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ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:40:00 - [1] - Quote with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:41:00 - [2] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 657	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote Yes Logis need a buff!!! Clue: I'm kidding Besides you haven't even seen the new stats yet only the skills. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8088	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all. Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 81	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:45:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all. Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can. He is complaining due to them no longer being able to slay better than any other class in the game Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
CRYPT3C W0LF Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 227	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote fall of the logis Youtube Channel =^-^=
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3780	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:48:00 - [8] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Personally I think, they need to change racial bonuses, they need assault suits to focus purely on EHP (mini excluded). Meanwhile Logi needs rep based skills, with minnie being best. Assault A: +3% Armour Plates +3% Shield Extender M: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Recharger/Energizer Logi A: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Regulator C: +5% Shield Regulator G: +5% Armour Repper M + 5% Armour Repper +5% Shield Recharge/Energizer If its done like that then, assaults are still best for assaulting, the EHP bonus paired with the ROF bonus make it perfect for pushes from cover to cover, meamwhile the rep based logi units are still capable of being on the frontline, but focus on lots of little pushes over that of the assault brethren. Theirin Logi units can do the jobs they do best, better. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:48:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much?
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:53:00 - [10] - Quote when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting. sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a***. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:53:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Depends on what you class as a true logi, I meam do you expect a "TRUE MINMATAR LOGI" to be sat behind a pair of heavies to get the most out of that skill? The thing is, so long as a logistics class has weaponry its going to kill people. Short of removing that weapon, a squad of logistics suits will ALWAYS beat a squad of assaults. Because choice (something this game is built around) is hardwired directly into the logistics class. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3783	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:56:00 - [12] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting. sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a*. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming You can use a Cloak, an active scanner,nanohives and Remote explosives all in a single suit if you want to kill.... If you think thats not enough to deal with pretty much ANYTHING .....Murderlogis have gotten soft for playing EZ mode so long...lol People forget , equipment = POWER in this game... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 423	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:08:00 - [13] - Quote Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3785	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:11:00 - [14] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please. AMARR Logis Running 3 different Spawn uplinks that spawn friendlies in 1-2 seconds? LOL OPNESS awaits.... The day 1.8 hits, Amarr become the Swarm......... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 557	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:13:00 - [15] - Quote calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1833	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:14:00 - [16] - Quote Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault. Minmatar Assault. Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:17:00 - [17] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault. But who are you going to Assault against? They are all to busy assaulting. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3788	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:19:00 - [18] - Quote OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... OR BEING A SCOUT vs Gallente logis and their scanners.... OR Facing a Heavy with 2 MIN Logis repping him.... D: GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 271	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:23:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... shudder ScP wielding zerglings everywhere. Glances at Cal logi bonus. tosses down triage nanohive bunker down boys we're going to be hear a while. When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:24:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:26:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. Pairs of heavies bowling down corridors with a logi in tow, there will be even less tactics . . . . .again. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:30:00 - [22] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f* this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits The only true thing is OVERKILL tactics is what works in dust. So yeah,spam will always be present. BTW ,CCP should give at least a dropsuit command respec. ... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:30:00 - [23] - Quote all it will take on domi is 1 amarr logi to get into the prime position and "bam" masses of uplinks, first guy to spawn in is a cal logi spamming masses of triage hives, the next is a cal logi dropping off masses of ammo hives, the next is a gal logi perma scanning meaning nothing can get in, then a few mini logis arive. now we have a heavily fortified position no one can break https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:31:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. . WTH are you talking about? This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks. The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:33:00 - [25] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine why, do people not shoot support logi's?
