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ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:40:00 - [1] - Quote with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:41:00 - [2] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though.
richiesutie 2 The Rainbow Effect 657	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:42:00 - [3] - Quote Yes Logis need a buff!!! Clue: I'm kidding Besides you haven't even seen the new stats yet only the skills. compilation of Patch/build notes Check it out! :)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 8088	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:42:00 - [4] - Quote I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all. Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can. Level 8 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 81	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:45:00 - [5] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I can't foresee the logi becoming useless at all. Nobody else can rep, drop uplinks, scan, triage, or resupply like they can. He is complaining due to them no longer being able to slay better than any other class in the game Yes, I did kill Archduke Ferdinand. I used my nova knives. https://dust514.com/recruit/k3vMnb/
CRYPT3C W0LF Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 227	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:45:00 - [6] - Quote fall of the logis Youtube Channel =^-^=
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3780	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:46:00 - [7] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:48:00 - [8] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are Personally I think, they need to change racial bonuses, they need assault suits to focus purely on EHP (mini excluded). Meanwhile Logi needs rep based skills, with minnie being best. Assault A: +3% Armour Plates +3% Shield Extender M: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Recharger/Energizer Logi A: +3% Armour Repper +3% Shield Regulator C: +5% Shield Regulator G: +5% Armour Repper M + 5% Armour Repper +5% Shield Recharge/Energizer If its done like that then, assaults are still best for assaulting, the EHP bonus paired with the ROF bonus make it perfect for pushes from cover to cover, meamwhile the rep based logi units are still capable of being on the frontline, but focus on lots of little pushes over that of the assault brethren. Theirin Logi units can do the jobs they do best, better. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:48:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. meh murder logi today, murder assaults tomorrow, why do you guys care so much?
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:53:00 - [10] - Quote when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting. sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a***. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:53:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. Depends on what you class as a true logi, I meam do you expect a "TRUE MINMATAR LOGI" to be sat behind a pair of heavies to get the most out of that skill? The thing is, so long as a logistics class has weaponry its going to kill people. Short of removing that weapon, a squad of logistics suits will ALWAYS beat a squad of assaults. Because choice (something this game is built around) is hardwired directly into the logistics class. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3783	Posted - 2014.01.19 23:56:00 - [12] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: when logis die off dont come on the forums moaning, a true logi will see how weak we are going to be compared to the massive buff to damage and tank every other class is getting. sure the logi bonuses are great but we have to survive to actually use it all. anyone saying there is not going to be a problem here is talking out their a*. i have to stack 1k ehp just to survive and thats with 3 adv gear and a proto repair and standard weapon, no grenades. and what do we actually get from the new logi bonuses, a massive increase in suit costs. the other only works on 1 of out 3-4 equipment which has only a use for spamming You can use a Cloak, an active scanner,nanohives and Remote explosives all in a single suit if you want to kill.... If you think thats not enough to deal with pretty much ANYTHING .....Murderlogis have gotten soft for playing EZ mode so long...lol People forget , equipment = POWER in this game... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 423	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:08:00 - [13] - Quote Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3785	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:11:00 - [14] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Yep. Gal logi will be huge for any squad. The extended scan duration and more importantly percision is so huge. Also min logi repping at 200+ armor per sec? Yes please. AMARR Logis Running 3 different Spawn uplinks that spawn friendlies in 1-2 seconds? LOL OPNESS awaits.... The day 1.8 hits, Amarr become the Swarm......... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Jacques Cayton II Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention 557	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:13:00 - [15] - Quote calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1833	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:14:00 - [16] - Quote Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault. Minmatar Assault. Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:17:00 - [17] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Logis will actually have to do there job now, Assaults will be able to assault. But who are you going to Assault against? They are all to busy assaulting. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3788	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:19:00 - [18] - Quote OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... OR BEING A SCOUT vs Gallente logis and their scanners.... OR Facing a Heavy with 2 MIN Logis repping him.... D: GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Yoma Carrim Situation Normal all fraked up 271	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:23:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... shudder ScP wielding zerglings everywhere. Glances at Cal logi bonus. tosses down triage nanohive bunker down boys we're going to be hear a while. When you turn a corner and find the entire enemy team.Oh Heck Logi, Tanker, Heavy
