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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2263
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Posted - 2013.12.16 21:04:00 -
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Jane Madson wrote:Well, we are about done with the first week of FW 2.0, how is everyone feeling about the changes? Are you all feeling good about the FW channel, how about the ability to organize matches to increase our odds of victory?
I like the changes to FW, being a heavy, its been a challage to adapt to the new weapons, my kdr the first week is 1.0. I've had matches that i went 17-4 and some where i went 2-10. All depending on the map. I hav'nt had a problem squading or building a squad from the caldari channel. Been plenty support eve side. Biggest problem i've seen is the lack of oganization in matches. Not enough squads and very little teamwork with the blues. Alot of them are clueless and fail to do what it takes to win. I've seen alot of players camping behind the redline and not trying to capture objectives. I think alot of them either are worried about tk. Or just dont care and are farming lp.
I feel good about FW. Feel even better when we get more strategy minded players underneath the umbrella. I've seen some out there and always talk about things we are doing here in hopes of bringing in more capable players who are dedicated to the cause.
Comms? Well I feel that the KH comm channel is just as infiltrated as CH is. Something needs to be done about that as a precautionary measure. Either it needs to be PW protected or we need an exclusive channel that is only granted to those who have showed loyalty to the cause. Not saying there aren't any good players there. There are plenty. I'm just a security minded person. So it's no surprise I would say such a thing. I am sure everything will be optimized as we move forward.
All in all, I quite enjoy the changes. I've been in some great squads who exemplify the mindset of the Caldari. There are some dedicated players who are putting their heart into the battles and I commend them.
The one thing I think needs to be worked on is the connectivity between all the Caldari loyalists. Be sure to talk to the ones showing good promise and inform them of what is being done in the background. The more we connect with others, the stronger we will become. So networking still needs to be active.
Keep up the fight!
For the State!!
o7
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Nemo Nauticlone
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
68
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:21:00 -
[242] - Quote
If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want.
Nemo the Necromantic Nautilord (YAY FOR LOGIBROS!!!)
A.K.A. CEO of NCM
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2263
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:21:00 -
[243] - Quote
Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want.
Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner.
o7
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
66
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:26:00 -
[244] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? |
Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard EVE Alliance 20131217
321
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:41:00 -
[245] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? State patriots and providence guard are two that are truly Caldari oriented
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2264
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:46:00 -
[246] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet?
From what I've been gathering, there are very few corporations interested in a Caldari corp. Most people who are loyal to Caldari either have a CEO dedicated to the cause but some members have been seen fighting against our allies and us. Or some members are dedicated to the cause and other members within just play whatever faction they want.
I am speaking with a CEO of corporation (I won't reveal now who) is interested in working towards the Caldari effort. But I must make it clear to him that absolute loyalty must be...absolute. We cannot allow such small minors as unruly corporations undo what we are starting to build here. Not implying his is unruly. But we just briefly spoke and I did not have a sit down with him and hash things out. We just had a quick conversation.
I've been getting more responses from individuals who are interested in the Caldari corp than I do whole corporations themselves. I encourage them to come here and talk with us. I have received in game mail from a couple of mercenaries who are wondering if the Caldari corp is going to happen.
Possibly we need to just create one or start filling the ranks of a corporation already created. An already created corporation could entice players to join if they see us wave the banner. Of course, it goes without mentioning, that the already established Caldari loyalist corporations are not under the consideration of recruitment. In other words, I'm looking to pull in players who are separately pursuing this goal who want to join us.
A unified effort brings folks together once they start seeing popular names or "locals" of the forum have the same corporation title underneath their mercenaries IDs.
So I will continue randomly getting into a squad with random players in FW and sending the message across that a unified effort is underway and they should join us.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2264
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:47:00 -
[247] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet?
