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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1897
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:12:00 -
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All folks who have created a corporation or are looking for Caldari corporation to assist in FW, please post and state your name.
I have noticed that there are some Caldari corporations each looking to do the same thing. I believe we need to focus the direction here into one streamlined pursuit.
Thank you in advance for your replies. |
Captain Caldari Prime
Exiled Veteran Elite
0
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:15:00 -
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The Boss @ Exiled Veteran Elite
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Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
658
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Posted - 2013.11.26 17:16:00 -
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0/ Awaiting Orders Captain
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Serving Caldari State
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4360
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:16:00 -
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State Patriots, Dead Six Initiative, Exiled Veteran Elite
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
162
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Posted - 2013.11.26 23:43:00 -
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Jane Madson, Dirty Laundry 514 John Madson, Dirty Laundry 514
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1905
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Posted - 2013.11.28 00:25:00 -
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Thank you all for the replies. I'm just wondering, what can we do to merge all players who seek the same end goal? We each seem to be pursuing this separately, trying to build our own corporation's name.
We need to brainstorm some ideas. Really get the ball rolling on this.
Please feel free to share ideas and concerns. Do we want on the best name for a corporation and then all join? How can we get people in the Caldari Hierarchy channel to join this mission?
Let's really get down to business and see what is possible. |
Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
171
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Posted - 2013.11.28 01:58:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Thank you all for the replies. I'm just wondering, what can we do to merge all players who seek the same end goal? We each seem to be pursuing this separately, trying to build our own corporation's name.
We need to brainstorm some ideas. Really get the ball rolling on this.
Please feel free to share ideas and concerns. Do we want vote on the best name for a corporation and then all join? Maybe have a training corporation besides the corporation for FW. How can we get people in the Caldari Hierarchy channel to join this mission?
Or do you have a better idea for this renaissance?
Let's really get down to business and see what is possible. Starting a Caldari coalition corp would be cool, but will also be difficult. Try to get members for a corp out of the caldari channel would be dificult also, quite a few of them are in large corps to begin with. But i think once the fw changes happen, it will draw more players in just because of the new market, leaderboards and loyalty points. FW could end up replacing PC for alot of players. Those are the ones that need to be recruited into the Caldari cause. We need to keep posting ideals on how we can acomplish this.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Leithe Askarii
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
45
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Posted - 2013.11.28 02:17:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Thank you all for the replies. I'm just wondering, what can we do to merge all players who seek the same end goal? We each seem to be pursuing this separately, trying to build our own corporation's name.
We need to brainstorm some ideas. Really get the ball rolling on this.
Please feel free to share ideas and concerns. Do we want vote on the best name for a corporation and then all join? Maybe have a training corporation besides the corporation for FW. How can we get people in the Caldari Hierarchy channel to join this mission?
Or do you have a better idea for this renaissance?
Let's really get down to business and see what is possible.
Dead Six will never fold into another corp. They already are the executor corp of Lokun Listamenn. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1907
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Posted - 2013.11.28 03:33:00 -
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Jane Madson wrote: Starting a Caldari coalition corp would be cool, but will also be difficult. Try to get members for a corp out of the caldari channel would be dificult also, quite a few of them are in large corps to begin with. But i think once the fw changes happen, it will draw more players in just because of the new market, leaderboards and loyalty points. FW could end up replacing PC for alot of players. Those are the ones that need to be recruited into the Caldari cause. We need to keep posting ideals on how we can acomplish this.
Yea, it is quite difficult as I am learning. That's exactly what I'm thinking as well, that the changes to FW could help jumpstart this. I was hoping that a corporation would be created before the new FW makes an appearance. That would help in getting everyone acclimated to the various playstyles and see where we could improve to dominate in FW. We need a corporation that is voice and representation of Caldari in the FW. Not just random guys jumping in with random squads.
If we lead, they will follow.
It is also difficult for serious players to commit when we will have to use the pub matches to fund the cause for our mercenaries. I do know we will get LPs but still ISK needs to be generated. I feel a pub match is a pub match but some serious RP mercenaries could have a different perspective than I. Maybe the pub matches fund us until we get good working with each other and then we shift to PC for the glory of the State?
