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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2698	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:08:00 - [1] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: 3 tanks in ambush just kills it. 32 infantry in Ambush just kills it
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2701	Posted - 2013.10.08 18:54:00 - [2] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: Say what you mean. You don't enjoy tanks, you enjoy the feeling of omnipotence and invincibility that tanking gets you. You want more of it. I don't want tanks to be gone. I just want them to not be invincible, because that hurts the game. And it looks like CCP wants the same thing. well they aren't invincible, you've gotten your wish. with every build they get worse. why remove them from ambush? Tanks are the furthest things from invincible. One man can run one off with a swarm launcher, all he has to do is strafe through my massive anti infantry shells and hit me twice, then Im buggered if he reloads and Im in his sights.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2701	Posted - 2013.10.08 19:06:00 - [3] - Quote Void Echo wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: knight of 6 wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: Say what you mean. You don't enjoy tanks, you enjoy the feeling of omnipotence and invincibility that tanking gets you. You want more of it. I don't want tanks to be gone. I just want them to not be invincible, because that hurts the game. And it looks like CCP wants the same thing. well they aren't invincible, you've gotten your wish. with every build they get worse. why remove them from ambush? I never said I want infantry only ambush. Only reason I posted was because someone somehow got to the conclusion that AV free skirmish was a good idea as well. well....I said that because he wants a vehicle free ambush, fair is fair. want a vehicle free game mode? we want an AV free game mode, you cannot do one thing for one side without doing anything for the other side, tank drivers have been screwed over since the beginning of the game. Nah this is a ***** sand box mates. You will see tanks dropped in to ambush, HTFU, just like you see BC's, Battleships, etc dropped on frigates and cruisers in EVE, we will face AV, just like we face enemy Neuts and drone ships, we have to HTFU (its tough I know since I *** about AV all the time).... Come on A single good tanker will aid in commanding the flow of a match, a crappier one (like me) will either swim or drown either doing well or dying horribly.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2702	Posted - 2013.10.08 19:14:00 - [4] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: Wow, seriously? This isn't some kind of joke or troll? Letting people play without being stomped by vehicles is valid, because they are still being challenged by the other team. Introducing a game mode where HAVs stomp infantry without any kind of recourse short of calling in their own tank is just dumb. It's dumb because no infantry would ever join it. Only tankers will. So why not just skip the middle part and make a vehicle only mode? I think the only reason why you didn't suggest a vehicle only mode is because you don't want to have shoot-outs with other HAVs. You want to stomp infantry. That's why you got into tanking. Admit it. Really because if I could get rid of you idiots I would instantly and have tank battles all day long! But this isn't CoD, and its not world of Tanks.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2702	Posted - 2013.10.08 19:31:00 - [5] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: True Adamance wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: Wow, seriously? This isn't some kind of joke or troll? Letting people play without being stomped by vehicles is valid, because they are still being challenged by the other team. Introducing a game mode where HAVs stomp infantry without any kind of recourse short of calling in their own tank is just dumb. It's dumb because no infantry would ever join it. Only tankers will. So why not just skip the middle part and make a vehicle only mode? I think the only reason why you didn't suggest a vehicle only mode is because you don't want to have shoot-outs with other HAVs. You want to stomp infantry. That's why you got into tanking. Admit it. Really because if I could get rid of you idiots I would instantly and have tank battles all day long! But this isn't CoD, and its not world of Tanks. I'd be totally fine with a vehicle only mode. I wouldn't play it, but its not like I would have less Dust for me if it existed. And good job on insulting 90% of this game's population! Haha I have been an Infantryman for well over 7 months, I think I'm entitled to tell our guys how we are...Hell I still do Infantry, AV is too easy to use, blues never hack the points, and we lose by clone count with two tickers off the MCC because our infantry charges out on the enemies guns when if we held back we would win.