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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 08:12:00 -
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He.....he's kidding right?
*Minja cries in corner wishing cloaks were deployed already*
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
833
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Posted - 2014.01.23 08:13:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:NEEDS A BUFF.
NOw before everybody starts loosing their s***... Hear me out. The RR owns the SCR in every range. The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press) The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying.
And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise.
THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP...
There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays. Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it. AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon!
I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots.
OR
a PROPER SCOPE
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// EDIT from PAGE 3: Well guess i was WRONG then. Seems its just me feeling the SCR is Underpowered vs other Rifles. SO i'll shush now. now that i actually red this thread...
the scrambler rifle is still very powerful, but in the right hands, the SCR is a very hig dps weapon and the CR is similar to that beaacuase of its high ROF and burst mechanic. they are specifaclly meant to fight each other (lore wise) and it is/will loose to a RR or CR sometimes but if your smart and know how to use a SCR then you wont have a problem.
i find them more balanced than what they used to be and i am alright with that, and IMO they are pretty fine at both close and mid-long range
Trust the rust In Rust We Trust Vhreokor Warrior
jack of all trades winmatar specialist master dual tanker
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
8262
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Posted - 2014.01.23 08:47:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:SCR is the worst rifle? ... Are you trolling?
The only time I would prefer another rifle would be in very CQC maps where I might use a combat rifle instead.
I'm sorry, but if you're losing 1v1 to rail rifles, unless it's right on the edge of their range, the problem is not the rifle.
The weapon is powerful without the heat bonus. With it, it morphs into an insane death machine that really has few equals. Of course, we -might- be losing the Amarr assault bonus but that isn't set in stone and even if we do the weapon will still be good. I definitely agree, the ScR will still be powerful especially in the right hands. But, the ScR is not the issue here; its the Amarr Assault suit thats the real issue. I spent about 2.5 Mil SP on a heatsink for my ScR, and now they might take it away. It's like as if the Minmatar Scout lost its bonus to Knives, it alters the weapon system. Why should I have an Amarr Assault if I can use the ScR just as well or better on another suit? Would that be grounds for a respec? I say to hell with a respec and just let me keep the reason I sank millions of SP into a particular suit and weapon.
Agree 100%. Effectiveness aside, the role of the Amarr assault is to augment laser weaponry. Most people have specced into it specifically for that reason. By removing the heat bonus, that role is destroyed.
It's really sad to see that the only synergistic weapon/suit combination is going. I wish it was used as a model for other assaults rather than being done away with. That synergy is what I like best about it.
Level 8 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
828
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:32:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
828
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's really sad to see that the only synergistic weapon/suit combination is going. I wish it was used as a model for other assaults rather than being done away with. That synergy is what I like best about it. QFT! I hope CCP reconsiders.
Quick/Dirty Test Range Idea
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
910
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:42:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc.
I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle
The Sinwarden
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2045
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:27:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Vell0cet wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle
I also run CR on my scout and logi easier to fit modules/equipment.
Selling Templar BPO 250Mil
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
911
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:34:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Vell0cet wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. IMO the CR would be a much better choice on the scout suit mostly due to its low fitting requirements. It's a fantastic hit and run weapon that really compliments the scout play style. Scouts need as much CPU/PG as they can get to fit those crazy modules like damps, cloaks, sig radius enhancers, scanners, REs, etc. I already run the CR on the scout suit, but the ScR is my weapon; anyone who knows me knows this. Nothing makes me feel more comfortable than the Scrambler Rifle I also run CR on my scout and logi easier to fit modules/equipment.
But, what better way to train for an impending loss of heat sink than with a Scout gk.0 and Viziam ScR :D But I can't do more than 2 volleys anymore :( My training with the ScR has made sure I lead all my shots with a charge, I'm going to have to literally change my muscle memory because this play style was built around the heat sink, it is inefficient (heat management wise) to play this way without the assault ak.0
Let me reiterate; After 7 patches of practice and mastery and an investment of about 4 million SP at the very least, I'm going to have to alter my play-style completely. I'm not complaining, just saying it like it is.
