''An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover''
True, but :
1-sometimes i dont have another chance than taking tanks solo 1 v1 , I play pub matches NOT Pc,where teamwork is common,in FW running alone with randoms taht suck its everyday life.
2-Depends on the enemy team also. A tank,even a badt anker like myself can go 25+ kills and ZERo deaths in a game if your infantry is taking care of the AV infantry. COVER and PREPARATION is something that sometimes you CANT afford.SPECIALLY in AMBUSH

SITUATIONAL

''. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. ''
Agreed, a tanker should kill that AVer instanly, i dont know why they dont.

'' Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked.''

Agreed, i miss the Javelin from BF3.... : /

I can go find the countless threads where you describe your ideal dust version as another call of duty.

Do it, go find posts where I say this should be more like call of duty
and I mean where I say exactly that, none of your butt hurt whining claiming that I want a cod clone because I say tanks should get blown up by one man and not safe cozy spot to keep your ass safe because you are scared to put boots to the ground

Not from you Adamance, Ive seen a lot of your posts and you are a fairly reasonable guy
On the other hand Ive also seen a lot of Voids posts and hes gone after me before spouting a bunch of BS and trying to put words in my mouth and here he is throwing out a challenge claiming Ive said something I havent so Im calling him on it
If he can actually back up what hes saying I say let him do it other wise this is another case of him riding my nuts since I dont think tanks should take a huge amount of concentrated fire with just one massively altering that playing field, something like that is atrocious for game balance and catering to a niche in a bad way

Now if they actually do decide to chop everything up so people can pick and choose game modes its still detrimental but slightly less so, personally though I prefer the mix of things but I think our team sizes and map layouts hinder the true potential of this set up

3 tanks in ambush just kills it.

Point A1- It doesn't matter, I don't care if you are solo, or a player who I don't know too lazy to squad, it makes no damn difference you do not/ should not have the capacity, like you do now, to easily solo a tank.
Point A2- Yes you can, AV can sit around other groups of players and use them as cover, a wall between the enemy teams and such, In ambush you cannot forget there are dozens of squads rolling around, saying because you do not have one you are not covered is a weak argument considering we now have a squad finder.

Point B1- Yeah or I just suck at tracking, which I know I don't for the number of Head Shots on the run I get.
Point B2- That would suit AVers I reckon, and tanks because them then get the chance to break lock, Avers cannot insta lock and spam, plus counter measure modules could be implemented for the time between lock, like AMS, Flares, EM disruption Script, Kinetic Dampeners. But AV retains its killing power and DPS when locked.

I agree with you entirely but in reality you die once, come back with swarm luancher and av grenades and problem solved. Except the real problem is not wanting to use those weapons at all.

I'm surprised they let someone so Mindless past Pre-Kindergarden......... The only thing we don't worry about are Handheld Ballistics (IE: AR, Sniper, Shotty). Even Flaylocks, Scrambler Rifles, Lazers & Mass Drivers contribute.....albeit small. Hitbox is huge, Acceleration is slow, Counter is Insta-Fire & Homing (FG, Swarm, AV Nade), Maps cater to AV & Infantry in general.....especially the new Sockets (Sky Scrapers, Platforms, Cubby Holes, Ridges, etc.). Our Turrets neither look Up nor Down past 35 & 10 Degrees respectively, we have no access to anything past STD except Turrets (FG Hurt Box is 1.5x Heavy Frame while Rail is 1/2 the Scout Frame btw....& AFG > ALL), a pebble in the road strips EHP, Terrain deviates Shots wildly, MAX of 20 Seconds in Combat (If minimal AV present) with a 45 Seconds to 1 Minute Downtime (If not Aggressively Suicidal...), NO "Aim-Assist" whatsoever, our Price Tag is EXCESSIVE (STD FFS....), Rendering is pathetic (LOL Ghost Installations) and 1.5 made it worse (LOL Phase-Dodging Infantry), and come 1.7 (2.5....) we shall have even less to work with (Thank IWS & Wolfman.....)