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2704	Posted - 2013.10.08 20:55:00 - [6] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: Void Echo wrote: Tebu Gan wrote: Void Echo wrote: then make skirmish AV free. sorry void, tanks have no place in ambush. That is called an I win button. sorry tebu, AV has no place in skirmish, that's called an instant kill button. Like HAVs firing on infantry that doesn't have any AV to protect themselves with? I look forward to you rage quitting this game once you realize that CCP will never give you invincible HAVs. Ever. HAV pilots are 5% of this game's population. When it comes to game balance, CCP will always err on the side of infantry. Do you know why this is??? B/C only .03% of the Playerbase can go ISK Positive in a Tank. The 4.97% are simply Masochists who refuse to play a Game on EZ-Mode. I look forward to you Rage Quitting the "Game" once you realize that CCP has tried to make DUST 514 into CoD, only to realize there's Titanfall......... EZ mode is for scrubs.... Why ever play a game on Easy? Why ever make a game too easy for yourself, how will you enjoy it?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2706	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:31:00 - [7] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: My "Head" is a Turret & my "Feet" are Treads.... That's almost poetic and how sort of indicative of how vehicle users are. Maybe I misjudged you powers of cognition.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2706	Posted - 2013.10.08 21:33:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: 3 tanks in ambush just kills it. I.ve been saying this all my life. Ambush needs no Tanks, its a game mode for tankers to pad stat. ANY pub match or Faction war needs to fix The limit on TANKS deployed; Getting in a match vs 6+ organized corp members while you team are all randoms is already hard,but for them to start spider-tanking with 2+ tanks is just ret@rded. Not only bad matchmaking but also bad vehicle limits? LOL good one, Want to spider tank? do it in Planetary conquest, where there WILL be a counter. Remember that tanks are useless if they cant get to the points. I have seen matches we won with 6 tanks on the map because they did not have infantry to control the points for long. Dropship deployments allowed us to hard counter them without firing a single shot. But why should infantry be allowed to spider rep when vehicles aren't? That makes no sense.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:44:00 - [9] - Quote Abron Garr wrote: Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Indoor Maps Throw in a few V E R T I C A L maps too. Problem solved. Sure, you can call a tank, but it'll probably get wrek'd. The consequently we would need some open world maps to encourage vehicle play as well, and woe unto you if you get randomly put into it, as woe unto us if we get put on the indoors maps before MTACs come out.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 22:49:00 - [10] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Well adamance. The point is , TANKS ARE NOT WEAK. Shield tanks are UP compared with Armor tanks, but anyone saying armor tanks are weak is demented. That they re NOT 100% effective on their own, yeah well,nothing is supposed to. Yesterday i was playing again vs 6+ corp members. They brought in 2 tanks, and had about 3 snipers taking out all AV infantry, while the rest of the reds freely took everything.(You know, teamwork?) Me and 3 randoms squaded up and try to take down 1 tank, but when you are getting hit by snipers , rushed by enemy infantry becasue all of your blues are 3-15 K-D snipers, and need to actually RELOAD 2+ times because the armor tank took 6 of your Wyrikomis swarms to the face and still lives with 1/3 of their HP, it becomes not difficult , but impossible. we are also talking about LINE HARVEST,probably one of he WORST maps to fight vs Tanks since they have so much cover. 6 Proto swarms, the other AV throwing grenades, hes already ON FIRE, but he speeds up, gets lost under the roofs and hides behind the redline to repair/call it back.MEanwhile we are getting ravaged by enemy infantry because our Blues are n00bs and we are carruing AV instead of AI weaponry. They are NOT useless. Tankers want overall to be undestructible,as it is even with proto AV , rep mods are so broken is impossible to take them down; but let me tell you this. the day you all run indestructible tanks, the FPS aspect dies,because we will ALL be running tanks....And then ,being a tanker will be nothing special. They aren't weak, just flimsy and lacking in one of the core features of Real World tanking which is Manouverability, If they were able to do better turns then I would have no problem with the state of tanks, currently our real world versions are better because they could run circles around the Dust ones. I just wish AV took a little bit more time to set up. E.G- Swarm lock that target and take X seconds to lock (6-8 tops) but fire fast, keeping their high DPS. Pilots get a notice when they are being locked, either they move, or they retreat, or balls to the wall fight in CQC. Now the game is more tactical as we can start to implement counter measures, and you can keep you powerful AV, but you also get the added bonus of simply knowing that by locking the tank you could be forcing him to hesitate or even pull back/ deny him the fight.