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KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3860	Posted - 2014.01.21 03:55:00 - [1] - Quote NEEDS A BUFF. NOw before everybody starts loosing their s**... Hear me out.* The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying. And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise. THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP... There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon! I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4498	Posted - 2014.01.21 03:58:00 - [2] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: NEEDS A BUFF. NOw before everybody starts loosing their s**... Hear me out.* The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying. And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise. THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP... There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon! I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. Scope. Give it a damn scope. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 1993	Posted - 2014.01.21 03:59:00 - [3] - Quote And yet I went 65\6 with it today... Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3861	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:01:00 - [4] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: And yet I went 65\6 with it today... You use an Amarr assault.Soon you wont have your Heat buildup bonus. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3738	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:04:00 - [5] - Quote CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. What Would Larry Do? He'd probably drink some Quafe... Goes To Refrigerator
Horizen Kenpachi Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 112	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:05:00 - [6] - Quote Agree with u both optional scope assault no charged yes its not got a place in new eden it feels like jack of all trades master of none and the prices of fitting is lol worty when captain op cr is fittingly awesome and a joke to use lv 4 cr eats heavys like shocolate scr is pants in comparison Hit me with your nerf bat.
BuTtHuRtPEepZ Raging Pack of Homosapiens 182	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:08:00 - [7] - Quote Heres what I think what should be done. Increase range. Reduce clip to 25.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8234	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:08:00 - [8] - Quote At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries Legacy Rising 663	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:09:00 - [9] - Quote My rail rifle looses to a scrambler mostly because I'm caldari. Its a weapon that does exceedingly well against shields. The rail rifle is good against armor, and since everyone wanted armor doctrine its better against most suits. However that is not to say the scrambler doesn't hold its own, its charge shot and head shot bonus gives it quite the edge. What you are preposing would make it op and fotm, I can already see !y scrambler rifle friend dropping everything before my rail rifle charges. No.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:11:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8234	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:13:00 - [11] - Quote BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote: Heres what I think what should be done. Increase range. Reduce clip to 25. Range is fine. Rail weapons (rail rifle) are supposed to have the highest range, and laser tech (scrambler rifle) should have the 2nd highest range; the scrambler rifle has the 2nd highest range of all the rifles. It does not need more, it already beats the AR and CR at range. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Ironyimation Inception Ancient Erectiles 57	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:14:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? Implying the you can't spam the viziam everywhere and get 4 kills by spraying.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2052	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:15:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, no. Buff the AR, then we can talk. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:16:00 - [14] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8234	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:16:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? I find it amusing how you spin being nerfed into unviability (flaylock pistol) as a positive. As for the mass driver, I can't say from experience if its viable in this build, but they're pretty much extinct. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:17:00 - [16] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, no. Buff the AR, then we can talk. The AR is still King of Spray and Pray. I still own Groups of people with my Toxin AR.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1410	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:17:00 - [17] - Quote Maybe the assault scrambler but the regular scrambler no..charge and hit your target Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 3060	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:18:00 - [18] - Quote You're joking right? Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:18:00 - [19] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? I find it amusing how you spin being nerfed into unviability (flaylock pistol) as a positive. As for the mass driver, I can't say from experience if its viable in this build, but they're pretty much extinct. Im not saying it was nerfed into oblivion that is GOOd. Im saying it was SO GOOD that it had to be nerfed into oblivion. Same with Mass drivers.... MD is extinct as Main weapon. As Sidearm works Great XD. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Lonewolf Heavy ROGUE SPADES 33	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:20:00 - [20] - Quote LEAVE MY DAMN SR ALONE DAMNIT! ITS FINE I literally wreck the hell out of people with my standard one, its called charge your shots. 1 well placed charged shot puts down almost anyone at standard, stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon. Im a damn commando and I get put down all the time by SR's I use all 4 Rifles and i think all of them are fine, how i beat each one RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges, CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in SR close in fast and dont pop out until close enough to get a kill shot AR keep distant Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;) Commando/Heavy Willing to PC for anyone for a low price

KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:20:00 - [21] - Quote Considering the Removal of the Amarr assault bonus and the Proposed BUFF i made, i think its fair. I'll leave it at this. You guys keep posting hate below. TY. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2052	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:22:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Yeah, no. Buff the AR, then we can talk. The AR is still King of Spray and Pray. I still own Groups of people with my Toxin AR.... That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles. It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Miokai Zahou The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 103	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:22:00 - [23] - Quote Remove all rifles and replace them with sticks and stones with the proper bonuses for 3 achieve race I say... they may break my bones... If all else fails, spec into rr, ar, cr and md proto rank 4 specialist... I did. Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:24:00 - [24] - Quote @ Lonewolf Heavy: .... stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon. /You wont believe this, but i actually have some gungame with the SCR.... RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges, /RR is VERY strong at CQ. Has Near perfect hipfire too. CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in /You will fall back? in the scenario there is where to fall back and IF those 1200RPM in your butt dont kill you fast enough. If not , your done. AR keep distant /And if there is no distance to be made? Like say, A in the LAbs? [/quote] GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Greasepalms Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 424	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:24:00 - [25] - Quote it's fine lol. just give me a proper scope. I.E: Codex camera sights
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:25:00 - [26] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles. It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon. When i use the AR i dont get beaten Close range by RR or SCR. CR do beat me most of the times thou. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Squagga The State Protectorate 31	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:25:00 - [27] - Quote I proto'd into scrambler rifles and there have been plenty of times when I've offed myself due to overheating. I would agree that a longer build up would be good for this weapon. I also think that 50% is too much. 25%-30% would be agreeable. I also don't agree with the scope idea .. it has a reflex sight .. but then again that's my favorite sight .. so maybe I'm just biased Reloading, the silent killer.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3863	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 - [28] - Quote Squagga wrote: I proto'd into scrambler rifles and there have been plenty of times when I've offed myself due to overheating. I would agree that a longer build up would be good for this weapon. I also think that 50% is too much. 25%-30% would be agreeable. I also don't agree with the scope idea .. it has a reflex sight .. but then again that's my favorite sight .. so maybe I'm just biased Its 50% heat build reduction TO CHARGED SHOTS ONLY! Does anybody actually reads what i write anymore? or just get in to say ''no'' and leave? XD GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2052	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 - [29] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles. It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon. When i use the AR i dont get beaten Close range by RR or SCR. CR do beat me most of the times thou. At least the CR is meant to have some close range ability. But damn is it annoying when my duvolle loses to a std RR or ScR. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8234	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. Highest base damage Charge shot to one-hit-kill most suits. 2nd highest range PG/CPU is manageable, especially if you have maxed out core skills. Sight is not ideal, I would like a camera-sight for viewing at higher ranges, like I already said. The Amarr assault bonus bonus removal is a problem in my opinion, like I already said. This has not happened yet, so cannot be used as justification to say the SCR is underpowered. If CCP goes through with changing the assault bonus, then a 15% reduction of heat buildup (equivalent of Amarr assault lv 3) is the only buff it would need in my opinion. I currently have Amarr assault level 3 only, and I find the SCR to be a viable and useful weapon. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

aqua network STAGNANT WATER INC. 20	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:29:00 - [31] - Quote laser rife also need a buff and CB,RR,& AR need to over heat or something.
Squagga The State Protectorate 31	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:32:00 - [32] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Squagga wrote: I proto'd into scrambler rifles and there have been plenty of times when I've offed myself due to overheating. I would agree that a longer build up would be good for this weapon. I also think that 50% is too much. 25%-30% would be agreeable. I also don't agree with the scope idea .. it has a reflex sight .. but then again that's my favorite sight .. so maybe I'm just biased Its 50% heat build reduction TO CHARGED SHOTS ONLY! Does anybody actually reads what i write anymore? or just get in to say ''no'' and leave? XD Do you actually read what other people are saying? Or just assume that everyone is against you? Maybe there's a reason why Reloading, the silent killer.
