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TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5136	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:28:00 - [1] - Quote So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. *****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? Never forget How to fix the Logi
Eltra Ardell Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 255	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:29:00 - [2] - Quote tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3916	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:29:00 - [3] - Quote Are you high? GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3 \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5136	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:30:00 - [4] - Quote Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 11454	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:31:00 - [5] - Quote Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Rail Turret =// Unlocked
Aizen Intiki Hell's Gate Inc 604	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:38:00 - [6] - Quote Pssst. Gimmie 2 eq. slots on my Gal Scout. And the cloak. We'll be seeing real QQ then lol. "Hello, world!" lol, sounds like something a whore lover would say Alt of the great Godin I like chocolate ^___^
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2671	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:43:00 - [7] - Quote Drunk troll is Drunk? We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2167	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:45:00 - [8] - Quote Good to see another merc coming back to New Eden. Welcome back dude and best wishes for the new year. "He shouldve realized at that point I was lying as I'd already had my morning poo and I don't read newspapers." CB Vet
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2495	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:50:00 - [9] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5136	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:51:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? Uh oh, someone disagreed with Atiim. Must be a troll. Lurchasaurus wrote: Good to see another merc coming back to New Eden. Welcome back dude and best wishes for the new year. I envied your tanking in the closed beta Lurch. Cheers :D Never forget How to fix the Logi

TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5136	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:52:00 - [11] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:53:00 - [12] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? Uh oh, someone disagreed with Atiim. Must be a troll. Lurchasaurus wrote: Good to see another merc coming back to New Eden. Welcome back dude and best wishes for the new year. I envied your tanking in the closed beta Lurch. Cheers :D :) we should squad up sometime and we can do some tanks together. ill even throw ya a few tips if you're lookin for em "He shouldve realized at that point I was lying as I'd already had my morning poo and I don't read newspapers." CB Vet
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2495	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:54:00 - [13] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. Nope but I can tell you that I have been riding around in tanks since two days after 1.7 was released and have yet to be destroyed by AV grenades let alone standard ones. Also I can soak up lots of proto swarm and proto forge gun rounds without having to retreat. So yea I think any tanker with a brain can go against someone with standard AV grenades no problem. All that with 0 sp.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2168	Posted - 2013.12.28 05:57:00 - [14] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. that sounds like infantry logic.... kinda like how any infantry using an AR getting kills is godly skillz but any type of tank getting a kill ever was a scrub using OP ****, even up till days before 1.7 lolol ill tell you what i consider skill... AR guy wiping a squad and clearing a hack rail tank popping two assaulting jihad jeeps THROUGH intense lag and then killing three swarmers and a forger who jumped out with four chained shots in a row with body shots while they were strafing. (earlier lol, had to throw that plug in there) "He shouldve realized at that point I was lying as I'd already had my morning poo and I don't read newspapers." CB Vet
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2170	Posted - 2013.12.28 06:01:00 - [15] - Quote people need to realize that going 30-0 in a match does not mean you are a skilled player. it is all determined by the amount of skill required to get out of an intense engagement. You could scrape all your kills in totally easy situations and come out on top, not every engagement reflects player skill. Getting a chub from doing nothing spectacular is kinda laughable and its fun to see a lot of the people here claiming leet skillz when I distinctly remember roadkilling them multiple times in a match or grinding 3k warpoints of bolases and vehicles being called in repeatedly in the SAME SPOT "He shouldve realized at that point I was lying as I'd already had my morning poo and I don't read newspapers." CB Vet
CrotchGrab 360 1204	Posted - 2013.12.28 16:04:00 - [16] - Quote Standard AV nades? Well then they weren't exactly 5000hp double armour hardenered madrugars then were they... they were most likely somas without hardeners, and the kind of tankers who sit still whilst farming infantry and then jump out when they're done. Some people put themselves out in the open and just let their time run out, they don't care. Guaranteed nobody who you played against was trying.
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 332	Posted - 2013.12.28 16:45:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. Me too, gotta get my reload skill up but I've had good success with it. Even plinked the driver out of a moving LAV. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1371	Posted - 2013.12.28 16:51:00 - [18] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. *****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? Definitely headless tankers. No way, really. You can't solo a tank while camping on nanohives throwing standard av grenades. That tank would move as soon as armor / shield gets too low. I repeat, headless tankers. Tank 514.