And oh yea, we gotta squad up again some time. I enjoyed those matches. You guys made me a better mercenary. It was harmonic.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
68
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:50:00 -
[248] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? And oh yea, we gotta squad up again some time. I enjoyed those matches. You guys made me a better mercenary. It was harmonic. Anytime on the weekends but not the weekdays because finals are a pain as it is. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2266
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:52:00 -
[249] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? And oh yea, we gotta squad up again some time. I enjoyed those matches. You guys made me a better mercenary. It was harmonic. Anytime on the weekends but not the weekdays because finals are a pain as it is.
LOL ah yes...understood. This weekend is a busy workload for me...but we will squad again soon
o7
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
704
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Posted - 2013.12.18 17:19:00 -
[250] - Quote
I'm either willing to donate my corp to the cause or start a new corp. being the only way to properly police true loyalist army. I doesnt have to be just one corp but the 100 unorganised corps is not working on the field since it doesnt matter how many WP you earn if you cant hold objectives you can't win.
All the Caldari corporations
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Caldari Loyalist
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
942
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:37:00 -
[251] - Quote
Proto Caldari Assault with prof 3 RR, prof 4 ScR, prof 2 PLC, prof 2 SMG, proto hives/inj, reporting for duty o7
Going to run over them dirty gallente in my Blood Raider-¦s Saga.
HOOOYAH!
Doesnt matter in Dust 514: PC. FW Standing. Tanking Type. Other mods than DMG or HP.
Does matter in Dust 514: Rifles.
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
227
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Posted - 2013.12.18 23:08:00 -
[252] - Quote
Spectral Clone wrote:Proto Caldari Assault with prof 3 RR, prof 4 ScR, prof 2 PLC, prof 2 SMG, proto hives/inj, reporting for duty o7
Going to run over them dirty gallente in my Blood Raider-¦s Saga.
HOOOYAH! Welcome to the cause brother
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
229
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:16:00 -
[253] - Quote
Ku Shala wrote:I'm either willing to donate my corp to the cause or start a new corp. being the only way to properly police true loyalist army It doesnt have to be just one corp but the 100 unorganised corps is not working on the field since it doesnt matter how many WP you earn if you cant hold objectives you can't win. Trusting corps with mercs fighting for more than one faction (Amarr aside) is difficult.
We need all the Caldari corporations involved in factional warfare to have a common list of basic tactics ie.
Tac 1 = Uplinks
Tac 2 = Nanohives ect..
we need to be more organised on the field too. Since WP doesnt mean sh!t on the field now 4 man squads are likely better for syncing and designating squad positions ie, squad 0 holds objective" A" squad 1 holds objective "B" and so on ect. we are more likley to get more players into a match if they are in a smaller squad. 4 infantry is more than enough to hold an objective and no map holds more than 5 objectives Like i've said before, i would be willing to move to another corp if it was a good fit and had a stable leadership structure. But i'm done with large corperations, they always struggle to balance whats right for both the members and the corp.
I still deploy into every match in a tac-1 fitting droping uplinks and nanohives. I also agree with 4 man squads. You only need to hold 3 objectives. 3 squads each capture and defend a objective while the 4th squad is used as a floater helping out the other squads to either capture or defend. I've also have had luck with a single 6 man squad, split into 2 teams after deploy and each capture and defend an objective and hope the blueberries will be able to hold amother long enough that you win.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2316
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Posted - 2013.12.19 00:19:00 -
[254] - Quote
Ku Shala wrote:I'm either willing to donate my corp to the cause or start a new corp. being the only way to properly police true loyalist army It doesnt have to be just one corp but the 100 unorganised corps is not working on the field since it doesnt matter how many WP you earn if you cant hold objectives you can't win. Trusting corps with mercs fighting for more than one faction (Amarr aside) is difficult.
We need all the Caldari corporations involved in factional warfare to have a common list of basic tactics ie.
