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Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 3157	Posted - 2013.12.26 03:59:00 - [31] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: lololol, an other bpo refund thread. Should've read the terms and agreements before buying it lol... I got refunded.... did you read the OP..... moron Sorry, I didn't bother reading because of your stupid title... Lack of content makes stuff broken... Tank driver // specialized tank destroyer
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 165	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:00:00 - [32] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: lololol, an other bpo refund thread. Should've read the terms and agreements before buying it lol... I got refunded.... did you read the OP..... moron Sorry, I didn't bother reading because of your stupid title... apology accepted. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6085	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:01:00 - [33] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I'm curious. What exactly did you tell Sony? And I mean "verbatim". I want to understand the full context of how you approached Sony and somehow convinced them that CCP stole from you. And if you're any better than Yelsha "what's-his-name", you'll be able to answer my question. I explained the blue print system, how everything else is consumable, including all other items bought with aurum which can only be purchased with real money, how blueprints are no longer available, how we were promised our bpo's would not be touched, all of the unfolding history after that, and how the community's confidence in the worth of aurum is gone which , like any other currency de values it, how bpo's are no longer available, making yet again that currency worth less since the same standard of item is no longer available, and how they have even done this type of thing to their consumable aur items (contact nades) in the past.... that's as close to verbatim as you gonna get form me... they issued the credit, took 7 days or so to investigate it and I got an email, part of which I posted above.... and I can confirm the money is on my account at this moment. Hmm... interesting. Looks like you did this the easy way and actually answered my question. Now compare yourself to Yelsha who has yet to answer my question about his own case. What's funny here is that all you did was make a simple phone call to Sony to get your $10. But Yelsha for some reason decided to go take this to some British civil court which doesn't cost him anything but obviously cost quite a bit of taxpayer money. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 165	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:09:00 - [34] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I'm curious. What exactly did you tell Sony? And I mean "verbatim". I want to understand the full context of how you approached Sony and somehow convinced them that CCP stole from you. And if you're any better than Yelsha "what's-his-name", you'll be able to answer my question. I explained the blue print system, how everything else is consumable, including all other items bought with aurum which can only be purchased with real money, how blueprints are no longer available, how we were promised our bpo's would not be touched, all of the unfolding history after that, and how the community's confidence in the worth of aurum is gone which , like any other currency de values it, how bpo's are no longer available, making yet again that currency worth less since the same standard of item is no longer available, and how they have even done this type of thing to their consumable aur items (contact nades) in the past.... that's as close to verbatim as you gonna get form me... they issued the credit, took 7 days or so to investigate it and I got an email, part of which I posted above.... and I can confirm the money is on my account at this moment. Hmm... interesting. Looks like you did this the easy way and actually answered my question. Now compare yourself to Yelsha who has yet to answer my question about his own case. What's funny here is that all you did was make a simple phone call to Sony to get your $10. But Yelsha for some reason decided to go take this to some British civil court which doesn't cost him anything but obviously cost quite a bit of taxpayer money. I doubt the validity of yelsha but I wont bash him since he is on my side of the fence in this battle... I actually called them 10 days before the patch and had a ticket opened. then shortly after the patch (a few days) I called them back, gave the ticket number and spent about 30 min explaining this and answering questions. one question the operator asked me was, comparing this to diablo, since he doesn't play dust, if aur was like the use of gold vs the real money market or some such ( I didn't play diablo on PC so I don't know the finer points of it) but the meat of his question was can I get aur just by playing or is it exclusively a real money transaction. I informed him it was the latter, I also made it clear that the bpo's in question were NOT part of a package that they could only be bought on the in game dust market but only by using aur that must be purchased through psn, and that I specifically bought the aur for bpo's so an aur refund was no good since I could no longer get a bpo with aur. I refered to it as a bait and switch tactic. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6085	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:16:00 - [35] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: I informed him it was the latter, I also made it clear that the bpo's in question were NOT part of a package that they could only be bought on the in game dust market but only by using aur that must be purchased through psn, and that I specifically bought the aur for bpo's so an aur refund was no good since I could no longer get a bpo with aur. I refered to it as a bait and switch tactic. Hmm. I see. But technically there are still other options available such as consumable gear and boosters that you can still use the refunded AUR on. So really the AUR is not entirely worthless. Also, does this mean that $10 worth of AUR was removed from your account since now you got $10 worth of PSN Store Credit given to you? I mean, that can only be fair since you see that AUR is useless to you. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Draxus Prime BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder. 2220	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:21:00 - [36] - Quote I support BPO removal they are on the border of P2W GÇƒIf you try to fail at something and fail is it a fail or a success?" -Draxus Prime Closed Beta/EVE/MAG Vet Minja/Logi
