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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:29:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Pssst. Gimmie 2 eq. slots on my Gal Scout. And the cloak. We'll be seeing real QQ then lol. What, need another crutch?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be.
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:31:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Oh, so now it's good tankers. First, it's "ERRRMAGERRD, these MLT tankers are way OP!!!" Now, it's "try it on good tankers."
Do you even have a consistent argument?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:35:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Eltra Ardell wrote:tl;dr: I played against braindead cargo culters and am wondering why I did well. Get a ladder and get on my level. Say what you will. There's a pile of dead tanks under my feet, and it's thanks to standard AV grenades. Go against tankers with a brain then come and say you can destroy tanks with standard av grenades. Either they were horrible or you're lying. Or, perhaps, I'm the one who was good and managed to outsmart the tankers? Can't be possible though, since all tankers are apparently omnipotent, and any one that dies is terrible. Nope but I can tell you that I have been riding around in tanks since two days after 1.7 was released and have yet to be destroyed by AV grenades let alone standard ones. Also I can soak up lots of proto swarm and proto forge gun rounds without having to retreat. So yea I think any tanker with a brain can go against someone with standard AV grenades no problem. All that with 0 sp. So yet again, a mainline infantryman using a FOTM.
I bet the only time you take out a MLT tank is when your team has the enemy team redlined, so while you can factually state that you haven't lost one to AV grenades, the conditions under which you can say that are pitiful.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:39:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:So yea, my brother got me back for the PS3 I gave him about a month ago by getting me a new one. Decided to log onto my 4.7m SP alt to see what all the tank QQ is about.
Holy **** you guys must be terrible AV'ers.
In just about every round I played, I managed to get close enough to a tank (using my STD / ADV Minmatar Logi) to drop a nanohive and, if not set everything on fire, managed to blow up tank after tank with standard AV grenades. Standard. *******. Grenades.
No SP in vehicles or any form of AV weaponry. Doesn't even have all of his core skills up to snuff. Still managed to make tanks run away like a bat outta hell, or blow up the ones too stupid to move. Had other people been throwing AV grenades, there'd be a lot more dead tanks than there are now.
I will admit that militia tanks are way too efficient for their price, but good god, you AV'ers had it so good for so long. Is the river of tears being formed from the fact that you have no idea what to do with yourselves now that tanks may require a bit more effort to blow up than sneezing in their general direction? I was basing my earlier posts on what I was reading from other people when I said that a tank should be easily killed by other tanks, but seriously, if a 4.7m logi with standard grenades and some semblance of game knowledge can do it, why the hell are you crying with your proficiency 5 forge? I love how people are actually trying to argue this post. Like I said in another thread, I've dropped 4 tanks so far with Militia Swarms. It is literally as easy as just waiting for their Hardeners to go down. You have a brain? Why are you in RND?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:41:00 -
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Elmo Love U wrote:Killed 4 proto tanks yesterday. 3 sets of remotes, one suit. Jumped off tower,landed on roof. Click click pull. We don't have PRO tanks.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:42:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Killing **** tankers in **** tanks with **** AV doesn't mean ****. <-- and for clarity, all 4 of those censored words are the "s word".
"oh look, I am running against horrible players in horrible tanks who know nothing about tanks or tank strategy and I can manage to kill a few of them with basic AV! **GASP!**"
Here's the deal - if a tanker is at least smarter than a prune, he runs stacked hardners or stacked reps. If he's smarter than a gnat, he knows not to get close enough to infantry to get in range AV grenades or RE's unless there is infantry or another tank backing it up. If he's at least semi competent with gaming in general, he'll stay in 3rd person whenever possible to make sure no one is sneaking up to toss RE's on him. And if he's at least semi competent at Dust, he runs nitro boosters and makes sure to park where he has a clear path to book it when he starts taking damage.
If any tanker you killed was at LEAST semi competent and knew even the SLIGHTEST BIT what he was doing when fitting his tank, you'd not have gotten a single tank kill with basic AV.
You obviously have no idea what you are saying, and I am honestly now stupider for taking the time to even try to explain this to someone who could write something like this when killing off such BS vehicles and players. I guess you didn't read his whole post, which is not surprising for someone with the bare minimum intelligence to go infantry.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:43:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:46:00 -
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8213 wrote:In the 5 days I've played 1.7 I've destroyed more tanks than the rest of my previous DUST career combined.
Yes, most tankers on the field are stupid, because they aren't actual tankers. They are people using FoTM exploits. People who realize that it's cheaper and more efficient to use tanks over dropsuits.
The problem is, you can destroy 10+ tanks in a game, and more just keep coming. Dealing with 6 tanks at a time, non-stop is lunacy.
One session of you playing a few noobs and getting lucky doesn't represent the entire situation.
So you can't deal with 6 tanks that don't know where you're firing from? Or do you try it with blaster so all of them know where you are?
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker.
Why should anyone be forced to squad with a tanker? Then be destroyed by a squad of tankers. Not my problem.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:22:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:26:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time?
So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches.
I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Spkr4theDead
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:49:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time. 2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do. Just saw your edit. So - please explain how running a protosuit is tryhard but running a tank is not tryhard. I would love to hear this. Both offer an advantage over your enemy through ISK. Both are not guaranteed wins. Both can be killed by militia gear. And for the record I save my Protos for PC 99% of the time. Unless I'm feeling frisky. edit: I promise you that anyone advocating Plasma Cannon (hence my sig) is not trying very hard at all.... Well not in the negative sense anyways. I want you to explain how running a tank is being a try-hard. I was tanking before Uprising.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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