Tac 1 = Uplinks
Tac 2 = Nanohives ect..
we need to be more organised on the field too. Since WP doesnt mean sh!t on the field now 4 man squads are likely better for syncing and designating squad positions ie, squad 0 holds objective" A" squad 1 holds objective "B" and so on ect. we are more likley to get more players into a match if they are in a smaller squad. 4 infantry is more than enough to hold an objective and no map holds more than 5 objectives
There is fire in your words brother. How many members do you have? I was thinking you, Jane and I could start this with you two combining members together.
I am all prepared for that cause. Do you propose we meet in game for the hashing out of details between the three?
Spectral Clone wrote:Proto Caldari Assault with prof 3 RR, prof 4 ScR, prof 2 PLC, prof 2 SMG, proto hives/inj, reporting for duty o7
Going to run over them dirty gallente in my Blood Raider-¦s Saga.
HOOOYAH!
Love the motivation!! Welcome aboard brother
o7
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
70
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:35:00 -
[255] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? From what I've been gathering, there are very few corporations interested in a Caldari corp. Most people who are loyal to Caldari either have a CEO dedicated to the cause but some members have been seen fighting against our allies and us. Or some members are dedicated to the cause and other members within just play whatever faction they want. I am speaking with a CEO of corporation (I won't reveal now who) is interested in working towards the Caldari effort. But I must make it clear to him that absolute loyalty must be...absolute. We cannot allow such small minors as unruly corporations undo what we are starting to build here. Not implying his is unruly. But we just briefly spoke and I did not have a sit down with him and hash things out. We just had a quick conversation. I've been getting more responses from individuals who are interested in the Caldari corp than I do whole corporations themselves. I encourage them to come here and talk with us. I have received in game mail from a couple of mercenaries who are wondering if the Caldari corp is going to happen. Possibly we need to just create one or start filling the ranks of a corporation already created. An already created corporation could entice players to join if they see us wave the banner. Of course, it goes without mentioning, that the already established Caldari loyalist corporations are not under the consideration of recruitment. In other words, I'm looking to pull in players who are separately pursuing this goal who want to join us. A unified effort brings folks together once they start seeing popular names or "locals" of the forum have the same corporation title underneath their mercenaries IDs. So I will continue randomly getting into a squad with random players in FW and sending the message across that a unified effort is underway and they should join us. Any thoughts or suggestions? From my perspective I suggest that we need to seek out individuals that are looking to support the Caldari cause. There is no need to seek help from powerful corporations that may or may not be loyal to the cause. We should rally our supporters and make them fight for the Caldari State. What I'm getting at is that we (the supporters) should start a new corporation. We will start our loyal corporation and support the State! Sorry my true Caldari came out. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2316
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Posted - 2013.12.19 02:47:00 -
[256] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? From what I've been gathering, there are very few corporations interested in a Caldari corp. Most people who are loyal to Caldari either have a CEO dedicated to the cause but some members have been seen fighting against our allies and us. Or some members are dedicated to the cause and other members within just play whatever faction they want. I am speaking with a CEO of corporation (I won't reveal now who) is interested in working towards the Caldari effort. But I must make it clear to him that absolute loyalty must be...absolute. We cannot allow such small minors as unruly corporations undo what we are starting to build here. Not implying his is unruly. But we just briefly spoke and I did not have a sit down with him and hash things out. We just had a quick conversation. I've been getting more responses from individuals who are interested in the Caldari corp than I do whole corporations themselves. I encourage them to come here and talk with us. I have received in game mail from a couple of mercenaries who are wondering if the Caldari corp is going to happen. Possibly we need to just create one or start filling the ranks of a corporation already created. An already created corporation could entice players to join if they see us wave the banner. Of course, it goes without mentioning, that the already established Caldari loyalist corporations are not under the consideration of recruitment. In other words, I'm looking to pull in players who are separately pursuing this goal who want to join us. A unified effort brings folks together once they start seeing popular names or "locals" of the forum have the same corporation title underneath their mercenaries IDs. So I will continue randomly getting into a squad with random players in FW and sending the message across that a unified effort is underway and they should join us. Any thoughts or suggestions? From my perspective I suggest that we need to seek out individuals that are looking to support the Caldari cause. There is no need to seek help from powerful corporations that may or may not be loyal to the cause. We should rally our supporters and make them fight for the Caldari State. What I'm getting at is that we (the supporters) should start a new corporation. We will start our loyal corporation and support the State! Sorry my true Caldari came out.
