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True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5359	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:36:00 - [1] - Quote Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2482	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:38:00 - [2] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7743	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:45:00 - [3] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. I've seen them respond to more rude insulting angry threads with actual responses. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 456	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:48:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. So you wanna wait for 20-30 minutes for each game? You know top quality gamers are like 1 out of 100?
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 799	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:50:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. Amen, to that brother. bats his eye lashes - glowing halo over his head {:)}{3GÇó> "I came here to chew bubblegum and kick @$$, and I'm all out of bubblegum."
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7743	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:52:00 - [6] - Quote My problems with matchmaking. I get thrown into battles with uneven teams, in fact I had 3 v 9, and a 4 v 2 battle yesterday. I still get battles with a full tea of friendlies, but 0 enemies. In both these sorts of cases, matchmaking does not add any new players even though its clearly needed. Matchmaking has no problem adding players to battles about to end. Why does matchmaking not add players to mostly empty battles, yet add players to battles about to end? I have even seen players joining in the VICTORY/DEFEAT screen. Still fails at matching players with those of their own skill levels. If there is a squad of high skill players, match them against enemy squads of high skill players, don't throw them in with a bunch of NPC corp newbs. Please fix. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Razer-811 Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:53:00 - [7] - Quote If it means that new players are able to accomplish SOMETHING besides being the padding for your KDR, I don't mind you having to wait a little longer. It's already been suggested several times to break up the player-base by lifetime WP/SP. As it stands right now, new players are just there to be farmed. It wouldn't be game-killing to have some form of tiered matchmaking in which new players at least have a chance to get on their feet before a dozer smashes their faces in the ground.
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2178	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:55:00 - [8] - Quote :o Shots Fired At CCP ¶GûàcGùÅGûäGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê\|\|GûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûàGûà\|\|Gûê~ ~:~:~ :~:GûêGû¦ GûäGûêGûê this tank approve GûêGûêGûàGûäGûâGûé GùÑGÿ+Gû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦-*UJELLY?*
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 663	Posted - 2014.01.03 10:57:00 - [9] - Quote one of the most memorable matches I've ever had was a 3 vs 2 Was by far the best stealthy Minja game I've ever played. Full of brilliant tactics and my own personal dirty tricks By the end of it they were constantly on their guard afraid I would strike again I just wish the other 2 on my team got off their backsides and did something. I won on kills but the other guys could cap more objectives so we lost "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 345	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:02:00 - [10] - Quote I've been in a 1v4 match and watched the matchmaker add 3 more people to the other side making it 1v7. CCP are hapless munchkins with no clue what they are doing, its not even bad, its just flat broken.

FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven 94	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:03:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûâ GûéGûäGûàGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûàGûäGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêassholes like meGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê]. GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ
jerrmy12 kahoalii Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 220	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:07:00 - [12] - Quote FAKIR REDETTa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûâ GûéGûäGûàGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûàGûäGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêassholes like meGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê]. GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ LOLOLOLOLOOL ROFLLLLLLLLLL LOL ROFLLL lol recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit I use a tablet so beware of typos
Soulja Ghostface MCDUSTDONALDS Zero-Day 2178	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:09:00 - [13] - Quote Quote: GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûâ GûéGûäGûàGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûàGûäGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêassholes like meGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê]. GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ Dammit, to big for my signature GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûâ IGûêGûêGûê@$$Holes Like MeGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê]. GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 398	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:11:00 - [14] - Quote I'll just leave this here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102800 Tiercide treatment to suits would give newer players the opportunity to increase their survivability with more mod slots. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
steadyhand amarr Scions of Athra 2114	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:35:00 - [15] - Quote Fixed isk contracts with varying values blam problem solved. This was sujested back in weekend only testing. Pve could be used as the isk farm for bads. Also sujested back in weekend only testing "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 800	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:44:00 - [16] - Quote FAKIR REDETTa wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê ]GûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûäGûâ GûéGûäGûàGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûàGûäGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêassholes like meGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê]. GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñ {:)}{3GÇó> "I came here to chew bubblegum and kick @$$, and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2249	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:45:00 - [17] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. Agreed! Everyone throws the blame towards those of us who run prototype gear and IGÇÖd be all for not running proto if you could at least tell who or what level of SP players you're against. I feel really bad running prototype gear (sometimes) but IGÇÖve got to spend my ISK somehow and I want to enjoy the game how I like playing it..... If CCP pulled their fingers out of their ass and implemented a matchmaking system and considering there is no matchmaking, newberries are unfortunately getting put into matches with those of us who have 25 million plus SP; which is wrong! P.S. Unfortunately it looks like we wont have 1.8 this month either to help the issue :( Gÿ£GÿàGÿP Subdreddit Recruitment Video Gÿ£GÿàGÿP
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 949	Posted - 2014.01.03 11:54:00 - [18] - Quote Partially agreeing. Matchmaking is still flawed, even while taking into consideration the cases where a nice initial balance is broken straight away for one squad cancelling or leaving before match starts (that will unavoidably create hard cases). I don't have much experience on the academy, but it doesn't seem to work properly. I fired up my alt (which has been laying around unplayed ticking some sp but zero wp) and begun the first match which is to my understanding automatically going to be academy. On that very first game and second following this freshman char was paired up against... ...Rainbow Effect. On following day three games vs Russian Terror Squad (or something). Even though I found those games challenging and refreshing, that can not be the environment we want new players to learn the game. Tank spam getting onto your nerves? An improvement:
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 532	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:20:00 - [19] - Quote Come on guys I am sure we have all been there. I didn't expect MR AMARR to get to this point though :P I have to be honest with myself though, his point still stands. There are a few options CCP could use to patch the system to help a little.I have no idea what small fix would be best but a few ideas have been floating around on the forums the last few months.
