Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

PVE is definitely on the roadmap, not 1.7, but not as late as 2015

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

I like the answer of CCP Rattati.
For beginners it would be nice to try out every weapon first.

This way new players could and should try a lot without "wasting" SP into things they don't like and becoming frustrated.

CCP Rattati what do you say to this? :)

We want to make the game more accessible at the beginning and allow people to highly specialize or diversify without frustration.

Each and every path isn't going to be optimal path, like any mmo, there will be a "best" fit, but we want to support player choice and expression.

I don't have the stamina to max out all the AR skills, like reload time etc, I much prefer redeploying tactically and based on the situation. To allow that, we can't have the initial investment be to steep. But then again, I don't expect maximum efficiency out of my badly skilled heavy, or standard sniper outfit.

Didn't they say some time ago that they were going to make some kind of "shooting range" where you could try out the weapons independently? Or is this tied into the long-awaited pve content?

We want to make the game more accessible at the beginning and allow people to highly specialize or diversify without frustration.

Each and every path isn't going to be optimal path, like any mmo, there will be a "best" fit, but we want to support player choice and expression.

I don't have the stamina to max out all the AR skills, like reload time etc, I much prefer redeploying tactically and based on the situation. To allow that, we can't have the initial investment be to steep. But then again, I don't expect maximum efficiency out of my badly skilled heavy, or standard sniper outfit.

Your not ment to max out everything you ment to have one core playstyle u max and then dable in other stuff :-)

Don't give up, there are good things on the horizon!

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Don't make promises you can't keep, I've been lied to before

They just lying, like with respec for everyone, like with balancing, like with vehicle balancing, like with Massive gaming, like with stabile servers, like with no lag etc. And honestly new stuff in 2015. Boyo in that time i-¦ll be on PS4 with blacklight retribution, Planetside 2 (real massive online playing in real time), Destiny and other games. Grinding like in dust, i never saw it, ninja nerf and other B*shates from CCP. Im MAG vet and i tell you, MY DEAR CCP, something. Grinding in MAG was awesomely funny, grinding in dust is just boring like hell. Maps flat, no place for strategy, game dont push you for coop, protostomping, no diversity in gameplay. Where i can stop and honestly what fc*uking me even more, empty promises about everything. First there was that nerf, where i sent message for respec (4 times), oki nothing i start again from scratch. Guess what another nerf, i was like "again what the hell" and guess what there was second respcet "for everyone", but how i saw not for me AGAIN. Oki i was pissed off and i left game. Few week ago i connect to game again, my clanmates told me its better and for while it was, but boom vehicle buff. I was like "CCP went crazy or what", but hey there will be ne thingies (oki new maps, what honestly is another dose of flatnesess for game, what is already flat like hell). No i really thing about leave the game for ever. There is nothing new. CCP instead of implementing new B*shated should balance that stuff long time ago. I honestly never felt more like in beta for such long time. Take a look on other f2p games, Blacklight: Retribution (after beta just two big patches and game is flawlessly awesome and balanced) or Hawken (still in beta and there is just few minor problems to tink and honestly you can feel yourself like in proper AAA release right now), compare it with DUST514 (or my favorite nickname BUST514) where i basicaly still feel like in beta and that should mean something for devs. If not iam really sad for CCP like company. And now about promises, there was big promises about awesome leveling system (oki grinding like hell through uninteresting game), but oki this is just my subjection, maybe someone thinking its interesting. But DEFO not me, runing through flatland and taking point somewhere in one building in midle of map and this is EVERYWHERE?? Interesting weapons, honestly i shoot from many real one and there (do not taking up something about "its just game" here), you dont have feel of arms. Its like spiting on someone and i dont taking up balancing what is easily terible (CCP honestly do you ever shooting from something, by that - what i saw ingame - i dont think so). Racial weapons, nothing here just some cut from what you prepared before, yeah wait "be prepared for awesome patch were we just put new names on that with some tinkies with damage etc. Vehicles do something with it, vehicles basicaly dont fit roles for what theyre made, sma like weapons. When i was in army RPG was nightmare for tank its simple, proper colision damage and other thingies, like for hell on earth where you saw faster Armor faster than rocket (CCP do you have devs with some MINIMAL army training, because by what i saw ingame I DONT THINK SO!!). Medium vehicles, where is these exos, where is pilot suits, where is bolt guns and minmatar rifles. Where is that stuff, you told something about 1.5 before after it was 1.6, now i saw maybe in 1.7 and you know what after all these setbacks i dont trust you anymore. I dont trust you even with that message what you customer service sent me about respec in future. i dont trust you with new vehicles or full racial armor/weapon implementation. Hell after these empty promises i dont even trust you like company and i honestly feel it like that. Alpha Omega this game is mediocre how mediocre game can be (from 40k to 20k thats mean something), oki the game have one small thingie what i like its skilltree, but overall its just nothing in global measure where Lies and Broken promises takes all, maybe its more little under the mediocre level. The look what you have in my eyes is simple, LIARS. Im really sad, because long time ago i saw in DUST 514 MAGs successor, but not anymore and in my eyes this is ONE OF WORST SONYs BUST in Playstation history and i really believe Im not alone with this feeling about this BROKEN game. This is the end of my objective post.