Agreed. I didn't want to cause bad blood by pulling people from their home corporations. If people are willing to do so, I'm all for it.
So what would we name this corp? Who would be good directors and personnel manager?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
70
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Posted - 2013.12.19 02:57:00 -
[257] - Quote
To be honest, I'm willing to leave the L.E.G.I.O.N so I could support the cause. As for the name I'm not sure. One question, are we only going to support the Caldari cause or are we going to help our Amarrian brothers because I know the Scions of Athra would be willing to help us organize. Only if we are supporting the Empire. Your thoughts? |
Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
229
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Posted - 2013.12.19 03:57:00 -
[258] - Quote
Possible corp name. Onuoto Uakan ( loyal patriot)
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.(Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us)
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2317
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:37:00 -
[259] - Quote
Jane Madson wrote:Possible corp name. Onuoto Uakan ( loyal patriot)
I like that!!
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2317
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:47:00 -
[260] - Quote
Solitar Greywatch wrote:To be honest, I'm willing to leave the L.E.G.I.O.N so I could support the cause. As for the name I'm not sure. One question, are we only going to support the Caldari cause or are we going to help our Amarrian brothers because I know the Scions of Athra would be willing to help us organize. Only if we are supporting the Empire. Your thoughts?
It is in our best interest that we support our allies in war. There are good capable men in SOA and within the Empire. I have no problem with lending my rifle to aid in their efforts. We are both somewhat in the same boat. We fight for the glory of our faction, not for the opportunity to gain equipment. That's an ally that you want on your side. You know they will be with you to the bitter end.
I am prepared to begin the creation of this corporation. It is possible we could make a "ghost" CEO when in actuality we are council of selected individuals who guide the corporation to its due seat.
I think Oswald would be great as personnel manager. Oz got the gift of gab and is good at pulling people together for a cause. If BIGRED 4UALL ever decided to leave his corp, I would suggest him being a director. His great leadership on field today helped shape and turn the tides of war today. I just played a couple of games with him and his efforts are commendable.
Just throwing around some thoughts out there.
So...who should create the corporation? Remember, SP is a factor.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
708
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Posted - 2013.12.19 14:27:00 -
[261] - Quote
an IN game meeting is in order......
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Caldari Loyalist
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Nemo Nauticlone
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
71
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:43:00 -
[262] - Quote
just some advice here from experience. The CEO needs to have the corporation skills MAXED OUT. It is also better is an EVE Pilot is CEO due to Capsuleers having more abilities as far as corp management (they get extra tabs to play with).
On a side note, the State is a confederacy of corporations and I feel like Kirjuun Heiian is a smaller version of this ideal. I would propose that this new corp, whatever it be named, be a meeting ground for all mercs who simply want to support the State. make this corp a coalition of Caldari aligned merceneries within the Kirjuun coalition.
I also have a question, this new corp. is it going to be a "training corp" ? that is to say, is it going to exist solely for lone mercs who want to fight under the glory of the Caldari banner or will we use it to filter out those who are not truly loyal to the cause before they are brought into the other members corporations of Kirjuun Heiian? and yes a meeting is in order and is scheduled for a week and a half from now as per the first meeting of the Kirjuun Heiian representatives.
Nemo the Necromantic Nautilord (YAY FOR LOGIBROS!!!)
A.K.A. CEO of NCM
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2324
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Posted - 2013.12.19 19:18:00 -
[263] - Quote
Nemo Nauticlone wrote:just some advice here from experience. The CEO needs to have the corporation skills MAXED OUT. It is also better is an EVE Pilot is CEO due to Capsuleers having more abilities as far as corp management (they get extra tabs to play with).