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4288	Posted - 2013.12.28 16:52:00 - [19] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. ****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? I love how people are actually trying to argue this post. Like I said in another thread, I've dropped 4 tanks so far with Militia Swarms. It is literally* as easy as just waiting for their Hardeners to go down. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 1371	Posted - 2013.12.28 16:57:00 - [20] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. that sounds like infantry logic.... kinda like how any infantry using an AR getting kills is godly skillz but any type of tank getting a kill ever was a scrub using OP ****, even up till days before 1.7 lolol ill tell you what i consider skill... AR guy wiping a squad and clearing a hack rail tank popping two assaulting jihad jeeps THROUGH intense lag and then killing three swarmers and a forger who jumped out with four chained shots in a row with body shots while they were strafing. (earlier lol, had to throw that plug in there) I would consider all these situations "Luck". For me, a skilled tanker is, and I think I can name him here, Brick Tank: he doesn't look for a 1 vs 1 but is able to destroy 3 - 4 tanks in a row by outmaneuvering them. Same goes of assault. Nobody has a God-Aim. Some worse, some better but it's the maneuver that grants you a kill or a death. Mind you, the 1 vs 1 is almost always a matter of connection: the lower your ping, the greater chance to hit the target if he's strafing, the lesser chance to get hit. Tank 514.

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2053	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:01:00 - [21] - Quote +1 OP Intelligence is OP
Elmo Love U 514 Mile High Club 550	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:08:00 - [22] - Quote Killed 4 proto tanks yesterday. 3 sets of remotes, one suit. Jumped off tower,landed on roof. Click click pull. ChantsPVE PVE PVE PVE
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3181	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:15:00 - [23] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Standard AV nades? Well then they weren't exactly 5000hp double armour hardenered madrugars then were they... they were most likely somas without hardeners, and the kind of tankers who sit still whilst farming infantry and then jump out when they're done. Some people put themselves out in the open and just let their time run out, they don't care. Guaranteed nobody who you played against was trying. I rarely see good tanks, just like before 1.7... 80% of the tanks I come across are mlt, most of which are sicas that I two shot with my rail. Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 881	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:30:00 - [24] - Quote Killing ** tankers in tanks with AV doesn't mean . <-- and for clarity, all 4 of those censored words are the "s word". "oh look, I am running against horrible players in horrible tanks who know nothing about tanks or tank strategy and I can manage to kill a few of them with basic AV! GASP!**" Here's the deal - if a tanker is at least smarter than a prune, he runs stacked hardners or stacked reps. If he's smarter than a gnat, he knows not to get close enough to infantry to get in range AV grenades or RE's unless there is infantry or another tank backing it up. If he's at least semi competent with gaming in general, he'll stay in 3rd person whenever possible to make sure no one is sneaking up to toss RE's on him. And if he's at least semi competent at Dust, he runs nitro boosters and makes sure to park where he has a clear path to book it when he starts taking damage. If any tanker you killed was at LEAST semi competent and knew even the SLIGHTEST BIT what he was doing when fitting his tank, you'd not have gotten a single tank kill with basic AV. You obviously have no idea what you are saying, and I am honestly now stupider for taking the time to even try to explain this to someone who could write something like this when killing off such BS vehicles and players. Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 965	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:33:00 - [25] - Quote I easily destroy tanks as well. People hardly use there brains anymore. If its glowing don't freaken attack. Tanks were directly changed so they were forced into this new combat style. And this combat style is exactly what CCP intended. AV however is not changing because the players simply don't want to and they are losing because of it. You don't go off using a sniper rifle as a shotgun in this game. Prt SL, SCR, SR . ADV FGs, MDs, LaZor, KNs. Gunnlogi, Falchion, Python, Caldari LDS. (+require) Prt L. Am, Adv HVY, LGS
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 1345	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:34:00 - [26] - Quote Put a bunch of prox mines in their escape route and then force them over it with a plasma cannon. Works almost every time and when it doesn't they are on fire when they leave. No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