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2707	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:26:00 - [11] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant Its situational. Tankers forget that for INFANTRY there are more stuff to take into consideration. For tankers , is tank vs AV. For Avers, is AV vs Tank,Enemy infantry,enemy Turrets, enviroment , red line,etc... again,situational: 1 v 1 , of course i take out a tank. Me, with snipers, enemy infantry shooting at me all the time, not letting me get into position, Plus tanks going with OTHER tanks behind them,or LLAVs repping them,a map that benefis them... so many variables... Im surpised they let someone so narrow minded into Teamplayers... Irrelevant is hardly a stinging or meaningful comment, you too are irrelevant Ninja, where is my proof, facts, what does that even mean? Nothing really. If you are going to insult a man put some effort into it. Void is one of the best tankers in this game, if he cannot be pulling off consistent no loss matches then few other people would be able to match a similar standard, and what you just did there in your post is high light how incredibly powerful Swarm Launchers are, adding fodder to the old Tankers argument that there should not be such potent auto locking (now 2x DPS) damaging, and long range AV options. As for you Checkmate An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover, and preparation, 2v1 doable, 3v1 easy. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked. Don't even forget prior to becoming a tanker I was a damn good AVer
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2713	Posted - 2013.10.08 23:45:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: True Adamance wrote: As for you Checkmate An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover, and preparation, 2v1 doable, 3v1 easy. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked. Don't even forget prior to becoming a tanker I was a damn good AVer ''An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover'' True, but : 1-sometimes i dont have another chance than taking tanks solo 1 v1 , I play pub matches NOT Pc,where teamwork is common,in FW running alone with randoms taht suck its everyday life. 2-Depends on the enemy team also. A tank,even a badt anker like myself can go 25+ kills and ZERo deaths in a game if your infantry is taking care of the AV infantry. COVER and PREPARATION is something that sometimes you CANT afford.SPECIALLY in AMBUSH SITUATIONAL ''. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. '' Agreed, a tanker should kill that AVer instanly, i dont know why they dont. '' Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked.'' Agreed, i miss the Javelin from BF3.... : / Point A1- It doesn't matter, I don't care if you are solo, or a player who I don't know too lazy to squad, it makes no damn difference you do not/ should not have the capacity, like you do now, to easily solo a tank. Point A2- Yes you can, AV can sit around other groups of players and use them as cover, a wall between the enemy teams and such, In ambush you cannot forget there are dozens of squads rolling around, saying because you do not have one you are not covered is a weak argument considering we now have a squad finder. Point B1- Yeah or I just suck at tracking, which I know I don't for the number of Head Shots on the run I get. Point B2- That would suit AVers I reckon, and tanks because them then get the chance to break lock, Avers cannot insta lock and spam, plus counter measure modules could be implemented for the time between lock, like AMS, Flares, EM disruption Script, Kinetic Dampeners. But AV retains its killing power and DPS when locked.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2714	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:08:00 - [13] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Void Echo wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Shoot them with a swarm once and watch as they haul ass away to recall their tank and then hide the rest of the match Most tankers are cowards when they know AV is about so they arent that hard to deal with Inb4 tankers cry about OP AV, ***** you have 3 weapons in the game that an infantry player is able to kill you with while we are vulnerable to almost every thing, suck it up and deal with dying or turn off your PS3 Infantry want a game mode without tanks but its the tankers who are the cowards amused Want me to go find links to threads with vehicle players asking for a vehicle only mode so they can play world of tanks? I can go find the countless threads where you describe your ideal dust version as another call of duty. Do it, go find posts where I say this should be more like call of duty and I mean where I say exactly that, none of your butt hurt whining claiming that I want a cod clone because I say tanks should get blown up by one man and not safe cozy spot to keep your ass safe because you are scared to put boots to the ground You want to find threads where we say specifically we wish to play and exact replica of world of tanks? You wont find it, you would have to establish by the very definition of our word what we infer by our post.... hell plenty of infantry infer they want CoD style run and gun modes, they infer they then want dynamic battlefields like in battlefield.... Infantry need to harden the **** up and realise in war....there are plenty of tanks, some types of tanks have been deployed recently with cutting edge tech that have yet to be destroyed....
