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Karl Marx II
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Posted - 2013.11.17 10:57:00 -
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8213 wrote:I don't mind it, because I can always use my own Protogear, or just switch to a starter fit. I only play pubs when I feel like playing not so seriously, and to grind some ISK.
But going against an ENTIRE(all16) team of Prototype is ridiculous. The protostompers need to just knock it off, you're getting nowhere by doing it and you are hurting the game by being selfish a**holes. Seriously, what's the point of doing it? I seriously look at what's going on and have nothing but personal disdain for this pathetic behavior. Who is impressed with stomping noobs in Starter fits? Do you actually try to pretend you're good when doing it? Is it some sort of accomplishment in your world? Pubstomping is wrong, 100%. It will only drive the playerbase even lower, than these guys will have to go back to games with more players on it and be the loser they were there all over again.
And to CCP. This is 100% YOUR FAULT. How can a match making system be this one-sided? Has anyone been in a match in a pub that actually was even remotely close? How are people who have less than 50 days play time being put on one team, and stacked squads of players who have over a year's play time being put all on the other side? game, after game, after game, after game...
I understand that CCP thought it was a good idea to make a game that was purposely unbalanced and unfair, but like most of everything they have done with DUST 514, they never thought it through. CCP, you know why you can't keep players on this game. How long is this joke of an experiment going to last? How is it that you can even afford to build this game with <5,000 people playing this game WORLDWIDE on any given day?
You know the answer, so why haven't you corrected it? How hard is it to make a match making system that balances out squads and time played in game? Having a low playerbase is not an reason either, that is an excuse.
Join the AFK in the MCC in pubgames on Wednesday's protest or AFK Wednesdays for short ..
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Karl Marx II
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Posted - 2013.11.17 11:06:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Every time I see a stop the stomping thread I think about when I first joined in Chromosome.... And then without mercy continue to stomp the living hell out of those new berries with my proto LR & Scr. Why you not give the new guys a chance you ask? Because I went through the same sh!t.... I TOOOK MY BEATINGS LIKE A GOOD OL' BOY WHY CANT THEY!!!! WELCOME TO NEW EDEN
Black people were once slaves, do you think their ancestors look at the black people of today and say 'I took my beatings and so should they' ? They did something about it so future generations wouldn't have to go through the same thing
If something is wrong it doesn't matter if you went through it or not it doesn't justify putting others through it too
You just sound bitter and rather than fixing the problem so others don't have to go through what you did you actually want them to have to go through it too ...
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Karl Marx II
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Posted - 2013.11.17 14:28:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Karl Marx II wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Every time I see a stop the stomping thread I think about when I first joined in Chromosome.... And then without mercy continue to stomp the living hell out of those new berries with my proto LR & Scr. Why you not give the new guys a chance you ask? Because I went through the same sh!t.... I TOOOK MY BEATINGS LIKE A GOOD OL' BOY WHY CANT THEY!!!! WELCOME TO NEW EDEN Black people were once slaves, do you think their ancestors look at the black people of today and say 'I took my beatings and so should they' ? They did something about it so future generations wouldn't have to go through the same thing If something is wrong it doesn't matter if you went through it or not it doesn't justify putting others through it too You just sound bitter and rather than fixing the problem so others don't have to go through what you did you actually want them to have to go through it too ... Alright I'll give you that but then another question arises then. Why put an suit so powerful in game if its such a sin to use them?
Proto gear was never intended to be able to be used so easily in public games it was always intended to be for certain situations where it was needed like in PC or FW ... alot of broken mechanics have led to it being as easy as it currently is to use in pubgames and it is this that is the problem ...
The players doing it wont stop because they believe that just because they can and because CCP haven't done anything to stop means that it is fine .. I saw a great quote from someone .. 'I beat up my children and because the police haven't stopped me that means that it is fine for me to do it' therefore the only way to stop it is to make it so that they can't do it .. they have abused a broken mechanic for so long that it has led to a declining playerbase and is killing the game
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Karl Marx II
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Posted - 2013.11.18 08:05:00 -
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echo47 wrote:When you first start playing you have fewer skill points , you will die more matchmaking will not change this.
What will make a difference is if you learn from it. If your first reaction to several poor games in a row is to come to the forum and cry about it, quit and send childish emails stop playing, I donGÇÖt want you on my team.
I have been on both sides stomped and stomping. I play solo because I find it more of a challenge. Being stomped and on the stomping side I have learned how important uplinks are. And which null cannons on the map are the most important to control to win. The stomps and red lining that take place is not always due to gear or skill points. ItGÇÖs a small part of it. Most of the time its poor game play, and a lack of team work. The sooner we all admit that the sooner we can find solutions.
For example on a map with 5 objectives how often have you seen entire squads run and hack the first open turret or null cannon instead of making an attempt to control the city? Already knowing your team is outmatched. Or, heavies, sentinels and commandos running across the field from the MCC. How about the single player in an LAV that drives right past said heavy at the start of the match. Meanwhile the other team is setting up shop, with nano hives and uplinks on the main objectives. Or the best I have seen, locked squads with two people in them. Another good one is the squad commander not giving squad orders.
If your team is outmatched that is the time to be the most aggressive stick with your team mates and blob right back. No amount of affirmative action matchmaking or artificial gameplay barriers will fix this. Take some responsibility for being stomped and learn from it. Devs can't and shouldn't control the decisions players make in game.
Facepalm , right now the matchmaking sticks 2 stacked squads of guys in full proto v 16 randoms .. how exactly is that not broken ???????
Have you actually re read your post at all ? You say it's a learning curve right but throwing new players against the most experienced players in the game every match isn't a learning curve it's torture .. they need SOMETHING ELSE to do other than being steamrolled constantly .. if you put players against others of a similar sp level then the problem would be fixed .. the issue is throwing new players to the wolves for months on end because they simply will not continue to play a game they don't enjoy
look at these stats and tell me the current system is working http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Hard to argue that everything is fine as it is when the player base has been on a gradual decline over the past 6 months isn't it ?
HTFU doesn't work on a F2P game .. most people have nothing invested but time and will simply walk away
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