Roofer Madness Tickle My Null-Sac 721	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:38:00 - [27] - Quote Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 333	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:38:00 - [28] - Quote I think the point is, there are some good tankers who are hard to kill but the majority of the tank spam isn't on that level. Most tanks can be taken out with a bit of planning and effort. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 5153	Posted - 2013.12.28 17:44:00 - [29] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I think the point is, there are some good tankers who are hard to kill but the majority of the tank spam isn't on that level. Most tanks can be taken out with a bit of planning and effort. Pretty much this. I'm also getting some good laughs on how people are trying to argue my post when there's really nothing to argue - the fact is, the tanks died / were scared off by a lone infantryman with standard AV grenades. **** and moan all you want that it was luck. I must be a consistently lucky fellow. Never forget How to fix the Logi
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 404	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:02:00 - [30] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. ****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? I love how people are actually trying to argue this post. Like I said in another thread, I've dropped 4 tanks so far with Militia Swarms. It is literally* as easy as just waiting for their Hardeners to go down. You must be lucky to encunter tankers that let you fire two full clips of your militia SL without activating any module. You can beat stupid people with a scanner to death, but still I wouldn`t say the scanner is a viable weapon... Hav pilots that are at least not totally stupid won't fall to that mlt SL. I have killed 6 or 7 Havs with RE's but all of themwere stupid as hell or already heavily damaged by other Havs...Pilotswith a brain are nearly immune to infantry AV. The only good thing is some get careless for that reason and so you can kill them by chance.

8213 BIG BAD W0LVES 1251	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:11:00 - [31] - Quote In the 5 days I've played 1.7 I've destroyed more tanks than the rest of my previous DUST career combined. Yes, most tankers on the field are stupid, because they aren't actual tankers. They are people using FoTM exploits. People who realize that it's cheaper and more efficient to use tanks over dropsuits. The problem is, you can destroy 10+ tanks in a game, and more just keep coming. Dealing with 6 tanks at a time, non-stop is lunacy. One session of you playing a few noobs and getting lucky doesn't represent the entire situation. Fish in a bucket!
ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 318	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:15:00 - [32] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. No only Mr Zitro was Omnipotent. Tanker. Mr. Wait... ZEN 514
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2994	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:23:00 - [33] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: Killed 4 proto tanks yesterday. 3 sets of remotes, one suit. Jumped off tower,landed on roof. Click click pull. No such thing as a Proto tank, now I know you are lying. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 2994	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:25:00 - [34] - Quote Xender17 wrote: I easily destroy tanks as well. People hardly use there brains anymore. If its glowing don't freaken attack. Tanks were directly changed so they were forced into this new combat style. And this combat style is exactly what CCP intended. AV however is not changing because the players simply don't want to and they are losing because of it. You don't go off using a sniper rifle as a shotgun in this game. Here's the thing, tankers run 2-3 hardeners on and leave the second they start running out of hardeners. So unless AV can suddenly go to the redline than it is just not worth it. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:29:00 - [35] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Pssst. Gimmie 2 eq. slots on my Gal Scout. And the cloak. We'll be seeing real QQ then lol. What, need another crutch? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:30:00 - [36] - Quote Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:31:00 - [37] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Oh, so now it's good tankers. First, it's "ERRRMAGERRD, these MLT tankers are way OP!!!" Now, it's "try it on good tankers." Do you even have a consistent argument? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:35:00 - [38] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. Nope but I can tell you that I have been riding around in tanks since two days after 1.7 was released and have yet to be destroyed by AV grenades let alone standard ones. Also I can soak up lots of proto swarm and proto forge gun rounds without having to retreat. So yea I think any tanker with a brain can go against someone with standard AV grenades no problem. All that with 0 sp. So yet again, a mainline infantryman using a FOTM. I bet the only time you take out a MLT tank is when your team has the enemy team redlined, so while you can factually state that you haven't lost one to AV grenades, the conditions under which you can say that are pitiful. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:39:00 - [39] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. ****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? I love how people are actually trying to argue this post. Like I said in another thread, I've dropped 4 tanks so far with Militia Swarms. It is literally* as easy as just waiting for their Hardeners to go down. You have a brain? Why are you in RND? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2699	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:40:00 - [40] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:41:00 - [41] - Quote Elmo Love U wrote: Killed 4 proto tanks yesterday. 3 sets of remotes, one suit. Jumped off tower,landed on roof. Click click pull. We don't have PRO tanks. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:42:00 - [42] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Killing ** tankers in tanks with AV doesn't mean . <-- and for clarity, all 4 of those censored words are the "s word". "oh look, I am running against horrible players in horrible tanks who know nothing about tanks or tank strategy and I can manage to kill a few of them with basic AV! GASP!**" Here's the deal - if a tanker is at least smarter than a prune, he runs stacked hardners or stacked reps. If he's smarter than a gnat, he knows not to get close enough to infantry to get in range AV grenades or RE's unless there is infantry or another tank backing it up. If he's at least semi competent with gaming in general, he'll stay in 3rd person whenever possible to make sure no one is sneaking up to toss RE's on him. And if he's at least semi competent at Dust, he runs nitro boosters and makes sure to park where he has a clear path to book it when he starts taking damage. If any tanker you killed was at LEAST semi competent and knew even the SLIGHTEST BIT what he was doing when fitting his tank, you'd not have gotten a single tank kill with basic AV. You obviously have no idea what you are saying, and I am honestly now stupider for taking the time to even try to explain this to someone who could write something like this when killing off such BS vehicles and players. I guess you didn't read his whole post, which is not surprising for someone with the bare minimum intelligence to go infantry. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2699	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:42:00 - [43] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Elmo Love U wrote: Killed 4 proto tanks yesterday. 3 sets of remotes, one suit. Jumped off tower,landed on roof. Click click pull. We don't have PRO tanks. I believe he's referring to a tank with PRO Modules, such as a Turret. We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:43:00 - [44] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2699	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:45:00 - [45] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Why should anyone be forced to squad with a tanker? We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1579	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:46:00 - [46] - Quote 8213 wrote: In the 5 days I've played 1.7 I've destroyed more tanks than the rest of my previous DUST career combined. Yes, most tankers on the field are stupid, because they aren't actual tankers. They are people using FoTM exploits. People who realize that it's cheaper and more efficient to use tanks over dropsuits. The problem is, you can destroy 10+ tanks in a game, and more just keep coming. Dealing with 6 tanks at a time, non-stop is lunacy. One session of you playing a few noobs and getting lucky doesn't represent the entire situation. So you can't deal with 6 tanks that don't know where you're firing from? Or do you try it with blaster so all of them know where you are? Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 98	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:55:00 - [47] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. I have found the Plasma cannon Useless. Although I really stink at this game.
TunRa Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 278	Posted - 2013.12.28 18:59:00 - [48] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Standard AV nades? Well then they weren't exactly 5000hp double armour hardenered madrugars then were they... they were most likely somas without hardeners, and the kind of tankers who sit still whilst farming infantry and then jump out when they're done. Some people put themselves out in the open and just let their time run out, they don't care. Guaranteed nobody who you played against was trying. The tank you described has no rep, so once his hardeners go down what is stopping you from killing him? Thanks CCP Foxfour
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 335	Posted - 2013.12.28 19:04:00 - [49] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. Welcome back bud, but in all fairness, outsmarting a rock is what you did by the sound of it. I'm not one that agrees with the QQing about tank spam as in the main it's fun to go hunting noob tankers, but claiming what you did was skillful with the auld nanohives and grenades trick, basics at that, is like going around saying how great ya are by beating a one legged person in a sprint. Nice troll
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 335	Posted - 2013.12.28 19:10:00 - [50] - Quote Now if ya said ya went out there with flux and swarms, plasma cannon and remotes, etc., I'd tip my hat to ya.

Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1821	Posted - 2013.12.28 19:27:00 - [51] - Quote TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. ****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? Try using those Standard AV Grenades on my Gunnlogi. 725 0.4 * 0.8 damage lowered to about 0 after regen. FGs only get me if I stay still like an idiot and I can double harden and wipe them off the map along with most militia tanks and poorly fit standard tanks. Several forges firing at once, a well fit STD HAV, RE LAVs and my own idiocy still do me in a fair amount, though. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 267	Posted - 2013.12.28 19:27:00 - [52] - Quote TunRa wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Standard AV nades? Well then they weren't exactly 5000hp double armour hardenered madrugars then were they... they were most likely somas without hardeners, and the kind of tankers who sit still whilst farming infantry and then jump out when they're done. Some people put themselves out in the open and just let their time run out, they don't care. Guaranteed nobody who you played against was trying. The tank you described has no rep, so once his hardeners go down what is stopping you from killing him? Usually A. him being halfway across the map by the time that happens B. Another tank with hardners still active coming up and suppressing during his cooldown .... or C. Enemy Infantry looking for scraps ..... Mostly B or C. No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 884	Posted - 2013.12.28 20:01:00 - [53] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Killing ** tankers in tanks with AV doesn't mean . <-- and for clarity, all 4 of those censored words are the "s word". "oh look, I am running against horrible players in horrible tanks who know nothing about tanks or tank strategy and I can manage to kill a few of them with basic AV! GASP!" Here's the deal - if a tanker is at least smarter than a prune, he runs stacked hardners or stacked reps. If he's smarter than a gnat, he knows not to get close enough to infantry to get in range AV grenades or RE's unless there is infantry or another tank backing it up. If he's at least semi competent with gaming in general, he'll stay in 3rd person whenever possible to make sure no one is sneaking up to toss RE's on him. And if he's at least semi competent at Dust, he runs nitro boosters and makes sure to park where he has a clear path to book it when he starts taking damage. If any tanker you killed was at LEAST semi competent and knew even the SLIGHTEST BIT what he was doing when fitting his tank, you'd not have gotten a single tank kill with basic AV. You obviously have no idea what you are saying, and I am honestly now stupider for taking the time to even try to explain this to someone who could write something like this when killing off such BS vehicles and players. I guess you didn't read his whole post, which is not surprising for someone with the bare minimum intelligence to go infantry. Actually, I did. His basic premise, in his own words (snipped a bit for clarity), is: Quote:** Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. [.....] In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank [.....] to drop a nanohive and [.....] managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV [.....] Still managed to make tanks run away [.....] or blow up the ones too stupid to move. [.....] if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades [.....] can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? Apart from being generous enough to suggest that militia tanks might be too affordable for their effectiveness, there is no reason whatsoever to suggest anything other than what I said about his post. Perhaps you should re-read it. As for your attempt at cheap shots on my intelligence.... yeah.... Buff passive scans & fix TTK! My Closed Beta Alts - Overlord Ulath, Overlord Bosse, Overlord Zero
Roofer Madness Tickle My Null-Sac 721	Posted - 2013.12.28 20:51:00 - [54] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Kane Fyea Scions of Athra 2513	Posted - 2013.12.28 21:10:00 - [55] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... You deserve a +1 for that lol although I have seen proto suits go and change their suit to a cheaper one at a supply depot when I've almost killed them.
Munin-Frey Fish Spotters Inc. 39	Posted - 2013.12.28 21:17:00 - [56] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: Eltra Ardell wrote: tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. This
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 337	Posted - 2013.12.28 21:20:00 - [57] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote: So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about. Holy ** you guys must be terrible AV'ers. In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. ****. Grenades. No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now. I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? I love how people are actually trying to argue this post. Like I said in another thread, I've dropped 4 tanks so far with Militia Swarms. It is literally* as easy as just waiting for their Hardeners to go down. Lol, you've actually turned yourself into an idiot with your above statement. Just because either you, the OP, others, managed to take out some tanks with cheap gear, is NOT indicative of the general basic skill level of tankers, be they part-time or fulltime. It's absolute stupidity to suggest militia swarms, or basic grenades paired with a nanohive, are effective AV options. Just because ye managed to take out some thumb suckers!!!! Ye lot have played this game long enough to know better. There are plenty of effective low SP and ISK options for popping tanks, try learning them.
