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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:46:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are
TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise
MURDER logis can go F themselves.
Logis are fine.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3783
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Posted - 2014.01.19 23:56:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting.
sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a***. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming
You can use a Cloak, an active scanner,nanohives and Remote explosives all in a single suit if you want to kill....
If you think thats not enough to deal with pretty much ANYTHING .....Murderlogis have gotten soft for playing EZ mode so long...lol
People forget , equipment = POWER in this game...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3785
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:11:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please.
AMARR Logis Running 3 different Spawn uplinks that spawn friendlies in 1-2 seconds?
LOL
OPNESS awaits....
The day 1.8 hits, Amarr become the Swarm.........
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3788
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:19:00 -
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OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)
I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....
OR BEING A SCOUT vs Gallente logis and their scanners....
OR Facing a Heavy with 2 MIN Logis repping him.... D:
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3789
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:30:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)
I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....
thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits
The only true thing is OVERKILL tactics is what works in dust. So yeah,spam will always be present.
BTW ,CCP should give at least a dropsuit command respec. ...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3789
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:31:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL)
I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam....
Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. .
WTH are you talking about? This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks.
The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3789
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:39:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:
but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit
GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then.
The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)...
Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish...
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3790
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Posted - 2014.01.20 00:51:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear
Both opinions actually matter here since we BOTH play the same game. Not being a true logibro does not mean i can not speak my mind on the matter. The mere thought of it makes me think a little less of you.
So you know, i did not ''ABUSE'' the logi suit into nerf. I use a Profile dampened murder logi with dual SMG's, Nanos, Injector and A.Scanner. This, because scouts have lots of disadvantages and i was not surviving in open maps. I DOUBT they are nerfing logis because of me.
I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. If I was a true logi,i would take 5% CPU-PG reduction on EQ per level over 1HP/sec per level bonus anyday.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3793
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:02:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:
I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis.
i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own
1st-I never said my opinions are more valuable.Thats just you putting words in my mouth. Im just sharing my opinion.
2nd-You might be a true logi.But if you cant see how this bonus helps in the role of being a TRUE logi, then you must not be very special.
With all due respect....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3793
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:04:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits
Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3795
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:09:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along
MAKE ME.
I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3795
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong.
How come you all KNOW its the worst class?
1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3799
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Posted - 2014.01.20 01:56:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:[ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi?
What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic
Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team.
You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi
Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3801
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Posted - 2014.01.20 02:18:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:[ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi?
What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic
Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi You see that's contradictory though, because he might be helping his team by getting kills, his logi role may be only for specific times. How do you determine when a logi is a help to his team and when he isn't?
Logis havee xtra equipmenst slots. Logis help their team carrying/using the equipment they cant carry.
BTW , i said 5-1 could be a slayer logi ...why? We are talking about the classification not about the SKILL of the player. If a logi is ''helping his team through killing'' then hes better off being an assault. The Logi suit is made for equipment abuse.
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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KING CHECKMATE
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
3827
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Posted - 2014.01.20 22:24:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lv2spd2 wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit
Why would it be? Your repairing, resurrecting, resupplying is not being nerfed, its just that some others are getting a buff. You can still use equipment just as well as you can now. You'll just be BETTER at using one type of equipment than you are now. your right, losing a 1/4 of my ehp or giving up on arm repair is well worth it for a bonus to a single piece of equipment i may or may not use and is only of use if people actually need it which with all the ehp and damage buffs to everyone, situations to drop gear is going to be far less. also they put uplinks on the slowest logi suit and repair tool on weakest? what sort of choice is that. i know its a racial thing but there has got to be better options so as to make the most of the bonuses otherwise what's the point.
With the 25% bonus to PG-CPU usage on equipment Logis will be able to not only equip better equipment and have increased effectiveness with them, But will have come CPU-PG to spare and equip better modules too.
I've been noticing ADAM's constant QQ and i've come to imagine yo used logis as a better Assault, contrary of what you are trying to make us believe....
GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
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