I never claimed it would make them more likely to comment (or that I agree with that sort of tone), but it certainly doesn't stop them from commenting on the issue; that's my point.

Oh look, a dev post right above my post.

How do you reconcile this with the Dust's setting, New Eden, home to the most cut throat MMO ever? The learning curve in EVE is much more steep and there is potential to run into people who will faceroll you every time you load a new grid (even a cloak CovOps slowboating into scram range). We're told to HTFU in EVE.

Isn't the fact that matchmaking needs to exist in Dust at all a sign of a failure to integrate with EVE?

Whoa, whoa whoa.

Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points:

- Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet.

- The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix.

- No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays.

- These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated.

Whoa, whoa whoa.

Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points:

- Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet.

- The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix.

- No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays.

- These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated.

It's funny because those threads always get blue tags while decent threads get unanswered, so think about it...what message are you really sending out?

"Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread."

Yeah the dev post supported your argument like woah. My point is that you're ignoring the thousands of critical threads that devs didn't bother interacting with.

This is an interesting question: New Eden is meant to be harsh. But - although they both live in the space place - EVE and DUST are ultimately separate games, with different player bases and needs.

Where HTFU may be an answer to some of EVE's concerns, that doesn't always transcend over in to DUST where the nature of our player demographic (and ultimately our game) should be more accessible - particularly to newer players. That doesn't mean that there won't be situations where HTFU won't be a viable answer in DUST...we just need to make sure it's done appropriately.

I carried CCP Saberwing and CCP Frame in Ambush one night. Did not even get a thank you.

Lesson learned: I am just a means to an end

We're only using you for your skills.

I was never a supporter of segregating part of the player-base from any particular mode, but now I eally do think vehicles should be kept out of ambush.
Regarding ambush spawns, its broken, and it has ALWAYS been broken for over a year. CCP demonstrated that they can't make it work after all this time, and they need to replace the spawn system completely.
I totally agree with the need for tiercide.

Come on guys I am sure we have all been there. I didn't expect MR AMARR to get to this point though :P
I have to be honest with myself though, his point still stands.
There are a few options CCP could use to patch the system to help a little.I have no idea what small fix would be best but a few ideas have been floating around on the forums the last few months.

For ambush it might be good to get rid of smart deploy completely. Put in the MCC and redlines let people drop in and try to fight out from the redline and deploy uplinks for better spawn positions.

Also how much vacation did ccp get for holidays? most people here in the US only had 3 days.

I cannot understand why anyone thinks putting CCP X IS GARBAGE as thread title will motivate developers to pay attention to them.

Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?!

Whoa, whoa whoa.

Honestly, that sort of language really doesn't make me overly excited about interacting with this thread. BUT, to address and acknowledge some of your points:

- Matchmaking does have it's issues. I've even been in squads with some of you when it's occurred so I know that feel, bro. We're aware of it and working on a fix, but I can't give you an ETA just yet.

- The learning curve is steep, and being thrown in to matches against people who faceroll you isn't fun. We're aware of that and it's something we want to fix.

- No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays.

- These are legitimate concerns about the game and I'm hearing you. But, threatening language really doesn't entice Developer interaction. Not everybody has thick skin. :) We play and love our game to death, and want it to be fun and accessible for all kinds of players. I'll do what I can to keep you guys updated.

Whoa, whoa whoa.
- No, 1.8 is not coming this month due to the Holidays.

I can't walk 3 feet from spawn without getting shot at yesterday. The maps are immensely small with no place to really hide.

And you just spelled out doom for any new players there

Well, maybe they should! They need someone to put fire under their asses! Like they say, "The Truth Hurts". Players invested money in this fricking game! Some are not easily pleased as you are! Their hurt feelings isn't our PROBLEM! You want to hear praises?! Then give us something to praise about! Motivation.....Yes! Their leader should tell them that if they don't get their chit together, they're FIRED! How about that for motivation?!

Or they could totally ignore you and still do okay.

ive put 270 dollars into this game and im not complaining about anything

I like how this game has improved. Anyone whos whining now just doesn't have the foresight to see that things will get better over time.

All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin'

All is solved with PvE.......'jus sayin'

PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this!

But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at.

when has not being ready stopped you from pushing stuff out the door? You gave us FW without team deploy or the ability to select districts to attack or defend, and hell, the game itself wasnt even ready but you released it anyways. why not do it with PvE and just release it? at least we'd have it, which at this point is better than not having it and being stuck with the current affairs.

plus, having PvE now gives new players something to do other than get stomped for 6 months straight while trying to figure the game out.

PvE is something that we've stated numerous times publicly that we'd love to do. CCP Rouge in particular is very keen on this!

But - we don't want to rush and push something out the door if it's not ready. It might take a while, but when we do release it we want to be satisfied with where it's at.

The "Road Map" needed a re-map a year & 1/2 ago....... It's as if you all work in order of operations according to "Murphy's Law". You start everyone off on a Worst Case Scenario baseline, then try to top that. Some then scurry about frantically trying to fix the Hell, while the rest are deer caught in headlights. All while the Marketing & Monetization Teams are spamming "SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!" as they start stripping away the $ Value of Offers while promoting obscurities for purchase as if they had an expiration date..........

To think that the simple concept of Player Retension & Core Function could slip passed the "Radars" has me utterly baffled. New Player Experience was, and still is, "Try &/or Die". Not having Vehicle Locks in a Risk/Reward Game left Pilots suffering to the point of Toxicity. Strafe Speed changes left the Scout Suit in a bad way. Heavies were forced to Homogenize & either be a Forger or pick up an AR..... "Medium or Bust" became DUST. Content is constantly being subtracted. Maps started being designed on Sim City SNES.........& the 1 thing that could have essentially alleviated the vast majority of issues, PvE, was put on the Backburner.....as an afterthought.....in a supposed MMO.....from a Studio who is "Specialized" in MMO..... (Market Stat Anomalies in abundance......)

Care to elaborate on the line of thought that went into the pathing of these decisions??? I'd love for the chance to pry into the collective mind of a Dysfunctional Beehive