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Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 208	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:00:00 - [31] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Let's be honest here, the logistics suit needs SOME kind of nerf. I am not specifying ANYTHING before anyone flies off the handle on me, but I am interested to see what other people think the best choice of nerf would be. I've already heard the following: -Only a sidearm weapon. -Reduced WPs for kills and greater WPs for support -Must fill all equipment slots to be a valid fitting. -50% reduced damage like the Logistics LAVs -Change the current +1 armor repair per level to the current Gallente -5% equipment CPU/PG usage per level I'm not saying you have to choose from my list, I'm just saying that I've already heard these ideas, and if you suggest them, please provide a reasonable argument. Take the yellow off.
OSGR Valdez MoIden Heath PoIice Department EoN. 72	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:02:00 - [32] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: The only one that is needed is the Armor tankers still need a build in enhanced armor repper, and for the bonus, it needs a CPU/PG reduction. That is ALL. The Caldari Logistics can have an armor repair rate of ZERO. As if the Cal logi wasn't nerfed enough as it is..
Defy Gravity Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:03:00 - [33] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more *. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) So logi can't use shotgun? Can't use mass driver? Can go to depot an get swarm launcher cuz stupid assault teammates never skilled one? Think about what your asking for! Remove AR is what you want , let's be honest, what you gonna do when logis start spamming core nades , an remotes an faylocks with 4 damage mods , need that too? Think ! I am thinking and I think this is the way to go. ShotGun is more of a Scout/Assault role MassDriver is more of an Assault role The thing about the swarm launcher at the the supply depot. You have to either stay away or provide ammo for anyone thats shooting at it. [] Flaylocks are useless. Nuff Said. GÇ£War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.GÇ¥ GÇò George Orwell
Rusty Shallows Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 462	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:04:00 - [34] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: snip -Must fill all equipment slots to be a valid fitting. snip That really isn't a nerf. Unless the job Logi itself is a nerf. On my Alt all three equipment slots are filled on every fit. Not everything gets used each battle but I'm happy enough when they are. Alternatively the Devs could just boost the cpu/grid on Assault Suits. "She may not be Miss Right but she'll do right now," Thank you SR-71
Cosgar ParagonX 7139	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:06:00 - [35] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more **. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) They use CaLogis because that suit was super OP in early uprising. The slot layout is still questionable at best (should be 5H/3L/4E, opposite of GaLogi) but was re-balanced while all logis took a recharge delay nerf. The logisault issue has been fixed, but misinformed players butthurt over dying to a yellow suit carry a torch. They hate us for getting more WP, they hate us for being able to carry more equipment, they hate us for getting kills when they think yellow = easy kill. Stop looking for free kills in an FPS with these per-concieved notions that a logistics class should be tethered to a heavy or a squad's personal pack mule. There's no Geneva Convention in New Eden. Grow a pair and stop crying. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 474	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:07:00 - [36] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more . Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) lol at "intended" role. Who decides that? You? Whatever man..... it's not a ***** medic. It's a logistics role. That can be a lot of things.... The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1036	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:12:00 - [37] - Quote ^ says you. Just cuz a idiot say s something is true, doesn't necessarily make it so.
DEA Scott Richardson Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:14:00 - [38] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: OZAROW wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more *. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) So logi can't use shotgun? Can't use mass driver? Can go to depot an get swarm launcher cuz stupid assault teammates never skilled one? Think about what your asking for! Remove AR is what you want , let's be honest, what you gonna do when logis start spamming core nades , an remotes an faylocks with 4 damage mods , need that too? Think ! I am thinking and I think this is the way to go. ShotGun is more of a Scout/Assault role MassDriver is more of an Assault role The thing about the swarm launcher at the the supply depot. You have to either stay away or provide ammo for anyone thats shooting at it. [] Flaylocks are useless. Nuff Said.
