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i worry for the new logi - by JARREL THOMAS

Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:45:00 +0000

Yea you saved me isk more times than I can count with your logi

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:03:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Lv2spd2 wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now.

your right, losing a 1/4 of my ehp or giving up on arm repair is well worth it for a bonus to a single piece of equipment i may or may not use and is only of use if people actually need it which with all the ehp and damage buffs to everyone, situations to drop gear is going to be far less.

also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point.

With the 25% bonus to PG-CPU usage on equipment Logis will be able to not only equip better equipment and have increased effectiveness with them, But will have come CPU-PG to spare and equip better modules too.

I've been noticing ADAM's constant QQ and i've come to imagine yo used logis as a better Assault, contrary of what you are trying to make us believe....

anyone who knows me knows i do not assault logi.

by my calculations on my current logi fits i will save at best 8pg.wit that 8pg i could replace a enhanced arm plate for a complex arm rep costing me 5 of that pg getting me my 5reps back but costing me about 150 ehp (or whatever the maxed out amount is). that leaves me with 3 pg, that will get me grenades or maybe even upgrade a single piece of equipment.

when you look deeper into this you will see we actually get next to nothing from the bonus. the bonus barely gets us back the reps we lost and costs us ehp

i worry for the new logi - by Lv2spd2

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:44:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point.

They did not in any way decrese the effectiveness of ANY equipment on any suit. Your equipment is in NO WAY nerfed from what it is now. You can use the EXACT same equipment you do now if you choose to. It will work exactly the same. As far as equipment goes you only gained a BONUS to using one type. In addition, unless you play a Gallente logi you gained a major bonus to equipment fitting.

You lost the 5 rep per sec, but we all did. This can be partially made up by more effective use of rep hives, which will now be easier to fit. You say you are here to rep and resupply, so do it. It will work just ass well as it does now.

Just resupply with the now easier to fit Alloteks, and drop it where you can stand on it while you rep away. even the K17/D will still rep you faster than the 5 rep per sec native reps we are losing. It will require a small readjustment of play style, but think of the extra triage points you can get for repping the other logis as you run past. We logis should get in the habit of doing this for each other when we can anyway.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 22:24:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Lv2spd2 wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:45:00 +0000

Lv2spd2 wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by Lv2spd2

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:32:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by PEW JACKSON

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:27:00 +0000

Min Logi + Core focused/Six kin here I come!!!!

I do think Logis can use a buff to HP. They're second in line for being bullet sponges, first being the fatty.

i worry for the new logi - by LEHON Xeon

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:25:00 +0000

Zahle Undt wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

Sorry Checkmate but this true logi liked being able to survive better while chubby chasing than in Beta. I can live with the new bonuses so long as their isn't a decrease to our CPU/PG but I would really like to see Amarr get the rep tool bonus and Minmatar a bonus to either uplinks or REs. Amarr logi is the best one for being in the thick of things with a repper IMHO

I have to agree. I've been running logi suits for months, and I tried to do a balance of both being able to hold ground along with being a full squad support with hives and reps. Another role I tried to do was a fortification logi by using REs, scanners, and uplinks. I've never done just straight slayer logi. If there's no decrease to cpu/pg levels and slots, I will probably keep doing logistics as I like being able to help control battles through tactical advantage.

i worry for the new logi - by Dericha

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 18:20:00 +0000

As a logi supporting the front line, you need to be able to take a stray bullet and GTF out of the way. That's the worry, that we won't be able to survive front line combat. On the gun front, expect worse K/Ds (LOL, because they're spectacular already if you're not a slayer). My concern is being too squishy to support the front line, not having teammates that watch your butt (they're too busy with their K/D), or being pigeon-holed into a single equipment slot (Spam X, be that uplinks or scans).

My hope is that everyone moves over to commandos, which will slow down the game and require more strategic play. That also allows the logi to have a better idea of where those stray bullets may be coming from.

Cloak scouts are going to hunt us. be prepared.

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:42:00 +0000

i will just have to wait and see how bad it is, hopefully we get a respec, that way i can spec into 1 of my logi suits and leave the other 2 on the back burner until i work out if they are any good

i worry for the new logi - by Chunky Munkey

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:25:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

You're worried that the logis will be logis???

i worry for the new logi - by CaveCav

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 08:15:00 +0000

Even without knowing the new stats for my suit I don't feel nerfed, I feel buffed!
I've got that amazing 25% reduction on fitting cost for equipment, and I've got a shiny new bullet-spitting heavy-armored WP pool to keep in front of me that is the Gallente Heavy.
I'm only kinda sad for losing the hacking bonus but whatever, repair tool FTW!