The Sinwarden
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
3662
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:39:00 -
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No.
An all-around nerf of the assault rifles needs to happen instead.
Rail rifles are better than scramblers, but scramblers are still OP as hell.
We used to have a time machine
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
977
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:42:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:No.
An all-around nerf of the assault rifles needs to happen instead.
Rail rifles are better than scramblers, but scramblers are still OP as hell.
WHA-THE-SHI-?
Why are you guys doing my baby like this? D: Why. It's not even good.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Scout Registry
Nos Nothi
965
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:43:00 -
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@ King Checkmate
Yes, the RR and CR are strong weapons. So is the AR. On paper, the ScR is the best weapon in the game.
If you're losing to RRs and CRs, then I suspect: 1) They're getting the drop on you. 2) You're doing it wrong. |
CrotchGrab 360
The Men In The Mirror
1383
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Posted - 2014.01.23 17:58:00 -
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with 5m SP I can put up 40+ kills with it and could get 30+ with 4M SP.
that's not even with a proto SCR or complex damage mods.
if you're not melting people's faces off faster than they can blink, you're not doing it right,. |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3978
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Posted - 2014.01.23 22:41:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:@ King Checkmate
On paper, the ScR is the best weapon in the game. Yes, the RR and CR are strong weapons. So is the AR. But they certainly aren't better than the ScR.
If you're losing to RRs and CRs, then I suspect: 1) They're getting the drop on you. 2) You're doing it wrong. 3) You're punching above your weight.
I guess is fair to say i've been lossing with the SCR using a 204HP scout. (think id didnt say for obvious reasons XD,i still do VERY Good with the Assault Amarr)
But still my point standed. I did great with any other Rifle variant on the same scout. IMO , ( i know many people make due without but...) The heat sink bonus loss on the amarr assault is something the SCR shoull universaly have - 25% Heat buildup to the SCR as a buff , but to not sound too pushy , i decided it would be better to buff it on charge shots only to make people use this instead of the quick R1 spam. Again almost 100% of the people think im nuts. I think its ridiculous to loose the Amarr Assault bonus, the only one thing that made he weapon work for me...
As it is, happens many times, without those 25% Heat sink, i can overheat and NOT drop a MEd Frame with all shots hit....
But whatevs....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Lea Silencio
0uter.Heaven Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1102
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Posted - 2014.01.24 04:50:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Lea Silencio wrote:1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:ScR needs no buff at its current state, just keep the Assault ak.0 Bonus Agreed x 1,000. All we loyal Amarr assault players want is to keep our racial bonus. It is why we skilled into that suit in the first place, CCP. I am not one for respecs, neither do I care since I have been extremely careful and specific about my SP allocation But... I skilled into the ScR and the Assault ak.0 the day it came out, why? because the suit and the weapon are two parts to a weapons system. One that costs near 4 mil SP for just the suit and the weapon, I skilled into the ScR because it is my weapon of choice and I skilled into the ak.0 because it was the suit that complimented my weapon. Now, after 7 patches of me perfecting my chosen role and spending all my SP into maximizing the weapon system that is a Scrambler Rifle on an Amarr Assault suit, they (might) change it. Yes I realize this might sound biased but I believe this is reasonable grounds for a respec or at least refund. But you know what CCP? Keep the bonus and I wont complain. Take it away? then well, I guess I'm in for some tough adaptation. You and me both, bud...although I may just stick to it, change or not, and hope for the best. I'm still holding out hope, though, that CCP listens to it's loyal Ak.0/SCR or LR users. You hit the nail on the head. Damn a respec as long as you keep the Amarr assault bonus the same. If you change it, well then... I'm just going off facts; No Respec unless sweeping changes are introduced? Well they are planning on sweeping the heat sink off my suit :/ On the other hand, with some more practice I might run the ScR on an Amarr Scout, that'd be interesting. What do you think Lea?
I like my assault's survivability tbh. I may try scout, but only as a novelty. My main is assault or bust.
PurificationGäó
It's what I do.
Amarr Victor
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