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2723	Posted - 2013.10.09 02:50:00 - [14] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Not from you Adamance, Ive seen a lot of your posts and you are a fairly reasonable guy On the other hand Ive also seen a lot of Voids posts and hes gone after me before spouting a bunch of BS and trying to put words in my mouth and here he is throwing out a challenge claiming Ive said something I havent so Im calling him on it If he can actually back up what hes saying I say let him do it other wise this is another case of him riding my nuts since I dont think tanks should take a huge amount of concentrated fire with just one massively altering that playing field, something like that is atrocious for game balance and catering to a niche in a bad way Now if they actually do decide to chop everything up so people can pick and choose game modes its still detrimental but slightly less so, personally though I prefer the mix of things but I think our team sizes and map layouts hinder the true potential of this set up I vary between "whiny *****" and "reasonable poster", my corp mates tell me I'm, and I quote, "wishy washy"
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2723	Posted - 2013.10.09 03:01:00 - [15] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: 3 tanks in ambush just kills it. I agree with you entirely but in reality you die once, come back with swarm luancher and av grenades and problem solved. Except the real problem is not wanting to use those weapons at all. Yup I don't want you to use those weapons either. I wont shoot you if you don't shoot me. I keep my promises even if it kills me (in game).
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2724	Posted - 2013.10.09 03:14:00 - [16] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant Its situational. Tankers forget that for INFANTRY there are more stuff to take into consideration. For tankers , is tank vs AV. For Avers, is AV vs Tank,Enemy infantry,enemy Turrets, enviroment , red line,etc... again,situational: 1 v 1 , of course i take out a tank. Me, with snipers, enemy infantry shooting at me all the time, not letting me get into position, Plus tanks going with OTHER tanks behind them,or LLAVs repping them,a map that benefis them... so many variables... Im surpised they let someone so narrow minded into Teamplayers... I'm surprised they let someone so Mindless past Pre-Kindergarden......... The only thing we don't worry about are Handheld Ballistics (IE: AR, Sniper, Shotty). Even Flaylocks, Scrambler Rifles, Lazers & Mass Drivers contribute.....albeit small. Hitbox is huge, Acceleration is slow, Counter is Insta-Fire & Homing (FG, Swarm, AV Nade), Maps cater to AV & Infantry in general.....especially the new Sockets (Sky Scrapers, Platforms, Cubby Holes, Ridges, etc.). Our Turrets neither look Up nor Down past 35 & 10 Degrees respectively, we have no access to anything past STD except Turrets (FG Hurt Box is 1.5x Heavy Frame while Rail is 1/2 the Scout Frame btw....& AFG > ALL), a pebble in the road strips EHP, Terrain deviates Shots wildly, MAX of 20 Seconds in Combat (If minimal AV present) with a 45 Seconds to 1 Minute Downtime (If not Aggressively Suicidal...), NO "Aim-Assist" whatsoever, our Price Tag is EXCESSIVE (STD FFS....), Rendering is pathetic (LOL Ghost Installations) and 1.5 made it worse (LOL Phase-Dodging Infantry), and come 1.7 (2.5....) we shall have even less to work with (Thank IWS & Wolfman.....) It takes a God-Tier Tanker to even manage any Gains, where a God-Tier Infantryman will indefinitely outshine regardless of situation, & even a Semi-Decent one @ that.....& with a whole lot more Flexibility I might add. You will NOT see even an Adept Tanker go ISK Positive....I assure you of this. Tankers are simply there to draw AGGRO so the CoDbois are forced out of their Element, & if even 1 of them is comfortable with dropping that AR for a sec then we lose ground fast. If I get an entire Squad to hunt me in the Redline & my Team of Blues make a Comeback.....I did my job. If I die ONCE.....back to the drawing board for 5-15 Games. I have dabbled in damn near every Class & Build there is, & I assure you that the "Closed-Minded" one is not this guy Points thumbs @ Self PS: I Hilighted a KEY POINT for LULZ Go back to School kid.....you badly need it I don't like to directly insult people but you are a self righteous ass.