Um, why, exactly?

I'm sorry, but this is a terribly blatant fallacy. Ubiquity does not equal value. Let this game have it's own values and survive on it's own merits, no?

Shayz, I can see where you're coming from. But again, why not just lower the reload times then? A glitch should never be a part of core gameplay, in my opinion. And as can be evidenced from some replies here, not everybody is even aware of it. And why would they be? It's clearly not explained or even hinted at anywhere in the game by itself.

Hmm... I'd say something like this is a glitch and should be fixed. Otherwise, why have things like reload bonuses on suits, or reload skills? It diminishes the point of their existence. It also puts new players that are unaware of it at a disadvantage. I've played a year, and I didn't know you could reload cancel. I'd call it an exploit. Remove it so that skills, weapon differences, and suit bonuses that impact reload have a point.

The alternative is removing all those reload skills that effectively become "gotcha" skills for new players to waste SP in before they know, further expanding the gap between noobs and vets that know not to waste points on reload skills.

Clearly, not everyone knows about it from the first day of Dust.

Its NOT fine..he's the typical online gamer, ok with anything that benefits him. what exactly is the point of guns having diff reload times. It needs fixing.

It's a glitch. The animation is the physical representation of the reload action; if you can't finish it, you shouldn't have a fresh magazine at your disposal. Reload cancelling negates the worth of every reload skill in the game, not to mention every commandos suit skill. And if every other game has it, so what? Are we ok making the same mistakes of our competitors? Not me, no thanks.

There was a thread a while back on "progressive reloading", which if I recall basically described exactly this. It makes perfect sense, and I'd love to see it in Dust at some point. I don't really expect to anytime soon though.




Careful with the fallacies chief. Firstly, I'm not a noob, and I'm not butthurt; I'm just calling attention to something that doesn't totally make sense. You can look up the controls in "System Operation" on the Neocom, so grenade throwing and jumping actually are clearly documented. But more to the point, it's not the lack of official documentation that leads me to calling this a glitch, it's just watching the animation that does. There's clearly a fully programmed reloading animation, and you can see you ammo filling up the bars as your character reloads, being completely full when done. But by performing this, both of these are suddenly cut off and just considered full. It looks and feels like a glitch, that's all.




Virtually any actual valid point you could have potentially made is entirely negated by uttering such an immature boy's club phrase as "get good". But, anyway: as has been said before, it makes no difference what mechanics other games employ. This is Dust, not other games, and knowledge of other games' mechanics shouldn't be a prerequisite to playing this one. I did know grenades can be cooked, because there's that nice whistling countdown sound it makes when holding the grenade. So again, clearly not a glitch, the game is telling me about one of it's mechanics.

And also if you reload with rounds left in your current clip they should be removed from your total ammo count.

Virtually any actual valid point you could have potentially made is entirely negated by uttering such an immature boy's club phrase as "get good". But, anyway: as has been said before, it makes no difference what mechanics other games employ. This is Dust, not other games, and knowledge of other games' mechanics shouldn't be a prerequisite to playing this one. I did know grenades can be cooked, because there's that nice whistling countdown sound it makes when holding the grenade. So again, clearly not a glitch, the game is telling me about one of it's mechanics.

The grenade makes a noise letting you know it can be cooked
Magazine goes in the gun letting you know you dont have to wait for the rest of the animation.

All major being... slightly modified twitch-style drek-games annually made by the famously amoral EA and Activision? All of them let you reload cancel by sprinting specifically, and sprinting only?

Off the top of my head...

I know Gears of War had an "active reload" function with a visible on-screen bar allowing you to end the reload early for a bonus. That's intended. It's also documented though.

Metal Gear Solid lets you do a quick equip/unequip to reload a weapon. It also tells you about this though.

Counter-Strike: Source didn't let you cancel a reload and have full ammo, and neither did the original as I recall.

Killing Floor doesn't let you cancel reload animations at all.

Fallout New Vegas doesn't let you cancel an animation for a free reload (though you can interrupt reloading by firing for guns that load bullets individually). I believe Fallout 3 was similar.

America's Army 3 makes interrupted reloads have a chance of making your gun malfunction/jam.

The ARMA series and Operation Flashpoint don't have reload cancel either, that I recall.

It's irrelevant anyhow- it's about Dust, not all the "major" games. If they want us to be able to cancel a reload, "sprinting" shouldn't be the only way to do it - any action should cancel a reload. The playerbase should also be informed.

So it's not ALL the major games. Reloading by switching isn't "canceling" a reload animation.

It's not my fault if an unmentioned "feature" goes unnoticed. It's not basic enough to be noted anywhere in-game.

But then why does only sprinting do this? Why even bother programming in the rest of the animation? If the devs want to make the animation stop once the clip is in, that's fine. Or like I said, have the animation start logically from where you left off. But we have right now just looks and feels weird.

I don't care at all what other games do. This isn't other games. And as Zheylon has said, if it's going to be a part of the game, make it known to everyone.

You....didn't actually read what I said, did you?

No, clearly you didn't. Because I just advocated for a progressive reloading system, where it picks up where you left off. So you wouldn't have to put a new mag in after you already did that. So....yea.