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2485	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:21:00 - [20] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. I've seen them respond to more rude insulting angry threads with actual responses. Unless you think that the tone of the post contributed to CCP engaging with them (and those you're talking about are the exception to a rule that many rage threads demonstrate, so if you think this, you're wilfully ignoring evidence) then the point stands and your point of contention is stupid. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11517	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:30:00 - [21] - Quote The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 545	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:50:00 - [22] - Quote Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7744	Posted - 2014.01.03 12:54:00 - [23] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. I've seen them respond to more rude insulting angry threads with actual responses. Unless you think that the tone of the post contributed to CCP engaging with them (and those you're talking about are the exception to a rule that many rage threads demonstrate, so if you think this, you're wilfully ignoring evidence) then the point stands and your point of contention is stupid. I never claimed it would make them more likely to comment (or that I agree with that sort of tone), but it certainly doesn't stop them from commenting on the issue; that's my point. Oh look, a dev post right above my post. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7744	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:00:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. I was never a supporter of segregating part of the player-base from any particular mode, but now I eally do think vehicles should be kept out of ambush. Regarding ambush spawns, its broken, and it has ALWAYS been broken for over a year. CCP demonstrated that they can't make it work after all this time, and they need to replace the spawn system completely. I totally agree with the need for tiercide. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2102	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:04:00 - [25] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. Vehicle free lolno If protobears can 6man stomp then so can tanks Intelligence is OP
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 1365	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:06:00 - [26] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. I've seen them respond to more rude insulting angry threads with actual responses. Theory confirmed? Thank you for the post, Saberwing, but let's see some blue tags on more constructive threads please. ¶Gêƒ__ Gò« Gû¿GûêGûêGûêGòáGëíGëíGëíGû¬ « GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GÇó GåÆFAT GATGåÉ pÇûGûôGûôGûôGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæpÇùForum Warrior LV 1 (NEXT: 300/1000XP) ¯Gò¦pÇôpÇù
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1582	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:09:00 - [27] - Quote Removing vehicles from Ambush? I Dunno, I spend enough time on foot trying to find anything to shoot at. The maps are too big compared to playercount. Either rewamp the game mode and make smaller maps or bring a higher player Count -which probably won't work. Or at least let us keep the LAVs or future hoverbikes or whatnot, I'm tired of running... The combination of todays huge maps, low player Count and no vehicles will be very boring indeed. http://s1286.photobucket.com/user/KingBabar/media/BannerKingbabarcopy.png.html
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7744	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:14:00 - [28] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. Vehicle free lolno If protobears can 6man stomp then so can tanks Tank > squad of proto. Tanks are faster, have more fire power, immune to most infantry weapons, and have hardeners for temporary invincibility against their only weaknesses. Ideally proto shouldn't exist if tiercide does happened. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:22:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. Yes, vehicle free ambush please. Mentioned this several months ago and tankers jumped all over me for it. Now though, with tanks being as feared as they are, tanks are having a noticeable impact in ambush. Or should I say a OP presence. Small maps make it nearly impossible to even call tanks to counter. Last night ran a few games with my corp. Ambush, was running my logi, and was SICK of using my tank. Boom 2 enemy tanks. Sigh. Though as I was roaming the edge of the map, vainly searching for a safe area to call my tank in, I realized that there is just no way to call a tank in and not have it noticed by the others on the field. Next ambush I said screw it, and called in one at the start. Lav comes in, then my tank. Then a maddie with blasters pulls up as it was dropping. No shields when I jumped in. What really pissed me off though, was that was a missile gunnlogi, with duel hardeners. That poor poor tank would have cried, and his buddy too. Yeah, I'm a tanker and I want tank free games please. Nuff Said
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:25:00 - [30] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. Vehicle free lolno If protobears can 6man stomp then so can tanks Tank > squad of proto. Tanks are faster, have more fire power, immune to most infantry weapons, and have hardeners for temporary invincibility against their only weaknesses. Ideally proto shouldn't exist if tiercide does happened. Biggest problem is, AV simply cannot cut it much of the time. And even then, it forces many people into an AV roles that leaves them weak to infantry. Call in 2 tanks, and half their team will be needed just to fend off tanks. And maps are usually very small, making it very easy for the tanks to deny a side tank support, which is the BEST counter currently. Nuff Said

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11520	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:27:00 - [31] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Removing vehicles from Ambush? I Dunno, I spend enough time on foot trying to find anything to shoot at. The maps are too big compared to playercount. Either rewamp the game mode and make smaller maps or bring a higher player Count -which probably won't work. Or at least let us keep the LAVs or future hoverbikes or whatnot, I'm tired of running... The combination of todays huge maps, low player Count and no vehicles will be very boring indeed. I can't walk 3 feet from spawn without getting shot at yesterday. The maps are immensely small with no place to really hide. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 361	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:31:00 - [32] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: KingBabar wrote: Removing vehicles from Ambush? I Dunno, I spend enough time on foot trying to find anything to shoot at. The maps are too big compared to playercount. Either rewamp the game mode and make smaller maps or bring a higher player Count -which probably won't work. Or at least let us keep the LAVs or future hoverbikes or whatnot, I'm tired of running... The combination of todays huge maps, low player Count and no vehicles will be very boring indeed. I can't walk 3 feet from spawn without getting shot at yesterday. The maps are immensely small with no place to really hide. There are a few very large maps, though I rarely see them. They basically feel like a skirmish maps, and typically, tanks are less of a worry, as there is plenty of room to safely call in tanks. So, much tank on tank action, so infantry can do other infantry. Nuff Said
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11520	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:45:00 - [33] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: KingBabar wrote: Removing vehicles from Ambush? I Dunno, I spend enough time on foot trying to find anything to shoot at. The maps are too big compared to playercount. Either rewamp the game mode and make smaller maps or bring a higher player Count -which probably won't work. Or at least let us keep the LAVs or future hoverbikes or whatnot, I'm tired of running... The combination of todays huge maps, low player Count and no vehicles will be very boring indeed. I can't walk 3 feet from spawn without getting shot at yesterday. The maps are immensely small with no place to really hide. There are a few very large maps, though I rarely see them. They basically feel like a skirmish maps, and typically, tanks are less of a worry, as there is plenty of room to safely call in tanks. So, much tank on tank action, so infantry can do other infantry. What generally happens on those maps is one spawn would get 'gamed' into a corner and they cannot do anything. This is generally accelerated by a blueberry dropping an uplinks (or continuously dropping uplinks) so the default or uplink spawns becomes a death trap unable to get out of the seige or organize enough to push out of it. