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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.30 09:46:00 -
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When you look at the star map in Dust and switch to the faction warfare tab, what you are looking at is who controls the districts Dust-side. Something some of you may have noticed since Uprising 1.4 hit is that the Minmatar and Gallente have held over 99% of the districts for what is now nearly a month.
Before I continue, let me get the elephant out of the room. Yes, I'm a known Amarr supporter. Please do not take this as me making excuses for the Amarr doing poorly in holding districts. I simply want to discuss this topic with an open mind, so please leave all snide comments at the door.
So, many people are playing FW near exclusively now. And by most accounts I have seen, whenever you play you seem to win practically every time, regardless for which faction you support. So assuming that both sides of the affair have a roughly equal number of corporations supporting them, which seems to be the case, then it must come down to the random blueberries who fight for on our behalf when we are not there. However, does it seem logical to assume that these blueberries are winning 99% of the time while on the Minmatar or Gallente side?
I've been discussing this with some people and here's a few theories we came up with, though of course with no way to prove them:
1) A dev said something around the launch of 1.4 that they were afraid Minmatar and Gallente FW matchmaking may get broken because they have no districts to attack. So this may imply that each faction is constantly pushing out contracts to attack other districts, and then the other matching that contract with a defense. So if the number of say Amarr or Caldari attack contracts are equal to the number of Minmatar or Gallente attack contracts, with so little districts for the Minmatar or Gallente to attack they will constantly be attacking the same district until it flips over, and as soon as the Amarr or Caldari gain a new district it will be constantly relentless attacked until they lose it again. So it's not so much a case of the Minmatar and Gallente winning 99% of all battles, but the Amarr and Caldari simply stuck in a whole.
2) The matchmaking looks at various qualifications for who attacks and defends, taking the higher skill point players to do attacks while the lower skill point players defend. This would result in the Amarr and Caldari gaining districts, but unable to hold them for any length of time. I do notice that every time my squad takes over a district, usually within 20 to 40 minutes (1 to 2 matches) it is lost again, and that my squad almost never gets defense contracts.
3) Amarr and Caldari random bluedots are simply scrubs while Minmatar and Gallente random bluedots are actually intelligent.
Or maybe it's none of these. I'm not sure. Though I do think it would be appropriate for CCP to do a small investigation on the matter, even something as simply as looking at which side is winning what percent of the battles and relating that to the ownership percent of the districts. I know some say it doesn't really matter, but Dust-side control of FW districts does impact EVE to an extent.
Again, I am not trying to make excuses for my preferred factions status in FW, I am simply suggesting that with a mode controlled by random teaming, it is a bit suspicious that one side can hold control of over 99% of districts for so many consecutive days. If there is some proof given out that Minmatar and Gallente really are winning 99% of all FW battles then I will accept that. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2344
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Posted - 2013.09.30 09:59:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:This is a pretty interesting topic, I can only talk from my experience but when I play FW with my corp we win I would say more than 90% of our battles for minmatar in our time zone (Aus), so to me it really does feel like were winning all the time. However you do raise an interesting point in that because you don't have many districts anymore anything you do take back is instantly swarmed and lost because there are so few targets for us to attack so your basically stuck.
Im gunna go with option 2 And likewise whenever I'm with my squad we win well over 90% of our battles as well, and lord knows how many we've played in total this month.
I just find it odd because I can get on with my buddies and do an Amarr FW marathon practically all day and maybe lose 1 or 2 battles in that session, yet at the end of the day we look at the star map and everything is still either 99% or 100% Minmatar.
Option 2 would explain why our organized squads rarely appear to bump into each other while we both win the vast majority of our matches with no progress ever being made. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2346
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Posted - 2013.09.30 10:22:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Wait, I thought that other guy from your corp (I forget his name) was saying not too long ago that he wants more players to step up to the challenge of winning more minmatar battles as he keeps dominating the minmatar...?
I'm confused. True Adamance. And yes, he did. However, if you took the time to read this thread you will see that we individually are winning close to 100% of all our battles, and this is given a very large sample size. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2346
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Posted - 2013.09.30 10:25:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Wait, I thought that other guy from your corp (I forget his name) was saying not too long ago that he wants more players to step up to the challenge of winning more minmatar battles as he keeps dominating the minmatar...?
