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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2706	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:33:00 - [91] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: 3 tanks in ambush just kills it. I.ve been saying this all my life. Ambush needs no Tanks, its a game mode for tankers to pad stat. ANY pub match or Faction war needs to fix The limit on TANKS deployed; Getting in a match vs 6+ organized corp members while you team are all randoms is already hard,but for them to start spider-tanking with 2+ tanks is just ret@rded. Not only bad matchmaking but also bad vehicle limits? LOL good one, Want to spider tank? do it in Planetary conquest, where there WILL be a counter. Remember that tanks are useless if they cant get to the points. I have seen matches we won with 6 tanks on the map because they did not have infantry to control the points for long. Dropship deployments allowed us to hard counter them without firing a single shot. But why should infantry be allowed to spider rep when vehicles aren't? That makes no sense.
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 276	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:40:00 - [92] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Who's stupid enough to use vehicles in ambush? Are they trying to go bankrupt? 27-0 24-0 11-0 says otherwise.
Void Echo Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 1663	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:43:00 - [93] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Who's stupid enough to use vehicles in ambush? Are they trying to go bankrupt? 27-0 24-0 11-0 says otherwise. unless they kill other tankers and vehicle pilots, that only brings in 250k
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 611	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:45:00 - [94] - Quote Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Throw in a few V E R T I C A L maps too. Problem solved. Sure, you can call a tank, but it'll probably get wrek'd.
Rowdy Railgunner TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 58	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:46:00 - [95] - Quote Void Echo wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Who's stupid enough to use vehicles in ambush? Are they trying to go bankrupt? 27-0 24-0 11-0 says otherwise. unless they kill other tankers and vehicle pilots, that only brings in 250k But it doesn't lose any ISK either. . .
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 29	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:54:00 - [96] - Quote No, because that would force vehicles into different gamenodes and proto av squads would flock to those. then vehicles die instantly and vehicles become useless .
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:57:00 - [97] - Quote Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the blues freely took everything. Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 29	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:01:00 - [98] - Quote But yeah sure take out tanks but make all swarms forge av nades and plasma cannon cost 50,000 isk each and make them absolutely suck unless you've spent several million sp on them
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:04:00 - [99] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: But yeah sure take out tanks but make all swarms forge av nades and plasma cannon cost 50,000 isk each and make them absolutely suck unless you've spent several million sp on them I have spent several million SP on them. -The weapons , to prof 4 with several other upgrades. -The SUIT to put the swarms on -The Side arm i so rely on to defend myself from enemy infatry -The nanos i use to ressuply my swarm -All the passive skills i've had to improve in order to move faster and be more resistant. -The Complex Damage mods -Complex Shield Ext -Complex Armor and rep -Complex cardiac Reg Id say i spent around 14-15 million SP in being an AVer. Happy now? ANTTI-Like for you -1
Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 76	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:06:00 - [100] - Quote Tebu Gan wrote: Void Echo wrote: then make skirmish AV free. sorry void, tanks have no place in ambush. That is called an I win button. You've heard of that thing... I think its called AV right?

Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 130	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:11:00 - [101] - Quote Why is it that every time I run on the ground instead of in my tank (which happens quite often since tanks are meh right now) I can stay clear of enemy tanks? Seriously, its not hard people, just hide from them.
Benjamin Ciscko S.e.V.e.N. 76	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:12:00 - [102] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: But yeah sure take out tanks but make all swarms forge av nades and plasma cannon cost 50,000 isk each and make them absolutely suck unless you've spent several million sp on them I have spent several million SP on them. -The weapons , to prof 4 with several other upgrades. -The SUIT to put the swarms on -The Side arm i so rely on to defend myself from enemy infatry -The nanos i use to ressuply my swarm -All the passive skills i've had to improve in order to move faster and be more resistant. -The Complex Damage mods -Complex Shield Ext -Complex Armor and rep -Complex cardiac Reg Id say i spent around 14-15 million SP in being an AVer. Happy now? ANTTI-Like for you -1 Yes but your skills carry over if you wanted to be an infantry guy who just avoids tanks and plays the game AV free you would have gotten -All the passive skills i've had to improve in order to move faster and be more resistant. -The Complex Damage mods -Complex Shield Ext -Complex Armor and rep -Complex cardiac Reg -The SUIT to put the swarms on -The Side arm i so rely on to defend myself from enemy infatry anyway most of these skills do not inhibit your infantry gameplay, I don't see how armor adaptation level 5 or vehicle core upgrades level 5 will help me in anything but tanking.
