If you do give up I would be more than happy to adopt your abandoned ISK. I will give it a good home.

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

But I REALLY don't want to. I love this game so much. I love my heavy, I love the HMG. I love Minmatar and I love EvE.

My main issue is constantly getting killed and not wanting to invest SP in another races suit. That being Amarr.

We already know that the Minmatar Heavy suit is "Coming" but with no ETA or any information given (I understand there is no way to do a solid date and stuff but an ESTIMATED time for arrival would be nice and screw the whiners that complain about something being late.

Because of the NO FUTURE RESPECS, which I completely understand, I don't feel like investing 5million SP into the amarr heavy suit that I don't even like.

In battle, I am stuck using the militia suit due to being afraid of wasting SP. This game has been out for some time now and we still don't have our basic dropsuits for each race.

I know development takes time but it has been a long time and all the patches that have been coming out so far have been very minor changes that should have been in the game in the first place.


Okay, my rant is over.

I probably will not quit, but I had to vent my frustration somewhere since all my RL friends quit this game due to it being very incomplete.


Any suggestions on what to do would be helpful, my current plan is to just keep stacking SP so if the suits ever do get released, I can get the Minmatar heavy straight away. It is very frustrating losing to these prototypes in my militia by just a scratch and knowing that if I had equal gear, the fight would not have been close.

Haven't given up on you CCP yet! Don't give up on us.

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Like Golden Tanks?

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Platinum actually, but how did you know?

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

You helped make this game, and you don't now about shotguns? And only have one proto suit?

That's messed up

Not really. We spend all day every day making the game so when we go home we often want to play other games. While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters. As developers it is also really good that we do go play other games. On top of all that I do log CCP FoxFour. on every now and then and again the SP he gets doesn't apply to my player character.

It's all pretty normal in the games industry for players to play the game a LOT more than devs do at home.

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Platinum actually, but how did you know?

CCP FoxFour - Omg, omfg. Platinum you say? On the... Horizon you say? Don't mess with my feelings, vehicle rebalance isn't even here yet... But platinum sounds good, sounds really good.

OP - You just need... (visit skill planer) 2,760,960 SP to unlock Minmatar Basic Heavy 3 and Minmatar Sentinel 5 when it goes live. Just keep that amount reserved and go spend SP in whatever you feel like would help your heavy later and isn't better spent in a alt - Electronics, Engineering, Armor and Shield Upgrades, Biotic Upgrades, sidearms, you name it. Just not equipment since true heavies can't use them. Mess around, have some fun. Plasma Cannon is hilarious, if ineffective, and Laser Rifle with double complex damage modifiers is hysterical. Or take a break, I heard it helps too.

Hoping to still see you around later. o7

CCP FoxFour - Omg, omfg. Platinum you say? On the... Horizon you say? Don't mess with my feelings, vehicle rebalance isn't even here yet... But platinum sounds good, sounds really good.

OP - You just need... (visit skill planer) 2,760,960 SP to unlock Minmatar Basic Heavy 3 and Minmatar Sentinel 5 when it goes live. Just keep that amount reserved and go spend SP in whatever you feel like would help your heavy later and isn't better spent in a alt - Electronics, Engineering, Armor and Shield Upgrades, Biotic Upgrades, sidearms, you name it. Just not equipment since true heavies can't use them. Mess around, have some fun. Plasma Cannon is hilarious, if ineffective, and Laser Rifle with double complex damage modifiers is hysterical. Or take a break, I heard it helps too.

Hoping to still see you around later. o7

Yes, OP, Save that SP that you will use god knows when!

Meanwhile continue to play in a gimped MLT Heavy Suit that has 118 less base HP with Armor and Shield upgrades at 5, not to mention only 1 high/ 1 low slot, so you will barely be able to take advantage of those Damage Modifiers and Armor Plates and/or Reppers you spent so much SP to get to Complex.

You also wont be able to Run those boundless HMGs on your MLT heavy because the fitting cost is too high, and your Survivability in a MLT heavy suit would make this very ISK ineficient.

So yes, you should gimp yourself for an indetermined amount of time, or spec into other roles or weapons which do not really suit your general playstyle.

