dispersion would be nice but it will not make a difference because of the sharpshooter skill

When I say dispersion I mean the falloff like the laser has.

Since its not shooting bullets and to give shotguns, HMG, SMG a decided area??

I.e. AR dispersion at less than 20m is so high for these plasma balls that they do reduced damage at ranges under 25 m and dispersion of these plasma balls is such that they do reduced damage at ranges above 65m .

Not really, as they will call BS (as usual) and demand a massive damage buff, or nerf to everything else.

Maybe the sweet spot is 25 bullets militia and 30 basic, 35 advanced and 40 proto.

Sounds more balanced and tiered than one magazine size for all basic, advanced and proto??


I prefer small changes to aid balancing instead of Mjolnirs nerf strikes.

Well I liked the original AR from Halo 1 and it felt balanced back then, but you could only reload it twice before you magged out but it was no instant killer like our Plasma Rifles are.

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30 bullets too few for 1500 damage??

Hmmmm.

10 % damage increase source: CCP Wolfman.

15% damage increase source AR proficiency L5

Three complex damage mods doing 10% each?

30% from three damage mods minus stacking for 26%
26% plus 15% proficiency 41% damage plus CCP Wolfmans damage of 10% gives me 51% damage increase.

So 30 bullets times 34 for 1020 damage times 1.5 for 1530 damage from 30 bullets.

The original AR in Halo had the same recoil exploit as the AR we have now...

34 damage? whoops, thought it was 33, my bad. Have to update my post then :)

Regardless, unless that's a proto gallente assault or a proto logi, that's a hell of a glass cannon you've built for yourself. You're gonna be armor tanked and a nice slow easy target even if you are. Not to mention the slow regen of armor means you're eventually gonna die just from being whittled down or be forced to sit out of the battle after every engagement for half a minute+.

Still anyone who didn't have proficiency V and 3 complex damage mods would still have a tough time with only 30 bullets. Not to mention the base SP investment to get the proto dopsuit, level V weaponry, level V AR proficiency, and both engineering and electronics to level V so you could actually fit it.

Also do you happen to have a link to wolfmans post on that hidden 10% buff? Not calling you a liar, just curious and want to see it. When did that come in?

30 bullets too few for 1500 damage??

Hmmmm.

10 % damage increase source: CCP Wolfman.

15% damage increase source AR proficiency L5

Three complex damage mods doing 10% each?

30% from three damage mods minus stacking for 26%
26% plus 15% proficiency 41% damage plus CCP Wolfmans damage of 10% gives me 51% damage increase.

So 30 bullets times 34 for 1020 damage times 1.5 for 1530 damage from 30 bullets.

Oh, that buff. I'm fairly certain that was already added in the 34 that it shows. I'll have to go look through some old blogs and posts on it to find out.

CCP Cmdr Wang]Posting the following info on upcoming changes to weapon damage and HMG balance on behalf of CCP Rement since he's knee deep in making these changes. He will also be answer questions and discussing this topic in this thread as well.

Tl;dr version:
GÇó In the next hot-fix weapons will all get a 10% damage increase to compensate for the removal of the Weaponry skill bonus.
GÇó HMG damage buffed to 18 HP (including aforementioned 10% increase) and given a 5% dispersion buff.
GÇó In the near future, we will address range issues by removing the hard stop that currently takes place at maximum weapon range.

In Chromosome, the Weaponry skill gave an across the board 2% damage bonus to handheld weapons per level. Given the low SP cost of the skill (and the fact that itGÇÖs a pre-req for every weapon in the game) the majority of players would just skill straight to level 5 making the skill pretty pointless. So, in Uprising we removed the skill bonus. The side effect of this, of course, is that time-to-kill has increased.

This, combined with some of the control issues weGÇÖve been seeing, has led to combat feeling worse than it did in Chromosome. We will address this with a hot-fix that gives an across the board 10% increase to all handheld weapon damage to put DPS back to where it was. Additionally, weGÇÖve increased HMG damage and reduced the dispersion penalty when moving by 5% to address issues with the weapon.

The removal of the Sharpshooter skill (which gave bonuses to range) has also highlighted some issues with range in general. Weapon classes need unique range profiles. I doubt anyone would dispute that. And the sharpshooter skill was pushing far too many weapons beyond their intended engagement ranges. While itGÇÖs removal has caused some issues, the SS skill was a crutch and it hid more deep-seated problems with range in the game. It will not be coming back.

Right now, all weapons have an optimal and maximum range. Unfortunately, at its max range the weapon simply stops doing damage. This is bad for a whole host of reasons and weGÇÖll be addressing this with a point release in the near future by giving all weapons an optimal, effective and absolute range. Up to the optimal range weapons will do 100% damage (shield/armor profiles notwithstanding) and then drop off slowly towards their effective range. From effective range out to the absolute range damage will drop noticeably but weapons will still do incidental damage even at extreme ranges.

The 10% buff was added when they removed the skill bonus on Weaponry, but I'm not sure if it was added to the weapon's ingame numbers or if the weapons have it added after the fact as if it were still a skill bonus.

Trust but verify.

Two newborn Dust bunnies.
One new born shoots at the other newborn red bunny Militia AR shoots at one with one finger tap for one bullet doing 37 damage.

Militia ar says 34??

But 34 plus 10% Wolfmans buff equals 3.3 plus militia ar saying 34 gives me 37??