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Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:40:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I'm curious, who are the most active faction warfare corps and who do they fight for? I barely touch it so have no idea. This might also help answer the OPs question, if it turns out there are loads of corps fighting for Min/Gal. So far we have:
PIE inc - Amarr Science for Death - Minmatar
ROFL fights for the Federation. Yes, all of us. We use it instead of pub matches and do q-syncs often filling mostof an entire team. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
185
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:41:00 -
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Only read the first page of this thread but would like to point out in case no one has stepped up and said it already:
The Covert Intervention alliance has just finished a month long FW campaign for Gallente in both EVE and DUST.
Our alliance supports Gallente in EVE and so this carries over to all corporations in DUST (although I have seen some members ignoring this obligation). Throughout this FW campaign and even outside of it we try to q-sync as much as possible and near enough always win.
If you are still adding to that list you can find 13 for Gallente >here< |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2401
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:42:00 -
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A few things,
1) Yes FoxFour, I understand FW doesn't do matchmaking from the entire player pool, but it has to match up people from matches in some form or fashion based on who is queued for what faction.
2) FoxFour confirmed that because the Gallente and Minmatar have most districts they have an easy job keeping it this way. That is pretty much acknowledging that FW as it is now is broken, you get put in a hole you can't possibly dig yourself out of (as evident by the success of PIE and PIE supporters dominating Amarr FW and nothing changes). How can you let Dust side FW affect EVE side FW in any form when it is so badly broken at the moment?
3) A lot of us would still like some graphs regarding who's winning how many battles in FW, because even if Gallente/Minmatar have more good players, there is no way they are winning 99% of all FW battles. I mean, I've been in a squad where we won 20 straight matches in FW, you telling me that is only good enough for 1%? So that was countered by 1,980 wins that day for the Minmatar? Huh. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2401
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:47:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Only read the first page of this thread but would like to point out in case no one has stepped up and said it already: The Covert Intervention alliance has just finished a month long FW campaign for Gallente in both EVE and DUST. Our alliance supports Gallente in EVE and so this carries over to all corporations in DUST (although I have seen some members ignoring this obligation). Throughout this FW campaign and even outside of it we try to q-sync as much as possible and near enough always win. If you are still adding to that list you can find 13 for Gallente > here< Yes, someone has stepped up and said this . . . in the very first post! Look man, I acknowledged that there are corporations and alliances making big pushes in Dust FW winning most there matches. Hey guess what? PIE, PIE supporters, and EoN has made a push all this month for Amarr FW and won well over 90% of those matches! You know what, I'm sure there's a ton of squads out there supporting their faction and winning most there matches.
What I'm saying is, something really weird is happening outside of these matches. I mean, if someone were asked to draw a conclusion on the status of FW after only watching matches I've been in, they would say that Amarr holds the vast majority of districts.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
185
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:53:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:Only read the first page of this thread but would like to point out in case no one has stepped up and said it already: The Covert Intervention alliance has just finished a month long FW campaign for Gallente in both EVE and DUST. Our alliance supports Gallente in EVE and so this carries over to all corporations in DUST (although I have seen some members ignoring this obligation). Throughout this FW campaign and even outside of it we try to q-sync as much as possible and near enough always win. If you are still adding to that list you can find 13 for Gallente > here< Yes, someone has stepped up and said this . . . in the very first post! Look man, I acknowledged that there are corporations and alliances making big pushes in Dust FW winning most there matches. Hey guess what? PIE, PIE supporters, and EoN has made a push all this month for Amarr FW and won well over 90% of those matches! You know what, I'm sure there's a ton of squads out there supporting their faction and winning most there matches. What I'm saying is, something really weird is happening outside of these matches. I mean, if someone were asked to draw a conclusion on the status of FW after only watching matches I've been in, they would say that Amarr holds the vast majority of districts.
You said that Covert Intervention has been on a month long FW campaign? Damn, I must have overlooked that. FYI that is what I was referring to when I wrote "if no one has stepped up and said it already" - to clarify.
And yes, I can see what you are saying.
EDIT: I see it may have been confusing as I didn't quote post#12 as intended. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
185
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:56:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly.