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Razer-811 Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 3	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:46:00 - [34] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: There are a few very large maps, though I rarely see them. They basically feel like a skirmish maps, and typically, tanks are less of a worry, as there is plenty of room to safely call in tanks. So, much tank on tank action, so infantry can do other infantry. Well that just sounds naughty. As it stands, I'm continuously filtering AMBUSH out of my Battle match-ups because it just devolves into HE WHO FIELDS THE MOST TANKS FIRST DOTH WIN! My team just a half hour ago, got themselves backed into a building and was pinned down inside it by 6 tanks for the final half of the map while my squad-mates were singing over mic. It was fun times. I'd be willing even to face a wall of proto-spam if it meant that the match'd be infantry only. I've always enjoyed those sorts of match-ups more than a mix of infantry/vehicles when it's a TDM-setting.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 7748	Posted - 2014.01.03 13:59:00 - [35] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Any plans to fix issues I mentioned like getting thrown into battles with extremely uneven teams (like 3 vs 9) in which no more players join, battles with a full team of friendlies but 0 enemies in which no enemies ever join, yet Matchmaking has no problem adding players to battles about to end? (thread) Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 215	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:04:00 - [36] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: I've been in a 1v4 match and watched the matchmaker add 3 more people to the other side making it 1v7. CCP are hapless munchkins with no clue what they are doing, its not even bad, its just flat broken. I was in a match where I was alone against a full proto NYAN squad Then the matchmaker apparently believed I was a one man army and a full squad if AE joined on the NYAN side making it 1vs12 Left that game just to be thrown into the loooooose screen of a other match Matchmaker is brilliant War never changes
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7389	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:05:00 - [37] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. ^ This is a fantastic response right here. Saberwing, thank you kindly for braving the ragey people to bring us this information. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1426	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:17:00 - [38] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Aah Ignore him, he's doing his rant in the corner. However since you are here I'll give you my suggestion on how to improve the matchmaking. (Wether you want it or not) Implement a Performance Based System ontop of the current one. The current matchmaker works very well (for me anyway, longest I have waited is 4secs). But from what I have gleened it only matches people based on their internet connection. You would benifit greatly from a performance based system on top of this. This would require a new metric, which I will denote as Infamy for the time being. The infamy metric doesn't need to be shown to players if you don't want to. Bjt it is calculated from KDR, WLR, WP PM, ISK Fielded PM, put in a formula something like this. (ISK +ù KDR) / (1 / WLR -í WP PM ) FYI : WLR -í WP PM = WP PM to the root of WLR. The formula will probably need tweaking but basically you then match people from the first system by getting the infamy as close as possible.. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11522	Posted - 2014.01.03 14:22:00 - [39] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Aah Ignore him, he's doing his rant in the corner. However since you are here I'll give you my suggestion on how to improve the matchmaking. (Wether you want it or not) Implement a Performance Based System ontop of the current one. The current matchmaker works very well (for me anyway, longest I have waited is 4secs). But from what I have gleened it only matches people based on their internet connection. You would benifit greatly from a performance based system on top of this. This would require a new metric, which I will denote as Infamy for the time being. The infamy metric doesn't need to be shown to players if you don't want to. Bjt it is calculated from KDR, WLR, WP PM, ISK Fielded PM, put in a formula something like this. (ISK +ù KDR) / (1 / WLR -í WP PM ) FYI : WLR -í WP PM = WP PM to the root of WLR. The formula will probably need tweaking but basically you then match people from the first system by getting the infamy as close as possible.. Have to remember we do have this system in place and it was turned off due to the larger number of empty matches. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1426	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:11:00 - [40] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Aah Ignore him, he's doing his rant in the corner. However since you are here I'll give you my suggestion on how to improve the matchmaking. (Wether you want it or not) Implement a Performance Based System ontop of the current one. The current matchmaker works very well (for me anyway, longest I have waited is 4secs). But from what I have gleened it only matches people based on their internet connection. You would benifit greatly from a performance based system on top of this. This would require a new metric, which I will denote as Infamy for the time being. The infamy metric doesn't need to be shown to players if you don't want to. Bjt it is calculated from KDR, WLR, WP PM, ISK Fielded PM, put in a formula something like this. (ISK +ù KDR) / (1 / WLR -í WP PM ) FYI : WLR -í WP PM = WP PM to the root of WLR. The formula will probably need tweaking but basically you then match people from the first system by getting the infamy as close as possible.. Have to remember we do have this system in place and it was turned off due to the larger number of empty matches. What the one deployed in 1.4? Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1

low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1061	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:15:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. how about man up and stop running proto every chance you get?
Soraya Xel The Corporate Raiders Top Men. 841	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:16:00 - [42] - Quote I write a far more specific post on matchmaking, in the appropriate forum, and it gets no responses. This guy gets both CPM and CCP devs. I need to write ragier posts. Top Men. - The DUST Arm of Gentlemen's Agreement www.dust-gents.com Recruiting corporations and players now!
pseudosnipre 433	Posted - 2014.01.03 15:22:00 - [43] - Quote Who says matches need to be full? Many vets might like the challenge of their 6-man squad going against 16 low- and mid-tier players...and those that dont can stick with Gal/Min FW for all their stat-padding needs. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you.
Divu Aakmin Crimson Saints 37	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:33:00 - [44] - Quote Match making is flawed, but as long as "leave battle" is always an option i can cope. Smart deploy however is terrible. This is evident in 80 clone matches with 75/0 clones at the end. If you start in a kill box and some blueberry drops links.... well it is over.
RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 598	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:36:00 - [45] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. It's funny because those threads always get blue tags while decent threads get unanswered, so think about it...what message are you really sending out?
Logi Bro Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN. 2545	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:39:00 - [46] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays Sadface. I figured it would just be delayed to mid-month, rather than to February. No, I am not CCP Logibro. Not actually a Logi Bro anymore, more like a Big Bro.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 670	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:44:00 - [47] - Quote RKKR wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. It's funny because those threads always get blue tags while decent threads get unanswered, so think about it...what message are you really sending out? These posts are much easier to counter and gain the upper hand on the OP. Ones with well thought out arguments and questions are to hard to counter, answer and defend without leaving yourself in a disadvantages spot publicly and quotable. The Question Saberwing leaves with answering so quickly is more that they are reading the posts. Which is a comforting thought. However not being able to guage their positions on any of it beyond what the community has been stuck with from CPM's like IWS... makes this process frustrating. And for those who don't have endless time on their smart phone, multi-tasking abilities and or time off work. The ones without that, just get frustrated after a few months and give up throwing their hands up in the air and find another title. The worst part, most of those Mercenaries where the truly talented ones.
