I'm not sure I'm understanding this.

I start reloading. I sprint to cancel my reload. And then what? Canceling my reload means I have to reload again. How is it actually resulting in me reloading faster?

Is there a tutorial on this in-game somewhere? I've never seen it in pop-ups or anything like that.

Is there a tutorial on this in-game somewhere? I've never seen it in pop-ups or anything like that.

Reload cancelling is in a lot of games. Personally, I think it's kinda cool because little things like this separates the good players from the great players. In a world where a person can be skillful at video games, things like reload cancelling and afterlife remote detonations make player that much better although they might not be intended by devs. The devs already fixed other things like the walls that had no collision so you could walk right through them or the sprint cancel on scanners.

- Kubo

I can't believe people are making a big deal outta this. It probably is a glitch however it is not game breaking and anyone can do it.

I can't believe people are making a big deal outta this. It probably is a glitch however it is not game breaking and anyone can do it.

This is NOT a gltich, its in so many different shooters
BF4 even expanded on it by letting you cancel in the middle of a reload and finishing after you stop sprinting
Ex. Put mag in, sprint, stop sprinting, bull bolt on gun or whatever to finish reload.

Um, why, exactly?

Its NOT fine..he's the typical online gamer, ok with anything that benefits him. what exactly is the point of guns having diff reload times. It needs fixing.

It's a glitch. The animation is the physical representation of the reload action; if you can't finish it, you shouldn't have a fresh magazine at your disposal. Reload cancelling negates the worth of every reload skill in the game, not to mention every commandos suit skill. And if every other game has it, so what? Are we ok making the same mistakes of our competitors? Not me, no thanks.

This is NOT a gltich, its in so many different shooters
BF4 even expanded on it by letting you cancel in the middle of a reload and finishing after you stop sprinting
Ex. Put mag in, sprint, stop sprinting, bull bolt on gun or whatever to finish reload.

Do you noobs really have to get all butthurt about not us not consistently updating every new player who plays Dust about the basic functions in the majority of FPS games? Guess what, you can throw grenades too! And if you press the "x" button on the DS3, YOU CAN JUMP!

Just because you weren't here when all of the forum conversation happened doesn't make you entitled to call everything you didn't see put into the game personally or everything not announced directly by a Dev a glitch. I suppose that makes inertial dampners glitches too since they never announced it as a feature in the forums, right? And I guess it's a glitch that they took the installations menu off of the marketplace menu since the Dev's never announced it? And when they never announced missiles becoming totally OP in Codex? And I guess every nina nerf/buff throughout the history of Dust is a glitch as well I suppose too?

Learn to play on your own, it's not the community's job to do it for you. Just because you are uninformed doesn't mean everything you don't know about or haven't seen announced is a glitch.

Get good
Just becuase you dont understand basic FPS mechanics dosent mean it should be removed
Did you know grenades can be cooked?! But not everyone might know this so we should remove it

Uh no. I'm against being able to skip half of the reload animation by sprinting and only sprinting.

Just for those that don't know about this: currently, while reloading, if you sprint just as your character puts the new magazine in the gun, the remainder of the reload animation will be skipped, and your gun will be reloaded.

Now I can understand being annoyed and having immersion broken by being forced to watch your character slowly reset their gun sights once the mag is already in, and I've seen some threads in the past with ideas for more comprehensive and realistic reload animations, which I'm all for. I'm just saying that I don't like this specific glitch being used as a part of core gameplay, especially when there's clearly people that don't even know about it. Glitches should never be a balancing factor, and this just increases the disparity between vets and noobs even more.

There was a thread a while back on "progressive reloading", which if I recall basically described exactly this. It makes perfect sense, and I'd love to see it in Dust at some point. I don't really expect to anytime soon though.




Careful with the fallacies chief. Firstly, I'm not a noob, and I'm not butthurt; I'm just calling attention to something that doesn't totally make sense. You can look up the controls in "System Operation" on the Neocom, so grenade throwing and jumping actually are clearly documented. But more to the point, it's not the lack of official documentation that leads me to calling this a glitch, it's just watching the animation that does. There's clearly a fully programmed reloading animation, and you can see you ammo filling up the bars as your character reloads, being completely full when done. But by performing this, both of these are suddenly cut off and just considered full. It looks and feels like a glitch, that's all.




Virtually any actual valid point you could have potentially made is entirely negated by uttering such an immature boy's club phrase as "get good". But, anyway: as has been said before, it makes no difference what mechanics other games employ. This is Dust, not other games, and knowledge of other games' mechanics shouldn't be a prerequisite to playing this one. I did know grenades can be cooked, because there's that nice whistling countdown sound it makes when holding the grenade. So again, clearly not a glitch, the game is telling me about one of it's mechanics.

And also if you reload with rounds left in your current clip they should be removed from your total ammo count.

Get good
Just becuase you dont understand basic FPS mechanics dosent mean it should be removed
Did you know grenades can be cooked?! But not everyone might know this so we should remove it

The grenade makes a noise letting you know it can be cooked
Magazine goes in the gun letting you know you dont have to wait for the rest of the animation.

That dosent make any sence, you really think all the major FPS games just happen to have the same "gltich"? The only way that would make sence is if...oh i dont know...it was put it on purpose?

Virtually any actual valid point you could have potentially made is entirely negated by uttering such an immature boy's club phrase as "get good". But, anyway: as has been said before, it makes no difference what mechanics other games employ. This is Dust, not other games, and knowledge of other games' mechanics shouldn't be a prerequisite to playing this one. I did know grenades can be cooked, because there's that nice whistling countdown sound it makes when holding the grenade. So again, clearly not a glitch, the game is telling me about one of it's mechanics.

The grenade makes a noise letting you know it can be cooked
Magazine goes in the gun letting you know you dont have to wait for the rest of the animation.

All major being... slightly modified twitch-style drek-games annually made by the famously amoral EA and Activision? All of them let you reload cancel by sprinting specifically, and sprinting only?

Off the top of my head...

I know Gears of War had an "active reload" function with a visible on-screen bar allowing you to end the reload early for a bonus. That's intended. It's also documented though.

Metal Gear Solid lets you do a quick equip/unequip to reload a weapon. It also tells you about this though.

Counter-Strike: Source didn't let you cancel a reload and have full ammo, and neither did the original as I recall.

Killing Floor doesn't let you cancel reload animations at all.

Fallout New Vegas doesn't let you cancel an animation for a free reload (though you can interrupt reloading by firing for guns that load bullets individually). I believe Fallout 3 was similar.

America's Army 3 makes interrupted reloads have a chance of making your gun malfunction/jam.

The ARMA series and Operation Flashpoint don't have reload cancel either, that I recall.

It's irrelevant anyhow- it's about Dust, not all the "major" games. If they want us to be able to cancel a reload, "sprinting" shouldn't be the only way to do it - any action should cancel a reload. The playerbase should also be informed.

You can reload cancel by meleeing, switching weapons, throwing a grenade, or by doing anything other than standing still or walking in cod and battlefield

In dust im pretty sure switching weapons also reload cancels

Also in fallout you can reload by switching to another weapon than switching back which is much faster than reloading, i almost never reload my guns in that game.

Reload canceling is a basic part of dust thats your fault if you dont realize you can do it, no changes needed here.