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Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:22:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yes you said it right. We need the right plan. We need strong leadership that is fair and wise. We also need players, who are not among the officers of the corporation, to understand their own roles within. It must be structured from top to bottom, with respect all around.
Who would make good directors? Who's a good people person that would do well in the recruiting aspect? What requirements should be put in place? Proper resolution plans for those days we have some infighting? Who can we talk to EVE side that would support our corporation?
(Hey Oswald, would you brainstorm with us?) Don't get involved in politics is the best advice I could give. I will support this cause too! |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:27:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yes you said it right. We need the right plan. We need strong leadership that is fair and wise. We also need players, who are not among the officers of the corporation, to understand their own roles within. It must be structured from top to bottom, with respect all around.
Who would make good directors? Who's a good people person that would do well in the recruiting aspect? What requirements should be put in place? Proper resolution plans for those days we have some infighting? Who can we talk to EVE side that would support our corporation?
(Hey Oswald, would you brainstorm with us?) Don't get involved in politics is the best advice I could give. I will support this cause too! LOL mannnnn, I hate politics. It brings out the worse in people. Especially the stuff that Dark Legion is involved in. We have been at war for and finally prevailed. Try to make an announcement in the Caldari Hierarchy chat to recruit people. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:33:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Yes you said it right. We need the right plan. We need strong leadership that is fair and wise. We also need players, who are not among the officers of the corporation, to understand their own roles within. It must be structured from top to bottom, with respect all around.
Who would make good directors? Who's a good people person that would do well in the recruiting aspect? What requirements should be put in place? Proper resolution plans for those days we have some infighting? Who can we talk to EVE side that would support our corporation?
(Hey Oswald, would you brainstorm with us?) Don't get involved in politics is the best advice I could give. I will support this cause too! LOL mannnnn, I hate politics. It brings out the worse in people. Especially the stuff that Dark Legion is involved in. We have been at war for and finally prevailed. Try to make an announcement in the Caldari Hierarchy chat to recruit people. I do. It's tough work trying to screen folks. A separation of the dedicated and the trolls must be made. What is the name of this Caldari Corp? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:40:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:There are several Caldari corps that are being talked to. There is Subreddit, Dirty Laundry 514, Dreddit, Nova Marines, and Dead Six Initiative to name a few. We are currently working in the background to create a network between all these corporations since before December, has been pursuing their goals independently of each other.
It's working out. I'm patient. So are we just going to combine all of these corps with a new name? What is currently happening? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 04:44:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:There are several Caldari corps that are being talked to. There is Subreddit, Dirty Laundry 514, Dreddit, Nova Marines, and Dead Six Initiative to name a few. We are currently working in the background to create a network between all these corporations since before December, has been pursuing their goals independently of each other.
It's working out. I'm patient. On a side note; are we going to be assisting our Amarrian brothers or is this just strictly a Caldari factional warfare corp? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:01:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:There are several Caldari corps that are being talked to. There is Subreddit, Dirty Laundry 514, Dreddit, Nova Marines, and Dead Six Initiative to name a few. We are currently working in the background to create a network between all these corporations since before December, has been pursuing their goals independently of each other.
It's working out. I'm patient. On a side note; are we going to be assisting our Amarrian brothers or is this just strictly a Caldari factional warfare corp? Yes we will be assisting them. Amarr is our allies. I know I'm full of questions but when is this corporation going to start? I have fellow like minded mercenaries that I know. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.12 05:37:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Oh and any questions are good. No problem with that. That's what this thread is made for. Talk to you later and remember; Let the State Prosper with the Amarr! |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:28:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hey guys I made a post in dust fiction section of the forums please check it out it's Caldari RP ideas. Nice job! |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So is it possible that we all can link up this weekend for some FW action? I know some might be busy due to the holidays or what not.
But I would love the opportunity to squad and q sync with you guys and put words into action. Feel free to reply here in the thread or through the in game emails. I'll go online this weekend just tell me the channel. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:42:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So is it possible that we all can link up this weekend for some FW action? I know some might be busy due to the holidays or what not.