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 07:49:00 +0000

looks like we will be better off logibroing from a commando suit or assault suit.

spam the area with the logi suit then switch to a commando or assault with a rep tool just to be able to compete and survive long enougth

i worry for the new logi - by Beck Weathers

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:40:00 +0000

A Logi bro sees or hears a friend in need of emidiate healing or ammo and puts the gun away to help him out, A slayer logi says Ill be right there after i chase down this this guy whos likely already going to die but I wana be the one who gets the kill.

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:27:00 +0000

Michael Arck wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

No. If we can't get kills as well as be support, then I think ALL the other classes should lose their equipment slots(scouts can keep 1, but it can only fit cloaks). If we have to be relegated to equipment mules, nobody else should edge in on our jobs...

I was thinking in terms of the community perception of what factors defines a slayer logi. The post itself is not of my own opinion.

Oh.
I don't think there should be a set number.

So what if a support Logi gets 10 kills? The suit isn't even going to be a good slayer suit anymore, so if they get that many kills, they deserve them and shouldn't be considered an abuser for it.

I know damn well I'm going to have games where I get 15...20...even 30 kills, am I a Slayer Logi just because I had a good game? No! I like to consider myself a Combat Logi, I stick with my squad, and provide fire when I have to, heck, I go for the kill. I'm not going to just sit there and twiddle my thumbs when my squad is in a firefight because "This is no job for a Logi, get your healy-tool out and wait for us to take some armor damage.". I have a light weapon slot for a reason.

i worry for the new logi - by Michael Arck

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:20:00 +0000

Monkey MAC wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

Presciely the problem.
Why 6? Why can't a Combat Engineer who deployed
Infantry Webifiers
Small Turrets
Defense drones etc, not garner kills?

What if as a 1.8 Cal Logi you are a pack mule for ammo, what do you do during a firefight when your team is well supplied, hide in the corner?
What if as a 1.8 Amarf Logi you have dispensed all your available uplinks?

I wholeheartedly agree. Being a logibro helped me realize my true potential in Dust 514. I can kill and hill. Drop a nanohive when needed. Place a scan. Rep a friendly.

Once those primary objectives are completed or not active, its time to kill.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:18:00 +0000

Monkey MAC wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

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What is the role of a Logi exactly?
How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi?

What about logi units in the future who are
Combat Engineers
Communications Officers
Field Mechanic

Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team.

You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi

Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi

You see that's contradictory though, because he might be helping his team by getting kills, his logi role may be only for specific times. How do you determine when a logi is a help to his team and when he isn't?

Logis havee xtra equipmenst slots.
Logis help their team carrying/using the equipment they cant carry.

BTW , i said 5-1 could be a slayer logi ...why? We are talking about the classification not about the SKILL of the player.
If a logi is ''helping his team through killing'' then hes better off being an assault.
The Logi suit is made for equipment abuse.

i worry for the new logi - by Michael Arck

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:10:00 +0000

Fizzer94 wrote:

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

I was thinking in terms of the community perception of what factors defines a slayer logi. The post itself is not of my own opinion.

i worry for the new logi - by mollerz

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:09:00 +0000

I, too, worry for the logi.

[=}=Snickety=> <==Snick={=]

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:04:00 +0000

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:03:00 +0000

Michael Arck wrote:

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

i worry for the new logi - by TechMechMeds

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 02:02:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

I'm really looking forward to this :)

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:59:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

i worry for the new logi - by Michael Arck

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:57:00 +0000

LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:56:00 +0000

Monkey MAC wrote:

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:47:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along

MAKE ME.

I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis.

What is the role of a Logi exactly?
How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi?

What about logi units in the future who are
Combat Engineers
Communications Officers
Field Mechanic

i worry for the new logi - by JARREL THOMAS

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:41:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Hey adam

i worry for the new logi - by ANON Cerberus

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:36:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

Total agreement. Let the true logis heal, repair, provide uplinks, scan, place explosives and resupply like they are meant to.

i worry for the new logi - by Michael Arck

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:30:00 +0000

I just can't wait for all this to drop so we can see what's what. But I have a feeling there are going to be some good players out there that will cause people to rush to forums to ask for a nerfing of the logi.

Anticipation!! Can't wait!!

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:30:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along

MAKE ME.

I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis.

i worry for the new logi - by Mossellia Delt

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:29:00 +0000

Fizzer94 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong.

There shouldn't be a worst suit, only a suit that excels and wanes atdifferent tasks

i worry for the new logi - by Denn Maell

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:23:00 +0000

While I do appreciate CCP making an effort to redesign role bonuses to benefit direct actions on the battlefield, as opposed to passive tankiness. They need to take a serious look at the overall DPS that happens on the battlefield. At level 5 Proficiency there's enough damage being spat out that no amount of plates can save you. My rep tool has sat on a shelf collecting dust because no one has been alive long enough to repGWith a potential assault rework to increase that even more and logic loosing essentially a free rep module (in case we actually make it)G

Yes, Logis are the force behind the fight. Yes Assaults are supposed to Assault. But Assault on Assault violence is just a meat grinder already. More power to the assaults=everyone dies.