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 558	Posted - 2014.01.03 17:46:00 - [48] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. While "threatening" language may not "entice" developer interaction, it should at least make you realize that a very basic component to the game, hell, to any game, is completely broken. Not to mention Dust has been out for about 2 years now, and matchmaking still isn't fixed.... Just that thought alone should warrant "developer interaction" with the community, because when it has been 2 years and it's still a huge issue, people are going to get pissed off, plain and simple..
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1336	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:10:00 - [49] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. "working on it" is honestly all we need. thank you, we appreciate your response. Also smart deploy ONLY deploys you on an uplink. makes no sense. perhaps have smart deploy in skirmish and dom so you can automatically be put near an objective?
CrotchGrab 360 The Men In The Mirror 1336	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:11:00 - [50] - Quote Serimos Haeraven wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. While "threatening" language may not "entice" developer interaction, it should at least make you realize that a very basic component to the game, hell, to any game, is completely broken. Not to mention Dust has been out for about 2 years now, and matchmaking still isn't fixed.... Just that thought alone should warrant "developer interaction" with the community, because when it has been 2 years and it's still a huge issue, people are going to get pissed off, plain and simple.. DUST has been "out" since May 2013.............

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1469	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:12:00 - [51] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Regarding matchmaking: Any idea how you will fix FW? I mean it's not necessarely a thing about the MM there, but about the factions most players chose. And getting stomped all day on Amarr and Caldari side isn't really fun. So any thoughts about making it desireable to fight for a faction which holds 0% of the districts? Like giving them Standing and more LP for example until they get a foothold again? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 77	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:16:00 - [52] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. So you're aware of how unbalanced the game is overall to make sure that it won't update for another month?
RED FARM GOOD OL' B0YS 50	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:33:00 - [53] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I had no issues coming in as a newb. I did not know sole who played. I wasted SP in skills I would never use and alike. All I knew was kill orange chevrons! That is what makes it some fun.... The months of building your clone up. Going from hit and run run run tactics to if you shoot at me there is a 84.75% chance you will die is great. I can still run 2k ISK suits and pull up positive kill numbers cause I either lone wolf way on flanks or stay in a group.I honestly for 2 months did not know what a proto suit looked like. It was only when a squad I was in said something that got me wondering. Best advice for a newb......understand what different suits look like and know whento not engage. This is not COD....not BOs. Rushing gets you killed. Be a medic and squad up until you can skill up then ask people before using SP. On the flip side, matchmaking by lifetime skill points should be easy to achieve. Just give Scotty a 15 seconds timeout for the query and if he cannot evenly stack sides......he does his best. See ya' on the battlefield. RF Public Chat: GOOD OL' B0YS Please note the word B0YS has a zero in it.
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist Orion Empire 316	Posted - 2014.01.03 18:48:00 - [54] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ...ambush needs to go vehicle free... omg yisss Pineapples on pizza.
Grimmiers 0uter.Heaven 404	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:00:00 - [55] - Quote The smart spawn system could be smarter about not grouping entire teams withing 20m. The game should have an invisible frontline to make it so people spawn more evenly in ambush. Matchmaking on the other hand should have a ranking system in place. Someone made a thread suggesting it and it works pretty well in counter strike global by having the collective ranks of each team be as close as possible. SoundCloud Recruiter Link Pronounced Grim-e-urs
TheWee BabySeamus Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 75	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:00:00 - [56] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. No patch because of a holiday, you my friends are amateurs. Also RACIAL HEAVY SUITS????????? Wee Baby Seamus-------------->DDB Director & #1 Sex chat operator
Aleph Rynedee Science For Death 22	Posted - 2014.01.03 19:26:00 - [57] - Quote Divu Aakmin wrote: Match making is flawed, but as long as "leave battle" is always an option i can cope. Smart deploy however is terrible. This is evident in 80 clone matches with 75/0 clones at the end. If you start in a kill box and some blueberry drops links.... well it is over. Just stop spawning and allow the system to reset. Dumbass blues will notice when their numbers cut in half or more. Doing so gives you a chance to regroup elsewhere on the map, albeit at a clone disadvantage.
Kigurosaka Laaksonen Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 47	Posted - 2014.01.03 20:07:00 - [58] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. How do you reconcile this with the Dust's setting, New Eden, home to the most cut throat MMO ever? The learning curve in EVE is much more steep and there is potential to run into people who will faceroll you every time you load a new grid (even a cloak CovOps slowboating into scram range). We're told to HTFU in EVE. Isn't the fact that matchmaking needs to exist in Dust at all a sign of a failure to integrate with EVE?
Forlorn Destrier Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2295	Posted - 2014.01.03 20:14:00 - [59] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. So you're aware of how unbalanced the game is overall to make sure that it won't update for another month? Why don't you volunteer to take time away from your family and not take the time off you have earned to work instead. Think of the people behind the names. The internet is made up of real humans - you should remember that. Your enjoyment of a video game takes a backseat to other people's desire to lead a happy life. What will be your legacy? Will you rise, or will you fall?
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1422	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:09:00 - [60] - Quote RED FARM wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I had no issues coming in as a newb. I did not know sole who played. I wasted SP in skills I would never use and alike. All I knew was kill orange chevrons! That is what makes it some fun.... The months of building your clone up. Going from hit and run run run tactics to if you shoot at me there is a 84.75% chance you will die is great. I can still run 2k ISK suits and pull up positive kill numbers cause I either lone wolf way on flanks or stay in a group.I honestly for 2 months did not know what a proto suit looked like. It was only when a squad I was in said something that got me wondering. Best advice for a newb......understand what different suits look like and know whento not engage. This is not COD....not BOs. Rushing gets you killed. Be a medic and squad up until you can skill up then ask people before using SP. On the flip side, matchmaking by lifetime skill points should be easy to achieve. Just give Scotty a 15 seconds timeout for the query and if he cannot evenly stack sides......he does his best. See ya' on the battlefield. RF +1 RED FARM, Good read. This is what a DUST merc sounds like! Imo this negates the single biggest motivating argument from the tiericide faction. Tiericide is a long trip down a difficult and costly path only to end up with many of the same problems we started with. There are far better ways to spend our limited dev resources, tbh. Education and a quality NPE are the first part of the answer. Going the CoD route is not. I support SP rollover.

crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 2132	Posted - 2014.01.03 22:46:00 - [61] - Quote also since 1.6 ambush has HUGE MAPS or tiny maps. why can't it be consistent?
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2490	Posted - 2014.01.03 23:39:00 - [62] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. I've seen them respond to more rude insulting angry threads with actual responses. Unless you think that the tone of the post contributed to CCP engaging with them (and those you're talking about are the exception to a rule that many rage threads demonstrate, so if you think this, you're wilfully ignoring evidence) then the point stands and your point of contention is stupid. I never claimed it would make them more likely to comment (or that I agree with that sort of tone), but it certainly doesn't stop them from commenting on the issue; that's my point. Oh look, a dev post right above my post. "Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread." Yeah the dev post supported your argument like woah. My point is that you're ignoring the thousands of critical threads that devs didn't bother interacting with. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 613	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:33:00 - [63] - Quote Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: How do you reconcile this with the Dust's setting, New Eden, home to the most cut throat MMO ever? The learning curve in EVE is much more steep and there is potential to run into people who will faceroll you every time you load a new grid (even a cloak CovOps slowboating into scram range). We're told to HTFU in EVE. Isn't the fact that matchmaking needs to exist in Dust at all a sign of a failure to integrate with EVE? This is an interesting question: New Eden is meant to be harsh. But - although they both live in the space place - EVE and DUST are ultimately separate games, with different player bases and needs. Where HTFU may be an answer to some of EVE's concerns, that doesn't always transcend over in to DUST where the nature of our player demographic (and ultimately our game) should be more accessible - particularly to newer players. That doesn't mean that there won't be situations where HTFU won't be a viable answer in DUST...we just need to make sure it's done appropriately. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 4056	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:37:00 - [64] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. The reason he is using that language is because we have all put up with your garbage ** for months. And it's not getting better GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 784	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:38:00 - [65] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. You guys need to come out and interact with the community. People who play Dust are legitimately frustrated by it and like to have some reasonable answers - like what you did just now. If you made the effort as a team to communicate with your players more often, I am sure the tone of the language when you are addressed would be quite different too. I understand that this is your game since you created it but it's also our game because we are here for the long haul and are willing to pay money depending on the product quality that you create. Thank you for your comment. Regards. Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 614	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:46:00 - [66] - Quote RKKR wrote: It's funny because those threads always get blue tags while decent threads get unanswered, so think about it...what message are you really sending out? Mithridates VI wrote: "Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread." Yeah the dev post supported your argument like woah. My point is that you're ignoring the thousands of critical threads that devs didn't bother interacting with. Mithridates is right. We do our best to respond to much of the constructive feedback we see - but would you rather I had never responded to this thread at all? We read and patrol our forums on a daily basis - some of us arguably spend more time on here than you lot ;) New suggestions and bug reports are pulled in to a report which is then presented to both the QA and Development teams for their feedback and analysis. The results are then posted publicly, which can generally be found here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=34744&p=3 Just to reiterate: it's one thing to be chastised for not responding, but totally another to think that you can elicit a response by using threatening language towards Devs. Not all of us have thick skin, and while some of us may brave it to continue posting, I promise you'll get better results if you play nice. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

Kigurosaka Laaksonen Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 47	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:48:00 - [67] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote: How do you reconcile this with the Dust's setting, New Eden, home to the most cut throat MMO ever? The learning curve in EVE is much more steep and there is potential to run into people who will faceroll you every time you load a new grid (even a cloak CovOps slowboating into scram range). We're told to HTFU in EVE. Isn't the fact that matchmaking needs to exist in Dust at all a sign of a failure to integrate with EVE? This is an interesting question: New Eden is meant to be harsh. But - although they both live in the space place - EVE and DUST are ultimately separate games, with different player bases and needs. Where HTFU may be an answer to some of EVE's concerns, that doesn't always transcend over in to DUST where the nature of our player demographic (and ultimately our game) should be more accessible - particularly to newer players. That doesn't mean that there won't be situations where HTFU won't be a viable answer in DUST...we just need to make sure it's done appropriately. Good answer. I can appreciate that.
ReGnYuM Imperfects 1683	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:49:00 - [68] - Quote I carried CCP Saberwing and CCP Frame in Ambush one night. Did not even get a thank you. Lesson learned: I am just a means to an end Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 617	Posted - 2014.01.04 03:53:00 - [69] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I carried CCP Saberwing and CCP Frame in Ambush one night. Did not even get a thank you. Lesson learned: I am just a means to an end We're only using you for your skills. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 5383	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:20:00 - [70] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: I carried CCP Saberwing and CCP Frame in Ambush one night. Did not even get a thank you. Lesson learned: I am just a means to an end We're only using you for your skills. I saw you too on my alt .....I got chu....everyone in squad did except Aero....poor boy... To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK

Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 467	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:42:00 - [71] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. I was never a supporter of segregating part of the player-base from any particular mode, but now I eally do think vehicles should be kept out of ambush. Regarding ambush spawns, its broken, and it has ALWAYS been broken for over a year. CCP demonstrated that they can't make it work after all this time, and they need to replace the spawn system completely. I totally agree with the need for tiercide. For ambush it might be good to get rid of smart deploy completely. Put in the MCC and redlines let people drop in and try to fight out from the redline and deploy uplinks for better spawn positions. Also how much vacation did ccp get for holidays? most people here in the US only had 3 days.
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 171	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:49:00 - [72] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Come on guys I am sure we have all been there. I didn't expect MR AMARR to get to this point though :P I have to be honest with myself though, his point still stands. There are a few options CCP could use to patch the system to help a little.I have no idea what small fix would be best but a few ideas have been floating around on the forums the last few months. i still think the best solution is to put new players in a controlled environment with no other players in it. then instruct the new players to complete certain tasks by following a bot around a map. this way they get to see what it is theyre about to learn and then can perform the action for themselves. i'd go through literally everything, from fitting suits and vehicles, basic combat controls, vehicle controls, equipment usage, to explaining game modes, how to hack and counter hack objectives, reviving players to avoid getting cloned out, how weapon profiles work vs armor and shield resistances. their should be obstical courses for vehicles to learn the controls and a firing range that literally has you fire every weapon in the game against bots. all that stuff is what should make up the "academy" that new players should be placed in when they first start. plenty of fps do it that way... Tribes, Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty, Halo. its like an industry standard these days, and ccp somehow thinks theyre either exempt or too good to follow established industry practices.
DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 171	Posted - 2014.01.04 04:50:00 - [73] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The current issues with matchmaking needs to be fixed, ambush needs to go vehicle free, smart spawning needs to check how many people are dying in an area. Some smart spawn areas are just horrible, and definite teiricide. I was never a supporter of segregating part of the player-base from any particular mode, but now I eally do think vehicles should be kept out of ambush. Regarding ambush spawns, its broken, and it has ALWAYS been broken for over a year. CCP demonstrated that they can't make it work after all this time, and they need to replace the spawn system completely. I totally agree with the need for tiercide. For ambush it might be good to get rid of smart deploy completely. Put in the MCC and redlines let people drop in and try to fight out from the redline and deploy uplinks for better spawn positions. Also how much vacation did ccp get for holidays? most people here in the US only had 3 days. for ambush we should all just spawn in from up in the sky and drop in where ever we want.
APOPHIS Xxx The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 23	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:08:00 - [74] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?! Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
Mithridates VI Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2508	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:21:00 - [75] - Quote APOPHIS Xxx wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?! Or they could totally ignore you and still do okay. Please refrain from utilizing such inflammatory sarcasm in the future. GÇö CCP Eterne
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 1756	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:21:00 - [76] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points: - Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet. - The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. - These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated. Then get your acts together and we will only have good feedback. Why can't you guys see the importance of this? One set of matches could ruin an entire NPE experience. So about those vehicle locks...
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 79	Posted - 2014.01.04 06:35:00 - [77] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. And you just spelled out doom for any new players there Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1421	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:01:00 - [78] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: KingBabar wrote: Removing vehicles from Ambush? I Dunno, I spend enough time on foot trying to find anything to shoot at. The maps are too big compared to playercount. Either rewamp the game mode and make smaller maps or bring a higher player Count -which probably won't work. Or at least let us keep the LAVs or future hoverbikes or whatnot, I'm tired of running... The combination of todays huge maps, low player Count and no vehicles will be very boring indeed. I can't walk 3 feet from spawn without getting shot at yesterday. The maps are immensely small with no place to really hide. I agree that vehicles need to be removed. But open your eyes with the maps. THEY ARE TREMENDOUSLY BIG. You die quickly because sometimes the smart deploys don't switch when the enemy team is camping it. vehicles need to be removed, and then the map size should be reduced to something not much bigger then a large map socket. This would create enough space for people to find breathing room, but keep it small it enough so that its easy to find action. I have two problems with dust right now. Its getting raped by tank spam, and running a marathon between each red berry if im on the tank spamming teams side. Occasionally I can find a good little kill zone, but most times im running in ambush. Running from tanks, or running to find infantry. Marston VC, STB Director
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1421	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:03:00 - [79] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Whoa, whoa whoa. - No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays. And you just spelled out doom for any new players there They were set back probably two weeks thanks to the holidays. A two week delay isn't a big deal. Not when the last 7 updates have been on a monthly schedule. Marston VC, STB Director
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1421	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:05:00 - [80] - Quote APOPHIS Xxx wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?! ive put 270 dollars into this game and im not complaining about anything I like how this game has improved. Anyone whos whining now just doesn't have the foresight to see that things will get better over time. Marston VC, STB Director

APOPHIS Xxx The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 23	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:37:00 - [81] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: APOPHIS Xxx wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?! Or they could totally ignore you and still do okay. As I said, "you are easily pleased" How about we just ignore you and have things done better than okay. Win or lose....I bring out the best in you!
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 82	Posted - 2014.01.04 07:55:00 - [82] - Quote Marston VC wrote: APOPHIS Xxx wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: True Adamance wrote: Please fix it so new players have a chance at enjoying this game before assholes like me who wont get off their mains and who enjoy running triple damage module high EHP armour fits absolutely ruin the game for them. I cannot understand why public matches aren't tiered and why isn't their a decent new player experience. I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them. Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?! ive put 270 dollars into this game and im not complaining about anything I like how this game has improved. Anyone whos whining now just doesn't have the foresight to see that things will get better over time. T R U E Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:01:00 - [83] - Quote All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin'
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1425	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:20:00 - [84] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' That's also true. Marston VC, STB Director

CCP Saberwing C C P C C P Alliance 638	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:22:00 - [85] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. CCP Saberwing // DUST 514 Community Manager // @kanafchian

DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES 172	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:41:00 - [86] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. when has not being ready stopped you from pushing stuff out the door? You gave us FW without team deploy or the ability to select districts to attack or defend, and hell, the game itself wasnt even ready but you released it anyways. why not do it with PvE and just release it? at least we'd have it, which at this point is better than not having it and being stuck with the current affairs. plus, having PvE now gives new players something to do other than get stomped for 6 months straight while trying to figure the game out.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 83	Posted - 2014.01.04 08:44:00 - [87] - Quote DeathwindRising wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. when has not being ready stopped you from pushing stuff out the door? You gave us FW without team deploy or the ability to select districts to attack or defend, and hell, the game itself wasnt even ready but you released it anyways. why not do it with PvE and just release it? at least we'd have it, which at this point is better than not having it and being stuck with the current affairs. plus, having PvE now gives new players something to do other than get stomped for 6 months straight while trying to figure the game out. CCP Saberwing, no disrespect, but he does have a valid point. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Tends to flip the table when seeing the words: YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 514	Posted - 2014.01.04 10:04:00 - [88] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. The "Road Map" needed a re-map a year & 1/2 ago....... It's as if you all work in order of operations according to "Murphy's Law". You start everyone off on a Worst Case Scenario baseline, then try to top that. Some then scurry about frantically trying to fix the Hell, while the rest are deer caught in headlights. All while the Marketing & Monetization Teams are spamming "SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!" as they start stripping away the $ Value of Offers while promoting obscurities for purchase as if they had an expiration date.......... To think that the simple concept of Player Retension & Core Function could slip passed the "Radars" has me utterly baffled. New Player Experience was, and still is, "Try &/or Die". Not having Vehicle Locks in a Risk/Reward Game left Pilots suffering to the point of Toxicity. Strafe Speed changes left the Scout Suit in a bad way. Heavies were forced to Homogenize & either be a Forger or pick up an AR..... "Medium or Bust" became DUST. Content is constantly being subtracted. Maps started being designed on Sim City SNES.........& the 1 thing that could have essentially alleviated the vast majority of issues, PvE, was put on the Backburner.....as an afterthought.....in a supposed MMO.....from a Studio who is "Specializes" in MMO..... (Market Stat Anomalies in abundance......) Care to elaborate on the line of thought that went into the pathing of these decisions??? I'd love for the chance to pry into the collective mind of a Dysfunctional Beehive
JF duBre Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:12:00 - [89] - Quote So why matchmaking? Are there enough players for a perfect matchmaking and enough battles to chose from? Let the players chose between levels (bronze, silver, gold, platin) and just take care that you can't play bronze with proto gear or platin with militia gear. The higher the level, the higher the rewards of ISK and probably salvage. We had this while playing Mass Effect 3 and it worked.