DEA Scott Richardson Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:15:00 - [39] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more **. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) 1+
Cosgar ParagonX 7141	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:17:00 - [40] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more . Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) lol at "intended" role. Who decides that? You? Whatever man..... it's not a ***** medic. It's a logistics role. That can be a lot of things.... Intended role is what gave heavies a paintball gun. Intended role is what made scouts into paper thin suits- no faster than medium frames. Intended role is what took away marauder vehicles in exchange for militia HAV with an extra slot and no PG to equip anything. Intended role is what makes assault with an AR king and assaults are too dense to realize it. What's the point of being able to skill into anything and everything to theory craft different fittings when you're only limited to an intended role? I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"

AOD oOPimpMacDaddyOo Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:18:00 - [41] - Quote Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more **. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) Yea I see alot of proto cldari logis that do not play there role. its like giving 2000HP to one guy and 2000DMG to one guy and putting the two together
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1036	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:18:00 - [42] - Quote So logis get smgs, pistols, nerfed faylocks an nova knives? Ok perfect what you gonna say when I'm kickingass with profile dampeners running over 9 with remotes an knives? Lol losers I swear, if logic cost money you would be broke and stupid
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1109	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:23:00 - [43] - Quote logies don't need a nerf, the other suits need a buff and equipment needs to be more pg/cpu intensive. insert witty or profound statement here _______.
Oswald Rehnquist 385	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:24:00 - [44] - Quote The Logis can make make a load out that can function in any lite role it wants, in this niche game no other suit has this versatility, that is why I think it gets heat, it is a suit that can specialize in anything it wants, whereas other suits are more restricted by design. I personally am not effective by it due to my preference for the scout suit which no suit really wants to mimic, the logi is no different than an assault for me in that if it sees you, you are dead, so I group medium frames as a single category because they function very similarly, the extra slots of the logi is not much different that the higher stats of the assault. Now back to why people rage on the logi is because The logi might not be thy best dps suit but it can scout and tank better than the assault suit. While the logi might not be the fastest suit, it it has more utility both in and out of combat than the scout suit. While the logi might not have thy highest tank, it can run and gun faster than the tank class. So you are looking at two things, 1) Buff the other suits up A) Assaults are pretty much set, they just need a general damage bonus and a racial weapon spec and no way could a logi ever compete with an assault again with the massive dps being able to clean logis in a second. B) Heavies just need actual weapons, light weapon damage resistance, and active hardeners. C) Scouts.... oh god where do I start, scouts need an entirely new mechanic that cant' be copied, like ewar or debuffer along with better stealth / disengagement abilities, then I think it would be able to break into high comp matches. 2) Make the logi suit one a niches instead of the versatile anything you want suit. I don't pretend to be an expert on how to best to work this since I am not a logi Below 28 dB
Seymor Krelborn DUST University Ivy League 1109	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:25:00 - [45] - Quote AOD oOPimpMacDaddyOo wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more . Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) Yea I see alot of proto cldari logis that do not play there role. its like giving 2000HP to one guy and 2000DMG to one guy and putting the two together this is a HUGE exaggeration... the most a cal logi can get is 1200 ehp... to do this they sacrifice all equipment and dmg mods. oh and a proto weapon.... insert witty or profound statement here _______**.
Cosgar ParagonX 7142	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:30:00 - [46] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: AOD oOPimpMacDaddyOo wrote: Defy Gravity wrote: Roofer Madness wrote: Cosgar wrote: Neither, I'm tired of seeing this game nerfed to the standards of assaults with rifles. Take your stand fellow logibros! Don't give these casual bastards an inch! I'm with Cosgar. i don't understand why you fools think limiting the logi role is some how going to make the other roles more appealing. Fix the broken **. Don't break more **. Because 80% Of people that use logi's use them as an assault. Not the intended role. I have a proto logi myself & I think limiting the WP for kills @ more for support would be better. And I like the idea of limitation to a side arm.... Its makes sense because you ARE support, not an ASSAULT. Okay Logi babies? grow