It takes a God-Tier Tanker to even manage any Gains, where a God-Tier Infantryman will indefinitely outshine regardless of situation, & even a Semi-Decent one @ that.....& with a whole lot more Flexibility I might add. You will NOT see even an Adept Tanker go ISK Positive....I assure you of this. Tankers are simply there to draw AGGRO so the CoDbois are forced out of their Element, & if even 1 of them is comfortable with dropping that AR for a sec then we lose ground fast. If I get an entire Squad to hunt me in the Redline & my Team of Blues make a Comeback.....I did my job. If I die ONCE.....back to the drawing board for 5-15 Games.

I have dabbled in damn near every Class & Build there is, & I assure you that the "Closed-Minded" one is not this guy *Points thumbs @ Self*

PS: I Hilighted a KEY POINT for LULZ

Go back to School kid.....you badly need it

I'm surprised they let someone so Mindless past Pre-Kindergarden......... The only thing we don't worry about are Handheld Ballistics (IE: AR, Sniper, Shotty). Even Flaylocks, Scrambler Rifles, Lazers & Mass Drivers contribute.....albeit small. Hitbox is huge, Acceleration is slow, Counter is Insta-Fire & Homing (FG, Swarm, AV Nade), Maps cater to AV & Infantry in general.....especially the new Sockets (Sky Scrapers, Platforms, Cubby Holes, Ridges, etc.). Our Turrets neither look Up nor Down past 35 & 10 Degrees respectively, we have no access to anything past STD except Turrets (FG Hurt Box is 1.5x Heavy Frame while Rail is 1/2 the Scout Frame btw....& AFG > ALL), a pebble in the road strips EHP, Terrain deviates Shots wildly, MAX of 20 Seconds in Combat (If minimal AV present) with a 45 Seconds to 1 Minute Downtime (If not Aggressively Suicidal...), NO "Aim-Assist" whatsoever, our Price Tag is EXCESSIVE (STD FFS....), Rendering is pathetic (LOL Ghost Installations) and 1.5 made it worse (LOL Phase-Dodging Infantry), and come 1.7 (2.5....) we shall have even less to work with (Thank IWS & Wolfman.....)

It takes a God-Tier Tanker to even manage any Gains, where a God-Tier Infantryman will indefinitely outshine regardless of situation, & even a Semi-Decent one @ that.....& with a whole lot more Flexibility I might add. You will NOT see even an Adept Tanker go ISK Positive....I assure you of this. Tankers are simply there to draw AGGRO so the CoDbois are forced out of their Element, & if even 1 of them is comfortable with dropping that AR for a sec then we lose ground fast. If I get an entire Squad to hunt me in the Redline & my Team of Blues make a Comeback.....I did my job. If I die ONCE.....back to the drawing board for 5-15 Games.

I have dabbled in damn near every Class & Build there is, & I assure you that the "Closed-Minded" one is not this guy *Points thumbs @ Self*

PS: I Hilighted a KEY POINT for LULZ

Go back to School kid.....you badly need it

Do it, go find posts where I say this should be more like call of duty
and I mean where I say exactly that, none of your butt hurt whining claiming that I want a cod clone because I say tanks should get blown up by one man and not safe cozy spot to keep your ass safe because you are scared to put boots to the ground

make tanks and vehicles weaker, we want this to be a call of duty, any vehicle pilot who opposes this is an idiot because they disagree with us, we don't want vehicles, we want to be lazy stupid ass grunts.

Irrelevant is hardly a stinging or meaningful comment, you too are irrelevant Ninja, where is my proof, facts, what does that even mean? Nothing really. If you are going to insult a man put some effort into it. Void is one of the best tankers in this game, if he cannot be pulling off consistent no loss matches then few other people would be able to match a similar standard, and what you just did there in your post is high light how incredibly powerful Swarm Launchers are, adding fodder to the old Tankers argument that there should not be such potent auto locking (now 2x DPS) damaging, and long range AV options.

As for you Checkmate

An infantry man should never take a tank 1 to 1 without having to make use of solid cover, and preparation, 2v1 doable, 3v1 easy. I am sorry but a player should never be able to strafe through tank rounds firing swarms as he does it. Swarmer's should be a long range/long locking AV option to take down armour tanks with high DPS once locked.

Don't even forget prior to becoming a tanker I was a damn good AVer

Your insults are like farts in the wind... I dont care,do your worst.