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 166	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:22:00 - [37] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: I informed him it was the latter, I also made it clear that the bpo's in question were NOT part of a package that they could only be bought on the in game dust market but only by using aur that must be purchased through psn, and that I specifically bought the aur for bpo's so an aur refund was no good since I could no longer get a bpo with aur. I refered to it as a bait and switch tactic. Hmm. I see. But technically there are still other options available such as consumable gear and boosters that you can still use the refunded AUR on. So really the AUR is not entirely worthless. Also, does this mean that $10 worth of AUR was removed from your account since now you got $10 worth of PSN Store Credit given to you? I mean, that can only be fair since you see that AUR is useless to you. I just logged in for the first time in about a week to check.... its still there.... guess it was just a courtesy on sony's side? just shows what trash ccp is imo, sony just earned a lot of respect from me.... SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6085	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:25:00 - [38] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: I support BPO removal they are on the border of P2W For the record, only FOUR specific BPOs were removed. The rest are staying. Besides, it will be a technical headache for CCP to do otherwise with the others since some of the BPOs were purchased directly with cash such as the 'Templar' suits and others like the 'Toxin' AR and SMG, etc. Remember the closed-beta merc packs? Also, they were not really borderline P2W. They were just a risk to the stability of the future economy. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6085	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:26:00 - [39] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: I informed him it was the latter, I also made it clear that the bpo's in question were NOT part of a package that they could only be bought on the in game dust market but only by using aur that must be purchased through psn, and that I specifically bought the aur for bpo's so an aur refund was no good since I could no longer get a bpo with aur. I refered to it as a bait and switch tactic. Hmm. I see. But technically there are still other options available such as consumable gear and boosters that you can still use the refunded AUR on. So really the AUR is not entirely worthless. Also, does this mean that $10 worth of AUR was removed from your account since now you got $10 worth of PSN Store Credit given to you? I mean, that can only be fair since you see that AUR is useless to you. I just logged in for the first time in about a week to check.... its still there.... guess it was just a courtesy on sony's side? just shows what trash ccp is imo, sony just earned a lot of respect from me.... I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just yet. CCP does have access to that AUR of yours. It could be that they were nice enough to let you keep it despite the fact that you got your PSN store credit from Sony. Who knows? OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Mobius Wyvern Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4257	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:32:00 - [40] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. edit: slightly changed title so idiots who don't read the thread and just think its a QQ thread wont bother posting an irrelevant response. You are a trashheap, and I'd dislike you if I wasn't so busy laughing at you. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector

FAKIR REDETTa 0uter.Heaven 51	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:38:00 - [41] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Fanboys are cute
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 171	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:46:00 - [42] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: I informed him it was the latter, I also made it clear that the bpo's in question were NOT part of a package that they could only be bought on the in game dust market but only by using aur that must be purchased through psn, and that I specifically bought the aur for bpo's so an aur refund was no good since I could no longer get a bpo with aur. I refered to it as a bait and switch tactic. Hmm. I see. But technically there are still other options available such as consumable gear and boosters that you can still use the refunded AUR on. So really the AUR is not entirely worthless. Also, does this mean that $10 worth of AUR was removed from your account since now you got $10 worth of PSN Store Credit given to you? I mean, that can only be fair since you see that AUR is useless to you. I just logged in for the first time in about a week to check.... its still there.... guess it was just a courtesy on sony's side? just shows what trash ccp is imo, sony just earned a lot of respect from me.... I wouldn't jump to that conclusion just yet. CCP does have access to that AUR of yours. It could be that they were nice enough to let you keep it despite the