[/scarcasm]

EDIT: OR

Spec into the Amarr Heavy Basic Frame, and wait to set this MoFo off with the rest of us Heavies if we don't get at least a Dropsuit Deployment Respec when the other Racial Variants are released.

Hey I'm glad that he is holding out. I got so sick of running Soma's I specced Maddy. Now that I use Gallentean filth I tried to throw myself off of a bridge, but I was immortal and could not die.....

I know how you feel

*scratches forearm*

this gold plated crap is giving me a rash.

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Care to name specifics?

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

But I REALLY don't want to. I love this game so much. I love my heavy, I love the HMG. I love Minmatar and I love EvE.

My main issue is constantly getting killed and not wanting to invest SP in another races suit. That being Amarr.

Because of the NO FUTURE RESPECS, which I completely understand, I don't feel like investing 5million SP into the amarr heavy suit that I don't even like.

While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters.

Care to name specifics?

I really can't, all I can do is quote CCP Praetorian and reiterate that we are still committed to the grand vision of Dust, p2p trading, more influence on the EVE universe and meaningful endgame for mercs. Both in the short, mid and long term. We try to let those principles guide us in what we do.

http://www.psu.com/a021278/?utm_source=twitterfeed

Obviously, 1.5 and 1.6 expansions are lighter than we planned for, but much of that work has shifted into 1.7, so if all goes well, 1.7 will be beefy. The stuff that was in 1.5 and the enhancements in 1.6 are still solid and should be well received.

New content wise, the new outposts are good and we all know that not having racial suits is not optimal, I am myself waiting for Gallente heavy, saving up SP in the meantime (not going well, I keep spending it on core skills)

All that said and done, I play the game every day and we are aware of most things mentioned here on the forums, matchmaking, performance, balance and we try to prioritize as well as we can against new features.

PSU: Are the rapid-fire updates here to stay or do you intend to shift back to the 3-4 updates a year model later on?

Atli: The monthly updates will be with us for the foreseeable future, but we have already retasked a couple of teams onto the next expansion. We are hoping to be able to reveal more details on what they are working on at EVE Vegas, later in October.

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Yo, how about that tiercide eh

You should quickly update "In the press" section of DUST website and put that link to PSU interview with Atli Mar. And an Anouncement section of the forum. Such a bunch of great news and we are the last to know?

I know how you feel

*scratches forearm*

this gold plated crap is giving me a rash.

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Until somthing new is put or I can achieve somthing in this game their is no point me logging in at the moment me any most the vets feel this way. U dropped the ball by not seeing the huge demand for pve by paying attention to like 4 people on the fourm who wants this game as their own ego stroke

Until somthing new is put or I can achieve somthing in this game their is no point me logging in at the moment me any most the vets feel this way. U dropped the ball by not seeing the huge demand for pve by paying attention to like 4 people on the fourm who wants this game as their own ego stroke

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

Hmm, but the horizon is always out of reach. Nobody actually ever reaches it

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

I am myself waiting for Gallente heavy, saving up SP in the meantime (not going well, I keep spending it on core skills)

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

thats awful advice tbqh
so at this rate if someone wants to be competitive in PC or any corp battles they gotta wait like what now? 6-8 months?
already takes ppl from scratch like 4+ months to get a proper fit maxed

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

Don't forget, CCP isn't active in PC. They would never be able to keep up. It will remain as a mystery that people will want to be competitive quickly to be able to contribute.

Besides, the longer and more diverse your route through the skill tree, the more likely you are to buy boosters when it finally comes time to start really upgrading. Clever moves by the devs, encouraging people to waste their SP.

yup

thats awful advice tbqh
so at this rate if someone wants to be competitive in PC or any corp battles they gotta wait like what now? 6-8 months?
already takes ppl from scratch like 4+ months to get a proper fit maxed

I really can't, all I can do is quote CCP Praetorian and reiterate that we are still committed to the grand vision of Dust, p2p trading, more influence on the EVE universe and meaningful endgame for mercs. Both in the short, mid and long term. We try to let those principles guide us in what we do.

http://www.psu.com/a021278/?utm_source=twitterfeed

Obviously, 1.5 and 1.6 expansions are lighter than we planned for, but much of that work has shifted into 1.7, so if all goes well, 1.7 will be beefy. The stuff that was in 1.5 and the enhancements in 1.6 are still solid and should be well received.