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:24:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f*** this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find

Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1609	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:26:00 - [21] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. Pairs of heavies bowling down corridors with a logi in tow, there will be even less tactics . . . . .again. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:30:00 - [22] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... thats what logis have now become due to the buffs, spam suits. is that the game we really want or even the role we want logis to become, forget the odd assault logi only out for himself, the new spamlogi is going to f* this game up. you think the little uplink spam we have now is bad, wait till we get these new suits, every assault logi if stuck with their logi suits(if we dont get a respec) is going to turn it into a spam suit and this in turn will get logis nerfed again. yet again the logibro will suffer while everyone else benefits The only true thing is OVERKILL tactics is what works in dust. So yeah,spam will always be present. BTW ,CCP should give at least a dropsuit command respec. ... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.**
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:30:00 - [23] - Quote all it will take on domi is 1 amarr logi to get into the prime position and "bam" masses of uplinks, first guy to spawn in is a cal logi spamming masses of triage hives, the next is a cal logi dropping off masses of ammo hives, the next is a gal logi perma scanning meaning nothing can get in, then a few mini logis arive. now we have a heavily fortified position no one can break https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:31:00 - [24] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. . WTH are you talking about? This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks. The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi. GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 1637	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:33:00 - [25] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: calisk galern wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are well if other suits are living longer gives them more chance to rep i guess, I'm not all that hyped about being a glass healer though. If you play the logi not the slayer logi you'll be fine why, do people not shoot support logi's?
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:35:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: OP worries about logis not being valuable anymore. (LOL) I worry about facing an Amarr Proto Logi with Drop Uplink Spam.... Exactly why the suggested skills are a bad idea. All you will see is uplink, hive, scanner spam. . WTH are you talking about? This is exactly what we have NOW you just forgot the tanks. The only difference will be you can be a Very good killer with assault/scouts/Heavies/Commandos or be a FORCE multiplier as a logi. but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2727	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:38:00 - [27] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: all it will take on domi is 1 amarr logi to get into the prime position and "bam" masses of uplinks, first guy to spawn in is a cal logi spamming masses of triage hives, the next is a cal logi dropping off masses of ammo hives, the next is a gal logi perma scanning meaning nothing can get in, then a few mini logis arive. now we have a heavily fortified position no one can break I beg to differ. I do all of that with the current ADV Minmitar Logi suit and it's no guarantee that my blues will hold the Domination objective. As often as not they will get rolled if the other team is decent. Sometimes it happens very quickly. A few small racial bonuses isn't going to alter what you see that much. Those who are willing to put the time into support play aren't going to change and those who prefer to shoot face aren't about to soil their hands with support.
KING CHECKMATE Ametat Security Amarr Empire 3789	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:39:00 - [28] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... GIVE ME A RESPEC CCP.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1399	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:44:00 - [29] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: with all the survivability and damage buffs every class seems to be getting i feel the new logi buffs are going to render the logi useless. i cant see any use for logis aside from an initial spam of the game as the stats promote this by being 1 sided as they are TRUE LOGIS appreciate new logi bonuses since they REALLY help equipment wise MURDER logis can go F themselves. Logis are fine. I appreciate 1 of the 2 bonuses because it would help me be better with equipment, the other one won't be helpful at all because I don't use uplinks. What does that make me? Am I a true Logi, or a murder Logi? Yours Truly, Reginald Fizzer94 Delafontaine III, Esquire
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 807	Posted - 2014.01.20 00:45:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: but im a logibro, im here to repair and supply people. i dont want to be forced into spamming just to compete because thats the only effective way to use my suit GEt or either Min Logi or Cal logi then. The only ones actually going to spam are the Amarr logis. , Probably designed to drop uplink EVERY TIME they respawn and then use their 2 weapons as an Assault unit. (say 2 Uplinks and 1 nanohive in their 3 EQ slots)... Im going to be honest, i do think the Logis will be fine, SPECIALLY the TRUE LOGI BROS. Dont worry, with the new bonuses all the filth (me included) that abused Logi suits will leave. Logis will be scarce...AND far more valuable. I know if i see a Logi after 1.8 im COVERING his ass (im a scout so from the shadows XD)....Probably as important has having a letter in Skirmish... you, a non logibro think its going to be fine, but me an actual full time logibro dont think its going to be fine. who's opinion actually matters here. the guy who abused logis getting them changed in the first place or the ones who have to put up with the changes while you just move on to better gear https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find



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