DUST Search - PC has just been shut down.

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

ReGnYuM wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else?

In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level".

Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual.

PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail.

Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us.

No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place.

If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems.

Just try to take my billions space commy

We wouldn't need to, CCP would.

If that causes you to quit, oh well......

1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule

2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC.

FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots.

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 1 post(s)
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1390	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:49:00 - [31] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy We wouldn't need to, CCP would. If that causes you to quit, oh well...... 1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule 2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC. FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots. Please, continue to illustrate why you'll be even less missed than the cancer that is PC when you finally quit trolling and move onto the next game you want to kill. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4225	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:50:00 - [32] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. Why is it that whenever I here a Dev speak of CCP Shanghai they are always on vacation.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 368	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:52:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. I can't help it. I think the standard line of we are aware of it is just ridiculous. Come on guys, this has been going on forever. You might not want a bandaid but maybe it's time to call one guy back from holidays and have him fix it. Seems like the correct punishment for having left it for so long :) Please fix the mic bubble bug...
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1390	Posted - 2014.01.29 20:55:00 - [34] - Quote Ares 514 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. I can't help it. I think the standard line of we are aware of it is just ridiculous. Come on guys, this has been going on forever. You might not want a bandaid but maybe it's time to call one guy back from holidays and have him fix it. Seems like the correct punishment for having left it for so long :) Didn't we tell them it was broken before it was even officially released and yet they still insisted on releasing the broken passive faucet. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 1992	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:01:00 - [35] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: So, essentially freeze all PC income so that it is only something to have that looks nice on paper and has absolutely no bearing anywhere else? In that case, why not just remove it entirely? If you are talking about only allowing PC funds to be used to fund PC, it comes back to the whole "can never compete on a financial level". Total removal is the only way to go, this includes any remaining assets within inventories that were purchased with PC Isk as well as any and all PC Isk that is present in any wallet whether corporate or individual. PC Alpha failed, remove the broken feature and all of the residual impact it has had before it causes other systems within the game to fail. Excise the cancer before it can spread further and kill us. No, choice of funds spent in PC matters, making economical choices has an impact, so does player suit costs and such. The issue was seeing money designed for PC meeting pub players with no such financial backing. As far as accumulated player money, either remove funds above a 100 million (ie if you had 150 mil, you can only keep the 100) and issue the remainder to a separate CEO account or leave it as it stands with the new isk rules in place. If a player saves, he can ascend 100 mil, I am quite a saver myself and my one go over that. The point is to differentiate between isk generating systems. Just try to take my billions space commy We wouldn't need to, CCP would. If that causes you to quit, oh well...... 1. It would never happen Space Commy goes against CCP's Golden Rule 2. I had half a bill before ever setting foot in PC. FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots. Please, continue to illustrate why you'll be even less missed than the cancer that is PC when you finally quit trolling and move onto the next game you want to kill.[/quote] Correct me if I am wrong, but I am getting a real high school drama vibe from you... You know, I am going mask my envy with jealousy. Anyways, how did I ruin/kill the game. I thought New Eden was about getting rich ISK = Power... NO? Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 217	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:07:00 - [36] - Quote DUST 514 - can be fun, but this game is totally broken! CCP you need to get the plasters out! People with so much isk they dont even have to EVER worry. Do you still wonder why noobs keep quitting? Remove the scanners , remove aim assist. Let people actually aim for themselves instead of this ridiculous bullet magnetiser aimbot.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4225	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:08:00 - [37] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: ISK = Power... NO? ISK is also a good way to get laid by a Caldari woman. They'll do anything for money....anything.
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 10437	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:09:00 - [38] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: FYI If you need cash you can always lick/polish my virtual boots. Do you have a preference to if I start with the right, or the left? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4417	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:16:00 - [39] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: They should hotfix removing it and all of the isk it has generated. What exactly is so bad about districts generating so much ISK? PC is expensive, I lose ISK every PC I play in (unless I'm ringing). People who play PC and can hold their districts deserve the money. That is why people have a problem with locking districts and that's why locking should not generate any money. Also, this thread was started by someone in Fatal Absolution, go figure!!! Winner of at least 11 King ThunderBolt hate videos :D
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1392	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:18:00 - [40] - Quote Actually, you're wrong. New Eden is all about being an antisocial capitalist sociopath filled with impotent rage until you can gather X(X+X) allies together so you can blob the cause of your impotent rage. X == the number of allies that the source of your impotent rage has. FYI, zerg rush would be the translation of blob that you would understand. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta

Appia Vibbia Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 849	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:19:00 - [41] - Quote mmm, 2 weeks of locked districts. an extra 12-24mill a district from this. Imma make so much ISK before CCP Shanghai comes back from their chinese new year break. Appia Vibbia for CPM1 [email protected]
commando biffle Shadow Company HQ 11	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:27:00 - [42] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. again? really?
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 194	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:30:00 - [43] - Quote Its been shut down for most Dust players anyway. who gives a rats ass? I am the real Darken
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8670	Posted - 2014.01.29 21:32:00 - [44] - Quote Well, you know. At least we got a dev response on an issue. I think that alone is worth a stunned silence and perhaps a round of applause. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
CELTIC TARON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 22	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:09:00 - [45] - Quote Guess the goal of AE came to light at least a dev posted :p maybe now CCP will do something about it although I won't hold my breath. Fix coming Soon TM (2014 comes and goes and still will be waiting lol) PC Tanker AND PROUD! Especially When I Shove A Missile Up Your Arse! Yes Militia need adjusted Long Live Tanks :)
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 2218	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:12:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. i do love how loads of corps are now getting free isk giving them a huge advantage in the long run and CCP is like meh holiday wwwhooo. PC should have been shut down months ago when it was clear it was not working at intended just start over. shift style conquest systems just dont work i have never seen a working example yet. you just have to live with the evil of 24/7 systems and work rewards around the small time you can hold onto a peace of land "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Criteria Shipment Blood Unit 13 Zero-Day 728	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:14:00 - [47] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: It's something we're aware of, and we're working on fixing it. Can't give a date as Chinese New Year means most of Shanghai is on holidays starting about now. Why is it that whenever I here a Dev speak of CCP Shanghai they are always on vacation. GRAMMAR ***** ATTAAAAAAAACK.... hear* Goodbye, world! (püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 62	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:21:00 - [48] - Quote My corp's district isn't locked. Whatchu talkin bout Willis?
ScottyTheMatchMaking AI Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 27	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:25:00 - [49] - Quote oh now that over 60% of PC is locked CCP now all the sudden blue tags a thread about PC. by the way ill be back to ruin matchmaking.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2775	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:47:00 - [50] - Quote Don't they have an economist who would confirm what the forum has pointed out about ISK farming? What's the point of paying an economist if you don't use him?