But I would love the opportunity to squad and q sync with you guys and put words into action. Feel free to reply here in the thread or through the in game emails. I'll go online this weekend just tell me the channel. Kirjuun Heiian. The day I would consider best for me is probably saturday. Though I definitely will be on Friday. If you see me, shoot me a message. If I don't answer, don't worry...I'm probably in battle or fiddling around in the MQ I'll go online both Friday and Saturday I'll bring some dedicated Dark Legion mercenaries to support the cause. See you there! |
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Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 04:45:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So is it possible that we all can link up this weekend for some FW action? I know some might be busy due to the holidays or what not.
But I would love the opportunity to squad and q sync with you guys and put words into action. Feel free to reply here in the thread or through the in game emails. I'll go online this weekend just tell me the channel. Kirjuun Heiian. The day I would consider best for me is probably saturday. Though I definitely will be on Friday. If you see me, shoot me a message. If I don't answer, don't worry...I'm probably in battle or fiddling around in the MQ What time zone are you in? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:08:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:So is it possible that we all can link up this weekend for some FW action? I know some might be busy due to the holidays or what not.
But I would love the opportunity to squad and q sync with you guys and put words into action. Feel free to reply here in the thread or through the in game emails. I'll go online this weekend just tell me the channel. Kirjuun Heiian. The day I would consider best for me is probably saturday. Though I definitely will be on Friday. If you see me, shoot me a message. If I don't answer, don't worry...I'm probably in battle or fiddling around in the MQ What time zone are you in? EST How many hours ahead are you from pacific standard time? It's 9:08pm here. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:17:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote: How many hours ahead are you from pacific standard time? It's 9:08pm here.
About three hours. It's 12:14 am over here Alright I'll see what I can do. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.14 01:37:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote: How many hours ahead are you from pacific standard time? It's 9:08pm here.
About three hours. It's 12:14 am over here I'll be going online in 15 minutes. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:26:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.18 00:50:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? And oh yea, we gotta squad up again some time. I enjoyed those matches. You guys made me a better mercenary. It was harmonic. Anytime on the weekends but not the weekdays because finals are a pain as it is. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.19 01:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:If you guys want/can if a list of those who are not "loyal" can be generated with reasons as to why they are not loyal I can create a "Blacklist" of people who are confirmed spies/infiltrators and then ban them from the channel. Depending on how strict we want the rules to be we can create a three strikes rule for corps. if three of your members are found to be spys your corp is banned from the channel. I have admin rights in EVE and I can make stuff like that happen, I just need to know what you guys want. Thank you brother. I will monitor on the days that I'm on. Have no fear, I will not be a Stalin on the comm channel. But if significant evidence is present, I will inform you through the in game email so that we may have a second pair of eyes to make sure that the accusation holds true. Again, gratitude for your help in the manner. o7 How are the other corporations responding about a Caldari corp? Do we have corporations that are loyal to our cause yet? From what I've been gathering, there are very few corporations interested in a Caldari corp. Most people who are loyal to Caldari either have a CEO dedicated to the cause but some members have been seen fighting against our allies and us. Or some members are dedicated to the cause and other members within just play whatever faction they want. I am speaking with a CEO of corporation (I won't reveal now who) is interested in working towards the Caldari effort. But I must make it clear to him that absolute loyalty must be...absolute. We cannot allow such small minors as unruly corporations undo what we are starting to build here. Not implying his is unruly. But we just briefly spoke and I did not have a sit down with him and hash things out. We just had a quick conversation. I've been getting more responses from individuals who are interested in the Caldari corp than I do whole corporations themselves. I encourage them to come here and talk with us. I have received in game mail from a couple of mercenaries who are wondering if the Caldari corp is going to happen. Possibly we need to just create one or start filling the ranks of a corporation already created. An already created corporation could entice players to join if they see us wave the banner. Of course, it goes without mentioning, that the already established Caldari loyalist corporations are not under the consideration of recruitment. In other words, I'm looking to pull in players who are separately pursuing this goal who want to join us. A unified effort brings folks together once they start seeing popular names or "locals" of the forum have the same corporation title underneath their mercenaries IDs. So I will continue randomly getting into a squad with random players in FW and sending the message across that a unified effort is underway and they should join us. Any thoughts or suggestions? From my perspective I suggest that we need to seek out individuals that are looking to support the Caldari cause. There is no need to seek help from powerful corporations that may or may not be loyal to the cause. We should rally our supporters and make them fight for the Caldari State. What I'm getting at is that we (the supporters) should start a new corporation. We will start our loyal corporation and support the State! Sorry my true Caldari came out. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.19 02:57:00 -
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To be honest, I'm willing to leave the L.E.G.I.O.N so I could support the cause. As for the name I'm not sure. One question, are we only going to support the Caldari cause or are we going to help our Amarrian brothers because I know the Scions of Athra would be willing to help us organize. Only if we are supporting the Empire. Your thoughts? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:28:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Nemo Nauticlone wrote:just some advice here from experience. The CEO needs to have the corporation skills MAXED OUT. It is also better is an EVE Pilot is CEO due to Capsuleers having more abilities as far as corp management (they get extra tabs to play with).