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:21:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Fizzer94 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

How come you all KNOW its the worst class?

1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet.

I don't know if its the worst class. But its looking like its going to be slower than assaults, do less damage than assaults(this is fine), have less HP than assaults(debatable), and have less stamina. We should at least he able to run away from them if we know every head to head conflict will end up with us dead. Finding a yellow suit shouldn't be a free kill for other players.

i worry for the new logi - by Zahle Undt

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:19:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

i worry for the new logi - by Logi Stician

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:19:00 +0000

Fizzer94 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

You mean suffer in that it was a "Logi" suit in name only? More like one man army, instant shields, no equipment carrying, damage modded "Logi"? Hurr durr, I serpert my teem by shootin' all duh bed guyz. I feel ya.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:14:00 +0000

Fizzer94 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

How come you all KNOW its the worst class?

1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet.

i worry for the new logi - by Yoma Carrim

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:14:00 +0000

I actually am really happy with the new cal logi bonus. Not only dose it let me fit equipment easier but my nanohive(R)s get a much needed supply rate and rep efficiency buff.

if that means I need to play a bit more passively then so be it. IT still doesn't effect my 550+ shields, proto equipment, and proto weapon.(unlike a lot a cal logis I'm not afraid to sacrifice two lows for a CPU and PG upgrades.)

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:14:00 +0000

Fizzer94 wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

this is what i actually said and in context

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

i worry for the new logi - by Logi Stician

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:13:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Don't worry, be reppy. . .

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:11:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:09:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:09:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along

MAKE ME.

I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:04:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits

Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....

i worry for the new logi - by Rusty Shallows

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:04:00 +0000

calisk galern wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much?

Let us not leave out, "murder assaults yesterday." It would be really keen if 1.8 or the next major game build would end this lopsided game-play. At least on the infantry side.

Good point about caring. More than one person has given in to madness over the crazy things happening here. Going numb might be the greatest freedom possible.

i worry for the new logi - by Henchmen21

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:03:00 +0000

calisk galern wrote:

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

calisk galern wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.

If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine

why, do people not shoot support logi's?

They just assume that they don't get shot, which is why giving minm logis a bonus to reppers is stupid, they'll be shredded like tissue paper.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:02:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis.

i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own

1st-I never said my opinions are more valuable.Thats just you putting words in my mouth. Im just sharing my opinion.

2nd-You might be a true logi.But if you cant see how this bonus helps in the role of being a TRUE logi, then you must not be very special.

With all due respect....

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:00:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis.

i worry for the new logi - by Henchmen21

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:54:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

Cept for the fact I hate using the rep tool, because it clunky and people think it makes them immune to damage. That bonus is kind of a waste for me. I'll probably stick with uplinks because I'd rather know what direction I am facing when I step out of thin air.

i worry for the new logi - by Michael Arck

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:51:00 +0000

A logi is very valuable on the battlefield. He won't be useless cause hell, who's going to rep the big guys?

And who's going to rep some random blueberry who just got revived by assault player who carries needles just for 60 WPs?

Folks still going to be mad when the logi still claims the top of the leaderboard with a 3/2 KD and 2600 WP gain lol

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:51:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear

Both opinions actually matter here since we BOTH play the same game. Not being a true logibro does not mean i can not speak my mind on the matter. The mere thought of it makes me think a little less of you.

So you know, i did not ''ABUSE'' the logi suit into nerf. I use a Profile dampened murder logi with dual SMG's, Nanos, Injector and A.Scanner. This, because scouts have lots of disadvantages and i was not surviving in open maps.
I DOUBT they are nerfing logis because of me.

I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis.
If I was a true logi,i would take 5% CPU-PG reduction on EQ per level over 1HP/sec per level bonus anyday.

i worry for the new logi - by Galvan Nized

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:50:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

Because we don't already spam equipment? Nothing is going to change, except maybe logis won't be the best suit in the game bar none.

When did logis suffer while everyone benefited? I must of missed that point in Dust.

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:46:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then.

The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)...

Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS.
Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave.
Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable.
I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish...

It will be nice with all the abusers (such as yourself) in the suits they belong in. I will finally be able to wear yellow as a badge of honor!

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:45:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by Fizzer94

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:44:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

I appreciate 1 of the 2 bonuses because it would help me be better with equipment, the other one won't be helpful at all because I don't use uplinks. What does that make me? Am I a true Logi, or a murder Logi?