Squagga The State Protectorate 31	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:35:00 - [33] - Quote Also you posted this in the wrong section. It seems you don't know. There's a section called Feedback/Requests. It's a completely different section than General Discussion. This is where you voice your concerns about these kinds of things Reloading, the silent killer.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 106	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:39:00 - [34] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: NEEDS A BUFF. NOw before everybody starts loosing their s**... Hear me out.* The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying. And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise. THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP... There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon! I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. OR a PROPER SCOPE The problem isn't the scrambler rifle, its the rifle dps for all rifles. Your reasoning for the combat rifle is clever but has a fatal flaw, which is that the rof accounts for the 3 shot burst. Lets look at some rifle dps: scrambler rifle is 705 rpm 79.5 damage per bullet. combat rifle is 1200 rpm divided by 3=400 rpm of 96 damage shot dpm ScrR=705x79.5=56047.5 dpm CR=400x96=38400 dps ScrR= 56047.5/60=934.125 dps CR=38400/60=640 in addition to the scrambler rifle nearly tripling the dps of the SMG (non assault variant comes out to around 350 isn for STD) it is also capable of a charged shot capability which takes out any shield value in the game with one shot, and more. if anything, the heat buildup should be increased. Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3868	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:39:00 - [35] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: .... and I find the SCR to be a viable and useful weapon. Yet you dont main it. LET me guess why..... Ah yes.Because the OTHER rifles are better.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3868	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:40:00 - [36] - Quote Squagga wrote: Also you posted this in the wrong section. It seems you don't know. There's a section called Feedback/Requests. It's a completely different section than General Discussion. This is where you voice your concerns about these kinds of things This is not posted on the wrong section.DISCUSSION. I posted it here to get the community's attention and opinion. (And it seems i might be wrong) Not to ask something from CCP .... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
echo47 Minmatar Republic 172	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:42:00 - [37] - Quote Here is what I think needs to be done with the Scrambler Rifle.......... nothing. In case a lot of you didn't notice all the rifles have pros and cons. Theses pros and cons cause one rifle to be better than others in certain situation and believe or not even certain maps. This is how it should be. If you play as an assault and actually assault you would benefit yourself to be proficient in all the rifles. That way when situations change on the battlefield you can adapt and use the best rifle for the job. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3868	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:43:00 - [38] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The problem isn't the scrambler rifle, its the rifle dps for all rifles. Your reasoning for the combat rifle is clever but has a fatal flaw, which is that the rof accounts for the 3 shot burst. Lets look at some rifle dps: scrambler rifle is 705 rpm 79.5 damage per bullet. combat rifle is 1200 rpm divided by 3=400 rpm of 96 damage shot dpm ScrR=705x79.5=56047.5 dpm CR=400x96=38400 dps ScrR= 56047.5/60=934.125 dps CR=38400/60=640 in addition to the scrambler rifle nearly tripling the dps of the SMG (non assault variant comes out to around 350 isn for STD) it is also capable of a charged shot capability which takes out any shield value in the game with one shot, and more. if anything, the heat buildup should be increased. Your math is pretty. +1 But the fact is=a SINGLE press of the R1 button on my controller results in more damage for my Standard Combat rifle than my Prototype SCR. Plus the CR is a LOT easier to fit. And have a more useful sight. The only true advantage is, how you mentioned the CHARGED SHOT, which WITHOUT the amarr assault bonus is not exactly the best of features since the threat of overheating mid gunfight is not very appealing. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 106	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:45:00 - [39] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Considering the Removal of the Amarr assault bonus and the Proposed BUFF i made, i think its fair. I'll leave it at this. You guys keep posting hate below. TY. Your lobbying will only unbalance the game in favor of modded controllers on amarr assaults, which would take out 100% of the variety in the game. Currently, Assault a k.0 with a viziam scrambler rifle and 3x damage mods is the top tier FOTM, and arguing that this gun, which is currently the strongest in the game, especially with aim assist, needs to be buffed is silly, and i respectfully disagree with what you are trying to do. The guns that do need a buff are the laser rifle, nova knives, plasma cannon, and also possibly the shotgun (more for hit detection and possibly range than anything else though for that one) Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8235	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:46:00 - [40] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: .... and I find the SCR to be a viable and useful weapon. Yet you dont main it. LET me guess why..... Ah yes.Because the OTHER rifles are better.... I DO main it. I have proficiency level 5 for it, It is the weapon I use the most, and the ONLY weapon I have above standard tier. Please don't make assumptions about me like that. The CR does more damage per burst than a SCR does per shot, but the SCR has higher range and charge shot ability to make up for that. In my experience, the AR can definitely get wrecked by a SCR user even in its own range. The RR right now is kind of OP in my opinion, so I don't think the fact that its better than the SCR is saying much considering its better than everything else as well. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 617	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:46:00 - [41] - Quote I think it's fine. It's probably the most balanced Rifle in the game, at the moment. I feel sympathy for the Amarrian Scum losing their heart reduction bonus, though. That's the only good thing thing those pieces of trash had in those filthy clothes they call suits. Really.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3870	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:48:00 - [42] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I DO main it. I have proficiency level 5 for it, It is the weapon I use the most, and the ONLY weapon I have above standard tier. Please don't make assumptions about me like that. The CR does more damage per burst than a SCR does per shot, but the SCR has higher range and charge shot ability to make up for that. In my experience, the AR can definitely get wrecked by a SCR user even in its own range. The RR right now is kind of OP in my opinion, so I don't think the fact that its better than the SCR is saying much considering its better than everything else as well. Hmm.I could swear you main'd something else, since last time i saw you in battle i think you were either using a CR or a RR. FOR THE WHOLE MATCH. But well. yeah its my bad assuming stuff.... ''The CR does more damage per burst than a SCR does per shot, but the SCR has higher range and charge shot ability to make up for that.'' The CR has Better fitting requirements and a 90% vs shields 110% vs armor to make up for those, not to mention a sight that works in its optimal range. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3870	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:50:00 - [43] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Considering the Removal of the Amarr assault bonus and the Proposed BUFF i made, i think its fair. I'll leave it at this. You guys keep posting hate below. TY. Your lobbying will only unbalance the game in favor of modded controllers on amarr assaults, which would take out 100% of the variety in the game. Currently, Assault a k.0 with a viziam scrambler rifle and 3x damage mods is the top tier FOTM, and arguing that this gun, which is currently the strongest in the game, especially with aim assist, needs to be buffed is silly, and i respectfully disagree with what you are trying to do. The guns that do need a buff are the laser rifle, nova knives, plasma cannon, and also possibly the shotgun (more for hit detection and possibly range than anything else though for that one) Well of course. this is in the matter of Rifle VS rifle. In the matter of Rifle vs anything else , all Rifles are overpowering. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 107	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:51:00 - [44] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The problem isn't the scrambler rifle, its the rifle dps for all rifles. Your reasoning for the combat rifle is clever but has a fatal flaw, which is that the rof accounts for the 3 shot burst. Lets look at some rifle dps: scrambler rifle is 705 rpm 79.5 damage per bullet. combat rifle is 1200 rpm divided by 3=400 rpm of 96 damage shot dpm ScrR=705x79.5=56047.5 dpm CR=400x96=38400 dps ScrR= 56047.5/60=934.125 dps CR=38400/60=640 in addition to the scrambler rifle nearly tripling the dps of the SMG (non assault variant comes out to around 350 isn for STD) it is also capable of a charged shot capability which takes out any shield value in the game with one shot, and more. if anything, the heat buildup should be increased. Your math is pretty. +1 But the fact is=a SINGLE press of the R1 button on my controller results in more damage for my Standard Combat rifle than my Prototype SCR. Plus the CR is a LOT easier to fit. And have a more useful sight. The only true advantage is, how you mentioned the CHARGED SHOT, which WITHOUT the amarr assault bonus is not exactly the best of features since the threat of overheating mid gunfight is not very appealing. I personally think that the scrambler rifle needs an overheat at 10-12 shots, but it would keep its current damage, but have the op skill increase it up to 15 shots, BUT all other rifles get a huge nerf to dps and hip fire accuracy on the non assault variants (thinking 15-20%), as well as a range nerf of 5-10% for all rifles as well. but thats just me, trying to keep TTK reasonable and allowing specialty weapons to do their jobs better than rifles Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 126	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:56:00 - [45] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. The ONLY rifle to have a weakness of 80% effectiveness vs something Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. Not trying to sound like a smartass but... What exactly do you guys expect from these guns? Do you want them to be the right hand of god? I use the scrambler and can say that it is the most balanced gun in this game. You just have to learn how to use the gun to your strengths. If the laser rifle can kick ass against the RR and CR then the SCR will do just fine. Pick your targets carefully you really don't have to kill every single person you see best to leave some targeys for others who are better suited for the job. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
JL3Eleven 1585	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:59:00 - [46] - Quote lol at op. Supercorp: A corporation with the ability to shape and control events and project power on a New Eden-wide scale.
