Black people were once slaves, do you think their ancestors look at the black people of today and say 'I took my beatings and so should they' ? They did something about it so future generations wouldn't have to go through the same thing

If something is wrong it doesn't matter if you went through it or not it doesn't justify putting others through it too

You just sound bitter and rather than fixing the problem so others don't have to go through what you did you actually want them to have to go through it too ...

I don't get it. Don't you even want a challenge? Doesn't stomping get boring?

Alright I'll give you that but then another question arises then. Why put an suit so powerful in game if its such a sin to use them?

I'm all for squadless mode and tier locked matches, just sayin' CCP.

You just have to be the bigger tryhard.

I now have 721 shield and 809 armour with a Duvolle.

I won't be able to move very fast but come at me tryhards.

I don't believe in locking equipment tiers, this is New Eden.

But it's not just fresh from academy guys that deal with this. I truly believe a sqadless mode will bring a lot more balance to all involved.

One of the big problems i see is that amount of ISK farming in PC corps. Having an unlimited supply of ISK only enables players to run pro to 24/7.

A lot of guys from no name corps with no foothold in PC can run proto gear but the ISK requirements are to much unless involved in a PC farm.

I like using Proto gear, not because it makes me feel good (I've gone 49-4, 32-1, 25-2 with Advanced gear) at this game, but because I like the gear better. The Imperial is just so fun...

So having just experienced the problem to a huge degree, I must say it has got to be incredibly frustrating. I just started a pub match, and instantly (and I'm serious, IT WAS INSTANTLY) died every time I spawned. I'm running an ADV gallente logi, stacked armor mods and some (undisclosed) proto gear. Nevertheless, I died as soon as I spawned, using the smart spawn option (not just spawning in to some dumb drop uplink in a bad position).

This creates several significant problems. It was frustrating, and that isn't the point. If I wasn't running the gear I was, I might not have gone 1 and 4, so if I was a new player, this would have been impossible. Instantly spawning and dying isn't worth the time of any gamer. If you aren't spawned in to the beginning of a match, you could find yourself on the end of a Duvolle, and that is the big problem. In order for this game to last, there has to be some distinction, so an entire team can hold off a squad of vets. I'm don't mean to say, "WE NEED TO STOP THE PROTOSTOMPING WTF I HATE DYING," I mean to say that the long term vision of this game is hurt by the fact that new players are turned away by matches like mine...

This is why I play FW more. There's always squads on both sides. Well it's like most of the time. Sometimes I get proto stomped in FW but not as bad at pub matches. Plus FW is more fun as well as good competition.

pub stomping exists in the all mighty battlefield as well

Every time I see a stop the stomping thread I think about when I first joined in Chromosome.... And then without mercy continue to stomp the living hell out of those new berries with my proto LR & Scr. Why you not give the new guys a chance you ask? Because I went through the same sh!t.... I TOOOK MY BEATINGS LIKE A GOOD OL' BOY WHY CANT THEY!!!!








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Really now... Back then if you didnt have a Lr or an shield/speed tank caldari Ar suit you were ******.

You know what your right I am an a**hole in real life.

Grow the **** up? Dude your telling this to a teenager.

Dont need to be the macho alpha male I was always the recessive sneaky type of guy(I have a older brother whos 3x my size with ADHD and anger issues the only way I could get him back was by waiting and being sneaky).

Last time I check a militia Ar couldn't even touch a proto suit back then.

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I don't think it's so much prototype gear making the matches one-sided, its the fact that it always seems like squads are always put on the same side. Almost every time I run solo, my team is all randoms, and the enemy team has 1-2 squads. Whenever I run in a squad, we usually have another squad against all randoms. I RARELY get to play squad vs squad matches, which are 100x more fun than stomping/getting stomped. It doesn't matter if you're running standard or proto, 1-2 squads vs all randoms will be a stomp every time.

I've been watching the protostomp threads for a bit and I kinda have to ask... Isn't this simply a consistent hallmark of New Eden? It's certainly how things work in EVE from my understanding.

My opinon is that for the ambush and skirmish modes there is an alternate option of "individual contract" and you can't synch in a sqd but once in the match you can join one.

Consider this... Proto gear is far less dangerous to new players than an experienced squad fighting together in standard gear. If you've put in the time and effort to attain upper tier kit and have built friendships with other players (a major point of the game) why do we want to prevent people from using these things?

Too be clear I'm not advocating protostomps, just asking a question.

Protostomping is bad for the game, new players will simply not stick around to get their asses beat down day in and day out.

I would suspect that people getting stomped actually break down the math on how long it would take them to attain a similar level of gear, and then quit.

Being forcibly slowed in your progression so that CCP can sell boosters forces players to decide very early on if they want to stay in the game or not.

The problem is that nobody wants to grind out this amount of SP against Stacked Squads of Vets with all Core Skills who run Proto 24/7.

Players want to play against other players who are relatively close to them in terms of SP and Gear. Players want to be in challenging, but still competitive matches, not be ROFL stomped every single time they play.