I have a corporation I would like to join but after seeing your thread Jane and another who is looking for the same thing, I held off to see if I can try just one more time to get this up and running. If somehow we can get a corporations assimilated into one for Caldari FW.
I don't know, just spilling out some thoughts and ideas about it.
Leithe Askarii wrote:
Dead Six will never fold into another corp. They already are the executor corp of Lokun Listamenn.
Though I doubt they would be adverse to having corps join Lokun with the express purpose of Cal FW, which when I was a director was what the corp was founded on.
Understandable. But we need another corporation with a different approach. I do commend Dead Six on their efforts and salute them but honestly, not too many folks know about them. Plus, it seems that Dead Six is more of a secret society. Meaning, only a few are allowed into the ranks.
I would prefer a corporation that welcomes all Caldari who are interested in fighting for our State. No matter the skill level, SP, and KDR.
But I say that without excluding Dead Six from the idea. That's just my opinion on the perspective. We need a force. A face of the Caldari that everyone knows.
Again, just throwing some perspectives out there to get down to a base idea.
All comments are definitely appreciated.
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Jacques Cayton II
Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors
134
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Posted - 2013.11.28 06:32:00 -
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Providence Guard is an Eve Fw group looking for mercs to fight for their alliance templis dragonaors. I'm originally a dustbunny who stumbled across them they have pilots who want to use us to take districts and to drop orbitals.
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4382
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Posted - 2013.11.28 07:36:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Jane Madson wrote: Starting a Caldari coalition corp would be cool, but will also be difficult. Try to get members for a corp out of the caldari channel would be dificult also, quite a few of them are in large corps to begin with. But i think once the fw changes happen, it will draw more players in just because of the new market, leaderboards and loyalty points. FW could end up replacing PC for alot of players. Those are the ones that need to be recruited into the Caldari cause. We need to keep posting ideals on how we can acomplish this.
Yea, it is quite difficult as I am learning. That's exactly what I'm thinking as well, that the changes to FW could help jumpstart this. I was hoping that a corporation would be created before the new FW makes an appearance. That would help in getting everyone acclimated to the various playstyles and see where we could improve to dominate in FW. We need a corporation that is voice and representation of Caldari in the FW. Not just random guys jumping in with random squads. If we lead, they will follow. It is also difficult for serious players to commit when we will have to use the pub matches to fund the cause for our mercenaries. I do know we will get LPs but still ISK needs to be generated. I feel a pub match is a pub match but some serious RP mercenaries could have a different perspective than I. Maybe the pub matches fund us until we get good working with each other and then we shift to PC for the glory of the State? I have a corporation I would like to join but after seeing your thread Jane and another who is looking for the same thing, I held off to see if I can try just one more time to get this up and running. If somehow we can get a corporations assimilated into one for Caldari FW. I don't know, just spilling out some thoughts and ideas about it. Leithe Askarii wrote:
Dead Six will never fold into another corp. They already are the executor corp of Lokun Listamenn.
Though I doubt they would be adverse to having corps join Lokun with the express purpose of Cal FW, which when I was a director was what the corp was founded on.
Understandable. But we need another corporation with a different approach. I do commend Dead Six on their efforts and salute them but honestly, not too many folks know about them. Plus, it seems that Dead Six is more of a secret society. Meaning, only a few are allowed into the ranks. I would prefer a corporation that welcomes all Caldari who are interested in fighting for our State. No matter the skill level, SP, and KDR. But I say that without excluding Dead Six from the idea. That's just my opinion on the perspective. We need a force. A face of the Caldari that everyone knows. Again, just throwing some perspectives out there to get down to a base idea. All comments are definitely appreciated.
Nah they're just more active EVE side. Thus far they were the only community/ alliance to even build their empire what it used to be) on the simple word FUNSIES!
