Ahh the good ole days when using a glitch would get you banned. Seems dust is the other way around in some ways encourages using a glitch till its fixed, since there seems to be no consequences for it.

It's a normal mainstay. There's just some things you don't argue about. RCing is one of em. This isn't the first game to have it.

You must be new here.

Back when I was a closed beta newberry, we didn't have sprint cancels or "glitches" like that. We had to wait for our HMG to reload. All. 30. Seconds. Of. It.

But then we got together and petitioned and talked to the devs about it and got it changed.

Remember, it's not a glitch, it's a feature.

Without it we'd run into the glitch that reverted reloads, trust me, this is better, that was the more annoying glitches in DUST.

They did it mainly because 99% of all the dust review videos out there when the game was first released complained that the reload was too long on the weapon, and that they were having to reload like 5-6 times because they were stupid CoD players that are used to a .05 second reload, and usually once you place a clip into a gun, the gun should be ready to use. The AR takes another half a second to lower the gun once you have reloaded, and canceling out of that part of the animation shouldn't mean you need to reload again.

Besides, this game is one of the only FPS games in which you can't reload and sprint at the same time. Our sprint cancel is fine.

I use it all the time with my Swarm Launcher, Shotgun, and Plasma Cannon.

It's not really game-breaking though, but some could argue that it negates the purpose of having a skill that increases reload speed.

So if I sprint I can reload my PLC faster? I always wind up reload cancelling etc...

So if I sprint I can reload my PLC faster? I always wind up reload cancelling etc...

The trick is to sprint just after your merc puts the new magazine in. Practice it a few times and after a while it sorta becomes second nature.

Man, your thread is close minded. Just how is the cancel and skip really affecting you? How is it affecting gameplay to where it's unplayable?

Don't call my comment close minded when you are essentially creating witch hunts to argue about something that EVERYBODY can use to their advantage and it does not hurt the overall game.

Thread is stupid. How can one complain about something such as minor as this?

If its such a problem, then why are you trying to teach someone how to do it? Should you not being exposing such a "game breaking exploit" as such?

It's really not a problem though...

It's common sense that once you put a clip into the weapon, the weapon should be finished reloading. Any extra animation is just for realism.

I think that the change needs to be that the reload bar should finish right at the same time that the clip is inserted. You should also be able to aim/fire as soon as that happens to cancel the rest of the animation.

This would show the player that the reload is finished, even if the animation doesn't say so.

That's a tad hostile. I don't see how this can be compared to a witch hunt, at all, sorry. Everybody that knows about it can use this, but as this thread has already demonstrated, not everyone does. The game does nothing to tell players, so fresh newberries would have no way of knowing. In that regard, I believe it hurts the game overall by further increasing the gap between noobs and vets (as I stated before).

I'm not saying it's a major problem or anything, just wanted to know if the devs had any thoughts about it for the future. I don't see how my asking is really a bad thing.

A bit, maybe. But definitely not as much as there is right now. It's cutting like 40-50% of the reload time off. Really that's pretty silly.

That's....a pretty lazy excuse man. I'd much rather they just had their animations work correctly. Especially since it benefits different weapons differently. My HMG for example, cuts off a lot more reloading time than an AR.

I love how all of these scrubs think this is a glitch. It's not a glitch, it's a gameplay mechanic. If you are good at timing it right you can cut down on your reload speed before you sprint off to the next firefight. Also:

That's a ridiculous overstatement. It cut's off around the last 10-20% of the reload animation (depending on the animation), allowing you to get moving or get back into the fight faster. One more thing:

It's not just the animation. It's a bonus for players who stay aware. Your animation includes all kinds of things, but back before the reload-skip was implemented you had to wait until your weapon was fully reloaded and in it's natural position again before sprinting or preforming a melee. Meaning that even though you had already replaced the clip, had done whatever fancy clip pat or what have you, and your weapon was on it's way back to it's normal hipfire position but you happened to start sprinting a nanosecond before it was there, your gun reset back to it's clip capacity before you reloaded. The reload skip basically allows you to skip the aesthetic portion of the reload animation there only for show and not important to weapon functionality. This allows them to avoid the aforementioned issues as well as give people who can time it properly a cut to their reload time.

Lastly, the reload speed skill is important regardless of the reload-skip animation. Anything that get's you shooting again faster is worth the points, especially on weapons with longer reload animations.

If it's a feature, it's certainly not an advertised mechanic. I never knew about it, nor have I ever heard anyone mention you could. If you can direct me to the thread where the devs list useful glitches for players to use assuming they visit the forums to see it, that'd be great.

It is not a glitch.

Ok, fine. Show me where the players got the devs to add it and they approve of it then. Or, show me where the feature is documented so that new players know you can cancel an animation.

Because I'm sure you wouldn't expect them to try it just because other games have that feature. That's like assuming playing 'X' game is a prerequisite for Dust.

Ok, fine. Show me where the players got the devs to add it and they approve of it then. Or, show me where the feature is documented so that new players know you can cancel an animation.

Because I'm sure you wouldn't expect them to try it just because other games have that feature. That's like assuming playing 'X' game is a prerequisite for Dust.

Hopefully now people can better understand what I meant by closed-minded.

They did it mainly because 99% of all the dust review videos out there when the game was first released complained that the reload was too long on the weapon, and that they were having to reload like 5-6 times because they were stupid CoD players that are used to a .05 second reload, and usually once you place a clip into a gun, the gun should be ready to use. The AR takes another half a second to lower the gun once you have reloaded, and canceling out of that part of the animation shouldn't mean you need to reload again.

Besides, this game is one of the only FPS games in which you can't reload and sprint at the same time. Our sprint cancel is fine.

Or more like a nagging housewife who complains about the menial things that shouldn't be of any concern