J0hlss0n Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 31	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:14:00 - [103] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: Where will the AVers go??? "Community" is full of Sheep & Lemmings......... Hope for Humanity is lost...... Well, if you just take a deep breath and calm down, the game modes we got today, Domination, Skirmish and Ambush OMS would still be exactly the same, meaning tankers can call in their tanks and other veichles and AV'ers can go hunting veichles all day every day, as always... but the tankers that wish for more tank battles would also have a spot to go to, and the regular soldiers would have a Ambush game mode which would fit the ones not wanting to encounter veichles (tanks).... and to be clear, Im not a tanker (only have had very basic veichles before), Im a dedicated Forge user since several builds, but I can still understand both sides whishes...
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:16:00 - [104] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: deepfried salad gilliam wrote: But yeah sure take out tanks but make all swarms forge av nades and plasma cannon cost 50,000 isk each and make them absolutely suck unless you've spent several million sp on them I have spent several million SP on them. -The weapons , to prof 4 with several other upgrades. -The SUIT to put the swarms on -The Side arm i so rely on to defend myself from enemy infatry -The nanos i use to ressuply my swarm -All the passive skills i've had to improve in order to move faster and be more resistant. -The Complex Damage mods -Complex Shield Ext -Complex Armor and rep -Complex cardiac Reg Id say i spent around 14-15 million SP in being an AVer. Happy now? ANTTI-Like for you -1 Yes but your skills carry over if you wanted to be an infantry guy who just avoids tanks and plays the game AV free you would have gotten -All the passive skills i've had to improve in order to move faster and be more resistant. -The Complex Damage mods -Complex Shield Ext -Complex Armor and rep -Complex cardiac Reg -The SUIT to put the swarms on -The Side arm i so rely on to defend myself from enemy infatry anyway most of these skills do not inhibit your infantry gameplay, I don't see how armor adaptation level 5 or vehicle core upgrades level 5 will help me in anything but tanking. They help your K-D a lot....
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 29	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:18:00 - [105] - Quote So checkmate,basicaly nerf tanks because blueberries wont help you.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:20:00 - [106] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: So checkmate,basicaly nerf tanks because blueberries wont help you. WHO SAID NERF TANKS?! GOD all tankers are the same? i say : Ambush is not a game for Tanks, put an example how tanks can be powerful with teamwork and now im asking for a NERF? I dont care anymore, you people are just stubborn....... Where did i say tanks need a nerf !? The only thing i sair related to that matter is that SHield tanks are not as powerful as armor tanks. EDIT: ok im calmed down: ''So checkmate,basicaly nerf tanks because blueberries wont help you''. 1st- im not asking for nerfs 2nd- Tankers want Buffs because blues dont help them and they get destroyed, and you are calling ME out for this? LOL
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 29	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:23:00 - [107] - Quote And here's how it would go, I haven't skilled av, ill play av free I have proto av ill go kill all the tanks
Ninjanomyx TeamPlayers EoN. 333	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:23:00 - [108] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the reds freely took everything.(You know, teamwork?) Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....And then ,being a tanker will be nothing special. So if I read this correctly........: "Nerf Tanks b/c my Blues are bad & Teamwork is OP. They has bettar Snaipurs!!!" Listen to this guy CCP.....he has the solution to all of you problems
Flux Raeder WarRavens League of Infamy 297	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:24:00 - [109] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I'm not a tank pilot but at the same time I don't think Ambush should have stipulations for the corporations who hand out these contracts wouldn't have stipulations. They just want the job done. As much as I hate to see three tanks roaming the field, I suck it up because this is war. I don't have time to cry foul. We just have to get the swarm guys out there and we gotta protect them from infantry trying to silence them. A man once said, "War is hell" A good point here: cover your ******* av mates!!!!!!!!!!! I have lost count if the times that I am the only person on the field with av while there are 3+ tanks roaming around, trying to get a shot on them only to be taken down from any given direction because my dumbass teammates keep charging in without any tactics and not even bothering to protect the one person who can rebalance the match
Prince Mahav's Heavy Attack Vehicles Elite 9	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:25:00 - [110] - Quote Void Echo wrote: then make skirmish AV free. Yes, because a tank can't even last 10 minutes in skirmish.

KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:25:00 - [111] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the reds freely took everything.(You know, teamwork?) Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....And then ,being a tanker will be nothing special. So if I read this correctly........: "Nerf Tanks b/c my Blues are bad & Teamwork is OP. They has bettar Snaipurs!!!" Listen to this guy CCP.....he has the solution to all of you problems Another ret@rd. I did not say nerf tanks , i said 1-Tanks are not UP 2-Tanks have no place in Ambush and as it is, they need a limitation in PUB matches. We have 12 v 12 battles.Its way too little people for one team to have 4 tanks deployed. Its just, LOGIC. How does no one else see this?
Ninjanomyx TeamPlayers EoN. 333	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:35:00 - [112] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the reds freely took everything.(You know, teamwork?) Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....And then ,being a tanker will be nothing special. So if I read this correctly........: "Nerf Tanks b/c my Blues are bad & Teamwork is OP. They has bettar Snaipurs!!!" Listen to this guy CCP.....he has the solution to all of you problems Another ret@rd. I did not say nerf tanks , i said 1-Tanks are not UP 2-Tanks have no place in Ambush and as it is, they need a limitation in PUB matches. We have 12 v 12 battles.Its way too little people for one team to have 4 tanks deployed. Its just, LOGIC. How does no one else see this? So no , you didnt read it correctly So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:44:00 - [113] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Throw in a few V E R T I C A L maps too. Problem solved. Sure, you can call a tank, but it'll probably get wrek'd. The consequently we would need some open world maps to encourage vehicle play as well, and woe unto you if you get randomly put into it, as woe unto us if we get put on the indoors maps before MTACs come out.
Prince Mahav's Heavy Attack Vehicles Elite 9	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:44:00 - [114] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: Void Echo wrote: then make skirmish AV free. sorry void, tanks have no place in ambush. That is called an I win button. sorry tebu, AV has no place in skirmish, that's called an instant kill button. Like HAVs firing on infantry that doesn't have any AV to protect themselves with? I look forward to you rage quitting this game once you realize that CCP will never give you invincible HAVs. Ever. HAV pilots are 5% of this game's population. When it comes to game balance, CCP will always err on the side of infantry. I know we aren't getting that nearly perfect balance anymore, I know we are a minority and you retards are the majority, look at what the state of the game is because of you guys whining about everything you cant shot like you do in cod. this game would be in a better state if people like you never heard of it. AMEN!!! Whining infantry just keeps complaining about tanks. Truth is: if you're still whining about "OP Tanks" then you must not have Advanced AV weapons. That is your fault. They already nerfed tanks several times to the point where one person can take down 2 or more tanks if he's up for it. Think about it... 1 person with AV weapons can take down a tank which usually cost in the millions. There suit's only cost like under 200k. So if we want balance, how about we make those AV suits the same price of a tank. BOOM, there goes your balance.