up and play your role. Im always constantly playing with/against logis from high standing corps and ive noticed that they all use caldari logis as assaults and not LOGIS..... ( Lol MHPD, Lol EoN, Lol AE, Lol Sver, Lol Nyan ) Yea I see alot of proto cldari logis that do not play there role. its like giving 2000HP to one guy and 2000DMG to one guy and putting the two together this is a HUGE exaggeration... the most a cal logi can get is 1200 ehp... to do this they sacrifice all equipment and dmg mods. oh and a proto weapon.... And you'll get smoked by an assault with any real FPS skill. You might win the odd 1v1, but once you have to reload your one weapon, you're screwed because you'll just be a gimped assault without a sidearm. People like to neglect that assaults have sidearms, but ask any laser user how important one is. I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1036	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:38:00 - [47] - Quote This topic is outta control, give assaults a reduction to damage or a blueprint damage slot that is equal to the suit used that can't be removed or traded in their high slot. So you gotta run proto to get the free complex mod, basic gets basic, adv gets enh an starters get nothin. An scouts only get cloaking ability, done an done
sssbassil WarRavens League of Infamy 10	Posted - 2013.11.04 04:49:00 - [48] - Quote OZAROW wrote: This topic is outta control, give assaults a reduction to damage or a blueprint damage slot that is equal to the suit used that can't be removed or traded in their high slot. So you gotta run proto to get the free complex mod, basic gets basic, adv gets enh an starters get nothin. An scouts only get cloaking ability, done an done that mite work bro i would go back to my assault suit for a free build in damage mod
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1038	Posted - 2013.11.04 05:39:00 - [49] - Quote sssbassil wrote: OZAROW wrote: This topic is outta control, give assaults a reduction to damage or a blueprint damage slot that is equal to the suit used that can't be removed or traded in their high slot. So you gotta run proto to get the free complex mod, basic gets basic, adv gets enh an starters get nothin. An scouts only get cloaking ability, done an done that mite work bro i would go back to my assault suit for a free build in damage mod Lol you already rock 35% damage lol
Booby Tuesdays Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 356	Posted - 2013.11.04 06:04:00 - [50] - Quote LOL, the Logi hate. OMNOMNOM! On topic, make all Logi suits required to fit all equipment slots. Simple, done. My main purpose is to support, not kill. This does not mean I should not be able to kill! Give Assaults their GD 2nd equipment slot back (at Proto), and a lot of this Logi hate will go away. If the assaults and forum complainers get their way, and nerf us yet again, I want 25% of their warpoints when they spawn on my uplinks, get repaired/revived by my reppers and needles, or resupply with my nanohives. If you win the rat race, you're still a rat.

Roofer Madness A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 479	Posted - 2013.11.04 06:53:00 - [51] - Quote I think the main reason the logi "nerf" situation bothers me the most is because when it comes down to it, people are upset because the leader board at the end of the match goes by WP and not kills. Every one bitches about logi "slayers" but in reality you're upset because someone is beating you at the game with less kills and more points. All of these required equipment slots/sidearm only/fitting requirement "solutions" do NOT fix your problem. As long as the game is WP based and not kill based you will never be happy. As a logi you can, and should, pull at LEAST 1000 WP per match. No matter how many reds you kill. The good logis get the WPs and the kills. I rock a plasma cannon and routinely place Top 3 on the board at the end of a match. Is it because of kills? Hell no. But sometimes it is. Why take away the versatilty of my role because your role sucks so much? Simple fix. Make assaults better assaults. Make scouts better scouts. Make heavies better heavies. But DO NOT MAKE THE LOGI A ******* GIMPED SUPPORT CHARACTER. No one wants to play second fiddle to your kill streak. The Dust 514 AFK song Plasma Cannon FTW
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 287	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:08:00 - [52] - Quote Do not nerf Logis. Make them the standard to which every other class is balanced around. Which is to say, buff everybody but Logis. Because frankly, assaults are lacklustre (especially armour tanking ones, due to stupid shield bonus that is usless to half the races), scouts are stuck in an "everything we can do, a medium frame can do better"-state, and heavies have one impotent weapon and a useless bonus and can get downed in a second or two by a MLT AR. Don't nerf Logis 'cause every other class sucks. If logis are nerfed, then guess what? Assaults will still have that stupid shield bonus and no bonus to damage/tanking capacity, scouts are still without a defined role, and heavies will still be impotent. Which is to say, the problem will not be solved.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 907	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:10:00 - [53] - Quote Logi needs no nerf, we need rid of the Assault suit! The pen is mightier than the sword The gun is mightier than both