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 813	Posted - 2014.01.21 04:59:00 - [47] - Quote It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8238	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:00:00 - [48] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I DO main it. I have proficiency level 5 for it, It is the weapon I use the most, and the ONLY weapon I have above standard tier. Please don't make assumptions about me like that. The CR does more damage per burst than a SCR does per shot, but the SCR has higher range and charge shot ability to make up for that. In my experience, the AR can definitely get wrecked by a SCR user even in its own range. The RR right now is kind of OP in my opinion, so I don't think the fact that its better than the SCR is saying much considering its better than everything else as well. Hmm.I could swear you main'd something else, since last time i saw you in battle you were either using a CR or a RR. FOR THE WHOLE MATCH. But well. yeah its my bad assuming stuff.... ''The CR does more damage per burst than a SCR does per shot, but the SCR has higher range and charge shot ability to make up for that.'' The CR has Better fitting requirements and a 90% vs shields 110% vs armor to make up for those, not to mention a sight that works in its optimal range. I used the RR today for 2 matches, I have level 1 in the other rifles to try them (except the AR since I have an exile), but the vast majority of the weapons I use are overwhelmingly SCRs. Ask Cat Merc, Mobius Wyvern, Arkena Wyrnspire, Golthan (not sure that's how you spell his name), or Whinis if you want to check. I can't overstate how awesome the charge shot is, especially if the enemy doesn't see you, if you have cover, or know where the person is coming from (active scanner FTW). I don't think this has been said, but I rarely ever have to worry about running out of ammo with the SCR, its very ammo efficient. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Leezir Bragian Order Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:01:00 - [49] - Quote The Scrambler Rifle is perfect just the way it is
Lonewolf Heavy ROGUE SPADES 33	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:01:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: @ Lonewolf Heavy: .... stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon. /You wont believe this, but i actually have some gungame with the SCR.... RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges, /RR is VERY strong at CQ. Has Near perfect hipfire too. CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in /You will fall back? in the scenario there is where to fall back and IF those 1200RPM in your butt dont kill you fast enough. If not , your done. AR keep distant /And if there is no distance to be made? Like say, A in the LAbs? [/quote] Im a commando, I have the armor to absorb damage from any gun, including thale rounds so those are viable options. Also not from what ive seen with RRs, every time i close in on them they begin to do worse and my AR or SR wrecks the hell out of them (i only use standard stuff) The only times i lose to RRs are at distance CRs i dont just turn and run, i back up and shoot still. AR if there is no distance i stand my ground obviously. Thing is though, you have to pick your fights, you cant win every one. Blueberries are delicious and an essential part of my diet ;) Commando/Heavy Willing to PC for anyone for a low price

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 107	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:02:00 - [51] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). In my opinion, the SMG only needs a 5% damage nerf, as it has such close range, meaning it should retain its effectiveness in cqc, by making it have high DPS, but super low range. However, a nerf is still needed Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 127	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:09:00 - [52] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). Laser Rifle isn't garbage, just have to know where the good spots are on the maps. Long live the laser. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 814	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:11:00 - [53] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Vell0cet wrote: It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). In my opinion, the SMG only needs a 5% damage nerf, as it has such close range, meaning it should retain its effectiveness in cqc, by making it have high DPS, but super low range. However, a nerf is still needed I think the SMG should have a TTK in line with the other sidearms like the flaylock, ScP, and the ones for 1.8. I've been gunned down with the SMG and killed before the hit markers appear on the screen. That's just too fast for a sidearm IMO, and they're ridiculously easy to use. They should of course be viable, but people are using them as primary weapons instead of finishers, which is usually an indication there is a balance problem. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 814	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:15:00 - [54] - Quote Echoist wrote: Vell0cet wrote: It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). Laser Rifle isn't garbage, just have to know where the good spots are on the maps. Long live the laser. In any situation you would want to use a LR, you would be better off with a RR. It is simply better in every way. The LR is a lot of fun, but it has some severe drawbacks that used to be offset by its significant range advantage. It is now a niche weapon without a niche. You can get kills with it, but you'd be much better off with a RR. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5794	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:19:00 - [55] - Quote Yeah... No... Pre 1.7 the only reason I had to use an AR was because it's Gallente. SCR > AR After 1.7 it's still kicking ass, just that it was outdone by the new rifles which are OP themselves. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 127	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:21:00 - [56] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Echoist wrote: Vell0cet wrote: It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen. I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it). Laser Rifle isn't garbage, just have to know where the good spots are on the maps. Long live the laser. In any situation you would want to use a LR, you would be better off with a RR. It is simply better in every way. The LR is a lot of fun, but it has some severe drawbacks that used to be offset by its significant range advantage. It is now a niche weapon without a niche. You can get kills with it, but you'd be much better off with a RR. Maybe but its a good thing that the majority of players who use the rail rifle can't aim worth a **** if their target isn't In arms length. Would still take a laser rifle over a rail rifle any day. Mostly cause I'm just crappy at CQC engagements lol. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3872	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:25:00 - [57] - Quote Well then. Seems i was wrong then. BTW @ KageWolf: ''I don't think this has been said, but I rarely ever have to worry about running out of ammo with the SCR, its very ammo efficient.'' This is VERY true,main reason the SCR + A.Scanner is one of the best Assault combinations. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 94	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:33:00 - [58] - Quote King , sometimes I agree with you but other times like this I wonder if we play the same game mate lol. Scrambler rifles are very powerful. They have that charge shot lets not forget! On top of that they are like the TAC AR of old (All be it with a little less range) but in their favour apart from having the charge shot mechanic, even on a totally non bonused suit you can spray many rounds off in cqc, you can also shoot well at range and they have a really decent size clip. Couple the scram rifle with an amarr assault suit and they are very very powerful. The TAC AR got nerfed into the ground, you see more laser rifles and even god damn burst AR`s then you do TAC AR`s. The scram rifle needs no changes. Certainly not any buffs!
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5985	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:34:00 - [59] - Quote ScR is fine IMO right now. I have no issue with it "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Dunce Masterson Savage Bullet 14	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:34:00 - [60] - Quote no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage

Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 127	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:36:00 - [61] - Quote Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage Yeah let me fire my laser rifle for as long as i want lol, jesus i really do hope you were kidding. Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 5796	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:37:00 - [62] - Quote Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage **** no, the moment you remove the heat SCR becomes THE BEST weapon hands down. No competition what so ever. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3873	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:37:00 - [63] - Quote Echoist wrote: Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage Yeah let me fire my laser rifle for as long as i want lol, jesus i really do hope you were kidding. I could live with that ,but for balance sake the clip should be reduced to 14-16 and would need a slight RoF nerf too. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5992	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:39:00 - [64] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage **** no, the moment you remove the heat SCR becomes THE BEST weapon hands down. No competition what so ever. I actually like the heat mechanic. Without it the weapon would need serious rebalancing. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves 129	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:40:00 - [65] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Echoist wrote: Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage Yeah let me fire my laser rifle for as long as i want lol, jesus i really do hope you were kidding. I could live with that ,but for balance sake the clip should be reduced to 14-16 and would need a slight RoF nerf too. Hey while we're at it lets just take off the trigger, nobody uses that anyways... Noobasaures: "Rawr" Laser Rifle Specialist, Rail Rifles... Lol fail CCP Remnant, savior of the laser rifle!!!
