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Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2766	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:02:00 - [91] - Quote Atheor Sindromer wrote: You got a refund. More power to ya, but coming on the forums and posting a thread about it is just pointless and makes you seem immature if you ***** about it. It provides an example of how customer service can and should be done. I'll bet nobody at Sony squealed "EULA! EULA!" when they realised they were dealing with a genuinely disgruntled customer. No.
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 98	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:54:00 - [92] - Quote If you really got the refund then all i can say is that you deserve it and thanks for informing us that you managed to get your rights respected I personally have opened a Ticket about this since Early November when I was aware of this shady move by CCP. It took them 20 DAYS to respond, they said they would see what they can do about my request to get the BPOs EXCHANGED for other BPOs still in game. The Ticket is still open and it's been open for almost 2 months. Gratz on the OP for getting it sorted out within 7 Days and with a FULL Cash Refund And as my New Years Resolution, If CCP don't take into consideration my TICKET which has been open for around 2 MONTHS , I think i'll do the same. Peac3 DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 603	Posted - 2013.12.30 17:59:00 - [93] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. edit: slightly changed title so idiots who don't read the thread and just think its a QQ thread wont bother posting an irrelevant response. Power to the consumer!
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1814	Posted - 2013.12.30 19:08:00 - [94] - Quote Atheor Sindromer wrote: You got a refund. More power to ya, but coming on the forums and posting a thread about it is just pointless and makes you seem immature if you ***** about it. I am thankful he did, its good info for others who may want to get a refund for their stolen blueprints and realize the aur refund was not fair compensation, unless you were one of the lucky ones who only paid 40 aur for them. this game makes me sad....
Soldiersaint Deepspace Digital 637	Posted - 2013.12.30 21:39:00 - [95] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i got such a big smile on my face when i read the subject of this thread, i knew i was in for a treat and i was not wrong. laughed pretty hard. I hope they take away something of value to you. Just so i can see you rage.
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 103	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:33:00 - [96] - Quote Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. The last message from CCP to me in an Open Ticket was: "Should you wish to peruse cash alternatives than I can only suggest that you contact SONY PSN as CCP have no access to customer payments for DUST 514. Regards, Lead GM Grave CCP Customer Relations \| EVE Online \| DUST 514 " Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
straya fox Sad Panda Solutions 163	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:34:00 - [97] - Quote xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. edit: slightly changed title so idiots who don't read the thread and just think its a QQ thread wont bother posting an irrelevant response. You are a ****!
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1597	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:40:00 - [98] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i got such a big smile on my face when i read the subject of this thread, i knew i was in for a treat and i was not wrong. laughed pretty hard. And I knew it was some guy just raging because he thought his "rights" were hurt. Aurum for the Blueprints was the best CCP was able to do. Has nothing to do with stealing. But of course some people make enough of a fuzz to get what they want, like little children do. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 103	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:48:00 - [99] - Quote straya fox wrote: xLuca Brasi wrote: so I called and complained to sony for CCP's theft of my blueprints and they gave me a 10 dollar refund for 20k aur. I suggest to anyone else who wants their money instead of that worthless aur to call sony and let them know what pathetic gip bags ccp are and you want your money back... worked for me. edit: slightly changed title so idiots who don't read the thread and just think its a QQ thread wont bother posting an irrelevant response. You are a **! No that person isn't a whatever you consider them because he as a CONSUMER/CLIENT/SUPPORTER invested real cash into this project as I did to sustain CCP. This is why we have Consumer Laws which protect EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US, well at least in Europe. So if you don't like what he did, as in stand up for his rights as I did also , then this really is your OWN PROBLEM if you like getting pushed around in REAL LIFE, I personally FIGHT for EVERYTHING I love and own and use EVERYTHING in my power to protect myself from such SHADY DEALINGS as that used by CCP. Then again the world is full of losers and tryhards, people which have no idea what rights they have and constantly take it from behind, yet some of us have ballz of steel and stand our ground especially when we know we are rights. Peac3 I hope one day you'll grow some ballz too and protect your rights. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!**
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 103	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:53:00 - [100] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i got such a big smile on my face when i read the subject of this thread, i knew i was in for a treat and i was not wrong. laughed pretty hard. And I knew it was some guy just raging because he thought his "rights" were hurt. Aurum for the Blueprints was the best CCP was able to do. Has nothing to do with stealing. But of course some people make enough of a fuzz to get what they want, like little children do. You see this is where you're seriously wrong about "he thought his "rights"" he does have RIGHTS and so does everyone here. If you consider that making a "fuzz" as in standing up for your rights is wrong, well GL in the Real World cause you seriously need it... DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!