On a side note, the State is a confederacy of corporations and I feel like Kirjuun Heiian is a smaller version of this ideal. I would propose that this new corp, whatever it be named, be a meeting ground for all mercs who simply want to support the State. make this corp a coalition of Caldari aligned merceneries within the Kirjuun coalition.
I also have a question, this new corp. is it going to be a "training corp" ? that is to say, is it going to exist solely for lone mercs who want to fight under the glory of the Caldari banner or will we use it to filter out those who are not truly loyal to the cause before they are brought into the other members corporations of Kirjuun Heiian? and yes a meeting is in order and is scheduled for a week and a half from now as per the first meeting of the Kirjuun Heiian representatives. Agreed about the CEO and maxed out skills. That's why I said SP is a factor here. To be perfectly honest with you, I think mercenaries of New Eden rather the CEO comes from Dust instead of EVE. There's that gray area that some might not like since they are not of the same group. It's like going to a military bar and you're a Marine seeing a bar full of Navy guys. Overall, you're thinking exactly what I'm thinking. That's my idea of the corporation. That it will be a coalition of Caldari loyalists fighting for one cause. If only we were able to have some leniency in this matter and have the ability to be involved in two corps. I know some mercs are willing to fight for the Caldari and help but they might be comfortable in the home corps. Alas, we can't have it all. I believe a training corp is necessary as numbers grow. At this time, the distinction cannot be made clear. What I mean (stand by, I'm gathering thoughts on how to express this clearly)...I think a training corp will be ahead of the game since this is the start of the corporation. I want to get guys involved first and then once we start to get the gears turning and mercenaries begin showing their skills, we make the call then. The one thing I want to avoid at all costs is the arrogance- I'm way better than you, disruptive attitude that the elite corps show time and time again. I see that alot with elite corps and its a big turn off. Sorry if I seemed to go off on a deep end there. I just don't want that kind of childish stuff happening with this corp. As far as "policing". Maybe selected individuals police the corp? Have our own set of spies in a sense that are able to ween out who are loyal and who are not. What you think? I'm open to suggestions and comments on what I posted. There is a need for secret police. For example the Soviet Union's Cheka. (secret police) When communism still existed in Eastern Europe you couldn't say anything negative towards the Union. There are ordinary people walking about in the Union but no one knows they are a part of the Cheka. If we used this method in Dust 514 only a few Caldari secret police will be evaluating new players and old to see if they are loyal to the cause. If we find them guilty we will just boot them because sadly we can't execute them, amputate there body parts, and burn them like the Soviet Union did. I think we could pull this off. Your thoughts? |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.20 00:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Ku Shala wrote:Its like your reading my mind. when/ if a training corp is involved I would like it to be a goal for the academy mercs to be in the "elite" corp with some kind of benifit like a lower / no tax rate. Also allowing players that are experienced (have enough skill points to build effective suits and have basic understanding of combat ) and loyal rather than only the best. Eventually numbers will be part of the game too. If the Gallantes cannot match the number of mercs deploying they will lose ground.