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:39:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by Skihids

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:38:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

all it will take on domi is 1 amarr logi to get into the prime position and "bam" masses of uplinks, first guy to spawn in is a cal logi spamming masses of triage hives, the next is a cal logi dropping off masses of ammo hives, the next is a gal logi perma scanning meaning nothing can get in, then a few mini logis arive.

now we have a heavily fortified position no one can break

I beg to differ. I do all of that with the current ADV Minmitar Logi suit and it's no guarantee that my blues will hold the Domination objective. As often as not they will get rolled if the other team is decent. Sometimes it happens very quickly.

A few small racial bonuses isn't going to alter what you see that much. Those who are willing to put the time into support play aren't going to change and those who prefer to shoot face aren't about to soil their hands with support.

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:35:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Monkey MAC wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea.

All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam.
.

WTH are you talking about?
This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks.

The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi.

but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit

i worry for the new logi - by calisk galern

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:33:00 +0000

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

calisk galern wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.

If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine

why, do people not shoot support logi's?

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:31:00 +0000

Monkey MAC wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea.

All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam.
.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:30:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

The only true thing is OVERKILL tactics is what works in dust.
So yeah,spam will always be present.

BTW ,CCP should give at least a dropsuit command respec. ...

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:30:00 +0000

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:26:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea.

All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam.
Pairs of heavies bowling down corridors with a logi in tow, there will be even less tactics . . . . .again.

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:24:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

i worry for the new logi - by Yoma Carrim

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:23:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

*shudder* ScP wielding zerglings everywhere.

*Glances at Cal logi bonus. tosses down triage nanohive* bunker down boys we're going to be hear a while.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:19:00 +0000

OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)

I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....

OR BEING A SCOUT vs Gallente logis and their scanners....

OR Facing a Heavy with 2 MIN Logis repping him.... D:

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:17:00 +0000

N1ck Comeau wrote:

Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault.

But who are you going to Assault against? They are all to busy assaulting.

i worry for the new logi - by N1ck Comeau

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:14:00 +0000

Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault.

i worry for the new logi - by Jacques Cayton II

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:13:00 +0000

calisk galern wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.

If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:11:00 +0000

Bones McGavins wrote:

Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please.

AMARR Logis Running 3 different Spawn uplinks that spawn friendlies in 1-2 seconds?

LOL

OPNESS awaits....

The day 1.8 hits, Amarr become the Swarm.........

i worry for the new logi - by Bones McGavins

Mon, 20 Jan 2014 00:08:00 +0000

Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please.

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:56:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting.

sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a***. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming

You can use a Cloak, an active scanner,nanohives and Remote explosives all in a single suit if you want to kill....

If you think thats not enough to deal with pretty much ANYTHING .....Murderlogis have gotten soft for playing EZ mode so long...lol

People forget , equipment = POWER in this game...

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:53:00 +0000

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:53:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

Depends on what you class as a true logi, I meam do you expect a "TRUE MINMATAR LOGI" to be sat behind a pair of heavies to get the most out of that skill?

The thing is, so long as a logistics class has weaponry its going to kill people.
Short of removing that weapon, a squad of logistics suits will ALWAYS beat a squad of assaults.

Because choice (something this game is built around) is hardwired directly into the logistics class.

i worry for the new logi - by Monkey MAC

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:48:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

Personally I think, they need to change racial bonuses, they need assault suits to focus purely on EHP (mini excluded).
Meanwhile Logi needs rep based skills, with minnie being best.

Assault
A: +3% Armour Plates +3% Shield Extender
M: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Recharger/Energizer

Logi
A: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Regulator
C: +5% Shield Regulator
G: +5% Armour Repper
M + 5% Armour Repper +5% Shield Recharge/Energizer

If its done like that then, assaults are still best for assaulting, the EHP bonus paired with the ROF bonus make it perfect for pushes from cover to cover, meamwhile the rep based logi units are still capable of being on the frontline, but focus on lots of little pushes over that of the assault brethren.

Theirin Logi units can do the jobs they do best, better.

i worry for the new logi - by calisk galern

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:48:00 +0000

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much?

i worry for the new logi - by KING CHECKMATE

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:46:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise

MURDER logis can go F themselves.

Logis are fine.

i worry for the new logi - by Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:45:00 +0000

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all.
Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can.

He is complaining due to them no longer being able to slay better than any other class in the game

i worry for the new logi - by CRYPT3C W0LF

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:45:00 +0000

fall of the logis

i worry for the new logi - by richiesutie 2

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:42:00 +0000

Yes Logis need a buff!!!

Clue: I'm kidding

Besides you haven't even seen the new stats yet only the skills.

i worry for the new logi - by Arkena Wyrnspire

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:42:00 +0000

I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all.
Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can.

i worry for the new logi - by calisk galern

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:41:00 +0000

ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:

well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.

i worry for the new logi - by ADAM-OF-EVE

Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:40:00 +0000