R F Gyro Clones 4u 1049	Posted - 2014.01.17 11:57:00 - [101] - Quote I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 103	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:14:00 - [102] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? What i'm sure of is that Sony recognise Consumer Rights and provide refunds due to this reason. Another thing I am sure of based upon my Open Ticket which took CCP 20 Days to respond....is that CCP had no reason whatsoever to refund their clients/consumers/supporters/players/PAYERS on an equal level. CCP don't appear to agree on Customer Satisfaction, thus the reason they wished to FORCE their own form of refund, which is TOTALLY ILLEGAL BY CONSUMER LAWS. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Karl Koekwaus 205	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:22:00 - [103] - Quote Don't be surprised if CCP bans your account. it's common to ban acounts who had a credit card chargeback, I don't see how this is different. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1597	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:23:00 - [104] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: i got such a big smile on my face when i read the subject of this thread, i knew i was in for a treat and i was not wrong. laughed pretty hard. And I knew it was some guy just raging because he thought his "rights" were hurt. Aurum for the Blueprints was the best CCP was able to do. Has nothing to do with stealing. But of course some people make enough of a fuzz to get what they want, like little children do. You see this is where you're seriously wrong about "he thought his "rights"" he does have RIGHTS and so does everyone here. If you consider that making a "fuzz" as in standing up for your rights is wrong, well GL in the Real World cause you seriously need it... He bought Aurum. He used that Aurum to get the BPOs. When the BPOs got removed he got his Aurum back. Everything was perfectly fine! And then he cried because he "only bought Aurum to buy BPOs!" So what? The initial transaction was for Aurum. He just got lucky Sony had a good day. Because everything already was in order. What he did was basically the same some people do to tech support: "You had my computer last! It's your fault now I downloaded another virus!" or people arguing with the cashier that they should accept that coupon for another store. **** like that doesn't get you very far in RL. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 156	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:29:00 - [105] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? Oh? Is that why ccp went out of their way to advertise packs that contained bpo's and told us to "get them before they're off the market"? Doesn't seem very "discouraging" to me. Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1598	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:33:00 - [106] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? Oh? Is that why ccp went out of their way to advertise packs that contained bpo's and told us to "get them before they're off the market"? Doesn't seem very "discouraging" to me. Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void. The EULA is legal if you can read it without having to buy anything. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 106	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:34:00 - [107] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? Oh? Is that why ccp went out of their way to advertise packs that contained bpo's and told us to "get them before they're off the market"? Doesn't seem very "discouraging" to me. Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void. ^ THIS DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 106	Posted - 2014.01.17 12:44:00 - [108] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: Don't be surprised if CCP bans your account. it's common to ban acounts who had a credit card chargeback, I don't see how this is different. Oh please BRING iT ON I was fair enough to ask only for a PARTIAL Refund and CCP should THANK me for this , cause I was honest enough to only request a refund based upon the amount spent to obtain said BPOs removed, a sort of "Moral Damages" Refund. The FACT is that Sony was actually willing to provide me a FULL REFUND = EVERY PACK PURCHASED for DUST So if CCP do this I will do that, NP DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1049	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:00:00 - [109] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? Oh? Is that why ccp went out of their way to advertise packs that contained bpo's and told us to "get them before they're off the market"? Doesn't seem very "discouraging" to me. Eh? Out of all I wrote you chose to pick up on "discouraging BPO ownership"? You could remove everything in that sentence after "comfortable with this" and it wouldn't affect my point at all. Quote: Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void. By "you people" I assume you are addressing other people rather than me, so this paragraph is not in response to my post. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 2	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:17:00 - [110] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 You're goofy. The Captain of THE-TITANS and proud Militia Pub Stomper.

NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 106	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:24:00 - [111] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 You're goofy. If this is the word you use to describe a person which fights for their rights and wins, then ok fine, i can live with that. DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 2	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:27:00 - [112] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 You're goofy. If this is the word you use to describe a person which fights for their rights and wins, then ok fine, i can live with that. That's not the case of why I'm using that word. The fact that you bumped someone else's old thread to share your own problems is goofy enough. The Captain of THE-TITANS and proud Militia Pub Stomper.
NomaDz 2K The Rainbow Effect 106	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:37:00 - [113] - Quote Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 You're goofy. If this is the word you use to describe a person which fights for their rights and wins, then ok fine, i can live with that. That's not the case of why I'm using that word. The fact that you bumped someone else's old thread to share your own problems is goofy enough. Ye sure whateva kid... The point is this is an UPDATE on the situation, it's also proving that WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS, this is why SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED - CAUSE WE HAVE RIGHTS Then again your Character is Amarr I guess U don't agree with equal rights and are all for SLAVERY Peac3 DON'T SPEND CA$H ON DUST 514 CCP WILL ONLY GIVE YOU AUR AFTER THEY REMOVE YOUR BPOs WHICH U SPENT REAL MONGé¼Y ON!