Marad''er Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.01.04 12:19:00 - [90] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. The "Road Map" needed a re-map a year & 1/2 ago....... It's as if you all work in order of operations according to "Murphy's Law". You start everyone off on a Worst Case Scenario baseline, then try to top that. Some then scurry about frantically trying to fix the Hell, while the rest are deer caught in headlights. All while the Marketing & Monetization Teams are spamming "SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!" as they start stripping away the $ Value of Offers while promoting obscurities for purchase as if they had an expiration date.......... To think that the simple concept of Player Retension & Core Function could slip passed the "Radars" has me utterly baffled. New Player Experience was, and still is, "Try &/or Die". Not having Vehicle Locks in a Risk/Reward Game left Pilots suffering to the point of Toxicity. Strafe Speed changes left the Scout Suit in a bad way. Heavies were forced to Homogenize & either be a Forger or pick up an AR..... "Medium or Bust" became DUST. Content is constantly being subtracted. Maps started being designed on Sim City SNES.........& the 1 thing that could have essentially alleviated the vast majority of issues, PvE, was put on the Backburner.....as an afterthought.....in a supposed MMO.....from a Studio who is "Specialized" in MMO..... (Market Stat Anomalies in abundance......) Care to elaborate on the line of thought that went into the pathing of these decisions??? I'd love for the chance to pry into the collective mind of a Dysfunctional Beehive GO NINJA! GO NINAJA! GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 4 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY

Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1477	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:43:00 - [91] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. A few months ago CCP said PvE is on hold for now. Are you already working on it again? We saw so many trailers with mercs fighting drones and so on. And PvE, no matter how much stuff would be there to be fixed, would make Dust a lot better. And if it's only for the point to give newbros something to do where they aren't killed every 5 seconds. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11543	Posted - 2014.01.04 14:46:00 - [92] - Quote CPM is working with CCP on the new roadmap, the current road map is wrapping up and somethings are getting cut off unfortunately but may see itself in the next one as primary objectives. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1426	Posted - 2014.01.04 18:29:00 - [93] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. PvE done right(i.e. intimately connected to supporting PvP) will be great and a valuable addition to DUST and New Eden. But contrary to Ninjanomyx's statement, PvE does not solve all things. It cannot be a work-around for seemingly intractable problems with the matchmaker. The analogy would be putting aim assist on top of awkward aiming controls. In the end it won't satisfy anybody, except perhaps the uninitiated or the perpetually unobservant - these are not markets to build a game around. Imo matchmaker needs to be made good and be able to stand on it's own two feet, only then is it time for PvE. I support SP rollover.
Minako Nakajima Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo 55	Posted - 2014.01.04 19:20:00 - [94] - Quote No tier or skill matching... just barebones matchmaking... "Looks can kill." // Terminally Insane
George Moros Area 514 227	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:24:00 - [95] - Quote Concerning the whole matchmaking, tiering and protostomping issue... I already said this a couple of times, so I'll say it again in this thread: This game desperately needs to display ISK damage lost / inflicted after the battle. Although at first glance this feature doesn't have any relation to matchmaking and protostomping problem, it indirectly does very much so. If some new player gets very frustrated after doing a 1-10 score in u pub match against proto squads (and they do), their anger may be significantly relieved if they realize that they actually inflicted more ISK damage with that single kill then they lost by dying 10 times. After all, what separates DUST from other shooters is the permanent loss mechanics, which makes shooting people much more meaningful. This permanent loss is manifested in lost ISK, not number of deaths. Display it after the battle. This had to be in the game from day one. Pulvereus ergo queritor.
ARC34 The Game of Clones 12	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:51:00 - [96] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: My problems with matchmaking. I get thrown into battles with uneven teams, in fact I had 3 v 9, and a 4 v 2 battle yesterday. I still get battles with a full team of friendlies, but 0 enemies. In both these sorts of cases, matchmaking does not add any new players even though its clearly needed. Matchmaking has no problem adding players to battles about to end. Why does matchmaking not add players to mostly empty battles, yet add players to battles about to end? I have even seen players joining in the VICTORY/DEFEAT screen. Still fails at matching players with those of their own skill levels. If there is a squad of high skill players, match them against enemy squads of high skill players, don't throw them in with a bunch of NPC corp newbs. Please fix. I once spawned in a match 1 v 9 and for 20 minutes I was alone It was like the plot of Rambo expect help never came... never came... IT NEVER CAME Tears MY CLONE WAS SO YOUNG D: World of Tanks <.<
JF duBre Wraith Shadow Guards D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 4	Posted - 2014.01.04 20:57:00 - [97] - Quote George Moros wrote: Concerning the whole matchmaking, tiering and protostomping issue... I already said this a couple of times, so I'll say it again in this thread: This game desperately needs to display ISK damage lost / inflicted after the battle. Although at first glance this feature doesn't have any relation to matchmaking and protostomping problem, it indirectly does very much so. If some new player gets very frustrated after doing a 1-10 score in u pub match against proto squads (and they do), their anger may be significantly relieved if they realize that they actually inflicted more ISK damage with that single kill then they lost by dying 10 times. After all, what separates DUST from other shooters is the permanent loss mechanics, which makes shooting people much more meaningful. This permanent loss is manifested in lost ISK, not number of deaths. Display it after the battle. This had to be in the game from day one. I brought 4 friends to DUST and they all quit playing after a few days. They told me that it's no fun to play if you have to play a game every day for months just to have a little chance not to get slaughtered like a noob. So I tried to play with a new character and have to agree ... Battle Academy was fun because we had all militia gear. But after that ... It was a little bit frustrating. So CCP ... why should new players play this game or invest money? Btw ... How many active players do we have at DUST?