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:35:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. . WTH are you talking about? This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks. The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi. but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2727	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:38:00 - [27] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: all it will take on domi is 1 amarr logi to get into the prime position and "bam" masses of uplinks, first guy to spawn in is a cal logi spamming masses of triage hives, the next is a cal logi dropping off masses of ammo hives, the next is a gal logi perma scanning meaning nothing can get in, then a few mini logis arive. now we have a heavily fortified position no one can break I beg to differ. I do all of that with the current ADV Minmitar Logi suit and it's no guarantee that my blues will hold the Domination objective. As often as not they will get rolled if the other team is decent. Sometimes it happens very quickly. A few small racial bonuses isn't going to alter what you see that much. Those who are willing to put the time into support play aren't going to change and those who prefer to shoot face aren't about to soil their hands with support.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:39:00 - [28] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1399	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:44:00 - [29] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. I appreciate 1 of the 2 bonuses because it would help me be better with equipment, the other one won't be helpful at all because I don't use uplinks. What does that make me? Am I a true Logi, or a murder Logi? Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:45:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1399	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:46:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... It will be nice with all the abusers (such as yourself) in the suits they belong in. I will finally be able to wear yellow as a badge of honor! Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 534	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:50:00 - [32] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Because we don't already spam equipment? Nothing is going to change, except maybe logis won't be the best suit in the game bar none. When did logis suffer while everyone benefited? I must of missed that point in Dust.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2644	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:51:00 - [33] - Quote A logi is very valuable on the battlefield. He won't be useless cause hell, who's going to rep the big guys? And who's going to rep some random blueberry who just got revived by assault player who carries needles just for 60 WPs? Folks still going to be mad when the logi still claims the top of the leaderboard with a 3/2 KD and 2600 WP gain lol Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3790	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:51:00 - [34] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear Both opinions actually matter here since we BOTH play the same game. Not being a true logibro does not mean i can not speak my mind on the matter. The mere thought of it makes me think a little less of you. So you know, i did not ''ABUSE'' the logi suit into nerf. I use a Profile dampened murder logi with dual SMG's, Nanos, Injector and A.Scanner. This, because scouts have lots of disadvantages and i was not surviving in open maps. I DOUBT they are nerfing logis because of me. I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. If I was a true logi,i would take 5% CPU-PG reduction on EQ per level over 1HP/sec per level bonus anyday. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 445	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:54:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Cept for the fact I hate using the rep tool, because it clunky and people think it makes them immune to damage. That bonus is kind of a waste for me. I'll probably stick with uplinks because I'd rather know what direction I am facing when I step out of thin air. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:00:00 - [36] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3793	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:02:00 - [37] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own 1st-I never said my opinions are more valuable.Thats just you putting words in my mouth. Im just sharing my opinion. 2nd-You might be a true logi.But if you cant see how this bonus helps in the role of being a TRUE logi, then you must not be very special. With all due respect.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 445	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:03:00 - [38] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine why, do people not shoot support logi's? They just assume that they don't get shot, which is why giving minm logis a bonus to reppers is stupid, they'll be shredded like tissue paper. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3793	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:04:00 - [39] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Rusty Shallows 839	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:04:00 - [40] - Quote calisk galern wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much? Let us not leave out, "murder assaults yesterday." It would be really keen if 1.8 or the next major game build would end this lopsided game-play. At least on the infantry side. Good point about caring. More than one person has given in to madness over the crazy things happening here. Going numb might be the greatest freedom possible. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:09:00 - [41] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3795	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:09:00 - [42] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME. I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1400	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:11:00 - [43] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 157	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:13:00 - [44] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Don't worry, be reppy. . . "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3795	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [45] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. How come you all KNOW its the worst class? 