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ReGnYuM wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

ReGnYuM wrote:

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else?

In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level".

Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual.

PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail.

Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us.

No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place.

If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems.

Just try to take my billions space commy

We wouldn't need to, CCP would.

If that causes you to quit, oh well......

1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule

2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC.

FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots.

Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands

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God Hates Lags Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 782	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:32:00 - [1] - Quote As of this time, every single district in Molden Heath has been locked. PC as of now is over for the time being. All CCP has to do to end this shutdown is hot fix PC so that clone packs are not refunded if no one shows up to a battle. That's all. No complicated changes, no revamps, just this one simple fix. Just wanted to put this up here so people who are not in PC or do not check the war room are aware of it. With hope CCP should be able to fix this fairly quickly. Doubles ISK
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2328	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:39:00 - [2] - Quote Meh Intelligence is OP
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1377	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:41:00 - [3] - Quote They should hotfix removing it and all of the isk it has generated. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 363	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:45:00 - [4] - Quote They should also massively reduce ISK generation on districts with that hotfix and reduce the cost of clone packs! :) Hopefully they fix this, it's not like it's been going on for months and months and months... oh, wait, it has. I do hope this forces the issue though. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
BobThe 844-1 CakeMan Murder Cakes Of Doom 1549	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:46:00 - [5] - Quote really cool. PC was lame and laggy anyway. Main - BobThe843CakeMan Ringing for PC for a price, msg for details. Prices are based on who ur facing and how i feel.
Maken Tosch Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 6643	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:48:00 - [6] - Quote Definitely needs an overhaul. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer *CLOSED BETA VETERAN SINCE REPLICATION BUILD*
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 98	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:49:00 - [7] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Meh As long as isk earned from PC doesn't stomp my ass all over the place then I really don't care. They can make 500 mil a day, as long as their inventory is separate from public domain ( public match suit inventory and PC match suit inventory, same dual inventory for vehicles too). FAME
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5541	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:53:00 - [8] - Quote I remember they said that they would hotfix the LR back to relevancy, then came back a few days later saying that the LR was something something unreal engine something and would require going through QA, meaning it wasn't happening. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case here, too. Never forget May 14, 2013: Beta 2.0
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1380	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:53:00 - [9] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Meh As long as isk earned from PC doesn't stomp my ass all over the place then I really don't care. They can make 500 mil a day, as long as their inventory is separate from public domain ( public match suit inventory and PC match suit inventory, same dual inventory for vehicles too). The only thing that will do is make the barrier to PC entry even more insurmountable and force anyone who wants in to become a renter or try the normal way and ragequit since there would be no way that they could compete on a financial level without having a full 1300 man corp grinding for several hours per day. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 337	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:57:00 - [10] - Quote PC has been broken for quite some time. Now that the lag has been fixed, locking has virtually stopped PC battles for all except the extremely patient. FIX PC!!!! BRING BACK CORP BATTLES!!! Please. :)