I'm confused. That was the whole reason we even started FW and now we do it almost exclusively Oh hey, Science for Death. We did face you one time last night, and did beat you pretty handily if I do recall correctly
Ok, ok, let's not turn this into a smack talk thread. Stay on topic people! However, since I did take a jab at you I will allow you one as well |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.09.30 11:16:00 -
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DildoMcnutz wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DildoMcnutz wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Wait, I thought that other guy from your corp (I forget his name) was saying not too long ago that he wants more players to step up to the challenge of winning more minmatar battles as he keeps dominating the minmatar...?
I'm confused. That was the whole reason we even started FW and now we do it almost exclusively Oh hey, Science for Death. We did face you one time last night, and did beat you pretty handily if I do recall correctly Ok, ok, let's not turn this into a smack talk thread. Stay on topic people! However, since I did take a jab at you I will allow you one as well Bloody American time zone letting us down jks jks, I don't think I have ever seen PIE inc in game before, maybe I need to do a 24 hour seesion My eyes may fall out of my head but the games will be worth it Well unfortunately PIE Inc actually doesn't have too many active Dust members, but we have a ton of active Dust supporters. Usually we will have one or more full squad in a match and only one of two of us are actually in PIE and no one else in the same corporation, so to the enemy team it looks like we're a bunch of randoms yet we play together quite often; perhaps that's why you don't notice. We did play your corp within the past 24 hours though.
And yeah it's a shame, I don't know why all these guys don't join PIE, a premiere Amarr RP corp and the 3rd oldest surviving EVE corp, a lot of history here and a lot of good management. Nonetheless, as long as they are supporting us, squading with us, and having fun then what more could I ask for!
Ok but on topic, for emphasis, CCP can you please do a small investigation on this! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2349
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Posted - 2013.09.30 11:20:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:I'm curious, who are the most active faction warfare corps and who do they fight for? I barely touch it so have no idea. This might also help answer the OPs question, if it turns out there are loads of corps fighting for Min/Gal. So far we have:
PIE inc - Amarr Science for Death - Minmatar I have a list somewhere, can't seem to pull it up right now. There are a bunch of corps on both sides however. And regardless, simply using the example I have given of my squad doing an Amarr FW marathon winning every match, yet at the end of the day seeing no progress made on the star map, should be enough to raise an eyebrow. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2349
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Posted - 2013.09.30 11:38:00 -
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Thank you for the response, Heinrich Jagerblitzen. Good to know that a CPM member has heard this plea
What I can tell you, which may be known to many here already, is that PIE has made a collaborative push with TeamPlayers for Amarr FW this past week and all squads involved are reporting dominance, yet the star map remains the same day-in day-out.
To be honest I'm happy that more people want to participate in FW, however I do believe FW needs some mild restrictions as many of the players I come across really should be doing public contracts a little more. In fairness, CCP doesn't really do a good job explaining to people what FW is and how it differs from Public contracts. When so many players are using FW as matchmaking 2.0, it can be hard for any group to make any real impact since, unlike EVE, there is a limit to how many people can attack or defend a specific spot at one time.
I do believe a way to get around this while putting the fewest restrictions on players (or none at all, which would be great!) is allowing Dust players a means to pick where they want to focus their efforts, changing it so it takes multiple battles to overtake a district instead of simply one "winner takes all," and a means to temporarily secure and lock a district. Here's one suggestion I posted awhile ago on how to do that, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1323604#post1323604 |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2349
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Posted - 2013.09.30 11:39:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:I agree, I did an amarr contract. Got into a half finished match. Want to know were my team was? In our redline trying to figure out wich side of a gun the bullet comes out of.
I went to work, captured a cannon, destroyed some protos using a MLT scout and some RE.
Seriously though, matchmaking for FW needs to be looked at. Join us in the channel PIE Ground Deployment if you're ever looking for a squad and want to do whatever it takes to win, lots of great Amarr players there! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2349
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Posted - 2013.09.30 12:01:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Well if you think about it, the average FPS player who has no knowledge of the EVE Universe whatsoever will probably support the Minmatar or Gallente. Those ideals of strength, rebellion and freedom simply appeal to someone who just wants to shoot people.
As opposed to the corporate, industrial Caldari which no one cares about in DUST because everything is bought from an NPC store at the moment, and the Amarr who're probably shallowly interpreted as religious fanatics by those with a narrow view of the lore and at best, slavemasters. The first thing I personally learnt about the Amarr, and I'm sure this applies to many new members of CCP's universe, is that they had took the Minmatar as slaves, and I was opposed already.