1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 271	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [46] - Quote I actually am really happy with the new cal logi bonus. Not only dose it let me fit equipment easier but my nanohive(R)s get a much needed supply rate and rep efficiency buff. if that means I need to play a bit more passively then so be it. IT still doesn't effect my 550+ shields, proto equipment, and proto weapon.(unlike a lot a cal logis I'm not afraid to sacrifice two lows for a CPU and PG upgrades.) When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [47] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. this is what i actually said and in context ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 567	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:19:00 - [48] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Sorry Checkmate but this true logi liked being able to survive better while chubby chasing than in Beta. I can live with the new bonuses so long as their isn't a decrease to our CPU/PG but I would really like to see Amarr get the rep tool bonus and Minmatar a bonus to either uplinks or REs. Amarr logi is the best one for being in the thick of things with a repper IMHO
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 157	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:19:00 - [49] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. You mean suffer in that it was a "Logi" suit in name only? More like one man army, instant shields, no equipment carrying, damage modded "Logi"? Hurr durr, I serpert my teem by shootin' all duh bed guyz. I feel ya. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1400	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:21:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. How come you all KNOW its the worst class? 1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet. I don't know if its the worst class. But its looking like its going to be slower than assaults, do less damage than assaults(this is fine), have less HP than assaults(debatable), and have less stamina. We should at least he able to run away from them if we know every head to head conflict will end up with us dead. Finding a yellow suit shouldn't be a free kill for other players. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 85	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:23:00 - [51] - Quote While I do appreciate CCP making an effort to redesign role bonuses to benefit direct actions on the battlefield, as opposed to passive tankiness. They need to take a serious look at the overall DPS that happens on the battlefield. At level 5 Proficiency there's enough damage being spat out that no amount of plates can save you. My rep tool has sat on a shelf collecting dust because no one has been alive long enough to repGÇªWith a potential assault rework to increase that even more and logic loosing essentially a free rep module (in case we actually make it)GÇª Yes, Logis are the force behind the fight. Yes Assaults are supposed to Assault. But Assault on Assault violence is just a meat grinder already. More power to the assaults=everyone dies. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 844	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:29:00 - [52] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. There shouldn't be a worst suit, only a suit that excels and wanes atdifferent tasks Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2648	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:30:00 - [53] - Quote I just can't wait for all this to drop so we can see what's what. But I have a feeling there are going to be some good players out there that will cause people to rush to forums to ask for a nerfing of the logi. Anticipation!! Can't wait!! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1612	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:30:00 - [54] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME.** I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 64	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:36:00 - [55] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Total agreement. Let the true logis heal, repair, provide uplinks, scan, place explosives and resupply like they are meant to.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 43	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:41:00 - [56] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Hey adam Caldari Loyalist
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1612	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:47:00 - [57] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME.** I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3799	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:56:00 - [58] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: [ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2651	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:57:00 - [59] - Quote LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1613	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:59:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: [ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi You see that's contradictory though, because he might be helping his team by getting kills, his logi role may be only for specific times. How do you determine when a logi is a help to his team and when he isn't? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

TechMechMeds Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 2232	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:02:00 - [61] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. I'm really looking forward to this :) Level 2 forum warrior. Swamp iz on dat welevant flex fam I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1400	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:03:00 - [62] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. No. If we can't get kills as well as be support, then I think ALL the other classes should lose their equipment slots(scouts can keep 1, but it can only fit cloaks). If we have to be relegated to equipment mules, nobody else should edge in on our jobs... Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1614	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:04:00 - [63] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. Presciely the problem. Why 6? Why can't a Combat Engineer who deployed Infantry Webifiers Small Turrets Defense drones etc, not garner kills? What if as a 1.8 Cal Logi you are a pack mule for ammo, what do you do during a firefight when your team is well supplied, hide in the corner? What if as a 1.8 Amarf Logi you have dispensed all your available uplinks? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