On a side note, the State is a confederacy of corporations and I feel like Kirjuun Heiian is a smaller version of this ideal. I would propose that this new corp, whatever it be named, be a meeting ground for all mercs who simply want to support the State. make this corp a coalition of Caldari aligned merceneries within the Kirjuun coalition.
I also have a question, this new corp. is it going to be a "training corp" ? that is to say, is it going to exist solely for lone mercs who want to fight under the glory of the Caldari banner or will we use it to filter out those who are not truly loyal to the cause before they are brought into the other members corporations of Kirjuun Heiian? and yes a meeting is in order and is scheduled for a week and a half from now as per the first meeting of the Kirjuun Heiian representatives.
Agreed about the CEO and maxed out skills. That's why I said SP is a factor here. To be perfectly honest with you, I think mercenaries of New Eden rather the CEO comes from Dust instead of EVE. There's that gray area that some might not like since they are not of the same group.
It's like going to a military bar and you're a Marine seeing a bar full of Navy guys.
Overall, you're thinking exactly what I'm thinking. That's my idea of the corporation. That it will be a coalition of Caldari loyalists fighting for one cause. If only we were able to have some leniency in this matter and have the ability to be involved in two corps. I know some mercs are willing to fight for the Caldari and help but they might be comfortable in the home corps. Alas, we can't have it all.
I believe a training corp is necessary as numbers grow. At this time, the distinction cannot be made clear. What I mean (stand by, I'm gathering thoughts on how to express this clearly)...I think a training corp will be ahead of the game since this is the start of the corporation. I want to get guys involved first and then once we start to get the gears turning and mercenaries begin showing their skills, we make the call then. The one thing I want to avoid at all costs is the arrogance- I'm way better than you, disruptive attitude that the elite corps show time and time again. I see that alot with elite corps and its a big turn off.
Sorry if I seemed to go off on a deep end there. I just don't want that kind of childish stuff happening with this corp. As far as "policing". Maybe selected individuals police the corp? Have our own set of spies in a sense that are able to ween out who are loyal and who are not.
What you think? I'm open to suggestions and comments on what I posted.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
709
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Posted - 2013.12.19 19:57:00 -
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Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket.
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Caldari Loyalist
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2327
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:09:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket.
Hey I like that. Great suggestion. Someone who plays EVE and Dust would be great. That's best, yes.
I wholeheartedly agree about the corporation's wallet. We DO NOT want it to be a bank account for someone to just line their pockets with.
Good suggestions Ku Shala.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
233
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:24:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ku Shala wrote:Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket. Hey I like that. Great suggestion. Someone who plays EVE and Dust would be great. That's best, yes. I wholeheartedly agree about the corporation's wallet. We DO NOT want it to be a bank account for someone to just line their pockets with. Good suggestions Ku Shala. my thoughts also. The whole corp wallet issue is the sticking point with me. I've given 700 million in isk to a previous corp and got squat in return. If the money is for a good cause and the members can see how that money is being used, i have no problems. But taking or asking for money that members cant see whats its used for, never again from me
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.(Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us)
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
2327
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Posted - 2013.12.19 20:28:00 -
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Jane Madson wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Ku Shala wrote:Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket. Hey I like that. Great suggestion. Someone who plays EVE and Dust would be great. That's best, yes. I wholeheartedly agree about the corporation's wallet. We DO NOT want it to be a bank account for someone to just line their pockets with. Good suggestions Ku Shala. my thoughts also. The whole corp wallet issue is the sticking point with me. I've given 700 million in isk to a previous corp and got squat in return. If the money is for a good cause and the members can see how that money is being used, i have no problems. But taking or asking for money that members cant see whats its used for, never again from me
I understand Jane. That would leave me cautious as well. I will not have that happen within the corp. I'm all for the honorable. The dishonorable and sheisters I despise. I have a very low tolerance for foolishness that can undo the corporation and the integrity of its members.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
71
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:28:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:just some advice here from experience. The CEO needs to have the corporation skills MAXED OUT. It is also better is an EVE Pilot is CEO due to Capsuleers having more abilities as far as corp management (they get extra tabs to play with).