lDocHollidayl Ancient Exiles 338	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:15:00 - [54] - Quote No nerf, forcing suits into a role is anti MMO. One should be able to tank what they want and dps what they want and logi what they want...if though a heavy would make a bad logi let em try.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 1039	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:20:00 - [55] - Quote Roofer Madness wrote: I think the main reason the logi "nerf" situation bothers me the most is because when it comes down to it, people are upset because the leader board at the end of the match goes by WP and not kills. Every one bitches about logi "slayers" but in reality you're upset because someone is beating you at the game with less kills and more points. All of these required equipment slots/sidearm only/fitting requirement "solutions" do NOT fix your problem. As long as the game is WP based and not kill based you will never be happy. As a logi you can, and should, pull at LEAST 1000 WP per match. No matter how many reds you kill. The good logis get the WPs and the kills. I rock a plasma cannon and routinely place Top 3 on the board at the end of a match. Is it because of kills? Hell no. But sometimes it is. Why take away the versatilty of my role because your role sucks so much? Simple fix. Make assaults better assaults. Make scouts better scouts. Make heavies better heavies. But DO NOT MAKE THE LOGI A ******* GIMPED SUPPORT CHARACTER. No one wants to play second fiddle to your kill streak. Or....... People could be smart! Get a lv 1 logi for like 600000 sp fill two with uplink an hives, get a militia scout with speed mods. 1.Spawn fast scout deploy links 2. Take depot 3. Use both cheap logi dump equipment 4. Use assault suit I'm a scout an this is my routine every match, over 1000 points per match. The name of the game is strategy an spend points intelligently . Dust 514 for dummies
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 1215	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:49:00 - [56] - Quote I'd like none of those, get bent. If I had to choose I'd go for sidearm only. Level 1 forum warrior. Minmatar and Gallente fw. Fix PC lag please CCP.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 202	Posted - 2013.11.04 07:56:00 - [57] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: The +1 hp/s bonus doesn't really make much sense to me. I'd change it to 5% reduction to equipment CPU/PG usage any day. I'd also change the racial bonuses to better suit the role they're designed for. I also don't like the idea of giving racial bonuses for one piece of equipment. That really limits gameplay in a bad way. Only having a sidearm? Having equipment slots filled sounds good to me. Maybe not all of them though. Having to fit 4 pieces of equipment on a min logi would leave no room for anything else. I'd make it so you have to have 2 filled, except for the standard Amarr and Cal logis. They could just need to fill one as they only have 2 equipment slots. I'm not a great fan of changing who gets what WPs. Changing anything like this could leave a WP farming loophole open that CCP are bound to not notice. I'm not totally against reduced damage, but -50% would be FAR too much. I'd say 10% tops. Also exclude or reduce this for Amarr logis as they are combat logis. How does it not make sense? Who reps logi bro? When all his hives are gone an he's rep tooling you who reps him? God you guys are idiots! Rep modules? They work well enough for me... 'Insert witty signature here'
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 307	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:05:00 - [58] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: -Change the current +1 armor repair per level to the current Gallente -5% equipment CPU/PG usage per level That would not be a nerf, that would be a godsend buff to all the suits. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 307	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:07:00 - [59] - Quote lDocHollidayl wrote: No nerf, forcing suits into a role is anti MMO. One should be able to tank what they want and dps what they want and logi what they want...if though a heavy would make a bad logi let em try. Forcing suits into a role is anti mmo? Have you ever played an MMO? ANY MMO.... ? Just one.. please say you've at least played one. Heck, it doesn't matter which one you've played, they're all the same, and they all have SPECIFIC ROLES and fail at everything else. Director (Management) D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
Cosgar ParagonX 7165	Posted - 2013.11.04 08:12:00 - [60] - Quote Cenex Langly wrote: lDocHollidayl wrote: No nerf, forcing suits into a role is anti MMO. One should be able to tank what they want and dps what they want and logi what they want...if though a heavy would make a bad logi let em try. Forcing suits into a role is anti mmo? Have you ever played an MMO? ANY MMO.... ? Just one.. please say you've at least played one. Heck, it doesn't matter which one you've played, they're all the same, and they all have SPECIFIC ROLES and fail at everything else. If that's the case, Logistics = Red Mage, the most versatile class in most MMOs, and regarded as the jack of all trades, master of none. ( Just don't ask me to get on my knees and cast refresh every 20 seconds) I tried to put a level into Amarr Commando once, but got a server notification saying "Why?"



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