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3876	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:41:00 - [66] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage ** no, the moment you remove the heat SCR becomes THE BEST weapon hands down. No competition what so ever. I actually like the heat mechanic. Without it the weapon would need serious rebalancing. This , but without the part o LIKING the heat mechanic :3 GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
Dunce Masterson Savage Bullet 15	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:42:00 - [67] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Echoist wrote: Dunce Masterson wrote: no other weapons have heat build up so why should amarr weapons? its time to just do away with it and the feedback damage Yeah let me fire my laser rifle for as long as i want lol, jesus i really do hope you were kidding. I could live with that ,but for balance sake the clip should be reduced to 14-16 and would need a slight RoF nerf too. 20-30 rounds in a mag with the same total ammo count.
fawkuima juggalo Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 851	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:53:00 - [68] - Quote cmo you have to be trolling i killed f***ed by scr more then anything i think. ---OFFICIAL LOGISTICS REGISTRY BOARD/ H.O.F.----
Dimitri Rascolovitch The Immortal Knights 117	Posted - 2014.01.21 05:59:00 - [69] - Quote as annoying as this sounds, can i get someone to link me to the page that is mentioning the assault bonus changes? ...Yeah, i use a heavy machine gun, and I think i do a Damn good job at it. i eat babies forum warrior Lv0
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 8241	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:01:00 - [70] - Quote Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: as annoying as this sounds, can i get someone to link me to the page that is mentioning the assault bonus changes? Here Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1471	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:15:00 - [71] - Quote The CR and RR need a fairly strong nerf. The Scrambler Rifle needs on too, but a slightly smaller one. Add a small delay between the burst of the CR. 0.05 of a second seems good to me, that still allows it to have a DPS of 480/504/528. This is above the DPS of the two fully automatic rifles(which it should be, because it its fully automatic and does require a bit more skill). Another problem with the CR is its rediculously low fitting price. I understand that a key feature of Minmatar weapons is their comparatively low fitting price, but the CR takes it to a bit of an extreme. It should to a certain level mirror the fitting costs of the Scrambler Rifle, so an increase in CPU costs is what I am proposing. Perhaps an extra 33% CPU across the board. The Rail Rifle needs a serious look at its hipfire dispersion. For a weapon that performs so well at long range, it shouldn't be as good as it is a close quarters combat. My suggestion is to get rid of its slow ADS aiming speed, and increase its hipfire dispersion by a wide margin. This will push its minimum effective range out further, allow it to retain its 65-85m range dominance, and allow it it be semi-usefull at 40-65m, but not as good as the BR or CR. The ScR is a tough one to tackle for two reasons. 1.) Its semiautomatic. This factor alone makes it harder to balance. More variables. 2.) I like it. I will try to look at it with a unbiased eye, but take everything I say with a grain of salt. With that out of the way, here is my suggestion. Lower its RoF from 705 RpM to 600 RpM. Thats it. This accomplishes two things. It makes the use of modded controllers quite useless with it, and lowers its effective DPS to more reasonable levels... 720/756/792. This is a bit more inline with what a semiautomatic rifle should be. If it wasn't for the draconic overheating function and purposefully frontloaded DPS, I would say that that is too much. So? What do you think? Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1067	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:31:00 - [72] - Quote Lonewolf Heavy wrote: LEAVE MY DAMN SR ALONE DAMNIT! ITS FINE I literally wreck the hell out of people with my standard one, its called charge your shots. 1 well placed charged shot puts down almost anyone at standard, stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon. Im a damn commando and I get put down all the time by SR's I use all 4 Rifles and i think all of them are fine, how i beat each one RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges, CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in SR close in fast and dont pop out until close enough to get a kill shot AR keep distant Your ScR evaluation is incorrect. So many ways to use it and you leave that recommendation? There is so much more you can say besides that. With a ScR, it is all about positioning, effective flanking, shot placement and heat management, not just "wait for them to close in on you and hope for the best". If you can bait ONE enemy and you have cover nearby OR high ground, then that is an advantageous position. However....if you try to bait MORE than one or two enemies under similar circumstances, you will die. A good ScR user will utilize his surroundings to his advantage and rely solely on good FPS mechanics to make him formidable. You said "close in fast" but great ScR users will arrange enemies into their gun's optimal range. I have an advantage over any gun in 40-50 meters. I know that and I use it effectively. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1068	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:42:00 - [73] - Quote aqua network wrote: laser rife also need a buff and CB,RR,& AR need to over heat or something. Absolutely not. I exclusively use the ScR and I actually like the fact that it is the only AR that does this. Most of us can manage it quite well anyway, so keep the overheat ONLY on Amarr weaponry. Sheesh. Not that big of a deal really UNLESS the racial bonus is removed. Then...we have a problem. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3742	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:44:00 - [74] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: aqua network wrote: laser rife also need a buff and CB,RR,& AR need to over heat or something. Absolutely not. I exclusively use the ScR and I actually like the fact that it is the only AR that does this. Most of us can manage it quite well anyway, so keep the overheat ONLY on Amarr weaponry. Sheesh. Not that big of a deal really UNLESS the racial bonus is removed. Then...we have a problem. Even better idea. Give Amarr Assaults their new bonus, but make the heat sink reduction completely passive, similar to how all Minmatar medium frames have a passive 1HP/s regen rate on armor. Done. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 97	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:47:00 - [75] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: aqua network wrote: laser rife also need a buff and CB,RR,& AR need to over heat or something. Absolutely not. I exclusively use the ScR and I actually like the fact that it is the only AR that does this. Most of us can manage it quite well anyway, so keep the overheat ONLY on Amarr weaponry. Sheesh. Not that big of a deal really UNLESS the racial bonus is removed. Then...we have a problem. Gotta admit, being able to cycle / precharge the laser rifle up for half of the entire clip before you start actually hitting someone would be nice - not having to worry about heat. Yea thought the LR needs something different to that. CCP did say they are hot fixing and giving the laser some love so I am looking forwards to that.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1068	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:47:00 - [76] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I think it's fine. It's probably the most balanced Rifle in the game, at the moment. I feel sympathy for the Amarrian Scum losing their heart reduction bonus, though. That's the only good thing thing those pieces of trash had in those filthy clothes they call suits. Really. Filthy, you say? Hmm...look at each merc quarters and tell me honestly which one looks "cleanest". Look at each dropsuit and tell me which one Leonardo Da Vinci would rather paint. Which Eve ships look the sexiest? Hint? Amarr. Amarr are pure elegance. Sheesh! You Gallente scum have 4 eyes and you can't even SEE that? Smdh. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2258	Posted - 2014.01.21 06:52:00 - [77] - Quote I like to eat a d!ck. There was not enough humour in this thread for my liking so there you go, carry on. Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8164	Posted - 2014.01.21 07:02:00 - [78] - Quote Christ no. Having used the weapon since day one on non-Amarr suits it's already very powerful. The Amarr bonus is insanely good for the weapon, but that doesn't mean it's bad on its own. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
King of Ghosts Nos Nothi 63	Posted - 2014.01.21 07:26:00 - [79] - Quote I just think that the ScR is waaaay too powerful in CQC. Just make it's hipfire accuracy terrible. This will prevent the Charge+Spam that makes the ScR a shotgun in CQC. I'm fine with it's power at range right now, but it's just too good of an all around weapon. The hipfire spam is absolutly broken on the ScR. I've seen people just chase you around corner's, spamming the trigger almost indefinitely. I can't wait for you guys to lose the build-up reduction. Learn how to aim if you are gonna use it. You do more than enough damage with prof and mods (Around 100dmg a shot). Just stick back at range and murder people. I'm a big fan of keeping the range profiles strong. RR should be a Long range weapon. Hard to use at mid range. Almost useless at short range. ScR should be a Mid-Long range weapon. Easy to use at mid range, yet lacking damage at long. Hard to use at close range. CR should be a Close-Mid range weapon. Easy to use a close range, yet lacking damage at mid range. Useless past 60m. AR should be a Close-Mid range weapon. Amazing at close range, yet lacking damage at mid range. Useless past 40m. In short: The area's of dominance. 0-40 AR : Should destroy anyone at this range. This should be the hands down CQC choice. 40-60 CR : Versatile, yet lacks stopping power at the edge of it's range. A good all around weapon. 60-80 ScR : Versatile, yet is difficult to use a very close ranges. Lacks power at the edge of it's range. 80-100 RR : Should be able to out DPS anyone at this range (other guns don't do enough damage). Usless at short range. Just my 0.02 ISk on the matter. I am most definitely, maybe, probably, possibly, PERHAPS, Ghost Kaisar. Nos Nothi Moderator: Call me if you need me.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 234	Posted - 2014.01.21 08:33:00 - [80] - Quote Al guns need a nerf TTK is to short as it is. War never changes

Kal Kronos L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 164	Posted - 2014.01.21 08:51:00 - [81] - Quote Until it doesn't insta kill damn near everything at close range no buffs to any aspect of the gun, give the thing a damn ROF and we can start talking about changes to other aspects. I do 126 damage a bullet and the thing fires as fast as I spam R1, why would I ever need a buff? What's not to love about the scrambler rifle, the thing is a precision weapon and at the same time a shotgun.