Ninjanomyx Imperfects Negative-Feedback 516	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:05:00 - [98] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. PvE done right(i.e. intimately connected to supporting PvP) will be great and a valuable addition to DUST and New Eden. But contrary to Ninjanomyx's statement, PvE does not solve all things. It cannot be a work-around for seemingly intractable problems with the matchmaker. The analogy would be putting aim assist on top of awkward aiming controls. In the end it won't satisfy anybody, except perhaps the uninitiated or the perpetually unobservant - these are not markets to build a game around. Imo matchmaker needs to be made good and be able to stand on it's own two feet, only then is it time for PvE. There is a MAJOR flaw in your "Logic"........ We've had meaningless instanced PvP for 1 & 1/4 Years. What harm could some meaningless instanced PvE do??? And to focus on Matchmaking in a Low Population Title is only asking to deteriorate the Game further, inherently forcing more Issues onto the field. Why you ask??? Did you so easily forget the "Results" of our initially strict Uprising Matchmaking??? Unplayable Matches that were improbable to Populate..... Your "Analogy" is so far off the mark that it boggles the mind to see such utterly lackluster effort to comprehend prior to responding. The addition of even a Barebones PvE Instance would instantly alleviate multiple issues, without presenting any form of hinderance. Matchmaking unfairly skewed??? Go PvE. Your Gear got Over-Nerfed & you have no backup??? Go PvE. Tired of Protostomping??? Carry Newberries in PvE. Need a break from the rage inducing competition??? "Carebear" it up in PvE. Forum Toxicity at an all time high??? Can't really be that mad when you can ESCAPE to PvE. Anyone seeing the addition of a Cooperative, Non-Competitive (Unless Scoreboard Bragging.....) Mode vs AI as a Negative is considerably clinically insane....... Not only does it provide a Fresh/New experience, Content, and an Escape........it draws in NEW PLAYERS. A very large portion of the Populace generally prefers Cooperation over Competition, & often avoid PvE Exclusive Titles altogether. You see this Gamer Type flocking to Borderlands, Demon/Dark Souls, "Insert MMORPG Here", CoD Zombies, etc. And what would the addition of a Playerbace Bolster do??? Possibly put less "Strain" on Scotty to get us past the Q Waiting Line??? Increase the "Sphere of Influence" of CCP's intended "Grassroots Approach" to Advertising by increasing the "Word of Mouth" Ratio??? Fresh faces to shoot, should they venture into PvP when they feel comfortable??? This "Escape" could very well minimize Forum QQ and the "Punishment Burden" of Over-Nerfs/Buffs, diminishing the overall "Toxicity" of the Communiy. Camraderie is easier to form when there is less "Teabagging" & "E-Peen Stroking". I could go on and on.......but I'd prefer to hear your "Rebuttal". So tell me again why I'm "Wrong"???
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1499	Posted - 2014.01.04 21:24:00 - [99] - Quote Gotta go with Ninja on this. 1) I refuse to believe a bare-bones PvE is that hard to implement: - As long as there is a disclaimer that it is bare bones in response to our feedback and a better version is coming, that will be understood. - It's not like a new weapon that needs to be tested and balanced against the others. It just needs to work without crashing or accidentally giving out billions of ISK or 10x SP. 2) Drone shooting gallery. You can use your favorite or try out weapons that you may not be familiar with against shield and armor tanked drones with x many friends. The drones move around, shoot back, maybe guard a single objective domination style if you want to get fancy. PvE implementation v1.0. Done. 2) This works to fix multiple problems with one solution: - Matchmaking is less of an issue because there is somewhere where it's impossible to be protostomped. Noobs can hide in PvE while the real fix to matchmaking takes place. New player retention increases, matchmaking becomes easier to fix with a larger player base - New content to stave off boredom while waiting for the main content like racial suits - People can play with the weapons they like but are UP - People can become more comfortable with weapons and be less frustrated when going back to PvP. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 291	Posted - 2014.01.04 23:50:00 - [100] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin' PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this! But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at. The way the devs talk about PvE makes it sound like shouldn't expect PvE for years from now... that is incredibly disappointing. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 352	Posted - 2014.01.05 01:54:00 - [101] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: For ambush it might be good to get rid of smart deploy completely. Put in the MCC and redlines let people drop in and try to fight out from the redline and deploy uplinks for better spawn positions. Or you could use a smart deploy that works. CoD's smart deploy works perfectly, it drops you behind the front lines of wherever the bulk of your team are. It shifts dynamically over the course of the match and you'll never get dropped into a mass of enemies. You can pretty much guarantee there are no enemies behind or next to you.
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 352	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:00:00 - [102] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Gotta go with Ninja on this (but with less quotation and question marks.) 1) I refuse to believe a bare-bones PvE is that hard to implement: Have you played EVE? NPC AI is almost non-existent: 1) Move towards you at all times 2) Shoot If they can't even build a matchmaking system (a form of reactive system) then how are they going to build a proper FPS AI? Even the best FPS developers on the planet have a hard time building non-sketchy AI that doesn't fall back on the old trope of "superhuman accuracy", let alone CCP. Drones would be lurching zombies that walk in a straight line spraying gunfire at the sky.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 1500	Posted - 2014.01.05 02:57:00 - [103] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: Gotta go with Ninja on this (but with less quotation and question marks.) 1) I refuse to believe a bare-bones PvE is that hard to implement: Have you played EVE? NPC AI is almost non-existent: 1) Move towards you at all times 2) Shoot If they can't even build a matchmaking system (a form of reactive system) then how are they going to build a proper FPS AI? Even the best FPS developers on the planet have a hard time building non-sketchy AI that doesn't fall back on the old trope of "superhuman accuracy", let alone CCP. Drones would be lurching zombies that walk in a straight line spraying gunfire at the sky. I'm not asking for a "proper" FPS AI right now, I'm asking for "bare bones" like I said. Some drones that bum rush you when you try to get their stuff works just fine for that. I'm not crazy, I'm not suggesting some sort of robust campaign mode to be included in 1.9. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Amarr victor!


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