P.s.:I still waiting how WoD will be, but honestly if it will be like DUST do not expect big ovations, because what i know WhiteWolf community is REAL HARDCORE!!

P.s.s.:About that Ratati horizont - Dear Ratati, its on other side of planet or its horizont on planet in another galaxy?!

The WoD lead dev actually has his head screwed on so I think WoD is going to be great. It will be a refreshing change from Eve and Dust. honestly.

I still just hope the devs here don't think they have 10 years to get Dust up to a reasonable standard. Eve is the only game like it on the market until Star Citizen comes out and has had 10 years of free reign.

Dust is a competing shooter.

You need to get new content out asap or else you'll see these numbers dwindle even more.

Not really. We spend all day every day making the game so when we go home we often want to play other games. While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters. As developers it is also really good that we do go play other games. On top of all that I do log CCP FoxFour. on every now and then and again the SP he gets doesn't apply to my player character.

It's all pretty normal in the games industry for players to play the game a LOT more than devs do at home.

...Just to make sure... you know it is 2013 currently, correct? Rattati's window gives them a little over a year to release PvE

So I guess I maybe play with a bit of a different mind set.

Basically I took Gallente Logistics suits up to proto level and that is the ONLY thing I have at proto level. I then got all the light weapons to at least standard level, that took like all of a couple matches or a days passive SP. Then after playing with all the light weapons a bit I started picking out the ones I liked most and got those to advanced level.

I am currently working my way through getting all the light weapons to advanced, upgrading some core skills (hacking, armor, shield, and CPU/PG skills). Basically since I am terrible at the game and wont use Proto stuff outside of PC matches I just get as much stuff to advanced so I can play around with ALL of it and have fun with all of it.

I will say though I have Gallente Logistics maxed and the only other suit I have is Caldari medium suits to advanced. No other racial suits. But I am having a blast just flipping between weapons and fits as my mood suits me.

Just realized the other day exactly how much I love shotguns. Think I will get myself a decent scout suit and shotgun next.

Anyways, TLDR is dont try and go max on stuff. Go basic on everything, then go slightly better on the things you kind of enjoy, and only max out the things you really love. Other then that just get as much stuff to advanced to add variety. It also means being able to test all the things whenever they are balanced or tweaked.

Hometime for me now though as it's almost 1AM. :(

Not really. We spend all day every day making the game so when we go home we often want to play other games. While at work we are playing on internal test servers, so none of that gives us SP or ISK on our player characters. As developers it is also really good that we do go play other games. On top of all that I do log CCP FoxFour. on every now and then and again the SP he gets doesn't apply to my player character.

It's all pretty normal in the games industry for players to play the game a LOT more than devs do at home.

when i first saw dust i thought it was like a detailed baddass rpg version of halo minus a story line purpose and shortly there after a sense of fun.