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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:26:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time.
2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... 
How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time?
So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches.
I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Roofer Madness
Tickle My Null-Sac
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:32:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time.
2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time?
Are you talking about a tanker or some fool with a militia tank? Because the 2 are very different things. We have some tankers in the corp. So if they're not online I'm just supposed to not play the game???
The Dust 514 AFK song
Plasma Cannon FTW
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Roofer Madness
Tickle My Null-Sac
726
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:34:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time.
2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do.
Just saw your edit. So - please explain how running a protosuit is tryhard but running a tank is not tryhard. I would love to hear this. Both offer an advantage over your enemy through ISK. Both are not guaranteed wins. Both can be killed by militia gear.
And for the record I save my Protos for PC 99% of the time. Unless I'm feeling frisky.
The Dust 514 AFK song
Plasma Cannon FTW
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1583
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:49:00 -
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Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Roofer Madness wrote:Look, at much as people want to fight the fact, when one certain item is constantly spammed by noobs and vets alike it can only mean 2 things:
1. It's new and everyone is having a laugh. The problem will sort itself out over time.
2. It's OP.
Not enough time has passed to tell for sure. I don't believe tanks are OP but I do believe they are ruining the game for a lot of people. Personally, I have a nice AV fit. But I want to shoot face damnit. They're ruining the game for people because they need a squad of 6 PRO-stomping try-hards to win, and cannot be bothered to squad with 5 infantry and 1 tanker. Yeah, I agree. Having a tanker in the squad helps tremendously. But that's not always an option. And I like how you scoff at the 6 proto tryhards when tanks are the ultimate tryhards. I don't see people running for the redline to save their suits... How is squadding with a tanker not an option at any time? So how is a style of play being a try-hard? Try-harding is running nothing but PRO gear all match, in a full squad with people also running nothing less than PRO gear, in pub matches. I really don't understand how tanking is a crutch, or being a try-hard. I've been tanking since about a month before Uprising. I'm no try-hard. It's what I do. Just saw your edit. So - please explain how running a protosuit is tryhard but running a tank is not tryhard. I would love to hear this. Both offer an advantage over your enemy through ISK. Both are not guaranteed wins. Both can be killed by militia gear. And for the record I save my Protos for PC 99% of the time. Unless I'm feeling frisky. edit: I promise you that anyone advocating Plasma Cannon (hence my sig) is not trying very hard at all....  Well not in the negative sense anyways.
I want you to explain how running a tank is being a try-hard. I was tanking before Uprising.
Infantry cries for tank changes, and they don't like them. Tell them to use vehicles, they complain, and use cars anyway
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Roofer Madness
Tickle My Null-Sac
727
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Posted - 2013.12.28 22:55:00 -
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Come on man. If you've been around that long then you know anyone who uses anything but a Dragonfly BPO or militia starter fit is a tryhard.... Or at least that seems to be the consensus.
All I am saying is that if protosuits are tryhard gear then tanks are the tryhard vehicle. You are literally paying ISK for an advantage over poor noobs. That's all it is.
Can't we all just agree that Aurum **** is the only real tryhardy thing in this game and move about with our day?
The Dust 514 AFK song
Plasma Cannon FTW
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
335
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:23:00 -
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I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
2717
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:24:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness.
You mean the Unholy Legion of DarkStar?
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
335
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Posted - 2013.12.28 23:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:I am going to say vehicle tryhards are corps that squad up in pubs then run all vehicles, like the match I just finished with Legion of unholy darkness. You mean the Unholy Legion of DarkStar?
Apparently I didn't let the name scroll enough.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
3003
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:31:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV.
That's the most backwards logic I've ever heard of. Why go from an easier medium to a harder medium if you were trying to go for an easier solution.
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
341
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:36:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Atiim wrote:Drunk troll is Drunk? No, tanker is better than you'll ever be. Are you implying that tanking requires "skill"? For you, it was always "I take out tanks with my AV," yet you had access to a Madrugar and some turrets, which implies you were so bad at tanking that the only you could destroy one was with AV. That's the most backwards logic I've ever heard of. Why go from an easier medium to a harder medium if you were trying to go for an easier solution.
I'm not sure of Atiim's history, but there are plenty of circumstances where you won't be in a position to call in a tank, but going infantry AV is perfect due to the supply depot beside you. |
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
270
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:36:00 -
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It's Spkr logic is not his strong suit .
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Oxskull Duncarino
Tickle My Null-Sac
341
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:38:00 -
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Gelan Corbaine wrote:It's Spkr logic is not his strong suit .
I've noticed that in his many, many, many posts. I'll give him credit though, he does try |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
337
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Posted - 2013.12.29 00:53:00 -
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Suanar Daranaus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Enjoying the plasma cannons newfound anti hav role. I have found the Plasma cannon Useless. Although I really stink at this game.
If it's a rout and theres blaster tanks every your not going to accomplish much. If you can sneak up on one, between av nades, and the PC you got a good chance. Add in prox mines or RE's and even easier. But I also enjoy making difficult shots with the PC so that helps too.
Henchmen21: Infantry
Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1435
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Posted - 2013.12.29 01:03:00 -
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To Spkr DUST514 is a RTS, not a FPS.
*Denial much..*
He would have loved being in closed beta. when all the mmo players were trying to keep out the FPS players from dust... lol and "mmo/fps" was being thrown around like rice in a wedding.
EDIT: They kinda won eh? keeping the FPS players out. |
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