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 98	Posted - 2014.01.29 18:57:00 - [11] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Meh As long as isk earned from PC doesn't stomp my ass all over the place then I really don't care. They can make 500 mil a day, as long as their inventory is separate from public domain ( public match suit inventory and PC match suit inventory, same dual inventory for vehicles too). The only thing that will do is make the barrier to PC entry even more insurmountable and force anyone who wants in to become a renter or try the normal way and ragequit since there would be no way that they could compete on a financial level without having a full 1300 man corp grinding for several hours per day. Well, could PC money be kept out and have separate inventory while allowing public funds to enter PC? The idea is to keep PC elements out of pubs. FAME
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1114	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:00:00 - [12] - Quote Bye PC, you wont be missed. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 214	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:06:00 - [13] - Quote CCP please fix the game. CCP please gives us basic options on the level of play. All of these super rich full proto corps are going to ruin the game experience of pretty much the other 90% of the casual playerbase. Dont remove anything CCP we just ask for options. Oh and also REMOVE AIM ASSIST and fix KB/M or just abandon support for KB/M because as much fun as I have sometimes, its not fun using a gimped control system that you said you would support from day 1 (virtually)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1382	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:23:00 - [14] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Meh As long as isk earned from PC doesn't stomp my ass all over the place then I really don't care. They can make 500 mil a day, as long as their inventory is separate from public domain ( public match suit inventory and PC match suit inventory, same dual inventory for vehicles too). The only thing that will do is make the barrier to PC entry even more insurmountable and force anyone who wants in to become a renter or try the normal way and ragequit since there would be no way that they could compete on a financial level without having a full 1300 man corp grinding for several hours per day. Well, could PC money be kept out and have separate inventory while allowing public funds to enter PC? The idea is to keep PC elements out of pubs. So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1115	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:25:00 - [15] - Quote Jita-like riots are finally happening!!!! Enough is enough CCP. Prepare for 1.8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPhISgw3I2w
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1690	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:31:00 - [16] - Quote everyone discussed shutting down districts when pc was established originally but the math worked out that it owuld not be profitable. then they reduced the cost of clone packs and made it more profitable, leading ot the situation we have now. it's not hard to make this not profitable.
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro Omega Elite Mercs INC. 101	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:33:00 - [17] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. FAME
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 1990	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:40:00 - [18] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1386	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:41:00 - [19] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Even if that Isk isn't allowed to be used to fund pubstomping, it will lead to the same outcome for those who are new to PC and trying to break into it. They will effectively be paying to get pubstomped. There is a massive difference between a fiscally responsible FW/pub player and someone funded through PC. In the first case, you make wise choices and earn your Isk battle to battle. In the second case, you make Isk no matter what, unless of course you are a blind, deaf quadriplegic with thalidomide arms. AFAIK, they change the payout scheme in PC to make it more actively generated, though they never did anything about the beginning of PC where you got Isk simply because you had a District and sat with your thumb up your ass. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1386	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:42:00 - [20] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy We wouldn't need to, CCP would. If that causes you to quit, oh well...... Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2287	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:44:00 - [21] - Quote CCP wrote: Meh Natalie Portman.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 846	Posted - 2014.01.29 19:58:00 - [22] - Quote God Hates Lags wrote: As of this time, every single district in Molden Heath has been locked. PC as of now is over for the time being. All CCP has to do to end this shutdown is hot fix PC so that clone packs are not refunded if no one shows up to a battle. That's all. No complicated changes, no revamps, just this one simple fix. Just wanted to put this up here so people who are not in PC or do not check the war room are aware of it. With hope CCP should be able to fix this fairly quickly. And then people will join with one member on both sides of the battle. It's a tad more complicated than that. xD ROFL PC Coordinator Have a pony
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 1991	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:12:00 - [23] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy We wouldn't need to, CCP would. If that causes you to quit, oh well...... 1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule 2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC. FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1109	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:15:00 - [24] - Quote I see no point in PC. It is not the link to EVE that matters or really affects anything. It is a crap stopgap that feeds the console kiddie epeen. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
CUBS UNbanned Alt 162	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:16:00 - [25] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy We wouldn't need to, CCP would. If that causes you to quit, oh well...... 1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule 2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC. FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots. ah 1 of the underprivileged going in eh? half a bil after the respec? I guess that's not pitiful or anything... I guess Don't drink the koolaid... Rampage made it from scratch and didn't wash his hands

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 4569	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:16:00 - [26] - Quote It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 1991	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:20:00 - [27] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. Ah Richer get Richer ...and the poor just complain moar Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 367	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:24:00 - [28] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. But they got Xmas too! I wish i got both. I really hope you guys finally do something. Please fix the mic bubble bug...
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1051	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:26:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. How difficult is it to stop refunding clone packs? I'm not a programmer but that seems like something that could easily be hot fixed. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 358	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:38:00 - [30] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. O you mean your guys are still alive over there i was thinking you all died from the Smog ! well now hows it feel for them to know there in the real world version of the game I AM ALIVE ? Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!



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