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 201	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:51:00 - [51] - Quote Skihids wrote: Don't they have an economist who would confirm what the forum has pointed out about ISK farming? What's the point of paying an economist if you don't use him? They might use him, you dont know if they do. If he was working as intended we would have an economy. they must be using him in different ways. sick I am the real Darken
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 2662	Posted - 2014.01.29 22:58:00 - [52] - Quote calisk galern wrote: everyone discussed shutting down districts when pc was established originally but the math worked out that it owuld not be profitable. then they reduced the cost of clone packs and made it more profitable, leading ot the situation we have now. it's not hard to make this not profitable. Actually I believe the current mechanics would make it more profitable if the clone packs were still 80 mil ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 653	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:19:00 - [53] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: ISK = Power... NO? ISK is also a good way to get laid by a Caldari woman. They'll do anything for money....anything. love them Caldari chicks!!! CEO Whiskey squad leader Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 203	Posted - 2014.01.29 23:25:00 - [54] - Quote CYRAX SERVIUS wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: ISK = Power... NO? ISK is also a good way to get laid by a Caldari woman. They'll do anything for money....anything. love them Caldari chicks!!! Money=survival. evolution says chicks dig survival. I am the real Darken
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 747	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:06:00 - [55] - Quote 234/245 districts are locked... Lol GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 12767	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:26:00 - [56] - Quote If you have any creative solutions (as in within current rule sets) the CPM still have an open ear. CPM knows this has been (and for a long while knew) a problem and are trying to work with CCP and the community on a favorable solution. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1400	Posted - 2014.01.30 00:47:00 - [57] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: They should hotfix removing it and all of the isk it has generated. What exactly is so bad about districts generating so much ISK? PC is expensive, I lose ISK every PC I play in (unless I'm ringing). People who play PC and can hold their districts deserve the money. That is why people have a problem with locking districts and that's why locking should not generate any money. Also, this thread was started by someone in Fatal Absolution, go figure!!! This isn't a welfare state, if you want that go find it somewhere other than New Eden. What makes you think you are entitled to free money that is printed from nothing? Guess what? You're not, no one is. So what your Alliance/Corporation owns a District. Oh, you say you are entitled to the free money just because you won the fight? It shouldn't work that way. Look at it this way, seizing the District is like seizing the ingredients to make cookies. Just because you have those ingredients doesn't mean you get to eat the cookies. You need to prep the dough, add the semi sweet morsels, mix them in evenly, mold the dough into little balls and then bake them into cookies; only then can you eat the cookies. Seizing the District should give you access to X amount of potential PvE income per day. If you don't kill the mobs, you don't get the income. Just because you "own" the District doesn't mean you can farm your mobs unmolested. No, you need to defend your District from any raiders that show up to kill your mobs and claim your income. If you can't defend your District adequately, they will rob you blind. If you expand beyond what you can reasonably defend/patrol, you'll end up footing the bill for others to profit. Oh, did I forget to mention that you don't just get access to "your District" for free, you need to pay CONCORD their property tax. The upside is that you can profit by opening your structures to the public and charging them for access. Do you have a Production facility? Well, you can turn a decent profit by allowing both eggers and mercs the opportunity to utilize your manufacturing slots. Each type of facility allows you a seperate service which you can offer to the public for a price as well as X amount of potential PvE income for you to defend/farm. There you have it, a working model for Active Income Generation rather than farming fights with blues or locking Districts or (worst of all) sitting there with your thumb up your ass while still getting paid. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 750	Posted - 2014.01.30 01:00:00 - [58] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: If you have any creative solutions (as in within current rule sets) the CPM still have an open ear. CPM knows this has been (and for a long while knew) a problem and are trying to work with CCP and the community on a favorable solution. Make clone pack attacks unprofitable if no shows. This stops district locking from being profitable. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| pâÅpéñpâápü»tºüpü«µëôµÆâpéÆF¦ápüúpüªpüäpéï \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Rusty Shallows 927	Posted - 2014.01.30 01:07:00 - [59] - Quote bamboo x wrote: My corp's district isn't locked. Whatchu talkin bout Willis? EVERYONE ATTACK! Is what I would be saying if this was a persistent universe. As for this current situation it's just another glitch in a broken game. Some of us are numb to the voices. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 90	Posted - 2014.01.30 01:36:00 - [60] - Quote Marad''er wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: If you have any creative solutions (as in within current rule sets) the CPM still have an open ear. CPM knows this has been (and for a long while knew) a problem and are trying to work with CCP and the community on a favorable solution. Make clone pack attacks unprofitable if no shows. This stops district locking from being profitable. But then they'll just send one or two guys like it's a shift, or have Mach training pcs and make sure the locking side loses won't they. Need a more creative fix.



Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 5 6 7 8 :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page