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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:39:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:NEEDS A BUFF.
NOw before everybody starts loosing their s***...
Hear me out.
The RR owns the SCR in every range.
The CR owns the SCR in its own range (Each burst representing at least 96 damage{at STD level}, its a LOT more than the 79.5 per bullet a VIZIAM SCR can deal per R1 Button press)
The AR still owns the SCR at Closer ranges and Spraying and praying.
And both the AR and the Combat rifle are a LOT more cheaper than the Scrambler R to equip CPU/PG wise.
THE SCR rifles SHOULD be at the same level as the other rifles,but as always, amarr tech has been neglected lately by CCP...
There is a reason why the SCR rifle is almost completley unused nowadays.
Huge disadvantages, nothing to make them worth it.
AND NOW,the amarr Assault will LOOSE the bonus that increased the DPS output of the weapon!
I propose a 50% REDUCTION IN HEAT BUILDUP , for charged shots.
OR
a PROPER SCOPE
The problem isn't the scrambler rifle, its the rifle dps for all rifles. Your reasoning for the combat rifle is clever but has a fatal flaw, which is that the rof accounts for the 3 shot burst.
Lets look at some rifle dps:
scrambler rifle is 705 rpm
79.5 damage per bullet.
combat rifle is 1200 rpm divided by 3=400 rpm of 96 damage shot
dpm ScrR=705x79.5=56047.5
dpm CR=400x96=38400
dps ScrR= 56047.5/60=934.125
dps CR=38400/60=640
in addition to the scrambler rifle nearly tripling the dps of the SMG (non assault variant comes out to around 350 isn for STD) it is also capable of a charged shot capability which takes out any shield value in the game with one shot, and more. if anything, the heat buildup should be increased.
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:45:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Considering the Removal of the Amarr assault bonus and the Proposed BUFF i made, i think its fair.
I'll leave it at this.
You guys keep posting hate below. TY.
Your lobbying will only unbalance the game in favor of modded controllers on amarr assaults, which would take out 100% of the variety in the game. Currently, Assault a k.0 with a viziam scrambler rifle and 3x damage mods is the top tier FOTM, and arguing that this gun, which is currently the strongest in the game, especially with aim assist, needs to be buffed is silly, and i respectfully disagree with what you are trying to do. The guns that do need a buff are the laser rifle, nova knives, plasma cannon, and also possibly the shotgun (more for hit detection and possibly range than anything else though for that one)
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:51:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
The problem isn't the scrambler rifle, its the rifle dps for all rifles. Your reasoning for the combat rifle is clever but has a fatal flaw, which is that the rof accounts for the 3 shot burst.
Lets look at some rifle dps:
scrambler rifle is 705 rpm
79.5 damage per bullet.
combat rifle is 1200 rpm divided by 3=400 rpm of 96 damage shot
dpm ScrR=705x79.5=56047.5
dpm CR=400x96=38400
dps ScrR= 56047.5/60=934.125
dps CR=38400/60=640
in addition to the scrambler rifle nearly tripling the dps of the SMG (non assault variant comes out to around 350 isn for STD) it is also capable of a charged shot capability which takes out any shield value in the game with one shot, and more. if anything, the heat buildup should be increased.
Your math is pretty. +1 But the fact is=a SINGLE press of the R1 button on my controller results in more damage for my Standard Combat rifle than my Prototype SCR. Plus the CR is a LOT easier to fit. And have a more useful sight. The only true advantage is, how you mentioned the CHARGED SHOT, which WITHOUT the amarr assault bonus is not exactly the best of features since the threat of overheating mid gunfight is not very appealing.
I personally think that the scrambler rifle needs an overheat at 10-12 shots, but it would keep its current damage, but have the op skill increase it up to 15 shots, BUT all other rifles get a huge nerf to dps and hip fire accuracy on the non assault variants (thinking 15-20%), as well as a range nerf of 5-10% for all rifles as well. but thats just me, trying to keep TTK reasonable and allowing specialty weapons to do their jobs better than rifles
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:02:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:It's been my primary weapon since the TTK debacle in 1.6 that made the LR garbage. I think it's a pretty solid weapon currently when run on an Amarr assault. I have major concerns about the Amar assault loosing its heat bonus. That's a major issue that needs to not happen.
I'd also like to see all of the racial ARs (+SMG) get a base damage nerf (10%-20%) to bring TTK back inline with other weapons like the Mass Driver, LR, Flaylock, ScP, and indirectly buffing the HMG as a result (its DPS is fine, it's the racial ARs that are outperforming it).
In my opinion, the SMG only needs a 5% damage nerf, as it has such close range, meaning it should retain its effectiveness in cqc, by making it have high DPS, but super low range. However, a nerf is still needed
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:41:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:You cant be serious...
If you get beaten by an AR in CQC, it just means they were better than you, the AR is the most worthless Rifle right now. I actually think the SCR is the worst rifle now (still all rifles go OVER the rest of the weapons) IMO. Being the most expensive one to fit plus having the worst drawbacks while not REALLY out DPS the other ones. The Charged shot is NOT worth the risk of overheating. Again,i admitted being wrong in Page 3. It seems that even the SMALL buff i proposed would make the SCR way ''too OP'', at least the community thinks this...I'll just have to change my weapon then.... Considering the STANDARD Combat rifle hits harder PER R1 Button Press than MY Proto Scrambler rifle with Proficiency 4 (ONE R1 Button press = 1 STD Combat Rifle burst : 96 damage VS 89 damage per bullet my Viziam SCR with Proficiency 4, WITHOUT EVEN having to worry about overheating...), and that soon NO amarr suit will have the heat buildup reduction bonus, i think i'll take a NON Over-heatable weapon with better fitting cost as a Main weapon then.....
The problem is modded controllers on Ak.0 assaults. Also, the CR is not as good in CQC as the scrambler rifle (reflex scope versus tactical ACOG scope), as well as, in my opinion, better hip fire accuracy with the ScrR. If anything, the scrambler rifle and combat rifle should get a rof nerf so that they would achieve maximum dps at 5-6 presses per second with both, as well as a nerf to the CR, as it is easily abused as well. 5-6 presses is something achievable by most people. This would make the dps on these tactical weapons about fair to their automatic counterparts.
Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives.
https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
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