Munin-Frey Fish Spotters Inc. 40	Posted - 2013.12.28 21:29:00 - [58] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. I have found the Plasma cannon Useless. Although I really stink at this game. The plasma cannon can be used but only in conjunction with something else... Tanks are too fast to get a second shot off unless they are stupid. Also, they can't be shooting you or else you will die and they will live. Tanks currently can be killed by: 1) other tanks 2) dumb tankers/luck 3) a team of AV infantry 4) somebody who doesn't mind playing several matches running around setting up traps and generally wasting time to get a solo tank kill rather than just getting into their own tank. It doesn't matter what kind of AV you are using some are better than others depending on circumstance. The PLC is best against shield tanks before the hardeners are on. PLC = long reload times, low amount of ammo, high alpha, splash for infantry, dumbfire, no blue target on you, high CPU to fit, and a very slow projectile that drops over distance.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1581	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:14:00 - [59] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Why should anyone be forced to squad with a tanker? Then be destroyed by a squad of tankers. Not my problem. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1581	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:22:00 - [60] - Quote Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1582	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:26:00 - [61] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Roofer Madness Tickle My Null-Sac 726	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:32:00 - [62] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? Are you talking about a tanker or some fool with a militia tank? Because the 2 are very different things. We have some tankers in the corp. So if they're not online I'm just supposed to not play the game??? The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Roofer Madness Tickle My Null-Sac 726	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:34:00 - [63] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do. Just saw your edit. So - please explain how running a protosuit is tryhard but running a tank is not tryhard. I would love to hear this. Both offer an advantage over your enemy through ISK. Both are not guaranteed wins. Both can be killed by militia gear. And for the record I save my Protos for PC 99% of the time. Unless I'm feeling frisky. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1583	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:49:00 - [64] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things: 1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP. Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do. Just saw your edit. So - please explain how running a protosuit is tryhard but running a tank is not tryhard. I would love to hear this. Both offer an advantage over your enemy through ISK. Both are not guaranteed wins. Both can be killed by militia gear. And for the record I save my Protos for PC 99% of the time. Unless I'm feeling frisky. edit: I promise you that anyone advocating Plasma Cannon (hence my sig) is not trying very hard at all.... Well not in the negative sense anyways. I want you to explain how running a tank is being a try-hard. I was tanking before Uprising. Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
Roofer Madness Tickle My Null-Sac 727	Posted - 2013.12.28 22:55:00 - [65] - Quote Come on man. If you've been around that long then you know anyone who uses anything but a Dragonfly BPO or militia starter fit is a tryhard.... Or at least that seems to be the consensus. All I am saying is that if protosuits are tryhard gear then tanks are the tryhard vehicle. You are literally paying ISK for an advantage over poor noobs. That's all it is. Can't we all just agree that Aurum **** is the only real tryhardy thing in this game and move about with our day? The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 335	Posted - 2013.12.28 23:23:00 - [66] - Quote I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2717	Posted - 2013.12.28 23:24:00 - [67] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness. You mean the Unholy Legion of DarkStar? ...
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 335	Posted - 2013.12.28 23:28:00 - [68] - Quote Atiim wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness. You mean the Unholy Legion of DarkStar? Apparently I didn't let the name scroll enough. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3003	Posted - 2013.12.29 00:31:00 - [69] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV. That's the most backwards logic I've ever heard of. Why go from an easier medium to a harder medium if you were trying to go for an easier solution. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior.
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 341	Posted - 2013.12.29 00:36:00 - [70] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Atiim wrote: Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV. That's the most backwards logic I've ever heard of. Why go from an easier medium to a harder medium if you were trying to go for an easier solution. I'm not sure of Atiim's history, but there are plenty of circumstances where you won't be in a position to call in a tank, but going infantry AV is perfect due to the supply depot beside you.

Gelan Corbaine Gladiators Vanguard 270	Posted - 2013.12.29 00:36:00 - [71] - Quote It's Spkr logic is not his strong suit . No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
Oxskull Duncarino Tickle My Null-Sac 341	Posted - 2013.12.29 00:38:00 - [72] - Quote Gelan Corbaine wrote: It's Spkr logic is not his strong suit . I've noticed that in his many, many, many posts. I'll give him credit though, he does try
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 337	Posted - 2013.12.29 00:53:00 - [73] - Quote Suanar Daranaus wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. I have found the Plasma cannon Useless. Although I really stink at this game. If it's a rout and theres blaster tanks every your not going to accomplish much. If you can sneak up on one, between av nades, and the PC you got a good chance. Add in prox mines or RE's and even easier. But I also enjoy making difficult shots with the PC so that helps too. Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1435	Posted - 2013.12.29 01:03:00 - [74] - Quote To Spkr DUST514 is a RTS, not a FPS. Denial much.. He would have loved being in closed beta. when all the mmo players were trying to keep out the FPS players from dust... lol and "mmo/fps" was being thrown around like rice in a wedding. EDIT: They kinda won eh? keeping the FPS players out.


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