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 2	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:56:00 - [114] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Vapor Forseti wrote: NomaDz 2K wrote: Well it appears that Sony have more consideration for us than CCP think and their EULA, this is mainly due to the fact that CONSUMER LAWS Protect us against SHADY DEALING which CCP have IMPLEMENTED in their ways of doing business towards their Clients as in Supporters, those of us which INVESTED REAL MONEY in their project. I personally tried hard to reach an Agreement with CCP, I asked them to EXCHANGE my BPOs which were being removed for 1 BPO Dropsuit which was still in game since I didn't wish to have an AUR refund forced upon me , I PAID Real Money just to obtain the BPOs in question and they said they do not intend to do this. CCP openly stating to me that I should contact Sony if I expect a CASH REFUND. Well this is exactly what I did and I too within 7 Days gained a Refund directly from Sony. Good Luck CCP in tring to MILK CASH out of people, i'll still play your game but please take time to read my Sig....and stick that up your EULA the next time you try to rip people off, remember Consumer Laws PROTECT us CCP Peac3 You're goofy. If this is the word you use to describe a person which fights for their rights and wins, then ok fine, i can live with that. That's not the case of why I'm using that word. The fact that you bumped someone else's old thread to share your own problems is goofy enough. Ye sure whateva kid... The point is this is an UPDATE on the situation, it's also proving that WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS, this is why SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED - CAUSE WE HAVE RIGHTS Then again your Character is Amarr I guess U don't agree with equal rights and that you're all for SLAVERY "to share your own problems is goofy enough." I got REFUNDED CORRECTLY NOW, so I don't have ANY PROBLEMS but you appear to have issues and i got the tissues for U baby Peac3 I'm an Amarr who spec'd into Gallente Logistics who fights with a Minmatarian Combat Rifle who grinds with Caldari Militia dropsuits. I don't have issues. Your point is invalid. The Captain of THE-TITANS and proud Militia Pub Stomper.
Vapor Forseti THE-TITANS 2	Posted - 2014.01.17 13:58:00 - [115] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: Ye sure whateva kid... The point is this is an UPDATE on the situation, it's also proving that WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS, this is why SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED - CAUSE WE HAVE RIGHTS Then again your Character is Amarr I guess U don't agree with equal rights and that you're all for SLAVERY "to share your own problems is goofy enough." I got REFUNDED CORRECTLY NOW, so I don't have ANY PROBLEMS but you appear to have issues and i got the tissues for U baby Peac3 I'm an Amarr who spec'd into Gallente Logistics who fights with a Minmatarian Combat Rifle who grinds with Caldari Militia dropsuits. I don't have issues. Your point is invalid. The Captain of THE-TITANS and proud Militia Pub Stomper.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1749	Posted - 2014.01.17 14:02:00 - [116] - Quote Scumbags will be scumbags. Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Leonid Tybalt Dark Knightz Corp. 157	Posted - 2014.01.17 14:51:00 - [117] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: R F Gyro wrote: I'm not sure you are allowed to post GM conversations here, so careful with that. Also, are you sure that CCP weren't simply telling you that the mechanics of a cash refund had to go through Sony? You give cash to Sony and they give cash to CCP. If you want the cash back, you get it back from Sony and they get it back from CCP. Maybe Sony contacted CCP and said "this guy wants his cash back, is that OK with you?" and they said "yep, we've already been in contact with him and it is OK". I imagine CCP lose the cash either way, and they are comfortable with this because their strategy is now to discourage BPO ownership and use. In other words, are you assuming malice where there isn't any? Oh? Is that why ccp went out of their way to advertise packs that contained bpo's and told us to "get them before they're off the market"? Doesn't seem very "discouraging" to me. Eh? Out of all I wrote you chose to pick up on "discouraging BPO ownership"? You could remove everything in that sentence after "comfortable with this" and it wouldn't affect my point at all. Quote: Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void. By "you people" I assume you are addressing other people rather than me, so this paragraph is not in response to my post. Then tell me how they "discourage" us when they purposefully advertise for us to buy bpo's? "you people" = plural = no one in specific.
Lorhak Gannarsein 1223	Posted - 2014.01.17 15:20:00 - [118] - Quote WOO WE ARE ALL INTERNET LAWYERS WHO ARE SUPER DUPER SKILLED AT INTERPRETING AND ENFORCING INTERNATIONAL CONSUMER LAW! Also, f[i]u[/]ck you, OP and all you stand for. And, I suppose, all the QQing whiners bitching about how their BPOs were 'stolen'. I notice, OP, that you haven't posted in the thread for a while; got banned? PRO tanker and proud.
Ankbar Latrommi Immortal Guides 36	Posted - 2014.01.17 15:22:00 - [119] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Also to all you people who defend ccp by crying "EULA": the EULA isn't considered legal in all countries. So it Doesn't matter if you signed or agreed to something as a consumer, because if it's not recognised by the laws of the country you live in, then any kind of contract is automatically void. And your word is also worthless, because regardless of the legalities in your particular country, you as an individual agreed to the EULA. If you don't like it, don't agree to it and don't play the game. If you want to make an argument how EULA's should be simpler and in plain speech, I'll agree. But an agreement is an agreement, unless you support a culture of dishonesty with no real basis for trust. Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS
Ankbar Latrommi Immortal Guides 36	Posted - 2014.01.17 15:25:00 - [120] - Quote NomaDz 2K wrote: TThe point is this is an UPDATE on the situation, it's also proving that WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS, this is why SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED - CAUSE WE HAVE RIGHTS an argument with very low critical thinking. How exactly is a "right" defined? Isn't it simply what our governments allow us? Then it's dependent upon the government, and there is no such thing as an absolute right. So get a better argument than qq'ing "rights". Reiner Knizia-"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." Eve> FPS



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