mollerz Minja Scouts 2021	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:09:00 - [64] - Quote I, too, worry for the logi. [=}=Snickety=> <==Snick={=] You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2656	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:10:00 - [65] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. No. If we can't get kills as well as be support, then I think ALL the other classes should lose their equipment slots(scouts can keep 1, but it can only fit cloaks). If we have to be relegated to equipment mules, nobody else should edge in on our jobs... I was thinking in terms of the community perception of what factors defines a slayer logi. The post itself is not of my own opinion. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3801	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:18:00 - [66] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: [ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi You see that's contradictory though, because he might be helping his team by getting kills, his logi role may be only for specific times. How do you determine when a logi is a help to his team and when he isn't? Logis havee xtra equipmenst slots. Logis help their team carrying/using the equipment they cant carry. BTW , i said 5-1 could be a slayer logi ...why? We are talking about the classification not about the SKILL of the player. If a logi is ''helping his team through killing'' then hes better off being an assault. The Logi suit is made for equipment abuse. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2657	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:20:00 - [67] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. Presciely the problem. Why 6? Why can't a Combat Engineer who deployed Infantry Webifiers Small Turrets Defense drones etc, not garner kills? What if as a 1.8 Cal Logi you are a pack mule for ammo, what do you do during a firefight when your team is well supplied, hide in the corner? What if as a 1.8 Amarf Logi you have dispensed all your available uplinks? I wholeheartedly agree. Being a logibro helped me realize my true potential in Dust 514. I can kill and hill. Drop a nanohive when needed. Place a scan. Rep a friendly. Once those primary objectives are completed or not active, its time to kill. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1401	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:27:00 - [68] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. No. If we can't get kills as well as be support, then I think ALL the other classes should lose their equipment slots(scouts can keep 1, but it can only fit cloaks). If we have to be relegated to equipment mules, nobody else should edge in on our jobs... I was thinking in terms of the community perception of what factors defines a slayer logi. The post itself is not of my own opinion. Oh. I don't think there should be a set number. So what if a support Logi gets 10 kills? The suit isn't even going to be a good slayer suit anymore, so if they get that many kills, they deserve them and shouldn't be considered an abuser for it. I know damn well I'm going to have games where I get 15...20...even 30 kills, am I a Slayer Logi just because I had a good game? No! I like to consider myself a Combat Logi, I stick with my squad, and provide fire when I have to, heck, I go for the kill. I'm not going to just sit there and twiddle my thumbs when my squad is in a firefight because "This is no job for a Logi, get your healy-tool out and wait for us to take some armor damage.". I have a light weapon slot for a reason. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Beck Weathers Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 328	Posted - 2014.01.20 02:40:00 - [69] - Quote A Logi bro sees or hears a friend in need of emidiate healing or ammo and puts the gun away to help him out, A slayer logi says Ill be right there after i chase down this this guy whos likely already going to die but I wana be the one who gets the kill.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 07:49:00 - [70] - Quote looks like we will be better off logibroing from a commando suit or assault suit. spam the area with the logi suit then switch to a commando or assault with a rep tool just to be able to compete and survive long enougth https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

CaveCav D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 195	Posted - 2014.01.20 08:15:00 - [71] - Quote Even without knowing the new stats for my suit I don't feel nerfed, I feel buffed! I've got that amazing 25% reduction on fitting cost for equipment, and I've got a shiny new bullet-spitting heavy-armored WP pool to keep in front of me that is the Gallente Heavy. I'm only kinda sad for losing the hacking bonus but whatever, repair tool FTW! Dedicated Logibro, Gunner, Counter-Sniper
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2894	Posted - 2014.01.20 08:25:00 - [72] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are You're worried that the logis will be logis??? No.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 17:42:00 - [73] - Quote i will just have to wait and see how bad it is, hopefully we get a respec, that way i can spec into 1 of my logi suits and leave the other 2 on the back burner until i work out if they are any good https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Dericha A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 6	Posted - 2014.01.20 18:20:00 - [74] - Quote As a logi supporting the front line, you need to be able to take a stray bullet and GTF out of the way. That's the worry, that we won't be able to survive front line combat. On the gun front, expect worse K/Ds (LOL, because they're spectacular already if you're not a slayer). My concern is being too squishy to support the front line, not having teammates that watch your butt (they're too busy with their K/D), or being pigeon-holed into a single equipment slot (Spam X, be that uplinks or scans). My hope is that everyone moves over to commandos, which will slow down the game and require more strategic play. That also allows the logi to have a better idea of where those stray bullets may be coming from. Cloak scouts are going to hunt us. be prepared.
