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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3860
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Posted - 2014.01.21 03:55:00 -
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NEEDS A BUFF.
NOw before everybody starts loosing their s***...
Hear me out.
The RR owns the SCR in every range.
The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press)
The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying.
And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise.
THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP...
There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays.
Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it.
AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon!
I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Mobius Wyvern
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
4498
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Posted - 2014.01.21 03:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:NEEDS A BUFF.
NOw before everybody starts loosing their s***...
Hear me out.
The RR owns the SCR in every range.
The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press)
The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying.
And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise.
THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP...
There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays.
Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it.
AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon!
I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots.
Scope. Give it a damn scope.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1993
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Posted - 2014.01.21 03:59:00 -
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And yet I went 65\6 with it today...
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3861
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:01:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:And yet I went 65\6 with it today...
You use an Amarr assault.Soon you wont have your Heat buildup bonus.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3738
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:04:00 -
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CCP doesn't care about us Matari either.
Just look at our suits.
What Would Larry Do?
He'd probably drink some Quafe...
Goes To Refrigerator
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Horizen Kenpachi
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:05:00 -
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Agree with u both optional scope assault no charged yes its not got a place in new eden it feels like jack of all trades master of none and the prices of fitting is lol worty when captain op cr is fittingly awesome and a joke to use lv 4 cr eats heavys like shocolate scr is pants in comparison
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ
Raging Pack of Homosapiens
182
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:08:00 -
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Heres what I think what should be done.
Increase range. Reduce clip to 25. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8234
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:08:00 -
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At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus.
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
Legacy Rising
663
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:09:00 -
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My rail rifle looses to a scrambler mostly because I'm caldari. Its a weapon that does exceedingly well against shields. The rail rifle is good against armor, and since everyone wanted armor doctrine its better against most suits. However that is not to say the scrambler doesn't hold its own, its charge shot and head shot bonus gives it quite the edge. What you are preposing would make it op and fotm, I can already see !y scrambler rifle friend dropping everything before my rail rifle charges. No. |
KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:CCP doesn't care about us Matari either.
Just look at our suits.
Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses.
Not to mention your combat rifle
Not to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed.
WTH are you talking about?
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8234
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:13:00 -
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BuTtHuRtPEepZ wrote:Heres what I think what should be done.
Increase range. Reduce clip to 25.
Range is fine. Rail weapons (rail rifle) are supposed to have the highest range, and laser tech (scrambler rifle) should have the 2nd highest range; the scrambler rifle has the 2nd highest range of all the rifles. It does not need more, it already beats the AR and CR at range.
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Ironyimation Inception
Ancient Erectiles
57
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:CCP doesn't care about us Matari either.
Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifleNot to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about?
Implying the you can't spam the viziam everywhere and get 4 kills by spraying. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2052
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:15:00 -
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Yeah, no.
Buff the AR, then we can talk.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:16:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus.
Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic.
Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption.
Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus.
A sight that does not work in its optimal range.
Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements.
I mean....
There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example.
Well..it must me just me but... : /
BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8234
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:16:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:CCP doesn't care about us Matari either.
Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifleNot to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about?
I find it amusing how you spin being nerfed into unviability (flaylock pistol) as a positive. As for the mass driver, I can't say from experience if its viable in this build, but they're pretty much extinct.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:17:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, no.
Buff the AR, then we can talk.
The AR is still King of Spray and Pray.
I still own Groups of people with my Toxin AR....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Heimdallr69
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
1410
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:17:00 -
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Maybe the assault scrambler but the regular scrambler no..charge and hit your target
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
WINMATAR.
3060
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:18:00 -
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You're joking right?
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:18:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:CCP doesn't care about us Matari either.
Just look at our suits. Your suits look pretty good to me.Specially with the new bonuses. Not to mention your combat rifleNot to mention the MAss Driver and FP that was so OP that had to be nerfed. WTH are you talking about? I find it amusing how you spin being nerfed into unviability (flaylock pistol) as a positive. As for the mass driver, I can't say from experience if its viable in this build, but they're pretty much extinct.
Im not saying it was nerfed into oblivion that is GOOd.
Im saying it was SO GOOD that it had to be nerfed into oblivion. Same with Mass drivers....
MD is extinct as Main weapon. As Sidearm works Great XD.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Lonewolf Heavy
ROGUE SPADES
33
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:20:00 -
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LEAVE MY DAMN SR ALONE DAMNIT! ITS FINE
I literally wreck the hell out of people with my standard one, its called charge your shots. 1 well placed charged shot puts down almost anyone at standard, stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon.