New content wise, the new outposts are good and we all know that not having racial suits is not optimal, I am myself waiting for Gallente heavy, saving up SP in the meantime (not going well, I keep spending it on core skills)

All that said and done, I play the game every day and we are aware of most things mentioned here on the forums, matchmaking, performance, balance and we try to prioritize as well as we can against new features.

Don't forget, CCP isn't active in PC. They would never be able to keep up. It will remain as a mystery that people will want to be competitive quickly to be able to contribute.

Besides, the longer and more diverse your route through the skill tree, the more likely you are to buy boosters when it finally comes time to start really upgrading. Clever moves by the devs, encouraging people to waste their SP.

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

I'm curious if that's a realistic expectation - 1.6 is just going to be a few engine enhancements and small things, 1.7 is going to be the major content/rebalance patch. Given that we're on a monthly basis, that would mean that 1.7 is coming out in December....... So.... Uhhh.....


PvE in 2014.5? Is there a parallel dimension I'm not aware of O_o???

Please elaborate Rattati.

I really can't, all I can do is quote CCP Praetorian and reiterate that we are still committed to the grand vision of Dust, p2p trading, more influence on the EVE universe and meaningful endgame for mercs. Both in the short, mid and long term. We try to let those principles guide us in what we do.

http://www.psu.com/a021278/?utm_source=twitterfeed

Obviously, 1.5 and 1.6 expansions are lighter than we planned for, but much of that work has shifted into 1.7, so if all goes well, 1.7 will be beefy. The stuff that was in 1.5 and the enhancements in 1.6 are still solid and should be well received.

New content wise, the new outposts are good and we all know that not having racial suits is not optimal, I am myself waiting for Gallente heavy, saving up SP in the meantime (not going well, I keep spending it on core skills)

All that said and done, I play the game every day and we are aware of most things mentioned here on the forums, matchmaking, performance, balance and we try to prioritize as well as we can against new features.

Devs saving up points for core content? Not good, sounds like no respec when the racial suits arrive :(

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

I like the answer of CCP Rattati.
For beginners it would be nice to try out every weapon first.

This way new players could and should try a lot without "wasting" SP into things they don't like and becoming frustrated.

CCP Rattati what do you say to this? :)

We want to make the game more accessible at the beginning and allow people to highly specialize or diversify without frustration.

Each and every path isn't going to be optimal path, like any mmo, there will be a "best" fit, but we want to support player choice and expression.

I don't have the stamina to max out all the AR skills, like reload time etc, I much prefer redeploying tactically and based on the situation. To allow that, we can't have the initial investment be to steep. But then again, I don't expect maximum efficiency out of my badly skilled heavy, or standard sniper outfit.

Didn't they say some time ago that they were going to make some kind of "shooting range" where you could try out the weapons independently? Or is this tied into the long-awaited pve content?

We want to make the game more accessible at the beginning and allow people to highly specialize or diversify without frustration.

Each and every path isn't going to be optimal path, like any mmo, there will be a "best" fit, but we want to support player choice and expression.

I don't have the stamina to max out all the AR skills, like reload time etc, I much prefer redeploying tactically and based on the situation. To allow that, we can't have the initial investment be to steep. But then again, I don't expect maximum efficiency out of my badly skilled heavy, or standard sniper outfit.

Your not ment to max out everything you ment to have one core playstyle u max and then dable in other stuff :-)

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Don't make promises you can't keep, I've been lied to before

