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Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1399	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:46:00 - [31] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... It will be nice with all the abusers (such as yourself) in the suits they belong in. I will finally be able to wear yellow as a badge of honor! Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 534	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:50:00 - [32] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Because we don't already spam equipment? Nothing is going to change, except maybe logis won't be the best suit in the game bar none. When did logis suffer while everyone benefited? I must of missed that point in Dust.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2644	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:51:00 - [33] - Quote A logi is very valuable on the battlefield. He won't be useless cause hell, who's going to rep the big guys? And who's going to rep some random blueberry who just got revived by assault player who carries needles just for 60 WPs? Folks still going to be mad when the logi still claims the top of the leaderboard with a 3/2 KD and 2600 WP gain lol Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3790	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:51:00 - [34] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear Both opinions actually matter here since we BOTH play the same game. Not being a true logibro does not mean i can not speak my mind on the matter. The mere thought of it makes me think a little less of you. So you know, i did not ''ABUSE'' the logi suit into nerf. I use a Profile dampened murder logi with dual SMG's, Nanos, Injector and A.Scanner. This, because scouts have lots of disadvantages and i was not surviving in open maps. I DOUBT they are nerfing logis because of me. I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. If I was a true logi,i would take 5% CPU-PG reduction on EQ per level over 1HP/sec per level bonus anyday. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 445	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:54:00 - [35] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Cept for the fact I hate using the rep tool, because it clunky and people think it makes them immune to damage. That bonus is kind of a waste for me. I'll probably stick with uplinks because I'd rather know what direction I am facing when I step out of thin air. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:00:00 - [36] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3793	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:02:00 - [37] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: I still cant see whats your complain. Bonuses for logis are great for True logis. i'm a true logi and i say they are not great. that is my opinion on my role (oh look i can bold aswel) not the opinion of someone who doesn't do that role. what makes you think your views are more valid than my own 1st-I never said my opinions are more valuable.Thats just you putting words in my mouth. Im just sharing my opinion. 2nd-You might be a true logi.But if you cant see how this bonus helps in the role of being a TRUE logi, then you must not be very special. With all due respect.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 445	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:03:00 - [38] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine why, do people not shoot support logi's? They just assume that they don't get shot, which is why giving minm logis a bonus to reppers is stupid, they'll be shredded like tissue paper. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3793	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:04:00 - [39] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Rusty Shallows 839	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:04:00 - [40] - Quote calisk galern wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much? Let us not leave out, "murder assaults yesterday." It would be really keen if 1.8 or the next major game build would end this lopsided game-play. At least on the infantry side. Good point about caring. More than one person has given in to madness over the crazy things happening here. Going numb might be the greatest freedom possible. MCC Lounge Lizard Forums > Game Fix the game CCP

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:09:00 - [41] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a**, you have had your say now move along https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3795	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:09:00 - [42] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME. I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1400	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:11:00 - [43] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 157	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:13:00 - [44] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Don't worry, be reppy. . . "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3795	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [45] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. How come you all KNOW its the worst class? 1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 271	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [46] - Quote I actually am really happy with the new cal logi bonus. Not only dose it let me fit equipment easier but my nanohive(R)s get a much needed supply rate and rep efficiency buff. if that means I need to play a bit more passively then so be it. IT still doesn't effect my 550+ shields, proto equipment, and proto weapon.(unlike a lot a cal logis I'm not afraid to sacrifice two lows for a CPU and PG upgrades.) When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 809	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:14:00 - [47] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. this is what i actually said and in context ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 567	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:19:00 - [48] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Sorry Checkmate but this true logi liked being able to survive better while chubby chasing than in Beta. I can live with the new bonuses so long as their isn't a decrease to our CPU/PG but I would really like to see Amarr get the rep tool bonus and Minmatar a bonus to either uplinks or REs. Amarr logi is the best one for being in the thick of things with a repper IMHO
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 157	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:19:00 - [49] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. You mean suffer in that it was a "Logi" suit in name only? More like one man army, instant shields, no equipment carrying, damage modded "Logi"? Hurr durr, I serpert my teem by shootin' all duh bed guyz. I feel ya. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1400	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:21:00 - [50] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. How come you all KNOW its the worst class? 1.8 Hasnt even arrived yet. I don't know if its the worst class. But its looking like its going to be slower than assaults, do less damage than assaults(this is fine), have less HP than assaults(debatable), and have less stamina. We should at least he able to run away from them if we know every head to head conflict will end up with us dead. Finding a yellow suit shouldn't be a free kill for other players. Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire

Denn Maell PIanet Express Canis Eliminatus Operatives 85	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:23:00 - [51] - Quote While I do appreciate CCP making an effort to redesign role bonuses to benefit direct actions on the battlefield, as opposed to passive tankiness. They need to take a serious look at the overall DPS that happens on the battlefield. At level 5 Proficiency there's enough damage being spat out that no amount of plates can save you. My rep tool has sat on a shelf collecting dust because no one has been alive long enough to repGÇªWith a potential assault rework to increase that even more and logic loosing essentially a free rep module (in case we actually make it)GÇª Yes, Logis are the force behind the fight. Yes Assaults are supposed to Assault. But Assault on Assault violence is just a meat grinder already. More power to the assaults=everyone dies. The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field: One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 844	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:29:00 - [52] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... OK. What he said just wasn't true at all because the only Logi to ever suffer before was the Cal Logi. However, two wrongs don't make a right. Just because the Logi was the best suit doesn't mean it needs to be the worst suit to balance the universe... That would be intentional imbalance, and that's wrong. There shouldn't be a worst suit, only a suit that excels and wanes atdifferent tasks Channel - Vote for Delt Delt for CPM1
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2648	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:30:00 - [53] - Quote I just can't wait for all this to drop so we can see what's what. But I have a feeling there are going to be some good players out there that will cause people to rush to forums to ask for a nerfing of the logi. Anticipation!! Can't wait!! Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1612	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:30:00 - [54] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME.** I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 64	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:36:00 - [55] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Total agreement. Let the true logis heal, repair, provide uplinks, scan, place explosives and resupply like they are meant to.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 43	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:41:00 - [56] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Hey adam Caldari Loyalist
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1612	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:47:00 - [57] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits Funny you say this considering Logi has been the MOST POWERFUL SUIT since uprising.... you missed out the rest of the post which put this into context, stop being an a, you have had your say now move along MAKE ME.** I'll stay because i DONT want to see More Logis that are not doing their job.There by i support the changes made by CCP and oppose a pre 1.8 buff to logis. What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3799	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:56:00 - [58] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: [ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 2651	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:57:00 - [59] - Quote LOL I would think anything more than 6 kills means slayer logi. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1613	Posted - 2014.01.20 01:59:00 - [60] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: [ What is the role of a Logi exactly? How many kills can a logistics get without being designated a slayer logi? What about logi units in the future who are Combat Engineers Communications Officers Field Mechanic Its not the kills. A true logi can get any amount of kills,what defines a true logi is the amount of Help provided to his team. You can get 5-1 kills and 600 WP and be a Slayer logi Or Get 20+ kills and 2500WP and be a true logi You see that's contradictory though, because he might be helping his team by getting kills, his logi role may be only for specific times. How do you determine when a logi is a help to his team and when he isn't? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1



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