+1
The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2471
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:00:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:Only read the first page of this thread but would like to point out in case no one has stepped up and said it already: The Covert Intervention alliance has just finished a month long FW campaign for Gallente in both EVE and DUST. Our alliance supports Gallente in EVE and so this carries over to all corporations in DUST (although I have seen some members ignoring this obligation). Throughout this FW campaign and even outside of it we try to q-sync as much as possible and near enough always win. If you are still adding to that list you can find 13 for Gallente > here< Yes, someone has stepped up and said this . . . in the very first post! Look man, I acknowledged that there are corporations and alliances making big pushes in Dust FW winning most there matches. Hey guess what? PIE, PIE supporters, and EoN has made a push all this month for Amarr FW and won well over 90% of those matches! You know what, I'm sure there's a ton of squads out there supporting their faction and winning most there matches. What I'm saying is, something really weird is happening outside of these matches. I mean, if someone were asked to draw a conclusion on the status of FW after only watching matches I've been in, they would say that Amarr holds the vast majority of districts. You said that Covert Intervention has been on a month long FW campaign? Damn, I must have overlooked that. FYI that is what I was referring to when I wrote "if no one has stepped up and said it already" - to clarify. And yes, I can see what you are saying. This is also rather negligible since PIE Inc is always on an Amarr Campaign, always complexing, always Q-Syncing when we can, etc.
Admittedly we aren't as big as your alliance but the results from out players are always the same always better than 1 loss for every five wins, the issue Aero is talking about is that Dust Contracts are constantly generated, this means the side with the lower number of contracts automatically is at a disadvantage before the match even begins because all Offensive contracts are vastly more concentrated against those districts while defensive contracts are set to the few systems under attack by the winning side. As we said earlier it was a matter of us winning a match and immediately afterwards seeing that same district under attack again.....
This does not sit with the FW style of pendulum swings. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2471
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:03:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. Though I cannot understand why since this is only a game....
Plus I find players who follow the word democracy or freedom boring and generally not worth engaging in RPing with.... the occasional few I do are very knowledgeable and tend to be more unique than the standard "American hero" archetype.
I mean gods sake this is new eden, you could be anything, you could be a pirate, you could be a criminal, you could be a soldier pressed into service bitter against his own nation but still loyal to the cause..... there are so many things people can be in New Eden but they choose not to for no other reason than to follow the crowd. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
186
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:06:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. Though I cannot understand why since this is only a game.... Plus I find players who follow the word democracy or freedom boring and generally not worth engaging in RPing with.... the occasional few I do are very knowledgeable and tend to be more unique than the standard "American hero" archetype. I mean gods sake this is new eden, you could be anything, you could be a pirate, you could be a criminal, you could be a soldier pressed into service bitter against his own nation but still loyal to the cause..... there are so many things people can be in New Eden but they choose not to for no other reason than to follow the crowd.
Yeah, it is just a game but I'm not heavily invested in RP and so any game character I create will ultimately reflect myself.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2405
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:08:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. How about I tell you about the Gallente Federation whose politicians have corrupted the government, able to stay in office as long as they please. The upper class with prestige standards of living while everyone else lives in slums? A economical system where it is made extremely easy for those with high standing to push others off the success ladder as soon as they begin making progress? A drug culture where a substantial majority of civilians are taking life-damaging drugs harming countless innocent lives, and a government who refuses to intervene because the illegal drug trade is the only thing keeping the Gallente economy from crashing?
Yeah, that Gallente Federation? Have fun fighting for corrupt megalomaniacs and drug lords! |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2471
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:10:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:True Adamance wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. Though I cannot understand why since this is only a game.... Plus I find players who follow the word democracy or freedom boring and generally not worth engaging in RPing with.... the occasional few I do are very knowledgeable and tend to be more unique than the standard "American hero" archetype. I mean gods sake this is new eden, you could be anything, you could be a pirate, you could be a criminal, you could be a soldier pressed into service bitter against his own nation but still loyal to the cause..... there are so many things people can be in New Eden but they choose not to for no other reason than to follow the crowd. Yeah, it is just a game but I'm not heavily invested in RP and so any game character I create will ultimately reflect myself. Fair enough, though I started to wonder recently what it is about Dust and EVE that makes people create characters that reflect themselves or better versions of themselves.
In anycase I tend to make characters that totally diverge from myself, that I think are interesting and that other people will hopefully find interesting. |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1124
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:True Adamance wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:
I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone.
You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly.
+1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. Though I cannot understand why since this is only a game.... Plus I find players who follow the word democracy or freedom boring and generally not worth engaging in RPing with.... the occasional few I do are very knowledgeable and tend to be more unique than the standard "American hero" archetype. I mean gods sake this is new eden, you could be anything, you could be a pirate, you could be a criminal, you could be a soldier pressed into service bitter against his own nation but still loyal to the cause..... there are so many things people can be in New Eden but they choose not to for no other reason than to follow the crowd. Yeah, it is just a game but I'm not heavily invested in RP and so any game character I create will ultimately reflect myself. Fair enough, though I started to wonder recently what it is about Dust and EVE that makes people create characters that reflect themselves or better versions of themselves. It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2405
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:18:00 -
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First Prophet wrote: It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple.