BUT STILL, you know what? You know WHY CCP will BALANCE tanks NOT buff them? =

Because Many tankers come to the forums to whine how UP tanks are. How Powerful AV weapons are.

BUT THE FACT IS: All these QQ in the forums IS NOT REFLECTED IN-GAME, where tanks most of the time do great and own a LOT. SPECIALLY in game modes as ambush

Unless you are a shield tanker, you can't seriously pretend i will believe that tanks are made of paper....

I never said he was not a Proficient Tanker.....I simply am tired of his incorrigible ignorance. This is the 3rd time he mistook me for a "CoDboi" on the Forum.....& he was in Internal Error (Negative Feedback) at the time of 2 of these "Infractions".......while I was an IMPERFECT..... So not only has he played both WITH & AGAINST me, he has succumbed to my Rail..... & yet.....even in this Thread, where I very clearly go against the OP, he pulls this S**T again??? & I'm the one "In the Wrong" here??? Mind you I'm @ 850 Mil ISK.....& I barely play 1 Day a Week anymore, yet I'm still high on the Leaderboards.....& more often than not play SOLO for the "Challenge". Ask any other Tanker how they are doing with ISK.....even Void, & see how the cards fall. Not "Tooting my Horn".....just tired of the BS, & setting an Example. My points were & are made.....you may have to Re-Read previous Posts in order to Comprehend.....

I don't like to directly insult people but you are a self righteous ass.

I wouldnt be mistaking you for a codboi if you wouldn't be quoting my posts then putting an insult at the bottom..... common sense.

also, after looking back at where you posted and the person that said all that, I do apologize but I again state that I lashed out at you because there was no mention in your post that you weren't attacking me, my name was in the quote and your response was directly after it.

I guess im getting really tired of all this bs from the game and from the forums..... I need to take a ******* break..

Duly noted, & you are a Misenterpreting Ignoramus. We can do this all day

Meh this has become personal Rant & Flame post. Im out.

As always a pleasure discussing AV/Tank stuff with you Adamance....

here you go.


block people from recalling., one of the tankers standing up to infantry double standards regarding infantry going 10/1 and tankers going 10/1, some idiot who complained about not being able to solo a veteran tanker with militia swarms, scrub wanting the vehicle recall system to be practically non existent because he doesnt know how to us AV, lukeboy and others expressing their intense hate for anything thats not infantry, someone wanting one of the only ways tankers survive to be illegal thus disregarding all vehicle survivability, ****** that doesnt understand the difference between a tank and a dropsuit, some random infantry scrub trying to turn tanks into killstreaks like in call of duty, one of you posting one of the worst ideas in our history.


there are TONS more where that came from, its all under different categories, but it all says the same thing:

Blindly Skimming Posts & responding to something you obviously responded to prior, under a different Poster.....while the following DIFFERENT TEXT displays Oppising Views, makes you a Blind Poster who does not think before he acts.....

I said show me where I said any of that
If you are going to accuse me personally have something then back it up with things Ive said, not things other people have said

What cover, it's Ambush, anywhere you go Infantry will be there within 1 minute of your location. The only cover is on the pillers, and you need dropships for that, and they get shot down by any squad with brains.

Your argument is that because tanks are supposedly UP, that gives them the right to abuse a game mode not designed for them? That makes no sense at all.

here you go.


block people from recalling., one of the tankers standing up to infantry double standards regarding infantry going 10/1 and tankers going 10/1, some idiot who complained about not being able to solo a veteran tanker with militia swarms, scrub wanting the vehicle recall system to be practically non existent because he doesnt know how to us AV, lukeboy and others expressing their intense hate for anything thats not infantry, someone wanting one of the only ways tankers survive to be illegal thus disregarding all vehicle survivability, ****** that doesnt understand the difference between a tank and a dropsuit, some random infantry scrub trying to turn tanks into killstreaks like in call of duty, one of you posting one of the worst ideas in our history.


there are TONS more where that came from, its all under different categories, but it all says the same thing:

ok i take back my apology you ignorant dumbass.

So have we agreed that if you get a no vehicle ambush we get a no AV skirmish/domination?