On a side note, the State is a confederacy of corporations and I feel like Kirjuun Heiian is a smaller version of this ideal. I would propose that this new corp, whatever it be named, be a meeting ground for all mercs who simply want to support the State. make this corp a coalition of Caldari aligned merceneries within the Kirjuun coalition.
I also have a question, this new corp. is it going to be a "training corp" ? that is to say, is it going to exist solely for lone mercs who want to fight under the glory of the Caldari banner or will we use it to filter out those who are not truly loyal to the cause before they are brought into the other members corporations of Kirjuun Heiian? and yes a meeting is in order and is scheduled for a week and a half from now as per the first meeting of the Kirjuun Heiian representatives. Agreed about the CEO and maxed out skills. That's why I said SP is a factor here. To be perfectly honest with you, I think mercenaries of New Eden rather the CEO comes from Dust instead of EVE. There's that gray area that some might not like since they are not of the same group. It's like going to a military bar and you're a Marine seeing a bar full of Navy guys. Overall, you're thinking exactly what I'm thinking. That's my idea of the corporation. That it will be a coalition of Caldari loyalists fighting for one cause. If only we were able to have some leniency in this matter and have the ability to be involved in two corps. I know some mercs are willing to fight for the Caldari and help but they might be comfortable in the home corps. Alas, we can't have it all. I believe a training corp is necessary as numbers grow. At this time, the distinction cannot be made clear. What I mean (stand by, I'm gathering thoughts on how to express this clearly)...I think a training corp will be ahead of the game since this is the start of the corporation. I want to get guys involved first and then once we start to get the gears turning and mercenaries begin showing their skills, we make the call then. The one thing I want to avoid at all costs is the arrogance- I'm way better than you, disruptive attitude that the elite corps show time and time again. I see that alot with elite corps and its a big turn off. Sorry if I seemed to go off on a deep end there. I just don't want that kind of childish stuff happening with this corp. As far as "policing". Maybe selected individuals police the corp? Have our own set of spies in a sense that are able to ween out who are loyal and who are not. What you think? I'm open to suggestions and comments on what I posted. There is a need for secret police. For example the Soviet Union's Cheka. (secret police) When communism still existed in Eastern Europe you couldn't say anything negative towards the Union. There are ordinary people walking about in the Union but no one knows they are a part of the Cheka. If we used this method in Dust 514 only a few Caldari secret police will be evaluating new players and old to see if they are loyal to the cause. If we find them guilty we will just boot them because sadly we can't execute them, amputate there body parts, and burn them like the Soviet Union did. I think we could pull this off. Your thoughts? |
Solitar Greywatch
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
71
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ku Shala wrote:Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket. Hey I like that. Great suggestion. Someone who plays EVE and Dust would be great. That's best, yes. I wholeheartedly agree about the corporation's wallet. We DO NOT want it to be a bank account for someone to just line their pockets with. Good suggestions Ku Shala. As for the ghost CEO we could use the method that the Caldari used, we can create an oligarchy. Which means ruled by the few. This few will be the top of the line players our corporation has to offer. So there won't be just one leader, there will be multiple leaders. These leaders have the same power the other ones have so there wouldn't be any feuds about who is the leader. Your thoughts? |
Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
712
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Posted - 2013.12.20 14:47:00 -
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Solitar Greywatch wrote:As for the ghost CEO we could use the method that the Caldari used, we can create an oligarchy. Which means ruled by the few. This few will be the top of the line players our corporation has to offer. So there won't be just one leader, there will be multiple leaders. These leaders have the same power the other ones have so there wouldn't be any feuds about who is the leader. Your thoughts?
That is the plan, the future to hold a democratic senate. May our veiws remain in the best interest of the Caldari. Let us unite and take back what is rightfully ours.
For the State! 07
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Caldari Loyalist
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