Oh, except that one time where I got alpha'd through a hardener by like four guys.

the AV problem is that infantry AV are still behaving like they are invisable to tanks!

they spent 6 months with complete invisability to tanks, able to alpha them without tanks having the ability to even know where shots are coming from, using towers and extreme range to avoid infantry while they did it.


now they are

no longer invisable
cant shoot across the entire map


and they have no idea how to deal with it since they have never had to learn.

so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.



only unlike pre 1.7 i can actually see them now, and so i can either railgun them in the face, or actually tank cover against their shots before they have 3 sets of swarms in the air.



i think the infantry AV problem is that they still think they are invisable....


its quite possable that the reason AV was so powerful pre 1.7 wasnt damage but range and invisability.

i vote for an AV buff for swarms and PLCs, it seems it was the extremem range and invisability was the imbalancing factor, the damage not so much.

so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.

Invisible? we are more invisible now then we ever wereGǪ in 1.6 you couldn't ignore a onslaught of swarms invisible or notGǪ now tanks shrug them off like flies. I prided myself on wrecking tanks and fought close so I could dump every av grenade and swarm in my clip to ensure you were dead. Blasters if your 2 feet away are easy to avoid. Now if i get close you can be half way across the map in 5 seconds IF i manage to damage you enough

Invisible? we are more invisible now then we ever wereGǪ in 1.6 you couldn't ignore a onslaught of swarms invisible or notGǪ now tanks shrug them off like flies. I prided myself on wrecking tanks and fought close so I could dump every av grenade and swarm in my clip to ensure you were dead. Blasters if your 2 feet away are easy to avoid. Now if i get close you can be half way across the map in 5 seconds IF i manage to damage you enough

That is entirely the point. You guys are used to the 'crutch' of being invisible ad having overwhelming killing power. Now that you don't...

Well, the entire forum's a testament to that.

Which isn't to say that I don't think the swarm launcher couldn't use a little buff (holy negatives, Batman!)

An AV suit should be dangerous the scout shotty version of the vehicle worldGǪ easy to kill yet nothing disorients a squad faster. you assume we had a crutch. though many did

the AV problem is that infantry AV are still behaving like they are invisable to tanks!

they spent 6 months with complete invisability to tanks, able to alpha them without tanks having the ability to even know where shots are coming from, using towers and extreme range to avoid infantry while they did it.


now they are

no longer invisable
cant shoot across the entire map


and they have no idea how to deal with it since they have never had to learn.

so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.



only unlike pre 1.7 i can actually see them now, and so i can either railgun them in the face, or actually tank cover against their shots before they have 3 sets of swarms in the air.



i think the infantry AV problem is that they still think they are invisable....


its quite possable that the reason AV was so powerful pre 1.7 wasnt damage but range and invisability.

i vote for an AV buff for swarms and PLCs, it seems it was the extremem range and invisability was the imbalancing factor, the damage not so much.

being insible 400 m away IS a crutch.... just like when the invisable shotgunners ran pampant

being insible 400 m away IS a crutch.... just like when the invisable shotgunners ran pampant

HAV no longer safe because we can damage them

Thats OP to HAV players

I never fought 400 m awayGǪ your assuming. I knew there were good tankers out there in 1.6 is it so hard to believe that there isn't good av? You have the upper hand now and everyone else is a scrub? Sound logic there bud. Two sides to a coin always

So you believe that a "crutch" is the problem with AV?

What is your proficiency in Swarm Launchers again? Forge Guns? Total SP investment?

My guess: 0-310,900SP

You say that as if every SL user was always 400m away.

please tell me how being invisable want a problem?

Majority were 400m away

Invisible? How was I invisible when my farthest kill with a Swarm Launcher was 30m?

Don't give me that BS about rendering either, because when I'm tanking infantry would still render at 30m.

Now just answer the question.

Majority were 400m away

Majority were 400m away

i once had a guy randomly appear STANDING on my tank....

in the middle of a wide open field, were no infantry was (that i could tell)

rendering *****

Well then there is a serious problem with your PS3, as that problem has never once happened to me.

Never once while driving my tank (Pre & Post 1.7) have I ever had a problem with rendering below 50m.

Now how about answering the question.

400 m away was a problem, invisible was a problemGǪ Running a 150k Isk AV suit and not being able to push back a militia blaster to keep them from killing my entire squad is also a problem.

If you cant kill a militia tank then thats your problem