Obviously, this is not the full picture. But first impressions count, and that's what I got, and that's most likely what another average player felt.
Definitely agree that first impressions are a big deal and that a lot of people read Amarr and slavery and instantly hate them, even though they are not quite the bad guys first impressions would lead you to believe. Of course PIE is working on a way to better inform new Dusters on who the Amarr are before they make up their minds, because people like you are already pretty locked in your belief against Amarr which is totally fine!
Still, there are plenty of players supporting all sides so I would not suspect this to be the root of the problem in FW. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2353
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Posted - 2013.09.30 15:27:00 -
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Aleksander Black wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote: And yeah it's a shame, I don't know why all these guys don't join PIE, a premiere Amarr RP corp and the 3rd oldest surviving EVE corp, a lot of history here and a lot of good management. Nonetheless, as long as they are supporting us, squading with us, and having fun then what more could I ask for!
Is this an invite? I have to say that I did consider joining PIE before joining my current Corporation. I didn't apply because, although I am loyal to Amarr and love it's suits and weapons, and I even like the RP aspect of your corp (that's why I stick in PIE Public even with the Ground Deployment Channel), although all that, I couldn't part away from my SMG. Simple as that, I just couldn't. It's already too intensive to aim with the Scrambler Rifle at medium ranges, if I also had to use a precision gun at short range, with no bonus to armor damage on top of it, I would go nuts. It's just so relaxing to swap to a SMG and melt people in close quarters that I couldn't give it up. To contribute a little to the question at hand though, I will tell you my experience when I play alone in FW for Amarr. I lose pretty much every time. I do finish in 1st way more often than not but it simply isn't enough to carry the whole match. Sometimes it's clear that there is an organized squad at the other side. Other times it just feels that the Minmatar side is overall less stupid. Evidence is inconclusive but it's such a pain to play alone that I'm hardly willing to go back there again to gather more "data" (and by data I mean bullets and explosives from all sides and not a hint of support from the team). Well, as much as I'd love to convince you how superior the scrambler pistol is, I feel I should also let you in on a little secret.
PIE has a clause for Dust currently that you use all Amarr tech except where there is yet an alternative. Since Amarr will be getting an SMG eventually, use of the Minmatar SMG is accepted.
So if that was the only thing holding you back, you now have no excuse! |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2366
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Posted - 2013.09.30 20:10:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:You're darned tootin' we are.
Especially when I'm playing.
Munch Perhaps when you play yes, as when I play. But do you honestly believe that this is the case for the totality of FW matches? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2372
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Posted - 2013.09.30 20:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I mean it is odd. Many of the matches PIE Ground Deployment squad enter end with EVE support and the win, yet we never gain ground.
Sadly I feel there are only 30ish players who actively make a difference to Amarr FW. You should of seen some of the ridiculous efforts PIE and company put together for Amarr FW while you were gone. Look, if the rest of those who support Amarr is FW are simply terribad then I'm upset but I can accept that, so long as our efforts make some impact. We went above and beyond the call, many straight hours of victories for Amarr day-in-day-out, with multiple squads searching for multiple battles, yet at the end of the day our opposition still holds 99%. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2372
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Posted - 2013.09.30 20:26:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:The FW map is all determining how it looks on EVE. Even if amarr had won 100% of every FW match in the past 3 months and the EVE side of Amarr FW did nothing that map would look the same.
The thing that Dust does is make it easier for the EVE players to take systems. That's what I originally thought, but is not the case. The FW map we see in Dust is in fact detailing Dust-side control. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2373
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Posted - 2013.09.30 20:31:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote: The indoctrination runs deep in this one. But since he's been granted immortality, he may have time to see through the lies and adopt a life that has conscious meaning.
Until them we'll just keep putting him down. I like to think of it as tough love.
