Bad players everywhere agree -- let's remove the single stat that helps good players judge them!

how would it change things to remove kdr? are you going to remove kills and deaths too? it's just a number.

Actually most game only display kills on the scoreboard, not deaths or KDR these are often only seen by the player in their personal stats. KZ BF and COD have all gotten away from blasting the amount of deaths and gone toward trumpeting the amount kills on the scoreboard and leaderboards.

In the instance of DUST 514 the only question to ask does it add any value to the game experience for the player to broadcast that stat at the end of every match. I can't think of a single positive thing it does especially in public matches (i think you could make an argument for PC). The best still are at the top of the scoreboard and leaderboard with their amount of kills and points and the worst are at the bottom. As is stands now if you're at the bottom you're chastised for killing too little and dieing too much which feeds a vicious cycle of player development that focus only on KDR which is not always congruent with good tactics or the goal of victory. In the end it only promotes lone wolf syndrome.

I dont get why u guys keep saying kdr are useless and want to remove it,if u guys don't care why u guys should care if kdr remove or not , it's just because u guys care when u see ur ****** kdr and want to remove it so u can feel better for yourself

no, we want it removed or less of importance mainly because you can have a good kd when your going up against people with far inferior equipment than you then do horrible with people on the same level as you, thus kd means nothing.

I dont get why u guys keep saying kdr are useless and want to remove it,if u guys don't care why u guys should care if kdr remove or not , it's just because u guys care when u see ur ****** kdr and want to remove it so u can feel better for yourself

I actually couldn't care less about my kdr, I keep it decent but I don't care how much I did in a pub match as long as I make enough isk to cover my losses (since I usually run militia these days it's not a problem)/win the match/get first place through wp/**** off the entire opposing team by killing them all in one way or another.
I usually get 1st place when I play pub matches and I like that, what I don't like is the way everyone ONLY cares about their kdr, they end up running right past objectives so they can chase some scout for a kill. I can honest attribute my success in most matches to not caring a single **** about my kdr

Thoughts for and against?

Thoughts for and against?

Remove kdr? I feel this would only serve to make bad/ new players feel better about themselves, and inconvenience players that wish to get a frame of reference as to how good other players are. Unless you have some master method of measuring skill with a different stat, kdr is the only frame of reference we have atm.

And what the hell is up with these suggestions for stats? We don't need any stats removed, only some new ones. How is how much isk an individual earns on average per game a measure of his skill?

The stats we need the most right now are average WP per game (not isk), and average KD spread per game.

You guys know what kd spread is right? Kills - Deaths = KD spread or in other words how many clones you help or hurt your time by on average. A much easier way of finding your current kd/spread would be to subtract your total lifetime kills by deaths, then divide that number by the total amount of games you have played in your entire Dust career.

Other stats for fairness to logis that we may need are average healing per game, successful revives/failed revives ratio (a revive that results in the revived player remaining alive for at least 30 seconds, divided by the amount of times they pick someone up in front of the firing squad). An average good revive (GR) bad revive (BR) spread per game (GRBR spread) would be useful as well.

Perhaps even average team spawns accrued per game. Of course, the more important stats should come first. More stats are nice, but having more than the essentials could also put too much strain on the system, causing more game crashes, memory leaks, etc.