Zerus Ni'Kator Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:25:00 - [82] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. The ONLY rifle to have a weakness of 80% effectiveness vs something Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. The SCR is also the only weapon with an 120% bonus v shields ... It is the only weapon with a charge shot feature It has the highest damage per bullet of any of the rifles It has a huge clip and very rarely even needs to be reloaded Sorry but there is nothing wrong with the SCR, you just got used to it being OP in 1.6 .. it's the same with AR's .. I have no issue with using either of the weapons at their optimum ranges The SCR is awesome v shield tanked suits but due to shield v armor balance not many people just shield tank .. if this balance was addressed then the SCR would have more people it would be strong against
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1476	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:43:00 - [83] - Quote Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. The ONLY rifle to have a weakness of 80% effectiveness vs something Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. 1.)The SCR is also the only weapon with an 120% bonus v shields ... 2.)It is the only weapon with a charge shot feature 3.)It has the highest damage per bullet of any of the rifles 4.)It has a huge clip and very rarely even needs to be reloaded Sorry but there is nothing wrong with the SCR, you just got used to it being OP in 1.6 .. it's the same with AR's .. I have no issue with using either of the weapons at their optimum ranges The SCR is awesome v shield tanked suits but due to shield v armor balance not many people just shield tank .. if this balance was addressed then the SCR would have more people it would be strong against 1.) This is a double edged sword really. It makes the weapon a bit more situational. 2.) The Ion Pistol will get this feature as well. 3.) Per bullet, yes. However, the Combat Rifle does more damage per burst, and each burst can be considered a single bullet. 4.) Its huge clip is pointless. The overheat function is its real clip size. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Korvin Lomont 487	Posted - 2014.01.21 12:58:00 - [84] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Zerus Ni'Kator wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic. Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption. Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus. A sight that does not work in its optimal range. The ONLY rifle to have a weakness of 80% effectiveness vs something Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements. I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : / BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY. 1.)The SCR is also the only weapon with an 120% bonus v shields ... 2.)It is the only weapon with a charge shot feature 3.)It has the highest damage per bullet of any of the rifles 4.)It has a huge clip and very rarely even needs to be reloaded Sorry but there is nothing wrong with the SCR, you just got used to it being OP in 1.6 .. it's the same with AR's .. I have no issue with using either of the weapons at their optimum ranges The SCR is awesome v shield tanked suits but due to shield v armor balance not many people just shield tank .. if this balance was addressed then the SCR would have more people it would be strong against 1.) This is a double edged sword really. It makes the weapon a bit more situational. 2.) The Ion Pistol will get this feature as well. 3.) Per bullet, yes. However, the Combat Rifle does more damage per burst, and each burst can be considered a single bullet. 4.) Its huge clip is pointless. The overheat function is its real clip size. Hmm compared to CR the SCR still has higher DPS (~30%) on paper (if you can push the button fast enough), the clipsize is quite comparable to the CR. Thanks to the 3 shot burst there are 18 burst possible with the CR before you have to releoad and ist possible to get 18 shots out of the CR before it overheats (even without teh Amarr Assault bonus). So in general th CR has more damage per burst (~30%) wheras the SCR can apply the damage faster over a longer Range. I would say both a fairly well balanced again each other (maybe with a small advantage for the CR) BTW the poor TAC AR gets owned by both weapons...by a good margin.
Drapedup Drippedout 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 195	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:05:00 - [85] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? 1. ScR is the most OP weapon in the current build. Get gud you scrub. 2. Have you ever played min assault? then you'd know what's wrong with it.. Link where the new bonuses are confirmed plz. 3. Combat rifle? 3rd on OP list. SCR > RR > CR. Just because you don't have prof in a weapon, doesn't mean its not OP. 4. mass driver and FP nerf? has anything to do with??? 5. WTF ARE YOU QQing ABOUT?
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1476	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:20:00 - [86] - Quote Drapedup Drippedout wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifle Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? 1. ScR is the most OP weapon in the current build. Get gud you scrub. 2. Have you ever played min assault? then you'd know what's wrong with it.. Link where the new bonuses are confirmed plz. 3. Combat rifle? 3rd on OP list. SCR > RR > CR. Just because you don't have prof in a weapon, doesn't mean its not OP. 4. mass driver and FP nerf? has anything to do with??? 5. WTF ARE YOU QQing ABOUT? Change that list from ScR>RR>CR to CR>ScR>RR and you're good. The CR compares to the performance of the Scrambler, but is 2x easier to fit. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
xxwhitedevilxx M Expert Intervention Caldari State 1487	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:28:00 - [87] - Quote The only "Issue" I have is the scope, compared to RR. But, yeah, I do agree that RR is still a bit better at any range Tank 514.
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 936	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:40:00 - [88] - Quote "The AR still owns the ScR..." You know what? THE HELL UP. I took you serious until you said that. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Aisha Ctarl Pradox One Proficiency V. 2962	Posted - 2014.01.21 13:50:00 - [89] - Quote Super mega awesome Scrambler Rifle user entering the fray here. Scramblers are fine - utilize the charged shot feature, with complex damage mods you can one shot even some advanced suits. If you're spamming away with the SCR then you're gonna have a bad time. Rules of thumb for SCRs... 1) charge shot then fire 2) if OHK, laugh maniacally at the fool 3) if still alive, spam follow up shots 4) laugh maniacally Aisha Ctarl for CPM1
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2050	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:01:00 - [90] - Quote There's this thing called "power creep" where basically instead of properly balancing a game, the designers instead just decide to introduce weapons that are better than the ones we already have...cause if they're not better then what's the point in using them? Having all new dropsuits for 1.8 is going to drastically change the whole game. However, CCP is playing smart by also adjusting the skills on all the dropsuits so that every dropsuit feels new. Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!

Asha Starwind VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage 212	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:13:00 - [91] - Quote Wait? The Scrambler Rifle that has charged shot that can strip shields off of anything that isn't a Shield tanked sent, and x4.5 headshot multiplier. A Weapon that can 2HKO a good number of fits effortlessly needs a buff?
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 814	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:19:00 - [92] - Quote I forgot to mention this, but there is one buff the ScR could really use. The pitch of the shots should get higher as it gets closer to overheat, so you have an audio cue as well as the visual one (which is hard to keep an eye on in the bottom corner as you're trying to track a moving target). This buff would also aid the smart opponent since they would know when you're close to overheating, and could time their attack accordingly. I just think this would add depth/fun to the game. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1477	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:21:00 - [93] - Quote Asha Starwind wrote: Wait? The Scrambler Rifle that has charged shot that can strip shields off of anything that isn't a Shield tanked sent, and x4.5 headshot multiplier. A Weapon that can 2HKO a good number of fits effortlessly needs a buff? It doesn't have a 4.5x headshot multiplier. It has the same 190% multiplier that all the other rifles have. Where did you hear that? Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Scar Scrilla Cobra Kommando 39	Posted - 2014.01.21 14:22:00 - [94] - Quote Lonewolf Heavy wrote: LEAVE MY DAMN SR ALONE DAMNIT! ITS FINE I literally wreck the hell out of people with my standard one, its called charge your shots. 1 well placed charged shot puts down almost anyone at standard, stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon. Im a damn commando and I get put down all the time by SR's I use all 4 Rifles and i think all of them are fine, how i beat each one RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges, CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in SR close in fast and dont pop out until close enough to get a kill shot AR keep distant I run Commando with SR and RR, the best of both worlds (anti shields, anti armor). A scope and range buff for the SR would still be appreciated though "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" Scar Scrilla - Proud Commando User & Cobra Kommander
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 60	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:54:00 - [95] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: I forgot to mention this, but there is one buff the ScR could really use. The pitch of the shots should get higher as it gets closer to overheat, so you have an audio cue as well as the visual one (which is hard to keep an eye on in the bottom corner as you're trying to track a moving target). This buff would also aid the smart opponent since they would know when you're close to overheating, and could time their attack accordingly. I just think this would add depth/fun to the game. Thats a beautiful idea, but I'm not sure how much higher the pitch can go. Only my dog would be able to warn me about overheating. Maybe start with some more masculine pew-pews.