fact that you got your PSN store credit from Sony. Who knows? well judging by their interactions with the community so far and the fact my main has been banned 2x now for BS, I doubt it. no im sure ccp had nothing to do with this, I am surprised I still have my aur, little good it is anyway since I wont be playing... SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 174	Posted - 2013.12.26 04:52:00 - [43] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. edit: slightly changed title so idiots who don't read the thread and just think its a QQ thread wont bother posting an irrelevant response. You are a trashheap, and I'd dislike you if I wasn't so busy laughing at you. so... does that mean we are still friends? SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 6087	Posted - 2013.12.26 06:10:00 - [44] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: no im sure ccp had nothing to do with this, I am surprised I still have my aur, little good it is anyway since I wont be playing... Regardless, you now have two options. Either... A) Delete your account and never play this game again. or B) Just leave your character in cold storage slowly accumulating SP passively and come back a few years from now to see how much Dust has improved. OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2737	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:10:00 - [45] - Quote Vin Mora wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. I honestly hope that your account gets banned for this. But they stolen nothing from you, CCP refunded your BPO purchase(s) and you have the same exact value that you did BEFORE you purchased the BPO(s). You effectively stolen from CCP by having Sony refund you $10, which of course is going to be billed to CCP. It's not the exact same value if the currency has no guarantee on any of its purchases, and can no longer purchase the items it was originally intended to. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2737	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:14:00 - [46] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: What the hell is wrong with you? You do realise this just makes you look like a petulant man-child right? The BPOs were not stolen, there is literally no other way to look at it - any claims to the contrary are either lies or just stupid. Plus y'know, the EULA, also known as the legally binding contract you signed - I suggest you read it next time. Angry rant over, hardly a literary masterpiece as it's around 3am for me right now. EDIT: How much AUR did you even pay for the BPOs in the first place? Cause if you got them back in the beta days when they were 30 - 40 AUR each - you're the only thief here, plain and simple. EDIT2: Toned down a bit 'cause forum bans are annoying. If LG came into my house, took my TV, and then gave me store credit for an LG store that no longer sells TVs, I'd call that theft. No.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2737	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:17:00 - [47] - Quote Draxus Prime wrote: I support BPO removal they are on the border of P2W I make something like an extra 5% more cash because of the BPOs I run. If that's P2W, those FW boosters are a far greater concern, and PC's profitability is game-breaking. No.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1042	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:33:00 - [48] - Quote Good job standing your ground. I'm glad Sony had a hand in fixing this. They have always been a decent company. CCP could have taken care of it. We had a guy who mistakenly bought the $100 crap pack instead of the dren pack. Sony had to step in there too. You can't make a company be honest. It seems Sony is just cleaning up after CCP. One of the reasons they will always have my business. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
CrotchGrab 360 1157	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:41:00 - [49] - Quote Absolute douche I don't think the Sony rep looked into the EULA or the TOS very far to see that you were in the wrong. I'm sure that somewhere in the EULA (which you agreed to) CCP reserve the right to change anything at any time and that they (and not you) own the AUR. I hope they find a clause in the paperwork and counter-claim and sue you for being a baby. After all $10 is such a great amount of money right? They would be doing it on principle, which you think you're doing, but you're not. CCP really need to bring out a new EULA, stating "ALL SALES ARE FINAL, NO REFUNDS". That's what I would do to keep snakes like you away.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1042	Posted - 2013.12.26 13:48:00 - [50] - Quote Or they could make quality products that do not change. here's something else. Free lavs. We used to get them for free. Everyone was used to having one. They then took them away and charged $100 for them. We all ate it up. No one cared. This practice is known as a taste in the drug community its how kids get hooked. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 762	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:22:00 - [51] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: What the hell is wrong with you? You do realise this just makes you look like a petulant man-child right? The BPOs were not stolen, there is literally no other way to look at it - any claims to the contrary are either lies or just stupid. Plus y'know, the EULA, also known as the legally binding contract you signed - I suggest you read it next time. Angry rant over, hardly a literary masterpiece as it's around 3am for me right now. EDIT: How much AUR did you even pay for the BPOs in the first place? Cause if you got them back in the beta days when they were 30 - 40 AUR each - you're the only thief here, plain and simple. EDIT2: Toned down a bit 'cause forum bans are annoying. If LG came into my house, took my TV, and then gave me store credit for an LG store that no longer sells TVs, I'd call that theft. Yep, shame that scenario has nothing to do with what actually happened. Going with your analogy - the LG store still sells TVs, just different models. In many cases LG gave people more store credit than they spent to begin with, and while TVs cost more, other things like phones don't. Finally, it's not like LG took a functional TV from you, they replaced took an out of date model that didn't work anymore. All in all, that sounds like pretty good service - not theft.