Im a damn commando and I get put down all the time by SR's
I use all 4 Rifles and i think all of them are fine, how i beat each one
RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges,
CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in
SR close in fast and dont pop out until close enough to get a kill shot
AR keep distant
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:20:00 -
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Considering the Removal of the Amarr assault bonus and the Proposed BUFF i made, i think its fair.
I'll leave it at this.
You guys keep posting hate below. TY.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2052
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:22:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Yeah, no.
Buff the AR, then we can talk. The AR is still King of Spray and Pray.
I still own Groups of people with my Toxin AR....
That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles.
It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
103
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:22:00 -
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Remove all rifles and replace them with sticks and stones with the proper bonuses for 3 achieve race I say... they may break my bones... 
If all else fails, spec into rr, ar, cr and md proto rank 4 specialist... I did.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:24:00 -
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@ Lonewolf Heavy:
.... stop trying to use it like a tac rifle and use it as a charge shot weapon.
/You wont believe this, but i actually have some gungame with the SCR....
RR i close in fast and keep shooting because its not strong at closer ranges,
/RR is VERY strong at CQ. Has Near perfect hipfire too.
CR If on an assault i fall back and carefully place shots if on logi i close in
/You will fall back? in the scenario there is where to fall back and IF those 1200RPM in your butt dont kill you fast enough. If not , your done.
AR keep distant
/And if there is no distance to be made? Like say, A in the LAbs?
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GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
424
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:24:00 -
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it's fine lol.
just give me a proper scope. I.E: Codex camera sights
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:25:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:
That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles.
It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon.
When i use the AR i dont get beaten Close range by RR or SCR.
CR do beat me most of the times thou.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Squagga
The State Protectorate
31
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:25:00 -
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I proto'd into scrambler rifles and there have been plenty of times when I've offed myself due to overheating. I would agree that a longer build up would be good for this weapon. I also think that 50% is too much. 25%-30% would be agreeable. I also don't agree with the scope idea .. it has a reflex sight .. but then again that's my favorite sight .. so maybe I'm just biased
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
3863
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 -
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Squagga wrote:I proto'd into scrambler rifles and there have been plenty of times when I've offed myself due to overheating. I would agree that a longer build up would be good for this weapon. I also think that 50% is too much. 25%-30% would be agreeable. I also don't agree with the scope idea .. it has a reflex sight .. but then again that's my favorite sight .. so maybe I'm just biased
Its 50% heat build reduction TO CHARGED SHOTS ONLY!
Does anybody actually reads what i write anymore? or just get in to say ''no'' and leave?
XD
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2052
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
That would be fine if it wasn't beaten at close range by every other rifle and assault variant of said rifles.
It has the highest hipfire dispersion then any other rifle...it should be the best hip fire weapon.
When i use the AR i dont get beaten Close range by RR or SCR.
CR do beat me most of the times thou.
At least the CR is meant to have some close range ability.
But damn is it annoying when my duvolle loses to a std RR or ScR.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
8234
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:At mid range the SCR can defeat AR and CR users pretty well, has the 2nd highest range, and can even work well in close range if you go about it correctly. I think its fine the way it is, and far from underpowered. I would love to have a closed style camera-sight though. The only thing that worries me is the removal of the assault bonus. Highest Drawback, Overheat mechanic.
Highest PG consumption.High CPU consumption.
Assault Amar loosing the heat buildup bonus.
A sight that does not work in its optimal range.
Weak in anything but 1 on 1 engagements.I mean.... There really isnt a reason to use the SCR over the RR for example. Well..it must me just me but... : /
BTW this posts is based on observations and slight testing with each weapon in different scenarios. I'll be using scouts soon and i dont think i'll use the SCR anymore, doesnt mean i wont speak my mind on it. TY.
Highest base damage
Charge shot to one-hit-kill most suits.
2nd highest range
PG/CPU is manageable, especially if you have maxed out core skills.
Sight is not ideal, I would like a camera-sight for viewing at higher ranges, like I already said.
The Amarr assault bonus bonus removal is a problem in my opinion, like I already said. This has not happened yet, so cannot be used as justification to say the SCR is underpowered.
If CCP goes through with changing the assault bonus, then a 15% reduction of heat buildup (equivalent of Amarr assault lv 3) is the only buff it would need in my opinion. I currently have Amarr assault level 3 only, and I find the SCR to be a viable and useful weapon.
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