Except, again, when you assume you understand some race and that it reflects who you are, but missed some pretty big aspects of that race that aren't so great. Go back a couple posts to see the lovely details Gallente players seem to overlook. I could make similarly bad accusations about the Minmatar Republic. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
297
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:49:00 -
[104] - Quote
Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2411
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:56:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3628
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:59:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. I like how you accuse someone else of domestic violence when you beat your slaves. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
405
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:01:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:If I play FW on this character, which happens to be a Heavy, the teams I usually get placed in end up losing terribly.
However, on my MinLogi alt, things go much more smoothly, especially when I squad up with some of my corp members from OSG. Wat? Who of your alts is in OSG?
Idk if I know you or not lol |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr S.A.D
1445
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. I like how you accuse someone else of domestic violence when you beat your slaves.
attacking slaves is a crime. no really it is, holders that are caught abusing their slaves get harshly punished |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2411
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. I like how you accuse someone else of domestic violence when you beat your slaves. Except we don't, and as Steady has stated, those who do are violating laws and are criminals. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1459
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:48:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Pretty much a combination of 1 and 3.
Gallente and Minmatar had some more skilled players, took almost all the districts, and now are having an easier time keeping it like that. We basically don't do any matchmaking on FW matches, think of them as being for more veteran players.
We do have... some changes coming to FW in the more near future that should hopefully help balance this out. :)
well thats funny. I might not be ''skilled'' as minmatar and gallante mercs , but i win at least 95% of my FW matches. ALL FOR AMARR.huh. Guess mercs really DONT do a difference in this game as promised.... |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2482
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. I like how you accuse someone else of domestic violence when you beat your slaves. Arkena you are smart enough lore wise to know there are laws against that sort of thing in Amarr with the punishment for crimes being slavery itself. Wise up mate, I respect as one of the few gallenteans worth RPing and talking to, please don't ruin that for me. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
379
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:15:00 -
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of corse gallente and minmatar are defeating you
because we have all the scouts |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1130
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:32:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. How about I tell you about the Gallente Federation whose politicians have corrupted the government, able to stay in office as long as they please. The upper class with prestige standards of living while everyone else lives in slums? A economical system where it is made extremely easy for those with high standing to push others off the success ladder as soon as they begin making progress? A drug culture where a substantial majority of civilians are taking life-damaging drugs harming countless innocent lives, and a government who refuses to intervene because the illegal drug trade is the only thing keeping the Gallente economy from crashing? Heck, the whole situation with the Caldari is primarily because of what the Caldari bring to the Federation economy. Even though the Caldari wish to leave the Federation in peace, the Gallente won't allow it because they need them. Yeah, that Gallente Federation? Have fun fighting for corrupt megalomaniacs and drug lords! Better than being a slaver. |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1130
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Posted - 2013.10.02 00:38:00 -
[114] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:First Prophet wrote: It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple.
Except, again, when you assume you understand some race and that it reflects who you are, but missed some pretty big aspects of that race that aren't so great. Go back a couple posts to see the lovely details Gallente players seem to overlook. I could make similarly bad accusations about the Minmatar Republic. I didn't assume anything. None of these races are great enough to reflect me. They all have flaws unlike me. But the minmatar are the closest to reflecting me.
And please, stop judging other people for overlooking their race's flaws. Especially when you devote so much effort on overlooking the Amarr's flaws. You want everyone to acknowledge their own faults but ignore yours. |
itsmellslikefish
DIOS EX. Top Men.
267
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:37:00 -
[115] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. How about I tell you about the Gallente Federation whose politicians have corrupted the government, able to stay in office as long as they please. The upper class with prestige standards of living while everyone else lives in slums? A economical system where it is made extremely easy for those with high standing to push others off the success ladder as soon as they begin making progress? A drug culture where a substantial majority of civilians are taking life-damaging drugs harming countless innocent lives, and a government who refuses to intervene because the illegal drug trade is the only thing keeping the Gallente economy from crashing? Heck, the whole situation with the Caldari is primarily because of what the Caldari bring to the Federation economy. Even though the Caldari wish to leave the Federation in peace, the Gallente won't allow it because they need them. Yeah, that Gallente Federation? Have fun fighting for corrupt megalomaniacs and drug lords! Better than being a slaver.
