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Six 7
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Posted - 2013.12.19 11:59:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:the AV problem is that infantry AV are still behaving like they are invisable to tanks!
they spent 6 months with complete invisability to tanks, able to alpha them without tanks having the ability to even know where shots are coming from, using towers and extreme range to avoid infantry while they did it.
now they are
no longer invisable
cant shoot across the entire map
and they have no idea how to deal with it since they have never had to learn.
so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.
only unlike pre 1.7 i can actually see them now, and so i can either railgun them in the face, or actually tank cover against their shots before they have 3 sets of swarms in the air.
i think the infantry AV problem is that they still think they are invisable....
its quite possable that the reason AV was so powerful pre 1.7 wasnt damage but range and invisability.
i vote for an AV buff for swarms and PLCs, it seems it was the extremem range and invisability was the imbalancing factor, the damage not so much.
Invisible? we are more invisible now then we ever wereGǪ in 1.6 you couldn't ignore a onslaught of swarms invisible or notGǪ now tanks shrug them off like flies. I prided myself on wrecking tanks and fought close so I could dump every av grenade and swarm in my clip to ensure you were dead. Blasters if your 2 feet away are easy to avoid. Now if i get close you can be half way across the map in 5 seconds IF i manage to damage you enough |
Six 7
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:24:00 -
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I read it, and agreed with it. Just voicing my opinion. Not trying to be a **** just trying to find a solution to a problem. |
Six 7
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:32:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Six 7 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:the AV problem is that infantry AV are still behaving like they are invisable to tanks!
they spent 6 months with complete invisability to tanks, able to alpha them without tanks having the ability to even know where shots are coming from, using towers and extreme range to avoid infantry while they did it.
now they are
no longer invisable
cant shoot across the entire map
and they have no idea how to deal with it since they have never had to learn.
so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.
only unlike pre 1.7 i can actually see them now, and so i can either railgun them in the face, or actually tank cover against their shots before they have 3 sets of swarms in the air.
i think the infantry AV problem is that they still think they are invisable....
its quite possable that the reason AV was so powerful pre 1.7 wasnt damage but range and invisability.
i vote for an AV buff for swarms and PLCs, it seems it was the extremem range and invisability was the imbalancing factor, the damage not so much. Invisible? we are more invisible now then we ever wereGǪ in 1.6 you couldn't ignore a onslaught of swarms invisible or notGǪ now tanks shrug them off like flies. I prided myself on wrecking tanks and fought close so I could dump every av grenade and swarm in my clip to ensure you were dead. Blasters if your 2 feet away are easy to avoid. Now if i get close you can be half way across the map in 5 seconds IF i manage to damage you enough That is entirely the point. You guys are used to the 'crutch' of being invisible ad having overwhelming killing power. Now that you don't... Well, the entire forum's a testament to that. Which isn't to say that I don't think the swarm launcher couldn't use a little buff (holy negatives, Batman!)
An AV suit should be dangerous the scout shotty version of the vehicle worldGǪ easy to kill yet nothing disorients a squad faster. you assume we had a crutch. though many did |
Six 7
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:40:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:Six 7 wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Six 7 wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:the AV problem is that infantry AV are still behaving like they are invisable to tanks!
they spent 6 months with complete invisability to tanks, able to alpha them without tanks having the ability to even know where shots are coming from, using towers and extreme range to avoid infantry while they did it.
now they are
no longer invisable
cant shoot across the entire map
and they have no idea how to deal with it since they have never had to learn.
so far i have had almost no serious attempts on my tanks life, just a guy in an open field stairing me down standing still, shooting a swarm launcher or forge, completly in the open stairing me down like they are magically invisable or something.
only unlike pre 1.7 i can actually see them now, and so i can either railgun them in the face, or actually tank cover against their shots before they have 3 sets of swarms in the air.
i think the infantry AV problem is that they still think they are invisable....
its quite possable that the reason AV was so powerful pre 1.7 wasnt damage but range and invisability.
i vote for an AV buff for swarms and PLCs, it seems it was the extremem range and invisability was the imbalancing factor, the damage not so much. Invisible? we are more invisible now then we ever wereGǪ in 1.6 you couldn't ignore a onslaught of swarms invisible or notGǪ now tanks shrug them off like flies. I prided myself on wrecking tanks and fought close so I could dump every av grenade and swarm in my clip to ensure you were dead. Blasters if your 2 feet away are easy to avoid. Now if i get close you can be half way across the map in 5 seconds IF i manage to damage you enough That is entirely the point. You guys are used to the 'crutch' of being invisible ad having overwhelming killing power. Now that you don't... Well, the entire forum's a testament to that. Which isn't to say that I don't think the swarm launcher couldn't use a little buff (holy negatives, Batman!) An AV suit should be dangerous the scout shotty version of the vehicle worldGǪ easy to kill yet nothing disorients a squad faster. you assume we had a crutch. though many did being insible 400 m away IS a crutch.... just like when the invisable shotgunners ran pampant
I never fought 400 m awayGǪ your assuming. I knew there were good tankers out there in 1.6 is it so hard to believe that there isn't good av? You have the upper hand now and everyone else is a scrub? Sound logic there bud. Two sides to a coin always |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:53:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
being insible 400 m away IS a crutch.... just like when the invisable shotgunners ran pampant
You say that as if every SL user was always 400m away. Majority were 400m away
400 m away was a problem, invisible was a problemGǪ Running a 150k Isk AV suit and not being able to push back a militia blaster to keep them from killing my entire squad is also a problem. |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 12:59:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Six 7 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:
being insible 400 m away IS a crutch.... just like when the invisable shotgunners ran pampant
You say that as if every SL user was always 400m away. Majority were 400m away 400 m away was a problem, invisible was a problemGǪ Running a 150k Isk AV suit and not being able to push back a militia blaster to keep them from killing my entire squad is also a problem. If you cant kill a militia tank then thats your problem
"Push Back" I don't expect to kill a tankGǪ Im using tanker logic, using av as a deterrent and tanks being the killers. Read |
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:07:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Six 7 wrote:
"Push Back" I don't expect to kill a tankGǪ Im using tanker logic, using av as a deterrent and tanks being the killers. Read
If that was even logical, then wouldn't we have to re-tittle the descriptions for FGs/SLs/PLCs? Because last time I checked, Anti-Vehicle meant ANTI-Vehicle. No where in any of the weapon descriptions does it even come close to implying that AV should be a deterrent. Anyone who tells you that is a scrub who is butthurt over something other than a tank being able to kill them.\ Also. why skill into something to be a simple deterrent? Why even bother creating them?
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