They just lying, like with respec for everyone, like with balancing, like with vehicle balancing, like with Massive gaming, like with stabile servers, like with no lag etc. And honestly new stuff in 2015. Boyo in that time i-¦ll be on PS4 with blacklight retribution, Planetside 2 (real massive online playing in real time), Destiny and other games. Grinding like in dust, i never saw it, ninja nerf and other B*shates from CCP. Im MAG vet and i tell you, MY DEAR CCP, something. Grinding in MAG was awesomely funny, grinding in dust is just boring like hell. Maps flat, no place for strategy, game dont push you for coop, protostomping, no diversity in gameplay. Where i can stop and honestly what fc*uking me even more, empty promises about everything. First there was that nerf, where i sent message for respec (4 times), oki nothing i start again from scratch. Guess what another nerf, i was like "again what the hell" and guess what there was second respcet "for everyone", but how i saw not for me AGAIN. Oki i was pissed off and i left game. Few week ago i connect to game again, my clanmates told me its better and for while it was, but boom vehicle buff. I was like "CCP went crazy or what", but hey there will be ne thingies (oki new maps, what honestly is another dose of flatnesess for game, what is already flat like hell). No i really thing about leave the game for ever. There is nothing new. CCP instead of implementing new B*shated should balance that stuff long time ago. I honestly never felt more like in beta for such long time. Take a look on other f2p games, Blacklight: Retribution (after beta just two big patches and game is flawlessly awesome and balanced) or Hawken (still in beta and there is just few minor problems to tink and honestly you can feel yourself like in proper AAA release right now), compare it with DUST514 (or my favorite nickname BUST514) where i basicaly still feel like in beta and that should mean something for devs. If not iam really sad for CCP like company. And now about promises, there was big promises about awesome leveling system (oki grinding like hell through uninteresting game), but oki this is just my subjection, maybe someone thinking its interesting. But DEFO not me, runing through flatland and taking point somewhere in one building in midle of map and this is EVERYWHERE?? Interesting weapons, honestly i shoot from many real one and there (do not taking up something about "its just game" here), you dont have feel of arms. Its like spiting on someone and i dont taking up balancing what is easily terible (CCP honestly do you ever shooting from something, by that - what i saw ingame - i dont think so). Racial weapons, nothing here just some cut from what you prepared before, yeah wait "be prepared for awesome patch were we just put new names on that with some tinkies with damage etc. Vehicles do something with it, vehicles basicaly dont fit roles for what theyre made, sma like weapons. When i was in army RPG was nightmare for tank its simple, proper colision damage and other thingies, like for hell on earth where you saw faster Armor faster than rocket (CCP do you have devs with some MINIMAL army training, because by what i saw ingame I DONT THINK SO!!). Medium vehicles, where is these exos, where is pilot suits, where is bolt guns and minmatar rifles. Where is that stuff, you told something about 1.5 before after it was 1.6, now i saw maybe in 1.7 and you know what after all these setbacks i dont trust you anymore. I dont trust you even with that message what you customer service sent me about respec in future. i dont trust you with new vehicles or full racial armor/weapon implementation. Hell after these empty promises i dont even trust you like company and i honestly feel it like that. Alpha Omega this game is mediocre how mediocre game can be (from 40k to 20k thats mean something), oki the game have one small thingie what i like its skilltree, but overall its just nothing in global measure where Lies and Broken promises takes all, maybe its more little under the mediocre level. The look what you have in my eyes is simple, LIARS. Im really sad, because long time ago i saw in DUST 514 MAGs successor, but not anymore and in my eyes this is ONE OF WORST SONYs BUST in Playstation history and i really believe Im not alone with this feeling about this BROKEN game. This is the end of my objective post.

P.s.:I still waiting how WoD will be, but honestly if it will be like DUST do not expect big ovations, because what i know WhiteWolf community is REAL HARDCORE!!

P.s.s.:About that Ratati horizont - Dear Ratati, its on other side of planet or its horizont on planet in another galaxy?!

The WoD lead dev actually has his head screwed on so I think WoD is going to be great. It will be a refreshing change from Eve and Dust. honestly.

I still just hope the devs here don't think they have 10 years to get Dust up to a reasonable standard. Eve is the only game like it on the market until Star Citizen comes out and has had 10 years of free reign.

Dust is a competing shooter.

You need to get new content out asap or else you'll see these numbers dwindle even more.

Not really. We spend all day every day making the game so when we go home we often want to play other games. While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters. As developers it is also really good that we do go play other games. On top of all that I do log CCP FoxFour. on every now and then and again the SP he gets doesn't apply to my player character.

It's all pretty normal in the games industry for players to play the game a LOT more than devs do at home.

...Just to make sure... you know it is 2013 currently, correct? Rattati's window gives them a little over a year to release PvE

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Not really. We spend all day every day making the game so when we go home we often want to play other games. While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters. As developers it is also really good that we do go play other games. On top of all that I do log CCP FoxFour. on every now and then and again the SP he gets doesn't apply to my player character.