LEHON Xeon Pradox XVI Proficiency V. 86	Posted - 2014.01.20 18:25:00 - [75] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Sorry Checkmate but this true logi liked being able to survive better while chubby chasing than in Beta. I can live with the new bonuses so long as their isn't a decrease to our CPU/PG but I would really like to see Amarr get the rep tool bonus and Minmatar a bonus to either uplinks or REs. Amarr logi is the best one for being in the thick of things with a repper IMHO I have to agree. I've been running logi suits for months, and I tried to do a balance of both being able to hold ground along with being a full squad support with hives and reps. Another role I tried to do was a fortification logi by using REs, scanners, and uplinks. I've never done just straight slayer logi. If there's no decrease to cpu/pg levels and slots, I will probably keep doing logistics as I like being able to help control battles through tactical advantage. Necrophillia: That Uncontrollable Urge To Crack Open A Cold One.
PEW JACKSON Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 188	Posted - 2014.01.20 18:27:00 - [76] - Quote Min Logi + Core focused/Six kin here I come!!!! I do think Logis can use a buff to HP. They're second in line for being bullet sponges, first being the fatty. Dead on the ground.... Think I made a wrong turn :/
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 174	Posted - 2014.01.20 19:32:00 - [77] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 812	Posted - 2014.01.20 20:45:00 - [78] - Quote Lv2spd2 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now. your right, losing a 1/4 of my ehp or giving up on arm repair is well worth it for a bonus to a single piece of equipment i may or may not use and is only of use if people actually need it which with all the ehp and damage buffs to everyone, situations to drop gear is going to be far less. also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3827	Posted - 2014.01.20 22:24:00 - [79] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Lv2spd2 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now. your right, losing a 1/4 of my ehp or giving up on arm repair is well worth it for a bonus to a single piece of equipment i may or may not use and is only of use if people actually need it which with all the ehp and damage buffs to everyone, situations to drop gear is going to be far less. also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point. With the 25% bonus to PG-CPU usage on equipment Logis will be able to not only equip better equipment and have increased effectiveness with them, But will have come CPU-PG to spare and equip better modules too. I've been noticing ADAM's constant QQ and i've come to imagine yo used logis as a better Assault, contrary of what you are trying to make us believe.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 175	Posted - 2014.01.20 23:44:00 - [80] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point. They did not in any way decrese the effectiveness of ANY equipment on any suit. Your equipment is in NO WAY nerfed from what it is now. You can use the EXACT same equipment you do now if you choose to. It will work exactly the same. As far as equipment goes you only gained a BONUS to using one type. In addition, unless you play a Gallente logi you gained a major bonus to equipment fitting. You lost the 5 rep per sec, but we all did. This can be partially made up by more effective use of rep hives, which will now be easier to fit. You say you are here to rep and resupply, so do it. It will work just ass well as it does now. Just resupply with the now easier to fit Alloteks, and drop it where you can stand on it while you rep away. even the K17/D will still rep you faster than the 5 rep per sec native reps we are losing. It will require a small readjustment of play style, but think of the extra triage points you can get for repping the other logis as you run past. We logis should get in the habit of doing this for each other when we can anyway.

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 813	Posted - 2014.01.21 00:03:00 - [81] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Lv2spd2 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now. your right, losing a 1/4 of my ehp or giving up on arm repair is well worth it for a bonus to a single piece of equipment i may or may not use and is only of use if people actually need it which with all the ehp and damage buffs to everyone, situations to drop gear is going to be far less. also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point. With the 25% bonus to PG-CPU usage on equipment Logis will be able to not only equip better equipment and have increased effectiveness with them, But will have come CPU-PG to spare and equip better modules too. I've been noticing ADAM's constant QQ and i've come to imagine yo used logis as a better Assault, contrary of what you are trying to make us believe.... anyone who knows me knows i do not assault logi. by my calculations on my current logi fits i will save at best 8pg.wit that 8pg i could replace a enhanced arm plate for a complex arm rep costing me 5 of that pg getting me my 5reps back but costing me about 150 ehp (or whatever the maxed out amount is). that leaves me with 3 pg, that will get me grenades or maybe even upgrade a single piece of equipment. when you look deeper into this you will see we actually get next to nothing from the bonus. the bonus barely gets us back the reps we lost and costs us ehp https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 44	Posted - 2014.01.21 01:45:00 - [82] - Quote Yea you saved me isk more times than I can count with your logi Caldari Loyalist


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