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1908
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Posted - 2013.11.28 07:40:00 -
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Thanks for the clarification True. |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4384
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Posted - 2013.11.28 07:46:00 -
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I would love to try and help get the Caldari factions aligned and working together....but I don't think I have it in me to watch the inevitable burnout again of something I put effort into.....not to mention I hate ISK grinding......cause we're going to need money to do this.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1908
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Posted - 2013.11.28 07:59:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I would love to try and help get the Caldari factions aligned and working together....but I don't think I have it in me to watch the inevitable burnout again of something I put effort into.....not to mention I hate ISK grinding......cause we're going to need money to do this.
I understand. Though am I wrong to assume that you are still leaning towards wanting to do so anyway? If its done right, don't you think that it will prevent the inevitable burnout?
Even as I say that, I know that's probably a lie I just said. But I'm hoping we all can learn from the mistakes and create something unprecedented in the New Eden universe. Yes, it has been done in EVE but to get it done in Dust; it's going to take some work but I think we can be organized. I might be ignorant in saying this but I do realize that console gamers seem to fail with organizing as opposed to PC gamers. Yet, that can be dismissed with the right people fighting for the Caldari...and of course our Amarrian brothers.
You see, I'm a passionate player (as you may well have read) and I truly believe that my will combined with others who feel the same could really change the aspect of FW. But that's hard to do when either you're A) not known or B) not widely popular.
The ISK grinding part can be done without your help, if that would be comfortable. For instance, we could have days set up to specifically ISK grind. We can have certain teammates that just work towards this goal. Maybe have two 6 person squads doing the work. If each person made 300K ISK per match and with two squads, we would make 3600000 per match.
Plus with taxes, we should be doing okay to get the ball rolling.
If we were to do this, your insight would be valuable to the cause True.
Again, just throwing some stuff out there. |
Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
173
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Posted - 2013.11.28 08:29:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:I would love to try and help get the Caldari factions aligned and working together....but I don't think I have it in me to watch the inevitable burnout again of something I put effort into.....not to mention I hate ISK grinding......cause we're going to need money to do this. I understand. Though am I wrong to assume that you are still leaning towards wanting to do so anyway? If its done right, don't you think that it will prevent the inevitable burnout? Even as I say that, I know that's probably a lie I just said. But I'm hoping we all can learn from the mistakes and create something unprecedented in the New Eden universe. Yes, it has been done in EVE but to get it done in Dust; it's going to take some work but I think we can be organized. I might be ignorant in saying this but I do realize that console gamers seem to fail with organizing as opposed to PC gamers. Yet, that can be dismissed with the right people fighting for the Caldari...and of course our Amarrian brothers. You see, I'm a passionate player (as you may well have read) and I truly believe that my will combined with others who feel the same could really change the aspect of FW. But that's hard to do when either you're A) not known or B) not widely popular. The ISK grinding part can be done without your help, if that would be comfortable. For instance, we could have days set up to specifically ISK grind. We can have certain teammates that just work towards this goal. Maybe have two 6 person squads doing the work. If each person made 300K ISK per match and with two squads, we would make 3600000 per match. Plus with taxes, we should be doing okay to get the ball rolling. If we were to do this, your insight would be valuable to the cause True. one way to isk grind is to set aside days where all members fight in starter our militia fits. All monies from those matches get donated to the corp plus the tax's. But to make this work, there needs to be at least 30 to45 active members in the corp that way 2 full squads could deploy at anytime. If we can come up with a good corp plan and a strong leadership structure, we could probsbly fold in some smaller indie corps who feel ceated out of pc and are looking to do somthing that matters besides pubs. I have no problem folding my corp or any of its current or future members into a Caldari corp if the sitiation is right. Again, just throwing some stuff out there.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1908
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Posted - 2013.11.28 08:40:00 -
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Yes you said it right. We need the right plan. We need strong leadership that is fair and wise. We also need players, who are not among the officers of the corporation, to understand their own roles within. It must be structured from top to bottom, with respect all around.
Who would make good directors? Who's a good people person that would do well in the recruiting aspect? What requirements should be put in place? Proper resolution plans for those days we have some infighting? Who can we talk to EVE side that would support our corporation?
