Checkmate you're now dead to me.

SCR is fine as is.

I can agree to more hip fire spread, but not doing reduced damage as range closes. Full damage out to optimal, but hip fire accuracy prevents cqc dominance.

Checkmate you're now dead to me.

SCR is fine as is.

I'm reserving judgement until I see the new rifles.

Bear in mind that the range buff isn't that significant, honestly. The majority of combat takes place within the current range - the maps are even designed for that kind of range. How often do you need 80m shots in the Gallente maps compared to sub-50m?

I use the TAR and kill enemies beyond my optimal all the time. The TAR optimal is 65m; much higher than the current ScrR and much lower than the 1.7 ScrR. My longest kill is usually around 75m in any given match. Because I have the range, I purposely choose areas where I have long sight lines in a couple of directions to set up shop. Obviously, combat in any sort of enclosed space forces everyone close together, you're right about that.

Also, as the ScrR does not have an ACOG scope, it should be much trickier to use at range, especially against anyone who has the brains to strafe. The new rifles' DPS seems to be around the same as the Assault Rifle, then impacted by spool time and burst delays. In a way, with the Rail Rifle, you've got an Assault Rifle variant (so to speak) with a huge range, too.

Really, I only have a problem with the ScrR when I round a corner, put several rounds into someone, and then they turn and hipfire their ScrR until I'm dead. It kills even faster than an AR in twitchy hands in CQC, which just makes no sense to me whatsoever. It should be a marksman's weapon, not a "lol I can spasm 8 bullets a second at your toe" weapon. I can click a mouse about 9 times a second with a solid effort, 8 times easy. That's up to 970 DPS a second on an Imperial set when a Duvolle with the same set is doing 640. That is a colossal difference.

That's the DPS difference (a little over 50%) between a Militia Assault Rifle with Proficiency 0 and a Balac's GAR-21 with Proficiency 5. You're matching the same set with an AR at less than 6 shots a second. From what I've read of people timing themselves, 6 seems pretty typical. However, many people can hit 8-10 without too much trouble and it's not like you need precise aim when the guy is 5m from you.

if this happens I better have a amarr smg that same day

The thing with hipfire spread on a semiautomatic gun that does 100+ damage a shot is that a degree of luck comes into play. I sometimes use my TAR at short range while getting shot at. Half the time most of my bullets connect and the guy dies before he can drop my shields. The other half of the time most of my bullets miss and he tears me a new one.

THE SCR IS NOT SUPERIOR TO THE AR, if thats what you are implying....
Yes you can do More DPS in a seconds but after you get 1 kill you overheat. The Duvolle has the ability to Kill 3 and up to 5+ enemies IN A ROW, without having to even release the R1 button.

On the rest, i agree. The main issue is the Capability the SCR has at CQ.

That just it. It isn't the gun being OP or the player abusing some gimmick. Its luck, plain and simple. A more reliable way to ensure his survival would be to switch to his sidearm, and finish off his foe.

Honestly, I HATE the laser rifle, specifically because of the sweet spot. It .Ames no sense with real physics, it makes the gun useless outside of a small defined range, and it just... bugs me. Plus, it does constant damage as long as the trigger is held, unlike the scrambler which requires multiple trigger pulls.

Hip fire dispersion, I can understand. But that wonky-ass damage profile on my weapon... I will not cede this point.

That just it. It isn't the gun being OP or the player abusing some gimmick. Its luck, plain and simple. A more reliable way to ensure his survival would be to switch to his sidearm, and finish off his foe.

Honestly, I HATE the laser rifle, specifically because of the sweet spot. It .Ames no sense with real physics, it makes the gun useless outside of a small defined range, and it just... bugs me. Plus, it does constant damage as long as the trigger is held, unlike the scrambler which requires multiple trigger pulls.

Hip fire dispersion, I can understand. But that wonky-ass damage profile on my weapon... I will not cede this point.

I would like to point out that you were using a bloody Sidearm on the weakest suit in the game, but I am behind the idea of having it do less damage the closer you are... as long as the AR gets it's range shot down to blaster level like it's supposed to. Otherwise it'll just be the Laser Rifle all over again. Why use A to cover range 3 when B covers ranges 1, 2, and 3?

The cooldown exploit needs to be addressed. I'd like to see the RoF capped to a reasonable level and the hipfire spread being increased to be slightly more accurate than the TAR. RoF cap would mostly limit turbos and the small percentage of people hitting 900+ DPS. Hipfire spread, simply because it's too accurate. You can't claim the gun's DPS (even lowered for feasibility) is OK because it requires skill when you can just mash the trigger in CQC from the hip and mow everyone down.

I've been using the SCR for a couple weeks now and I don't think it even compares to the ease of the AR. It requires a lot more skill. I'm not used to the charged shot yet though, I don't utilize it enough.

If they nerf the SCR at all they should change the name of Dust to AR 514.

It has some drawbacks, the AR has none.

Well of course,
ALL OF MY POST is in the case the AR gets a noticeable Range Tone Down.

BTW i did not quite understand the ''sidearm'' part.
But my Boundless SMG has prof 5 and hits around 46 per bullet with 2 Cx sidearm Dam Mods....

This is the weapon i was'' maining'' all day.
Pretty good weapon TBQH...Overlooked...By Far.
For the Mere 30k a piece and Good Fitting cost,its an A+ weapon,for sure.

I think the AR needs to be re-balanced before the scrambler. Once that happens then this should be visited. As or right now at least the scrambler overheats so taking out multiple attackers at once requires much more control than with a AR.