I only hope CCP has better merc data accessible in the future so you can see loyalty points and othe important data when hiring mercs.
The Ghost CEO is an excellent idea and a corporation could greatly benifit from an EVE side holder. As metion before they have more options for control and with corporation growth can make locked mutual voice channels between the "Academy" Corp and the "Main". Maybe the CEO postion could be given to someone who plays on both EVE and 514.
One detail that is very important to me is that any money that is collected from tax if any is somehow benifitting the corporation and its contributers and not lining somebodys personal pocket. Hey I like that. Great suggestion. Someone who plays EVE and Dust would be great. That's best, yes. I wholeheartedly agree about the corporation's wallet. We DO NOT want it to be a bank account for someone to just line their pockets with. Good suggestions Ku Shala. As for the ghost CEO we could use the method that the Caldari used, we can create an oligarchy. Which means ruled by the few. This few will be the top of the line players our corporation has to offer. So there won't be just one leader, there will be multiple leaders. These leaders have the same power the other ones have so there wouldn't be any feuds about who is the leader. Your thoughts? |
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Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:07:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:Solitar Greywatch wrote:As for the ghost CEO we could use the method that the Caldari used, we can create an oligarchy. Which means ruled by the few. This few will be the top of the line players our corporation has to offer. So there won't be just one leader, there will be multiple leaders. These leaders have the same power the other ones have so there wouldn't be any feuds about who is the leader. Your thoughts? That is the plan, the future to hold a democratic senate. May our veiws remain in the best interest of the Caldari. Let us unite and take back what is rightfully ours. For the State! 07 For the State o7 |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:54:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Ku Shala wrote:the council doesn't need to be restricted to numbers as long as its uneven, we can vote in pairs council members as required.
Certinly between us we can more than fund any cost involved in making a new corp as I don't believe you can rename a corp with members in it.
A head count of the people that wish to be involved in the council would be greatly appreciated ( Arck, Madson, Greywatch, and myself ,I would assume are in).
Does anyone know of a Capsuleer that would be interested ( with the required skills ) to become our Ghost/ 5th council member ? I believe Jane is in as well. We'll confirm with her later. To be honest, I am a foreigner when it comes to EVE. The only one I know of is from the Cal meeting we had a couple of weeks back. Her name was Lady Rohk(sp). In the meeting, she seemed game for organization for the Caldari. I think she would get involved but again, I have no way of contacting her unless I see her on comms. She's in my alliance if you want I can let her know you want to contact her Excellent! Everybody listen up. I host this operation that my squad mates and I call Friday night ops. We start this every Friday at 8:00 Pacific Standard Time. We will discuss the matter at hand. I hope I'll see you guys tonight in the Caldari FW chat. Bring a mic if you have one. See you guys there. |
Solitar Greywatch
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:56:00 -
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We could reschedule this tomorrow or Sunday. It's a pain looking for Caldari corporation mercs as it is. |
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Posted - 2013.12.21 18:22:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Pryde: One last thing: EVE skills work differently that DUST skills. Ours is not "you get the SP's and use it all at the same time to get the skill", it's time-based. I can train a skill while offline, but it will take TIME. Example: When I first got the Corporation Management skillbook, it took 8 minutes, almost 9, to train to level one. So, it might take me several days to max out my skills. Also, I can't do more than put a skill down if I have a all 24 of the next hours used. I can do something like 30 min, 1hr, 2:30, 8hr, 3days, but nothing more than that. Of course, some skills take longer than 3 days, I saw a rumor of a 60 day skill, so there is that.
So, with that, I will train the Corp skills as fast as I can, but it will take time. I will tell you when I'm capped out.
Also, one last thing: Are we going to join an Alliance? Or make our own? Or simply join the Militia? That is something I will need to know as "CEO", since I can do all three. I will join the Militia with the corp, regardless, for our Capsuleers, but the other two need answering, at least. For the State. o7 I have a strong feeling that if we do consider to join an alliance we would get involved in politics. That being said if we don't join an alliance then we will have nobody covering our six. Your thoughts? For the State! o7 |
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