(Hey Oswald, would you brainstorm with us?) |
Ku Shala
Exiled Veteran Elite
663
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Posted - 2013.11.28 17:57:00 -
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well I'm am not sure how alliance work dust side but some kind of mass alliance is in order. corporations will want to maintain independence in this fight and mass corps seem to have huge political problems.
we need to form platoons in secured channels comprised of the willing and trusted mercs fighting for our faction. leadership must be assigned and commanders need to reconise the players they can work well with.
additionally caldari hierarchy is not locked and is filled with more spies than loyalists. pilots cannot prform support without locations being comprimised and this is a huge problem that must be adressed before the limitation of orbital support to pilots. pilots and infantry both need to be voiced on the same channels to reduce the delays in orbital strikes to prevent off target strikes and eliminate friendly strike kills.
we need the infantry playerbase interesed in fighting this war to start practacing now and becoming familiar with the players involved. all differences aside Its hard to cordinate 2-3 squads right now as the interest in factional seems low currently or players are unwilling to work with players not in their corporation community
financial support from the eve side from megacorps could intice structure by forcing financial dictatorship.
First General of Exiled Veteran Elite
Loyalty Is not always rewarded
Serving Caldari State
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Jane Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
175
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Posted - 2013.11.28 18:42:00 -
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That probably the best course of action. With a secure channel and members we trust, being a part of 1 corp isnt that important, not if where all part of a coalition fighting for the same cause. But we will need eve side support, someone that can help set up an aliance between dust and eve pilots.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender
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Captain Caldari Prime
Exiled Veteran Elite
5
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Posted - 2013.11.28 20:04:00 -
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good or bad the more players playing factional on one side the more the tables will turn on eve side if the gallante cannot provide enough support in battles mercs will win matches unoppossed
The Boss @ Exiled Veteran Elite
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John Madson
DIRTY LAUNDRY 514
0
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Posted - 2013.11.28 20:34:00 -
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Been having great matches the past couple weeks, the fw matches i've been apart has gone well, almost 70% win percentage, i imagine its gotta be going on others servers also.(i play america). Alot better than the past where it was just the oppisite. I think more mercs are joining the Caldari cause( i also think alot of mercs burned out on pc). |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1927
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Posted - 2013.11.28 22:11:00 -
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Ku Shala wrote:well I'm am not sure how alliance work dust side but some kind of mass alliance is in order. corporations will want to maintain independence in this fight and mass corps seem to have huge political problems.
we need to form platoons in secured channels comprised of the willing and trusted mercs fighting for our faction. leadership must be assigned and commanders need to reconise the players they can work well with.
additionally caldari hierarchy is not locked and is filled with more spies than loyalists. pilots cannot prform support without locations being comprimised and this is a huge problem that must be adressed before the limitation of orbital support to pilots. pilots and infantry both need to be voiced on the same channels to reduce the delays in orbital strikes to prevent off target strikes and eliminate friendly strike kills.
we need the infantry playerbase interesed in fighting this war to start practacing now and becoming familiar with the players involved. all differences aside Its hard to cordinate 2-3 squads right now as the interest in factional seems low currently or players are unwilling to work with players not in their corporation community
financial support from the eve side from megacorps could intice structure by forcing financial dictatorship.
*slow applause* Great post. Thank you for your insight into the matter.
Is there a way we can eliminate spies? How do we "screen" recruits for a new comm channel?
I can't say it enough but thanks to those who are responding to this. I thought for a second this thread might be swept under the rug when it was first created. A shot in the dark. I am glad that I was wrong.
This is a good start we are having. I only hope that the winds continue to carry this sail.
Any ideas are appreciated, big or small. Also, if there are any concerns that you wish not to air out on this public thread, feel free, anyone of you, to send me in game mail. |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4399
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Posted - 2013.11.29 00:38:00 -
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I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1927
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Posted - 2013.11.29 02:12:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
But could it be argued that it is somewhat needed? To prevent what happens all too much with other corporations? I believe you and few others who have spoken here don't need it all. Not everybody maintains the proper decorum within corporations though. Of course I'm not trying to turn it into Stalin's dream but I do believe some order and discipline is needed or we will just be another "good dream but no execution" corp who crushes itself under its own weight.