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1042	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:29:00 - [52] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: What the hell is wrong with you? You do realise this just makes you look like a petulant man-child right? The BPOs were not stolen, there is literally no other way to look at it - any claims to the contrary are either lies or just stupid. Plus y'know, the EULA, also known as the legally binding contract you signed - I suggest you read it next time. Angry rant over, hardly a literary masterpiece as it's around 3am for me right now. EDIT: How much AUR did you even pay for the BPOs in the first place? Cause if you got them back in the beta days when they were 30 - 40 AUR each - you're the only thief here, plain and simple. EDIT2: Toned down a bit 'cause forum bans are annoying. If LG came into my house, took my TV, and then gave me store credit for an LG store that no longer sells TVs, I'd call that theft. Yep, shame that scenario has nothing to do with what actually happened. Going with your analogy - the LG store still sells TVs, just different models. In many cases LG gave people more store credit than they spent to begin with, and while TVs cost more, other things like phones don't. Finally, it's not like LG took a functional TV from you, they replaced took an out of date model that didn't work anymore. All in all, that sounds like pretty good service - not theft. taking real money and refunding in game money while the client had no clue this would happen. Most of us are just used to getting screwed by ccp. If Sony steps in and takes care of their clients more power to them. It seems to me the eulas were changed also. I remember having to re agree to access my account and things I had previously purchased. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 762	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:30:00 - [53] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Or they could make quality products that do not change. here's something else. Free lavs. We used to get them for free. Everyone was used to having one. They then took them away and charged $100 for them. We all ate it up. No one cared. This practice is known as a taste in the drug community its how kids get hooked. That's the nature of online games, things change - the free LAV thing was changed to help stop the murder taxi thing, and it's not like they're expensive. Also, that $100 thing BS - there are no discrete LAV BPOs, and the ones that cane with the old Veteran and Elite packs included rather a lot of other things, including many other BPOs.
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 150	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:38:00 - [54] - Quote Well I buy somthing for real money then that item is mine. If a producer want to recall it due to whatever the producer can't give me somthing else insted. Simple put If I buy apples and they are rutten I should get A ; new apples B ; money back Not pears insted On a others matter CCP had a sale of bpo just before removing them from the game. Then they took away the bpo and gave you aur insted. I don't know the leagal tearm in English but it's actually somthing you can take to curt in most countries regardless of the disclaimer you sighn before starting the game. Then again who drags some one to court over 10 dollars that's wy they get away with it. Regards
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1042	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:39:00 - [55] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Or they could make quality products that do not change. here's something else. Free lavs. We used to get them for free. Everyone was used to having one. They then took them away and charged $100 for them. We all ate it up. No one cared. This practice is known as a taste in the drug community its how kids get hooked. That's the nature of online games, things change - the free LAV thing was changed to help stop the murder taxi thing, and it's not like they're expensive. Also, that $100 thing BS - there are no discrete LAV BPOs, and the ones that cane with the old Veteran and Elite packs included rather a lot of other things, including many other BPOs. they did come with other things. All standard except scrambler pistol. When I bought it I got an AR to match the other five I had. A scout suit I already had. Assault suit which I had. I bought it for the lav, pistol(got took), and a heavy bpo. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 762	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:42:00 - [56] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: What the hell is wrong with you? You do realise this just makes you look like a petulant man-child right? The BPOs were not stolen, there is literally no other way to look at it - any claims to the contrary are either lies or just stupid. Plus y'know, the EULA, also known as the legally binding contract you signed - I suggest you read it next time. Angry rant over, hardly a literary masterpiece as it's around 3am for me right now. EDIT: How much AUR did you even pay for the BPOs in the first place? Cause if you got them back in the beta days when they were 30 - 40 AUR each - you're the only thief here, plain and simple. EDIT2: Toned down a bit 'cause forum bans are annoying. If LG came into my house, took my TV, and then gave me store credit for an LG store that no longer sells TVs, I'd call that theft. Yep, shame that scenario has nothing to do with what actually happened. Going with your analogy - the LG store still