fast enough 1 and 2 work just fine for me.

I can't wait to automatically kill everyone behind me with a heavy!

LoL at OP. You serious? Someone said he was running scout, of course you're gonna die fast. I can usually turn and look at the guy before I die in my logi suit :)

Then truth be told if you are in a Scout suit you shouldn't really be getting shot at all. Your suit is fragile, not designed for 1v1, giving you a L1 double tap, won't improve your chances.

You're in a scout suit first of all. You should be in the background as much as possible. And if not, you're in a scout suit. You chose the profession. Understand that death comes quicker for a scout than any other class. Try more preventative methods or if it isn't working, switch to another fit until the rush blows over and you can return to scouting.

The OP needs a medal lol, i'm going to post in in the War Room lol

You're in a scout suit, you shouldn't be enticing any ideas that give you full on frontal confrontation. That is your kryptonite. Your suit is not made for the ground and pound assault.

Again, no offense but you didn't think this one out. ...

First of all, yes, it is auto-aim, stop saying it isn't. The fact that you can instantly turn around and point your crosshairs at an enemy, who used valid tactics to get behind you and start shooting you in the back, completely negates the usefulness of flanking when anyone can just doubletap L1 to counter anyone trying to shoot them in the back.

Don't forget the fact that even in real combat, when you get shot, you don't turn around and try to outgun someone who already got the drop on you, no matter how good your reflexes are. You find cover, assess the situation and then try to engage the enemy when you are prepared. You should do the same.

Then there's the issue of balance. How good would this auto-aim be? Where would it be pointing in the enemy's body? Is there a damage threshold? With weapons like the rail rifle or HMG, this feature would be exploited all day long and make their users nigh-impossible to flank.

I get it, you're turning too slow even if you have your sensitivity maxed, but it's been like this with console shooters ever since the days of the first Halo. If you don't like it, get a mouse and keyboard or switch to PC, don't post dumb ideas like these that ruin the game for everyone. For the first time, I'm seriously saying this:

HTFU

EDIT: Ad hominem fallacies don't make your idea any better, quite the contrary in fact.

You're not understanding nor have you read my posts. Understand what I'm saying to you.

You want to double tap L to turn to face your opponent, which means, you give me a full frontal dropsuit. You are engaging in a 1v1 battle, do you understand that? By double tapping L, you want to engage in a battle with someone who more than likely has more HP than you.

I love it when a scout choses to chase me as I back up. All I have to do is hit his weak little head and he's down. Scouts are not to engage in 1v1 battles. You suggesting to double tap L is a admitting that you want to engage in a 1v1 battle with whoever is shooting you.

Get the hell outta there!!!

I'm trying to help you understand the simple nuances of war here. So why are you trying to be sarcastic? I'm trying to help you brosef. There's no need to tell me to get a clue when you are suggesting a easy way to face your opponent as if you will win the gun battle. The only way you will do that is against a very inexperienced, bad aiming player. The majority will drop you and you will still be upset.

Upgrade skill. Play as a scout.

Erm... no in reality if you are shot from behind, you are most likely dead

LOL......this thread. Over 4 Pages the only thing you have done is highlight the fact that not only are you stubborn as a Mule, cognitively distorted, mentally lackluster, oblivious to your blissful ignorance, and obviously lack any form of wisdom/experience in any form of combat.....be it digital or actual, but also provide multiple quotables that display irrefutable evidence that you may actually be the worst Gamer in the history of existence. This even when compared to those who are mentally handicapped, with social disorders, and even "Vegetables"......as I am more likely to find coherent informative knowledge in their ramblings while faux hearing than I would if I read a book you wrote on the subject.....attentively undivided.

Great idea shotgun scout takes time and effort to flank an enemy fires a shot, and the enemy doubletaps L1 and holds R1 = dead scout. Honestly if you cant react in time it simply means the guy who flanked you did his job well having an I win button such as this is a horrible idea.

I'm still wondering how this is even a problem when the game is built around running in a squad of 6 players. Just have your squadmates watching your flanks instead of begging for changes that fundamentally alter the gameplay.

... atleast in DUST if I get shot in the back I usually manage to atleast land a few shots on my opponent ...

1 guy agrees, the rest of us told you it was a terrible idea that qualifies as stubborn , becausd you are still going.

So basically you're the greatest FPS player in the history of the world and have clearly participated in many spec ops missions IRL as well, more than likely showing up the SEALs, Spetsnaz and SAS multiple times. I imagine you're also handsome, on the Forbes list and currently involved with no less than three Victoria's Secret supermodels.