You realize the same could be said for you or anyone? Stating someone only supports a faction due to indoctrination or brainwash is getting moot. Anyways, I'm not really trying to start some IC debate here. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2383
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Posted - 2013.10.01 02:04:00 -
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20 minutes ago my squad attacked Lantorn IV District 6 and took over control. Literally not even a minute later our second squad reported to be defending Lantorn IV District 6, the very same district. Are you serious? After owning the district for not even a single minute it is already under attack? Come on CCP!!!! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2390
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:51:00 -
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^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.01 10:57:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:20 minutes ago my squad attacked Lantorn IV District 6 and took over control. Literally not even a minute later our second squad reported to be defending Lantorn IV District 6, the very same district. Are you serious? After owning the district for not even a single minute it is already under attack? Come on CCP!!!! The good news is all you will need is a simple 10 minute lock but on the district. Though they will likely have to reset the planets now :-( To be honest, I do not believe 10 minutes is nearly long enough. I'm thinking something in the range of multiple hours. However, to do that they would first need a system in place where every battle isn't a "winner takes all" like it is now. Battles on a district need progression towards the final blow which would flip the district and lock it temporarily. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2400
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:56:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. That is debatable.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:58:00 -
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CCP FoxFour wrote:Pretty much a combination of 1 and 3.
Gallente and Minmatar had some more skilled players, took almost all the districts, and now are having an easier time keeping it like that. We basically don't do any matchmaking on FW matches, think of them as being for more veteran players.
We do have... some changes coming to FW in the more near future that should hopefully help balance this out. :) Thanks for the response, but it still doesn't really explain how we can organize multiple squads to do a marathon for Amarr FW and win nearly every single match, yet unable to make any difference on the star map. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2401
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:42:00 -
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A few things,
1) Yes FoxFour, I understand FW doesn't do matchmaking from the entire player pool, but it has to match up people from matches in some form or fashion based on who is queued for what faction.
2) FoxFour confirmed that because the Gallente and Minmatar have most districts they have an easy job keeping it this way. That is pretty much acknowledging that FW as it is now is broken, you get put in a hole you can't possibly dig yourself out of (as evident by the success of PIE and PIE supporters dominating Amarr FW and nothing changes). How can you let Dust side FW affect EVE side FW in any form when it is so badly broken at the moment?
3) A lot of us would still like some graphs regarding who's winning how many battles in FW, because even if Gallente/Minmatar have more good players, there is no way they are winning 99% of all FW battles. I mean, I've been in a squad where we won 20 straight matches in FW, you telling me that is only good enough for 1%? So that was countered by 1,980 wins that day for the Minmatar? Huh. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2401
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Posted - 2013.10.01 19:47:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:Only read the first page of this thread but would like to point out in case no one has stepped up and said it already: The Covert Intervention alliance has just finished a month long FW campaign for Gallente in both EVE and DUST. Our alliance supports Gallente in EVE and so this carries over to all corporations in DUST (although I have seen some members ignoring this obligation). Throughout this FW campaign and even outside of it we try to q-sync as much as possible and near enough always win. If you are still adding to that list you can find 13 for Gallente > here< Yes, someone has stepped up and said this . . . in the very first post! Look man, I acknowledged that there are corporations and alliances making big pushes in Dust FW winning most there matches. Hey guess what? PIE, PIE supporters, and EoN has made a push all this month for Amarr FW and won well over 90% of those matches! You know what, I'm sure there's a ton of squads out there supporting their faction and winning most there matches.
What I'm saying is, something really weird is happening outside of these matches. I mean, if someone were asked to draw a conclusion on the status of FW after only watching matches I've been in, they would say that Amarr holds the vast majority of districts.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2405
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:08:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:^Good info, but not the appropriate thread for this. Please stay on topic! I disagree. I think these back stories are the reasons which cause players to choose their FW allegiance. RP as you will -but people (not so hard for politicians) from 1st and 2nd world nations have a hard time supporting factions (even imaginary ones) which support slavery or fascism. Little as I actually invest (RP wise) into my character. I would never fight for Amarr or Caldari for those reasons alone. You can blame matchmaking or farming or whatever you like. The fact is that Amarr and Caldari lost, and will continue to lose because those factions are unpopular -Not because the game treats them unfairly. +1 The moment I heard "slaves" I was turned away from the Amarr. How about I tell you about the Gallente Federation whose politicians have corrupted the government, able to stay in office as long as they please. The upper class with prestige standards of living while everyone else lives in slums? A economical system where it is made extremely easy for those with high standing to push others off the success ladder as soon as they begin making progress? A drug culture where a substantial majority of civilians are taking life-damaging drugs harming countless innocent lives, and a government who refuses to intervene because the illegal drug trade is the only thing keeping the Gallente economy from crashing?
Yeah, that Gallente Federation? Have fun fighting for corrupt megalomaniacs and drug lords! |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2405
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:18:00 -
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First Prophet wrote: It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple.