It's all pretty normal in the games industry for players to play the game a LOT more than devs do at home.

when i first saw dust i thought it was like a detailed baddass rpg version of halo minus a story line purpose and shortly there after a sense of fun.

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

They just lying, like with respec for everyone, like with balancing, like with vehicle balancing, like with Massive gaming, like with stabile servers, like with no lag etc. And honestly new stuff in 2015. Boyo in that time i-¦ll be on PS4 with blacklight retribution, Planetside 2 (real massive online playing in real time), Destiny and other games. Grinding like in dust, i never saw it, ninja nerf and other B*shates from CCP. Im MAG vet and i tell you, MY DEAR CCP, something. Grinding in MAG was awesomely funny, grinding in dust is just boring like hell. Maps flat, no place for strategy, game dont push you for coop, protostomping, no diversity in gameplay. Where i can stop and honestly what fc*uking me even more, empty promises about everything. First there was that nerf, where i sent message for respec (4 times), oki nothing i start again from scratch. Guess what another nerf, i was like "again what the hell" and guess what there was second respcet "for everyone", but how i saw not for me AGAIN. Oki i was pissed off and i left game. Few week ago i connect to game again, my clanmates told me its better and for while it was, but boom vehicle buff. I was like "CCP went crazy or what", but hey there will be ne thingies (oki new maps, what honestly is another dose of flatnesess for game, what is already flat like hell). No i really thing about leave the game for ever. There is nothing new. CCP instead of implementing new B*shated should balance that stuff long time ago. I honestly never felt more like in beta for such long time. Take a look on other f2p games, Blacklight: Retribution (after beta just two big patches and game is flawlessly awesome and balanced) or Hawken (still in beta and there is just few minor problems to tink and honestly you can feel yourself like in proper AAA release right now), compare it with DUST514 (or my favorite nickname BUST514) where i basicaly still feel like in beta and that should mean something for devs. If not iam really sad for CCP like company. And now about promises, there was big promises about awesome leveling system (oki grinding like hell through uninteresting game), but oki this is just my subjection, maybe someone thinking its interesting. But DEFO not me, runing through flatland and taking point somewhere in one building in midle of map and this is EVERYWHERE?? Interesting weapons, honestly i shoot from many real one and there (do not taking up something about "its just game" here), you dont have feel of arms. Its like spiting on someone and i dont taking up balancing what is easily terible (CCP honestly do you ever shooting from something, by that - what i saw ingame - i dont think so). Racial weapons, nothing here just some cut from what you prepared before, yeah wait "be prepared for awesome patch were we just put new names on that with some tinkies with damage etc. Vehicles do something with it, vehicles basicaly dont fit roles for what theyre made, sma like weapons. When i was in army RPG was nightmare for tank its simple, proper colision damage and other thingies, like for hell on earth where you saw faster Armor faster than rocket (CCP do you have devs with some MINIMAL army training, because by what i saw ingame I DONT THINK SO!!). Medium vehicles, where is these exos, where is pilot suits, where is bolt guns and minmatar rifles. Where is that stuff, you told something about 1.5 before after it was 1.6, now i saw maybe in 1.7 and you know what after all these setbacks i dont trust you anymore. I dont trust you even with that message what you customer service sent me about respec in future. i dont trust you with new vehicles or full racial armor/weapon implementation. Hell after these empty promises i dont even trust you like company and i honestly feel it like that. Alpha Omega this game is mediocre how mediocre game can be (from 40k to 20k thats mean something), oki the game have one small thingie what i like its skilltree, but overall its just nothing in global measure where Lies and Broken promises takes all, maybe its more little under the mediocre level. The look what you have in my eyes is simple, LIARS. Im really sad, because long time ago i saw in DUST 514 MAGs successor, but not anymore and in my eyes this is ONE OF WORST SONYs BUST in Playstation history and i really believe Im not alone with this feeling about this BROKEN game. This is the end of my objective post.

P.s.:I still waiting how WoD will be, but honestly if it will be like DUST do not expect big ovations, because what i know WhiteWolf community is REAL HARDCORE!!

P.s.s.:About that Ratati horizont - Dear Ratati, its on other side of planet or its horizont on planet in another galaxy?!

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!