But you still suck at watching your own ass and apparently don't roll with anyone smart enough to watch it for you, either. So you get a GG. Newb. Go play Call of Modern Battle Duty Black Ghost Field Ops 193: III Edition (with exclusive GameStop pre-order bonus!), seems like it'd be a better fit for you.

Let me know how your "BUT I CAN TURN REAL FAST IRL BRO!!!" argument works for you. Because clearly IRL, everyone can maintain perfect aim while flailing around and running left and right and jumping up and down. Clearly IRL, you have tested these same several hundred kilo suits we have in game and you've found that you still turned faster and more than likely knowing how badass you are, had even more perfectly smooth and unwavering aim as well.

I know for me, it was just last week when I dove out of an aircraft around a quarter of a mile high in the sky and punched at the ground so hard it recoiled in horror and allowed me to land softly and unharmed. Then I went running around with a gatling gun I ripped off of an aircraft slaughtering Iron Man knockoffs left and right while some guy followed me around with a magic non-laser that made the copious amount of bullet wounds I had just taken magically disappear. Then I paused for a minute to use my PIP-Boy 3000 to designate an area for a magic robot spaceship to pewpew with its lasers because I had been such an awesome guy in combat that day.

tl;dr - you're a bad, your idea is awful, and you should go play hello kitty island because you're not cut out for Dust

in short (I've waited so long for the perfect time to say this)... HTFU

You get shot in the back in real life by a shotgun, your dead.

And why is "helpful" an important feature for the person who strategized poorly? If you're on your own without a squad, in the open with no cover, and someone ambushes you from behind, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to "help you out" in that situation. you have played the game of Dust 514 poorly and you will likely lose a clone due to your bad gameplay.

if so powerful you are, why do you flee?

Ten that is your fault for letting your dropship get shot at.
People turn fast enough as it is, your head needs to be on a swivel.

The only thing similiar to this that could be added to game is a 'reverse' button which lets you do a 180 degree turn.

How has this thread gone 6 pages? No, there doesnt need to be a feature that helps make up for your lack of ability to play the game.

1 - Battlefield awareness
2 - Understanding tactics
3 - Going for cover if you get hit, regroup and fight from an advantage


Summary - Stop expecting a game to make up for your shortcomings. If you want a 180 no-scope OHK then go play COD.

To the contrary, you have only managed to show your inability to be facing your enemy.

Ten that is your fault for letting your dropship get shot at.
People turn fast enough as it is, your head needs to be on a swivel.

Then truth be told if you are in a Scout suit you shouldn't really be getting shot at all. Your suit is fragile, not designed for 1v1, giving you a L1 double tap, won't improve your chances.

There is no need for a function that disadvantages the guy who took the ti e and effort to shoot you from a position of where he wouldn't getmshot.

Yes the construct of the game do account for armour, but that doesn't mean you should be able to turn round and blast the guy who got a superior position on you.

I have and I still think its wrong. You are asking for a crutch to aide you against someone who was able to outsmart you. Advocating for faster turn speed is fine but nothing that helps you identify an attacker.

There always has to be a risk/reward scenario. If you want to have faster turn speed then you have to be ok with a much more sensitive aiming mechanic to go along with it

Wow... 6 pages and no likes.

Dude, you just crashed and burned.

Hold on, your telling my entire arguement is useless because you can't logically deduce anything from it?
You can't deduce the fact
1) If someone flanks you there is/should never a counter
2) That being flanked is often a result of poor awareness
3) That allowing someone to use your function can be exploited terribly
Take a leaf from your own book and stop getting shot in the back.

If someone flanks you there is/should never a counter

being flanked is often a result of poor awareness

That allowing someone to use your function can be exploited terribly

Slash your wrists to exit son.

Is this serious? Don't stand out in the open, PROBLEM SOLVED. Always stay near cover, when they shoot you get behind the cover. Simple. If they're behind you then you deserve to die for not knowing your surroundings.

Even the 90/180 degree turn would be ridiculous. If anything was to be implemented I'd say give us higher sensitivity. Compared to most FPS games I've played the sensitivity in Dust is far below par.

If anything was to be implemented I'd say give us higher sensitivity. Compared to most FPS games I've played the sensitivity in Dust is far below par.

Hashed Out? No you've ignored ir because it doesn't fit your reasoning.

I'm completely unrelated to the OP and actually think that he handled this thread in the worst possible way.

I wouldn't have quad-posted to answer every single post and I wouldn't have counterattacked with equally low level of expression.
I would have waited for ten or so replies and then adressed the concerns of the commenters and edited the OP.