Unless, I am misunderstanding what you are saying.
What's your thoughts? |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4402
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:22:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote: I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
But could it be argued that it is somewhat needed? To prevent what happens all too much with other corporations? I believe you and few others who have spoken here don't need it all. Not everybody maintains the proper decorum within corporations though. Of course I'm not trying to turn it into Stalin's dream but I do believe some order and discipline is needed or we will just be another "good dream but no execution" corp who crushes itself under its own weight. Unless, I am misunderstanding what you are saying. What's your thoughts?
Caldari philosophy is that the one, wholeness, survives where the many struggle and die.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1931
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote: I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
But could it be argued that it is somewhat needed? To prevent what happens all too much with other corporations? I believe you and few others who have spoken here don't need it all. Not everybody maintains the proper decorum within corporations though. Of course I'm not trying to turn it into Stalin's dream but I do believe some order and discipline is needed or we will just be another "good dream but no execution" corp who crushes itself under its own weight. Unless, I am misunderstanding what you are saying. What's your thoughts? Caldari philosophy is that the one, wholeness, survives where the many struggle and die.
Couldn't it be argued that we are showing the truth of that philosophy now?
Within reason we can allow different perspective so long as the bottom line is still pursued. |
True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4403
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote: I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
But could it be argued that it is somewhat needed? To prevent what happens all too much with other corporations? I believe you and few others who have spoken here don't need it all. Not everybody maintains the proper decorum within corporations though. Of course I'm not trying to turn it into Stalin's dream but I do believe some order and discipline is needed or we will just be another "good dream but no execution" corp who crushes itself under its own weight. Unless, I am misunderstanding what you are saying. What's your thoughts? Caldari philosophy is that the one, wholeness, survives where the many struggle and die. Couldn't it be argued that we are showing the truth of that philosophy now? Within reason we can allow different perspective so long as the bottom line is still pursued.
Lol one day I will have to have this argument with you for the fun of it but now I wont. I will wait to see what 1.7 brings me and then either commit to the cause or not on my alt Leithe.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1931
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote: I don't believe Autonomy is best.....unity while not necessarily the most enjoyable method of doing it is the more effective route.
As Robert Baratheon said "Which number is greater 5 or 1?"
But could it be argued that it is somewhat needed? To prevent what happens all too much with other corporations? I believe you and few others who have spoken here don't need it all. Not everybody maintains the proper decorum within corporations though. Of course I'm not trying to turn it into Stalin's dream but I do believe some order and discipline is needed or we will just be another "good dream but no execution" corp who crushes itself under its own weight. Unless, I am misunderstanding what you are saying. What's your thoughts? Caldari philosophy is that the one, wholeness, survives where the many struggle and die. Couldn't it be argued that we are showing the truth of that philosophy now? Within reason we can allow different perspective so long as the bottom line is still pursued. Lol one day I will have to have this argument with you for the fun of it but now I wont. I will wait to see what 1.7 brings me and then either commit to the cause or not on my alt Leithe.
As you wish, ally. We will speak further then. Hopefully Leithe will join this renaissance. o7
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1286
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:47:00 -
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Fight for Amarr and Cal
For the Empire
Dual tanking is a sin
(Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Noobs GTFO of Amarr FW
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True Adamance
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
4406
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Posted - 2013.11.29 03:47:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:
As you wish, ally. We will speak further then. Hopefully Leithe will join this renaissance. o7
He might if he isn't between Crystal Egg shipments.... its the only thing that keeps him going. I tried to tell me he was better than that, and that he could beat the addiction but he won't listen.
"All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1932
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Posted - 2013.11.29 04:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:
As you wish, ally. We will speak further then. Hopefully Leithe will join this renaissance. o7
He might if he isn't between Crystal Egg shipments.... its the only thing that keeps him going. I tried to tell me he was better than that, and that he could beat the addiction but he won't listen.
Cure my ignorance... |
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