Seigfried Warheit 126	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:43:00 - [96] - Quote I think the Scram Rifle is fine ( I use Caldari Assault) ..I still love it although I think it can use a slight nerf...heat build-up when charging a shot..kinda unfair that I can just hold the shot and walk around without no drawbacks...I love doing that but it really makes no sense to have no heat build up while holding a charge.
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 4674	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:54:00 - [97] - Quote You cant be serious... If you get beaten by an AR in CQC, it just means they were better than you, the AR is the most worthless Rifle right now. Fatal Absolution Operation - LVL 5 Fatal Absolution Pro. - LVL 5 FOTM Abuser, outta mah way Nyain San!
OZAROW Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 1282	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:56:00 - [98] - Quote Checkmate I love you but dude, HELL NO, treat it like the faylock and make it shoot bubbles. SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2710	Posted - 2014.01.23 00:58:00 - [99] - Quote LOL!! The SCR needs a buff?! That punchline is just great... Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
mollerz Minja Scouts 2084	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:00:00 - [100] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. Scope. Give it a damn scope.[/quote] I know right. how about add/remove scope on all weapons? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

Ripcord19981 KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND Legacy Rising 359	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:06:00 - [101] - Quote Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. yep, us mataris need a lovin too. and yea i dont think the SCR is bad but the amarr assault needs that heat build up bonus I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either. Turkey sammich>taco
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3928	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:17:00 - [102] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: You cant be serious... If you get beaten by an AR in CQC, it just means they were better than you, the AR is the most worthless Rifle right now. I actually think the SCR is the worst rifle now (still all rifles go OVER the rest of the weapons) IMO. Being the most expensive one to fit plus having the worst drawbacks while not REALLY out DPS the other ones. The Charged shot is NOT worth the risk of overheating. Again,i admitted being wrong in Page 3. It seems that even the SMALL buff i proposed would make the SCR way ''too OP'', at least the community thinks this... I'll just have to change my weapon then.... Considering the STANDARD Combat rifle hits harder PER R1 Button Press than MY Proto Scrambler rifle with Proficiency 4 (ONE R1 Button press = 1 STD Combat Rifle burst : 96 damage VS 89 damage per bullet my Viziam SCR with Proficiency 4, WITHOUT EVEN having to worry about overheating...), and that soon NO amarr suit will have the heat buildup reduction bonus, i think i'll take a NON Over-heatable weapon with better fitting cost as a Main weapon then..... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 212	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:41:00 - [103] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Knight Soiaire wrote: You cant be serious... If you get beaten by an AR in CQC, it just means they were better than you, the AR is the most worthless Rifle right now. I actually think the SCR is the worst rifle now (still all rifles go OVER the rest of the weapons) IMO. Being the most expensive one to fit plus having the worst drawbacks while not REALLY out DPS the other ones. The Charged shot is NOT worth the risk of overheating. Again,i admitted being wrong in Page 3. It seems that even the SMALL buff i proposed would make the SCR way ''too OP'', at least the community thinks this... I'll just have to change my weapon then.... Considering the STANDARD Combat rifle hits harder PER R1 Button Press than MY Proto Scrambler rifle with Proficiency 4 (ONE R1 Button press = 1 STD Combat Rifle burst : 96 damage VS 89 damage per bullet my Viziam SCR with Proficiency 4, WITHOUT EVEN having to worry about overheating...), and that soon NO amarr suit will have the heat buildup reduction bonus, i think i'll take a NON Over-heatable weapon with better fitting cost as a Main weapon then..... The problem is modded controllers on Ak.0 assaults. Also, the CR is not as good in CQC as the scrambler rifle (reflex scope versus tactical ACOG scope), as well as, in my opinion, better hip fire accuracy with the ScrR. If anything, the scrambler rifle and combat rifle should get a rof nerf so that they would achieve maximum dps at 5-6 presses per second with both, as well as a nerf to the CR, as it is easily abused as well. 5-6 presses is something achievable by most people. This would make the dps on these tactical weapons about fair to their automatic counterparts. Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3930	Posted - 2014.01.23 01:48:00 - [104] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: The problem is modded controllers on Ak.0 assaults. Also, the CR is not as good in CQC as the scrambler rifle (reflex scope versus tactical ACOG scope), as well as, in my opinion, better hip fire accuracy with the ScrR. If anything, the scrambler rifle and combat rifle should get a rof nerf so that they would achieve maximum dps at 5-6 presses per second with both, as well as a nerf to the CR, as it is easily abused as well. 5-6 presses is something achievable by most people. This would make the dps on these tactical weapons about fair to their automatic counterparts. GÖª well the problem doesnt affect me because i use a regular DS3 controller. GÖª The CR is far better than the SCR at CQ. BETTER HIPFIRE, more shots BEFORE needing to reload (or in the case of SCR, overheat) and More DPS unless you use a Charged shot, will you CANT miss or you will loose vs any other weapon due to overheat. GÖª The RoF Nerf does not sound reasonable taking in consideration that as it is, they barely keep up with the Rail Rifle and are on equal ground as the AR. Nerfing them would make them UP.Just look at the TAC and BURST AR. GÖª '' the scrambler rifle and combat rifle should get a rof nerf so that they would achieve maximum dps at 5-6 presses per second with both, as well as a nerf to the CR, as it is easily abused as well. 5-6 presses is something achievable by most people. This would make the dps on these tactical weapons about fair to their automatic counterparts'' NO NO NO NO. The automatic counterparts just press R1 and follow. DPS you calculate is not the same in Math that it is on the battlefield,where MISSING shots is a possibility. If i just spam R1 as fast as i can with both the CR and the SCR i might rist Overheat/spend a clip and not even Kill an enemy,there by more careful aiming is needed. The POTENTIAL damage these weapons have is what makes them valuable. If you nerf their DPS to ''AUTOMATIC'' level, then there will be no real reason to use any variant but the automatic! Same DPS but easier to hit with...... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 3830	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:13:00 - [105] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Atiim wrote: CCP doesn't care about us Matari either. Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. The Minmatar Commando & Sentinel bonuses are pretty good, that I will admit. But the new Minmatar Assault bonus is garbage. We lose 100 round clip SMGs, 15 Clip SCPs, and 9 Clip Flaylock Pistols, just to get an extra 2.5% bonus to damage mods. That's a garbage bonus, and CCP should feel bad about thinking it. Though we will be the best AV suits in the game. Which pleases me ever-so. (Bar the Sentinels. That goes to the Caldari) Not to mention your combat rifle I love my Combat Rifles. Yet another piece of perfection straight from Boundless Creations. Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. Mass Drivers were only strong when you were going up against armored dropsuits, carried Flux Grenades, and/or used it in CQC/Indoor areas, which is where it's strength lies. (Also known as niche). A Mass Driver in wide open areas would almost always get shredded by ARs and SCRs. Flaylocks were OP, but CCP went way to far. They are both garbage right now. WTH are you talking about? The fact that as it currently stands, we the Matari have very few nice things in comparison to the Amarrian scum. I bolded the text you wrote, as I know you have vision problems. Next On To-Do List: Particle Cannons
Alldin Kan Imperfects Negative-Feedback 949	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:40:00 - [106] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: NEEDS A BUFF. NOw before everybody starts loosing their s**... Hear me out.* The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying. And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise. THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP... There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon! I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. OR a PROPER SCOPE /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// EDIT from PAGE 3: Well guess i was WRONG then. Seems its just me feeling the SCR is Underpowered vs other Rifles. SO i'll shush now. Have you met my Scrambler Rifle? I can rip apart heavies faster than with an HMG. Uprising 1.7 - TANKDOMINATION!!1!!1! LOL Commando LOL Plasma Cannon