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 350	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:47:00 - [115] - Quote well that escalated quickly. entertaining too. seriously checkmate you're still on about tanks not being UP? I'd debate the point but it goes nowhere and I'm worried you'd pull a STD swarm on me. ninjanomyx good to see you. I believe the topic at hand was removing tanks from ambush. as tanks are undeniably underpowered, that is unless you are playing with checkmate then they go inexplicably god mode. it is my belief that removing tanks from ambush would only further weaken the tank as a class especially considering that we only have three game modes to work with. to any butt hurt infantry men i would recommend getting yourself a STD swarm it's cheap and requires almost no sp but still effective. if you should find yourself tank spammed simply utilize the fact that they have basically no infantry to you advantage and fire swarms from cover.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:49:00 - [116] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the reds freely took everything.(You know, teamwork?) Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....And then ,being a tanker will be nothing special. They aren't weak, just flimsy and lacking in one of the core features of Real World tanking which is Manouverability, If they were able to do better turns then I would have no problem with the state of tanks, currently our real world versions are better because they could run circles around the Dust ones. I just wish AV took a little bit more time to set up. E.G- Swarm lock that target and take X seconds to lock (6-8 tops) but fire fast, keeping their high DPS. Pilots get a notice when they are being locked, either they move, or they retreat, or balls to the wall fight in CQC. Now the game is more tactical as we can start to implement counter measures, and you can keep you powerful AV, but you also get the added bonus of simply knowing that by locking the tank you could be forcing him to hesitate or even pull back/ deny him the fight.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:13:00 - [117] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant Its situational. Tankers forget that for INFANTRY there are more stuff to take into consideration. For tankers , is tank vs AV. For Avers, is AV vs Tank,Enemy infantry,enemy Turrets, enviroment , red line,etc... again,situational: 1 v 1 , of course i take out a tank. Me, with snipers, enemy infantry shooting at me all the time, not letting me get into position, Plus tanks going with OTHER tanks behind them,or LLAVs repping them,a map that benefis them... so many variables... Im surpised they let someone so narrow minded into Teamplayers...
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:26:00 - [118] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant Its situational. Tankers forget that for INFANTRY there are more stuff to take into consideration. For tankers , is tank vs AV. For Avers, is AV vs Tank,Enemy infantry,enemy Turrets, enviroment , red line,etc... again,situational: 1 v 1 , of course i take out a tank. Me, with snipers, enemy infantry shooting at me all the time, not letting me get into position, Plus tanks going with OTHER tanks behind them,or LLAVs repping them,a map that benefis them... so many variables... Im surpised they let someone so narrow minded into Teamplayers... Irrelevant is hardly a stinging or meaningful comment, you too are irrelevant Ninja, where is my proof, facts, what does that even mean? Nothing really. If you are going to insult a man put some effort into it. Void is one of the best tankers in this game, if he cannot be pulling off consistent no loss matches then few other people would be able to match a similar standard, and what you just did there in your post is high light how incredibly powerful Swarm Launchers are, adding fodder to the old Tankers argument that there should not be such potent auto locking (now 2x DPS) damaging, and long range AV options. As for you Checkmate An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover, and preparation, 2v1 doable, 3v1 easy. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked. Don't even forget prior to becoming a tanker I was a damn good AVer
Justin Tymes Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder. 431	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:32:00 - [119] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: well that escalated quickly. entertaining too. seriously checkmate you're still on about tanks not being UP? I'd debate the point but it goes nowhere and I'm worried you'd pull a STD swarm on me. ninjanomyx good to see you. I believe the topic at hand was removing tanks from ambush. as tanks are undeniably underpowered, that is unless you are playing with checkmate then they go inexplicably god mode. it is my belief that removing tanks from ambush would only further weaken the tank as a class especially considering that we only have three game modes to work with. to any butt hurt infantry men i would recommend getting yourself a STD swarm it's cheap and requires almost no sp but still effective. if you should find yourself tank spammed simply utilize the fact that they have basically no infantry to you advantage and fire swarms from cover. What cover, it's Ambush, anywhere you go Infantry will be there within 1 minute of your location. The only cover is on the pillers, and you need dropships for that, and they get shot down by any squad with brains. Your argument is that because tanks are supposedly UP, that gives them the right to abuse a game mode not designed for them? That makes no sense at all.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1637	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:33:00 - [120] - Quote True Adamance wrote: As for you Checkmate An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover, and preparation, 2v1 doable, 3v1 easy. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked. Don't even forget prior to becoming a tanker I was a damn good AVer ''An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover'' True, but : 1-sometimes i dont have another chance than taking tanks solo 1 v1 , I play pub matches NOT Pc,where teamwork is common,in FW running alone with randoms taht suck its everyday life. 2-Depends on he nemy team also. A tank,even a bad anker like myself can go 25+ kills nad ZERo deaths in a game if your infantry is taking care of the AV infantry. COVER and PREPARATION is something that sometimes you CANT afford. SITUATIONAL ''. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. '' Agreed, a tanker should kill that AVer instanly, i dont know why they dont. '' Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked.'' Agreed, i miss the Javelin from BF3.... : /



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