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2726	Posted - 2013.10.09 04:06:00 - [17] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: True Adamance wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Ninjanomyx wrote: So.....if you want to Tank you must be GOD b/c you must survive 5-15 Matches to recoup on a single Loss. 1 SKILLED AVer can SOLO you. You are obviously not a SKILLED AVer..... 2x Skilled AVers w/ Damage Mods + Focus Fire = 6x Tanks Dead &/or Redlined. Make those 2 AFGers & Infantry = LOL, & the Derpship "Counter" is Null & Void........ I read & comprehend just fine.....you are simply Irrelevant Its situational. Tankers forget that for INFANTRY there are more stuff to take into consideration. For tankers , is tank vs AV. For Avers, is AV vs Tank,Enemy infantry,enemy Turrets, enviroment , red line,etc... again,situational: 1 v 1 , of course i take out a tank. Me, with snipers, enemy infantry shooting at me all the time, not letting me get into position, Plus tanks going with OTHER tanks behind them,or LLAVs repping them,a map that benefis them... so many variables... Im surpised they let someone so narrow minded into Teamplayers... I'm surprised they let someone so Mindless past Pre-Kindergarden......... The only thing we don't worry about are Handheld Ballistics (IE: AR, Sniper, Shotty). Even Flaylocks, Scrambler Rifles, Lazers & Mass Drivers contribute.....albeit small. Hitbox is huge, Acceleration is slow, Counter is Insta-Fire & Homing (FG, Swarm, AV Nade), Maps cater to AV & Infantry in general.....especially the new Sockets (Sky Scrapers, Platforms, Cubby Holes, Ridges, etc.). Our Turrets neither look Up nor Down past 35 & 10 Degrees respectively, we have no access to anything past STD except Turrets (FG Hurt Box is 1.5x Heavy Frame while Rail is 1/2 the Scout Frame btw....& AFG > ALL), a pebble in the road strips EHP, Terrain deviates Shots wildly, MAX of 20 Seconds in Combat (If minimal AV present) with a 45 Seconds to 1 Minute Downtime (If not Aggressively Suicidal...), NO "Aim-Assist" whatsoever, our Price Tag is EXCESSIVE (STD FFS....), Rendering is pathetic (LOL Ghost Installations) and 1.5 made it worse (LOL Phase-Dodging Infantry), and come 1.7 (2.5....) we shall have even less to work with (Thank IWS & Wolfman.....) It takes a God-Tier Tanker to even manage any Gains, where a God-Tier Infantryman will indefinitely outshine regardless of situation, & even a Semi-Decent one @ that.....& with a whole lot more Flexibility I might add. You will NOT see even an Adept Tanker go ISK Positive....I assure you of this. Tankers are simply there to draw AGGRO so the CoDbois are forced out of their Element, & if even 1 of them is comfortable with dropping that AR for a sec then we lose ground fast. If I get an entire Squad to hunt me in the Redline & my Team of Blues make a Comeback.....I did my job. If I die ONCE.....back to the drawing board for 5-15 Games. I have dabbled in damn near every Class & Build there is, & I assure you that the "Closed-Minded" one is not this guy Points thumbs @ Self PS: I Hilighted a KEY POINT for LULZ Go back to School kid.....you badly need it I don't like to directly insult people but you are a self righteous ass. Duly noted, & you are a Misenterpreting Ignoramus. We can do this all day When have I misrepresented anyone? I never did that to myself, nor to tankers I believe, nor to infantry since I have and still am one.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2726	Posted - 2013.10.09 04:07:00 - [18] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Meh this has become personal Rant & Flame post. Im out. As always a pleasure discussing AV/Tank stuff with you Adamance.... As usual I can say the same