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3937	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:41:00 - [107] - Quote @ Atiim : thanks for the boldies. Really helped. But the new Minmatar Assault bonus is garbage. We lose 100 round clip SMGs, 15 Clip SCPs, and 9 Clip Flaylock Pistols, just to get an extra 2.5% bonus to damage mods.That's a garbage bonus, and CCP should feel bad about thinking it. -JUST An extra 2.5 on damage mods on a 5 High slot suit XD. its not a Bad bonus since it can be applied to both sidearms and light weapons! so its less specialized. Plus, lets compare: Matari: Sidearm clip size changed to : Damage modifier effectiveness. (With 2-3 cx dam mods, prof 5 any weapon will simply destroy everything) So you lost a Very good skill,but gained a good one. Amarr: 5% Heat buildup on laser weapons reduction changed to : 5% effectivness on Armor repairers. We lost an UNIQUE bonus (no other suit could replicate it) and got the worst bonus there is. OUR bonus is so crappy , that it only gets WORSE when you realize any half brained player will use at MOST 2 cx Armor reps. WE DONT HAVE 5 SLOTS to abuse the ''effectiveness'' of our module, and the difference it makes is 1.25 HP per sec on armor repairers at complex level. THIS , is a GARBAGE Bonus. Imagine, AMARR LOGIS HAD it , and even then no one use it to reach high armor rep levels...AND the logi has 4 Low slots....imagine how useless it is on the amarr assault Ak.0 with only 3 slots! now imagine how useless it is on bot hthe STD level amarr assault and the ADV level amarr assault (1 and 2 low slots respectively). Mass Drivers were only strong when you were going up against armored dropsuits, carried Flux Grenades, and/or used it in CQC/Indoor areas, which is where it's strength lies. (Also known as niche). A Mass Driver in wide open areas would almost always get shredded by ARs and SCRs. Flaylocks were OP, but CCP went way to far. They are both garbage right now. -Yes they are and they need a buff. BUT , back to the original point. Mataris dont have it as bad as Amarrians since every time you get something new, is OP into oblivion, so much that needs future nerfs... THIS was my point. The fact that as it currently stands, we the Matari have very few nice things in comparison to the Amarrian scum. -Might be true.... NOW. Because of NERFS. But as It currently stands. when Mataris get new stuff, its cool new OP stuff and then needs nerf. Amarr gets new crappy stuff. Period... XD GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3937	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:44:00 - [108] - Quote Alldin Kan wrote: Have you met my Scrambler Rifle? I can rip apart heavies faster than with an HMG. NO i havnt. No im not talking about heavies. Im talking in the Rifle vs Rifle scenario. No it shouldnt take to be an awesome player to be able to use a weapon correctly. Yes im a SCR user and yes im having trouble vs other rifles. Extra note: Damage mod stackers do not impress me. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Ironyimation Inception Ancient Erectiles 61	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:53:00 - [109] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Alldin Kan wrote: Have you met my Scrambler Rifle? I can rip apart heavies faster than with an HMG. NO i havnt. No im not talking about heavies. Im talking in the Rifle vs Rifle scenario. No it shouldnt take to be an awesome player to be able to use a weapon correctly. Yes im a SCR user and yes im having trouble vs other rifles. Extra note: Damage mod stackers do not impress me. Lets change SCR to sniper now
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.01.23 02:59:00 - [110] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: And yet I went 65\6 with it today... I assume if you are judging how often it is used compared to other rifle it is UP But if you give it a buff now i just imagine myself being stupid high-scores with it. If you see Viktor in FW and you're not Amarr , run. Squading with him it's hard to get any kills. The Scr needs no buff. Although the Amarr bonus was the only one that made sense. They should have given all the suits unique likeable bonuses. It would make choosing a suit and play style more rewarding. Now everything is grey. No color. Amarr Factional Warfare Loyalist Minnmatar in Amarr Armor I am a Wolf in Sheeps Clothing

Tallen Ellecon KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 1298	Posted - 2014.01.23 06:08:00 - [111] - Quote I would argue that the SR is the best rifle, but it requires the most skill to use. Where is my Gallente sidearm? 1.8? When is that? SoonGäó514
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1096	Posted - 2014.01.23 06:54:00 - [112] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: And yet I went 65\6 with it today... I assume if you are judging how often it is used compared to other rifle it is UP But if you give it a buff now i just imagine myself being stupid high-scores with it. If you see Viktor in FW and you're not Amarr , run. Squading with him it's hard to get any kills. The Scr needs no buff. Although the Amarr bonus was the only one that made sense. They should have given all the suits unique likeable bonuses. It would make choosing a suit and play style more rewarding. Now everything is grey. No color. Vik is my hero. 69. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 906	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:10:00 - [113] - Quote ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus The Sinwarden
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1098	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:20:00 - [114] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 906	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:25:00 - [115] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. I am not one for respecs, neither do I care since I have been extremely careful and specific about my SP allocation But... I skilled into the ScR and the Assault ak.0 the day it came out, why? because the suit and the weapon are two parts to a weapons system. One that costs near 4 mil SP for just the suit and the weapon, I skilled into the ScR because it is my weapon of choice and I skilled into the ak.0 because it was the suit that complimented my weapon. Now, after 7 patches of me perfecting my chosen role and spending all my SP into maximizing the weapon system that is a Scrambler Rifle on an Amarr Assault suit, they (might) change it. Yes I realize this might sound biased but I believe this is reasonable grounds for a respec or at least refund. But you know what CCP? Keep the bonus and I wont complain. Take it away? then well, I guess I'm in for some tough adaptation. The Sinwarden
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1098	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:33:00 - [116] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. I am not one for respecs, neither do I care since I have been extremely careful and specific about my SP allocation But... I skilled into the ScR and the Assault ak.0 the day it came out, why? because the suit and the weapon are two parts to a weapons system. One that costs near 4 mil SP for just the suit and the weapon, I skilled into the ScR because it is my weapon of choice and I skilled into the ak.0 because it was the suit that complimented my weapon. Now, after 7 patches of me perfecting my chosen role and spending all my SP into maximizing the weapon system that is a Scrambler Rifle on an Amarr Assault suit, they (might) change it. Yes I realize this might sound biased but I believe this is reasonable grounds for a respec or at least refund. But you know what CCP? Keep the bonus and I wont complain. Take it away? then well, I guess I'm in for some tough adaptation. You and me both, bud...although I may just stick to it, change or not, and hope for the best. I'm still holding out hope, though, that CCP listens to it's loyal Ak.0/SCR or LR users. You hit the nail on the head. Damn a respec as long as you keep the Amarr assault bonus the same. If you change it, well then... PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 907	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:49:00 - [117] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. I am not one for respecs, neither do I care since I have been extremely careful and specific about my SP allocation But... I skilled into the ScR and the Assault ak.0 the day it came out, why? because the suit and the weapon are two parts to a weapons system. One that costs near 4 mil SP for just the suit and the weapon, I skilled into the ScR because it is my weapon of choice and I skilled into the ak.0 because it was the suit that complimented my weapon. Now, after 7 patches of me perfecting my chosen role and spending all my SP into maximizing the weapon system that is a Scrambler Rifle on an Amarr Assault suit, they (might) change it. Yes I realize this might sound biased but I believe this is reasonable grounds for a respec or at least refund. But you know what CCP? Keep the bonus and I wont complain. Take it away? then well, I guess I'm in for some tough adaptation. You and me both, bud...although I may just stick to it, change or not, and hope for the best. I'm still holding out hope, though, that CCP listens to it's loyal Ak.0/SCR or LR users. You hit the nail on the head. Damn a respec as long as you keep the Amarr assault bonus the same. If you change it, well then... I'm just going off facts; No Respec unless sweeping changes are introduced? Well they are planning on sweeping the heat sink off my suit :/ On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. What do you think Lea? The Sinwarden
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 529	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:50:00 - [118] - Quote scrambler rifle is OP as hell away with you!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8259	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:51:00 - [119] - Quote SCR is the worst rifle? ... Are you trolling? The only time I would prefer another rifle would be in very CQC maps where I might use a combat rifle instead. I'm sorry, but if you're losing 1v1 to rail rifles, unless it's right on the edge of their range, the problem is not the rifle. The weapon is powerful without the heat bonus. With it, it morphs into an insane death machine that really has few equals. Of course, we -might- be losing the Amarr assault bonus but that isn't set in stone and even if we do the weapon will still be good. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 907	Posted - 2014.01.23 07:54:00 - [120] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SCR is the worst rifle? ... Are you trolling? The only time I would prefer another rifle would be in very CQC maps where I might use a combat rifle instead. I'm sorry, but if you're losing 1v1 to rail rifles, unless it's right on the edge of their range, the problem is not the rifle. The weapon is powerful without the heat bonus. With it, it morphs into an insane death machine that really has few equals. Of course, we -might- be losing the Amarr assault bonus but that isn't set in stone and even if we do the weapon will still be good. I definitely agree, the ScR will still be powerful especially in the right hands. But, the ScR is not the issue here; its the Amarr Assault suit thats the real issue. I spent about 2.5 Mil SP on a heatsink for my ScR, and now they might take it away. It's like as if the Minmatar Scout lost its bonus to Knives, it alters the weapon system. Why should I have an Amarr Assault if I can use the ScR just as well or better on another suit? Would that be grounds for a respec? I say to hell with a respec and just let me keep the reason I sank millions of SP into a particular suit and weapon. The Sinwarden

Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 4132	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:12:00 - [121] - Quote He.....he's kidding right? Minja cries in corner wishing cloaks were deployed already Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 833	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:13:00 - [122] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: NEEDS A BUFF. NOw before everybody starts loosing their s**... Hear me out.* The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying. And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise. THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP... There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon! I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots. OR a PROPER SCOPE /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// EDIT from PAGE 3: Well guess i was WRONG then. Seems its just me feeling the SCR is Underpowered vs other Rifles. SO i'll shush now. now that i actually red this thread... the scrambler rifle is still very powerful, but in the right hands, the SCR is a very hig dps weapon and the CR is similar to that beaacuase of its high ROF and burst mechanic. they are specifaclly meant to fight each other (lore wise) and it is/will loose to a RR or CR sometimes but if your smart and know how to use a SCR then you wont have a problem. i find them more balanced than what they used to be and i am alright with that, and IMO they are pretty fine at both close and mid-long range Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8262	Posted - 2014.01.23 08:47:00 - [123] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: SCR is the worst rifle? ... Are you trolling? The only time I would prefer another rifle would be in very CQC maps where I might use a combat rifle instead. I'm sorry, but if you're losing 1v1 to rail rifles, unless it's right on the edge of their range, the problem is not the rifle. The weapon is powerful without the heat bonus. With it, it morphs into an insane death machine that really has few equals. Of course, we -might- be losing the Amarr assault bonus but that isn't set in stone and even if we do the weapon will still be good. I definitely agree, the ScR will still be powerful especially in the right hands. But, the ScR is not the issue here; its the Amarr Assault suit thats the real issue. I spent about 2.5 Mil SP on a heatsink for my ScR, and now they might take it away. It's like as if the Minmatar Scout lost its bonus to Knives, it alters the weapon system. Why should I have an Amarr Assault if I can use the ScR just as well or better on another suit? Would that be grounds for a respec? I say to hell with a respec and just let me keep the reason I sank millions of SP into a particular suit and weapon. Agree 100%. Effectiveness aside, the role of the Amarr assault is to augment laser weaponry. Most people have specced into it specifically for that reason. By removing the heat bonus, that role is destroyed. It's really sad to see that the only synergistic weapon/suit combination is going. I wish it was used as a model for other assaults rather than being done away with. That synergy is what I like best about it. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 828	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:32:00 - [124] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
Vell0cet SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 828	Posted - 2014.01.23 15:35:00 - [125] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It's really sad to see that the only synergistic weapon/suit combination is going. I wish it was used as a model for other assaults rather than being done away with. That synergy is what I like best about it. QFT! I hope CCP reconsiders. Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 910	Posted - 2014.01.23 16:42:00 - [126] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle The Sinwarden
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2045	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:27:00 - [127] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Vell0cet wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle I also run CR on my scout and logi easier to fit modules/equipment. Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 911	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:34:00 - [128] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Vell0cet wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle I also run CR on my scout and logi easier to fit modules/equipment. But, what better way to train for an impending loss of heat sink than with a Scout gk.0 and Viziam ScR :D But I can't do more than 2 volleys anymore :( My training with the ScR has made sure I lead all my shots with a charge, I'm going to have to literally change my muscle memory because this play style was built around the heat sink, it is inefficient (heat management wise) to play this way without the assault ak.0 Let me reiterate; After 7 patches of practice and mastery and an investment of about 4 million SP at the very least, I'm going to have to alter my play-style completely. I'm not complaining, just saying it like it is. The Sinwarden
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 3662	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:39:00 - [129] - Quote No. An all-around nerf of the assault rifles needs to happen instead. Rail rifles are better than scramblers, but scramblers are still OP as hell. We used to have a time machine
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 977	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:42:00 - [130] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: No. An all-around nerf of the assault rifles needs to happen instead. Rail rifles are better than scramblers, but scramblers are still OP as hell. WHA-THE-SHI-? Why are you guys doing my baby like this? D: Why. It's not even good. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Scout Registry Nos Nothi 965	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:43:00 - [131] - Quote @ King Checkmate Yes, the RR and CR are strong weapons. So is the AR. On paper, the ScR is the best weapon in the game. If you're losing to RRs and CRs, then I suspect: 1) They're getting the drop on you. 2) You're doing it wrong.
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1383	Posted - 2014.01.23 17:58:00 - [132] - Quote with 5m SP I can put up 40+ kills with it and could get 30+ with 4M SP. that's not even with a proto SCR or complex damage mods. if you're not melting people's faces off faster than they can blink, you're not doing it right,.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3978	Posted - 2014.01.23 22:41:00 - [133] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: @ King Checkmate On paper, the ScR is the best weapon in the game. Yes, the RR and CR are strong weapons. So is the AR. But they certainly aren't better than the ScR. If you're losing to RRs and CRs, then I suspect: 1) They're getting the drop on you. 2) You're doing it wrong. 3) You're punching above your weight. I guess is fair to say i've been lossing with the SCR using a 204HP scout. (think id didnt say for obvious reasons XD,i still do VERY Good with the Assault Amarr) But still my point standed. I did great with any other Rifle variant on the same scout. IMO , ( i know many people make due without but...) The heat sink bonus loss on the amarr assault is something the SCR shoull universaly have - 25% Heat buildup to the SCR as a buff , but to not sound too pushy , i decided it would be better to buff it on charge shots only to make people use this instead of the quick R1 spam. Again almost 100% of the people think im nuts. I think its ridiculous to loose the Amarr Assault bonus, the only one thing that made he weapon work for me... As it is, happens many times, without those 25% Heat sink, i can overheat and NOT drop a MEd Frame with all shots hit.... But whatevs.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Lea Silencio 0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1102	Posted - 2014.01.24 04:50:00 - [134] - Quote 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: Lea Silencio wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. I am not one for respecs, neither do I care since I have been extremely careful and specific about my SP allocation But... I skilled into the ScR and the Assault ak.0 the day it came out, why? because the suit and the weapon are two parts to a weapons system. One that costs near 4 mil SP for just the suit and the weapon, I skilled into the ScR because it is my weapon of choice and I skilled into the ak.0 because it was the suit that complimented my weapon. Now, after 7 patches of me perfecting my chosen role and spending all my SP into maximizing the weapon system that is a Scrambler Rifle on an Amarr Assault suit, they (might) change it. Yes I realize this might sound biased but I believe this is reasonable grounds for a respec or at least refund. But you know what CCP? Keep the bonus and I wont complain. Take it away? then well, I guess I'm in for some tough adaptation. You and me both, bud...although I may just stick to it, change or not, and hope for the best. I'm still holding out hope, though, that CCP listens to it's loyal Ak.0/SCR or LR users. You hit the nail on the head. Damn a respec as long as you keep the Amarr assault bonus the same. If you change it, well then... I'm just going off facts; No Respec unless sweeping changes are introduced? Well they are planning on sweeping the heat sink off my suit :/ On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. What do you think Lea? I like my assault's survivability tbh. I may try scout, but only as a novelty. My main is assault or bust. PurificationGäó It's what I do. Amarr Victor


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