Except, again, when you assume you understand some race and that it reflects who you are, but missed some pretty big aspects of that race that aren't so great. Go back a couple posts to see the lovely details Gallente players seem to overlook. I could make similarly bad accusations about the Minmatar Republic. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2411
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Posted - 2013.10.01 21:56:00 -
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IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2411
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Posted - 2013.10.01 22:47:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:IceShifter Childhaspawn wrote:Killar-12 wrote: So you support Corruption and (Can't remeber the bad thing about the minmatar)?
So I have authority issues. And domestic violence issues. I like how you accuse someone else of domestic violence when you beat your slaves. Except we don't, and as Steady has stated, those who do are violating laws and are criminals. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.02 02:00:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:First Prophet wrote: It's not just dust and eve, that happens everywhere. And people do it because it's easy. You don't need to think about your race's background or some lore somebody else made up. You can just be yourself. It's pretty simple.
Except, again, when you assume you understand some race and that it reflects who you are, but missed some pretty big aspects of that race that aren't so great. Go back a couple posts to see the lovely details Gallente players seem to overlook. I could make similarly bad accusations about the Minmatar Republic. I didn't assume anything. None of these races are great enough to reflect me. They all have flaws unlike me. But the minmatar are the closest to reflecting me. And please, stop judging other people for overlooking their race's flaws. Especially when you devote so much effort on overlooking the Amarr's flaws. You want everyone to acknowledge their own faults but ignore yours. Obviously Amarr has flaws, but everyone else has brought them up plenty, I don't need to assist them. What isn't being brought up are the flaws of the other empires as well as the good side of Amarr and Caldari, so that's where I put a little more emphasis.
Simply want people to have a good understanding, as for who you support that is up to you. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.02 10:51:00 -
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TrueXer0z wrote: So all your meaningless gripes will be nothing more then lost concerns that hold little weight within the grand design which is Dust 514. While I understand what you're trying to get at, the problem that has been discovered here is far more than a meaningless gripe, it is game breaking as far as Dust FW goes. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2496
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Posted - 2013.10.02 11:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: 2. EVE based support however much better than regular OB support does not make enough difference to encourage players to go out of their way to aid the ground troops nor make a massive difference to ground Ops.
Hmm, perhaps if an EVE player is connected to the district you can gain some sort of bonus besides the OB. Perhaps something like the EVE player can be carrying an extra stock of clones or perhaps, given a certain number of warpoints, could trigger some long range remote armor repair/shield transport for the MCC? Make it so everyone wants to have EVE support. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.10 23:59:00 -
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Revived, this is clearly still an issue. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 00:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Revived, this is clearly still an issue. Yeah but it our issue now. Regardless of the system being broken we proved CCP wrong and did end up unbreaking the system Not trying to belittle the Amarr and Caldari efforts at all, they did a great job getting themselves out of this massive hole. But still, now we are going to benefit from this design flaw for how long before they change it? Even if its us benefiting, in the spirit of competition it just feels wrong. |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 01:23:00 -
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Well Bojo, really quickly
1) Amarr are the good guys 2) There is still a flaw in the design of Dust FW. Believe me, unless CCP fixes the FW system then Amarr and Caldari will hold this 99% majority long after this week ends. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 01:27:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote: "I do say Aero that battle for Penak IV was exhilarating, I couldn't prevent my Scrambler from overheating" "Indeed good chap" sips tea. "It appears that Devoid, is ... devoid of any action, am I right good sir?" "Quite so" "Indeed" puffs on pipe
Not that you guys talk like Victorian Nobility.
That is exactly how we talk. "Oh Aero I do say have you read that new novelisation of the Scriptures yet, it is ever such good reading my dear man." "Why no Adamance I have not yet, I was busy last weekend on the Estate with Lord Admiral Gavin, you see, such a fine man, making a right royal game of Wickets" "Oh sir I do protest to your weekend debaucheries with Lord Gavin, those iced teas and Gallentean post cards with corrupt your souls." I do concur, kind sir, this is very to the point how we talk.
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2731
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Posted - 2013.10.11 01:34:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Ok The main point was District Selection, did that register at all with you guys (in all seriousness)? Secondly, Angel Eyes was a bad guyThat was definitely a TT-3 Assault Pistol right there. I did edit my post quickly after posting to address that point of your post, not sure if you caught it. Should of waited to add that in before I posted. |
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