sells TVs, just different models. In many cases LG gave people more store credit than they spent to begin with, and while TVs cost more, other things like phones don't. Finally, it's not like LG took a functional TV from you, they replaced took an out of date model that didn't work anymore. All in all, that sounds like pretty good service - not theft. taking real money and refunding in game money while the client had no clue this would happen. Most of us are just used to getting screwed by ccp. If Sony steps in and takes care of their clients more power to them. It seems to me the eulas were changed also. I remember having to re agree to access my account and things I had previously purchased. Thing is, you didn't pay real money, you used in game money so that's what you got back. Yes you bought that in game money with the real stuff - but you could have used the AUR to buy anything, and you can us the refunded AUR to buy anything still actually in the game.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 503	Posted - 2013.12.26 14:45:00 - [57] - Quote Why don't you just leave? All you do is complain and ***** and generally be a self entitled ass. Why are you still here? Do you even play anymore? Seriously just gtfo nobody wants you around new eden.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 1043	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:08:00 - [58] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: Darken-Sol wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: What the hell is wrong with you? You do realise this just makes you look like a petulant man-child right? The BPOs were not stolen, there is literally no other way to look at it - any claims to the contrary are either lies or just stupid. Plus y'know, the EULA, also known as the legally binding contract you signed - I suggest you read it next time. Angry rant over, hardly a literary masterpiece as it's around 3am for me right now. EDIT: How much AUR did you even pay for the BPOs in the first place? Cause if you got them back in the beta days when they were 30 - 40 AUR each - you're the only thief here, plain and simple. EDIT2: Toned down a bit 'cause forum bans are annoying. If LG came into my house, took my TV, and then gave me store credit for an LG store that no longer sells TVs, I'd call that theft. Yep, shame that scenario has nothing to do with what actually happened. Going with your analogy - the LG store still sells TVs, just different models. In many cases LG gave people more store credit than they spent to begin with, and while TVs cost more, other things like phones don't. Finally, it's not like LG took a functional TV from you, they replaced took an out of date model that didn't work anymore. All in all, that sounds like pretty good service - not theft. taking real money and refunding in game money while the client had no clue this would happen. Most of us are just used to getting screwed by ccp. If Sony steps in and takes care of their clients more power to them. It seems to me the eulas were changed also. I remember having to re agree to access my account and things I had previously purchased. Thing is, you didn't pay real money, you used in game money so that's what you got back. Yes you bought that in game money with the real stuff - but you could have used the AUR to buy anything, and you can us the refunded AUR to buy anything still actually in the game. this would be a decent argument if there was another way to purchase things. If I wanted a sever suit there was no way to buy one. I had to purchase aurum then buy it. The reason I spent real money was the sever suit. Did I get real money back when they made it a racial suit. No. I got aurum. So me as a consumer had to buy a $100 pack if I wanted a bpo logistics suit I could use. Are you sensing a theme. They just keep reselling the same old garbage. And people like you allow it to happen. Me too I guess. There was a time we fought good tankers. Now we just fight good tanks.
Piraten Hovnoret No Tax Scrubs 150	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:10:00 - [59] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Absolute douche I don't think the Sony rep looked into the EULA or the TOS very far to see that you were in the wrong. I'm sure that somewhere in the EULA (which you agreed to) CCP reserve the right to change anything at any time and that they (and not you) own the AUR. I hope they find a clause in the paperwork and counter-claim and sue you for being a baby. After all $10 is such a great amount of money right? They would be doing it on principle, which you think you're doing, but you're not. CCP really need to bring out a new EULA, stating "ALL SALES ARE FINAL, NO REFUNDS". That's what I would do to keep snakes like you away. Sorry missed this one You know that even if you agree on something like the EULA the content of the EULA can be against consumer laws. The EULA is nothing more then then companies vui of the consumer laws. In Sweden we had a guy take a gaming developer to court over something just like this. And guess what he won, even tho the company claimed the al mighty EULA. The court simply said that even if there is a EULA parts of that was against Swedish consumer law then it becomes mute even if you agree on it or not. So he won got a hell of a lot more in his walet than he original asked for plus the couple of Millions in courts/lawyer costs was al put on the company tab =ƒÿé Simply put If you and me sign a contract where you want me to kill you And I do it, I will still get life sense it's against the law regardless.

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 876	Posted - 2013.12.26 15:49:00 - [60] - Quote My first thought just is that the EULA pretty much says we don't own anything and CCP can remove/change/adjust anything as they please and as such I would never spend more real money than I am ok with CCP "taking" from me. /c DUSTBoard - Mercenary sheets DUSTSearch - DUST Forum mirror




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