Minnies ought to pull a django |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
324
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Posted - 2013.10.02 01:43:00 -
[116] - Quote
CCP FoxFour wrote:Pretty much a combination of 1 and 3.
Gallente and Minmatar had some more skilled players, took almost all the districts, and now are having an easier time keeping it like that. We basically don't do any matchmaking on FW matches, think of them as being for more veteran players.
We do have... some changes coming to FW in the more near future that should hopefully help balance this out. :) do you honestly expect this game to be around on 4 months ?
is ccp really making money off dust? (i hadn't thought the gaming community even had that many idiots)
and even if dust is around in 4 months are you sure anyone will be playing it |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2417
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Posted - 2013.10.02 02:00:00 -
[117] - Quote
First Prophet wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:First Prophet wrote: It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple.
Except, again, when you assume you understand some race and that it reflects who you are, but missed some pretty big aspects of that race that aren't so great. Go back a couple posts to see the lovely details Gallente players seem to overlook. I could make similarly bad accusations about the Minmatar Republic. I didn't assume anything. None of these races are great enough to reflect me. They all have flaws unlike me. But the minmatar are the closest to reflecting me. And please, stop judging other people for overlooking their race's flaws. Especially when you devote so much effort on overlooking the Amarr's flaws. You want everyone to acknowledge their own faults but ignore yours. Obviously Amarr has flaws, but everyone else has brought them up plenty, I don't need to assist them. What isn't being brought up are the flaws of the other empires as well as the good side of Amarr and Caldari, so that's where I put a little more emphasis.
Simply want people to have a good understanding, as for who you support that is up to you. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
298
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Posted - 2013.10.02 02:13:00 -
[118] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. That is debatable. Also there are plenty of very bad things about the Gallente and Minmatar as well as many good aspects of Amarr and Caldari. Just because you choose to look at the empires with a very shallow perspective does not mean that's how it is. Personally I find the Gallente a lot more dangerous to humanity than any of the rest, but if you don't actually look into the lore and see why I can understand why you'd say, "But Gallente are freedom and Amarr are slavery!" There's a lot more to it.
Strawman aside -Couldnt agree more. But the Caldari are a facsist state whose governing power derives from the role of the CEO. The CEO cares about control, nothing more. Amarrians worship a woman who by birth was declared a goddess and suffers from the dueling Other residing in her brain and a Vitoc enslavement by her number one officer.
Corrupt governments can be overthrown.The control centers of Tribalism are much more fluid as the strongest rules the day. You cannot overthrow a permanent entity such as a Corporation, they must be forced out by another entity without soul. You cannot overthrow a goddess which 1/3 of an empire (and nearly half population wise) would gladly give their lives for.
Shallow or not, you are defending your ideology (or that of your character) and our opinions are meaningless. Who wins is decided by the districts which are conquered.
And your side lost.
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Satja Askarin
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2013.10.02 02:21:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. That is debatable. Also there are plenty of very bad things about the Gallente and Minmatar as well as many good aspects of Amarr and Caldari. Just because you choose to look at the empires with a very shallow perspective does not mean that's how it is. Personally I find the Gallente a lot more dangerous to humanity than any of the rest, but if you don't actually look into the lore and see why I can understand why you'd say, "But Gallente are freedom and Amarr are slavery!" There's a lot more to it. Strawman aside -Couldnt agree more. But the Caldari are a facsist state whose governing power derives from the role of the CEO. The CEO cares about control, nothing more. Amarrians worship a woman who by birth was declared a goddess and suffers from the dueling Other residing in her brain and a Vitoc enslavement by her number one officer. Corrupt governments can be overthrown.The control centers of Tribalism are much more fluid as the strongest rules the day. You cannot overthrow a permanent entity such as a Corporation, they must be forced out by another entity without soul. You cannot overthrow a goddess which 1/3 of an empire (and nearly half population wise) would gladly give their lives for. Shallow or not, you are defending your ideology (or that of your character) and our opinions are meaningless. Who wins is decided by the districts which are conquered. And your side lost. As much as I loathe to say this because I am a supporter of Sarum and my master, there are many dangers that await the servants of God. However I cannot understand why anyone would want to change the status quo within the Empire, slaves like myself are fed and clothed, schooled and given a purpose, the Amarr faith gives me hope. |
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Posted - 2013.10.02 02:23:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:
And your side lost.
Dont be so full of yourself...The battle hasn't even started yet.... |
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