Ok, even though this has been covered to death, i will go over it again.

Because there is no viable counter for infantry to deploy against tanks, and since tanks are IMMUNE to normal infantry, this means in ALL scenarios a tank is the best tool for the job.

No viable counter?

So there is no FG, no swarms, no AV grenades, no flux grenades, no PLC.

No dropship or LAV either.

There are a bunch of viable counters, and a couple not so viable.

Then there is the best option, which is another tank.

I have yet to see a reasonable argument for why infantry based AV has to be the BEST option for taking out vehicles. I doubt I will ever hear one, but oh am I hoping that you will be the one to provide it.

Everything in this game should have a counter. Thats how you get varied gameplay.

Now any 5 year old would correctly answer this.... but if the only counter to something is itself, does it have a counter?

Hint: no

So what is the counter to vehicles? Oh right, more vehicles.

You know what... nevermind. Have fun playing World of Tanks.

I gave you a list of counters and you reply that there are no counters.

You sir, have no sense.

I play World of Tanks, it is a great game. Thanks for being concerned about my gaming habits.

You can solo a tank, it just takes smarts, and patience.

When you develop them, tanks will fall.

Until then, practice.

ISKIES are a balancing factor, they guys who bring 30 Battleships should always beat the guys who bring 6 cruisers.....

They WOULD be counters if it weren't for the fact that the "wave of opportunity" to counter a tanks is so tiny due to the fact that tanks are fast as **** right now. The problem with AV is that it's an all or nothing deal. I'm doing between 50-60 thousand damage a game with AV but I get nothing for my efforts because no kill no WP. If they brought back WP for damage it would ease things abit. Since you play WOT what would your thoughts be on module damage?

PS What tiers are you at? Personally, I rock an OBJ 704 and a Bat Chat 155 58

If Anti-Tank Tanks were ineffective against Infantry, or it was made nearly impossible to shoot them then you'd have more of an argument of having tanks counter tanks, because bringing an AV tank means that it would be largely useless against infantry (making it easy to be taken out by AV) but would be able to counter Anti Infantry tanks (who's guns become similarly ineffective against other vehicles)

These Anti Infantry vehicles would be easily able to engage most infantry (and thus infantry AV) but would be vulnerable to AV tanks.

If that was the case, then yes, Tanking would be more of a choice of which to bring in, (or which to fit for)

As it stands now Tanks are anti tank, infantry, installation, and AV. The only they can't do is cap.

This is interesting. T take it a two further make the tanks that are effective against infantry ineffective against other tanks.
Similar to infantry that want use AV.

Then a tank has to decide if he wants to AV all match or hunt infantry all match. Take away the recall function and then we may be on to something.

Tankers already do this. That is why you see so many tank pairs now. One for AV one for AI.

Running a blaster and expecting to go toe to toe with a AT tank is not going to turn out well. Equally, taking a railgun into a city socket and trying to mop up infantry will not serve you very well.

Why take away recall? So we can be stuck in one tank until someone destroys it? To what end? To make AV players feel good?

I'm not even sure why tanks get a free recall why shouldnt you have to go to a supply depot like the rest of us? And an instant recall with no real invunlreabilty. Come on you can't see how cheap a tactict that is? An av guy does his job to the point you don't think you can recover so you run behind cover hop out and recall it? Really? Its a huge safety net for tanks that they dont need.

Its kinda like getting beat while playing kickball and you decide since your getting beat you are just gonna take your kickball and go home so now no one can play.

I thought you meant removing recall completely. I don't recall in combat out of principle, but I can see how that would get people upset. Nothing worse than putting the work in to watch your target dematerialize in front of you.

I have no problem with a timed recall where the vehicle can get popped, like an RDV pickup, or a supply depot swap out. I always wondered why the vehicle option was even there in the supply menu, but it could be made to work.

However, I also think I should be able to scuttle my tank and deny you the WP. If I can't recall it or save it, you best believe I am not giving you the WP for it if I can help it.

Scuttle away that should be possible as long as the damn thing goes ca-blooey I don't care.

Why are all of you dedicated infantry so angry that now the best way to take out a tank is with another tank?

1. I was responding to the guy who said AV can solo tanks with "smarts." Again so me a vid of all these "strategies"...They don't work against a non idiot tank.
2. Because then it becomes who has the most tanks with infantry having little they can do to even DETER a tank.
3. If it stays like this you just killed an entire playstyle...namely AV.
4. Right now the best answer for all situations is...use a tank.

Listen we need to change AV, I get that. Make more defensive AV..like the proxies MUCH stronger. Offensive AV can probably stay where it's at. But add better AV, like webifiers and emp that affects mod length/delay.

Its very very easy to solo a tank - strap lots of remote explosives to a cheap LAV - Drive straight into enemy tank - BOOM!

Unless the tanker is VERY aware of his surroundings or has a fit specifically to counter RE "Jihad jeeps" (I.E plates and hardeners) he will go down like a sack of poo.

I speak from experience.

I solo'ed about.... 24 tanks today?

ISKIES are NOT a balancing factor. For proof, see titans and supercarriers.

So why do tanks require no teamwork at all, but to take the out requires tremendous teamwork?

tanking usually does require team work now unfortunately.

the good news: the enemy tank be trying to kill your team mates thus distracting him while you get behind him stealthily. REs now stick to walls and vehicles (stationary vehicles and slow moving vehicles (just started moving or slowing down to stop, like 2m per sec speed))

Use a militia scout suit, basic REs, plasma cannon, basic packed AV grenades, basic SMG. Tanks are usually stationary when killing infantry. Get behind the tank, plant 3 REs on it, detonate, throw 1 or 2 AV grenades at it. That should always blow it up.

Disclaimer: only works if you surprise the tanker and he has not activated his hardeners.

Luckily tanks rarely activate hardeners against infantry unless they see AV infantry firing at them.

I have tested this and it has worked many times for me.

only costs me 7000 ISK per suit.

Only large risk is being spotted by other infantry.

You can solo a tank, it just takes smarts, and patience.

When you develop them, tanks will fall.

Until then, practice.

tanks hurt through hardeners. seriously. if it's hardeners are up, nothing short of another tank is going to put that bastard in the ground, so save your ammo and get to a better position to fire on it when it stops glowing.

why do you even bother to post when you dont even know how to drive a tank properly?