Honestly, HMG heavies would be perfectly fine if the HMG just DID MORE EFFING DAMAGE. If I get outgunned by a damn assault with a duvolle in cqc, something is off. Even if TWO duvolles are firing at once. I should be able to solo two AR users in CQC with a Boundless easily. So actually, my two changes here are very simple: HMG damage increase, and small arms damage resistance to heavy suits (you know, like they are supposed to). Basic heavy, sentinel, and commando should resist 10-20%, adv you do 20-35%, and proto is 30-50%.
I think CCP should at least try this out and see how it goes. If everyone complains too much about OP heavies, then I was wrong, fair enough. I don't feel as though I am being wholly unreasonable. Just my two cents.

Slow-moving units have no place as shock troops. It's more common sense than just the opinion of CCP.

Someone said my name?

OP, I just described my personal playstyle with the heavy, obviously it's a naturally slower, more armoured dropsuit than the assault. Therefore one of its roles can be circling the point rather than head on assault.

I can envision so many battle tactics using them though that I don't think we have shoehorned the heavy into a single role.

I have seen 2 LLAVS with 3 heavies blast past footslogging old me, with me showing on the point 30 seconds after a brutal slaughter and heavies roaming the perimeter, similar to assault terminators from W40k. The commando is definitely a role that we want to expand on in that regard.

Similarly with dropships deployment, maybe even remote repping the heavies.

Then we have the missing racials, I play Gallente Assault and it's much different from Caldari. I can only presume that the heavy differences will be similar.

I mean really. CCP should remove heavy suits, scouts suits and logi suits. and let everyone be assault. Because honestly, you can do everything better with an assault.

It can be done. Just change the L slot into an H slot on the Assault Suits, fiddle with heavy weapons stats a bit, spreadsheet the Heavy DS SP back, and we're set. It would save game development resources and the seemingly impossible suit balance issues.

I can envision so many battle tactics using them though that I don't think we have shoehorned the heavy into a single role.

I have seen 2 LLAVS with 3 heavies blast past footslogging old me, with me showing on the point 30 seconds after a brutal slaughter and heavies roaming the perimeter, similar to assault terminators from W40k. The commando is definitely a role that we want to expand on in that regard.

Similarly with dropships deployment, maybe even remote repping the heavies.

Then we have the missing racials, I play Gallente Assault and it's much different from Caldari. I can only presume that the heavy differences will be similar.

Slow-moving units have no place as shock troops. It's more common sense than just the opinion of CCP.

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What you say i completely understand, and if you can make Terminator Heavies i may infact come to fanfest give you a hug and buy you a very large beverage of your choice.
Defensive play for a heavy is very strong, but its restrictive, and using LAV's all the time isnt practical.

The problem is apart from LAV'ing none of this has happened yet We dont have the racials, or dropships, or killer commando's.
We're stuck with our short range HMG on a slow moving brick, that can get out dps'd, out ranged, out maneuverer and out tanked by other suits. (all at once)

Confirm (hint?) to us that with the other racials your going to open up the field, and not pin us down to hiding around objectives Or at least get rid of this mentality that heavies are "meant" to be defensive.


(note: The dropships we have now, you cannot see out of as a passenger, flings you half a mile if its even slightly moving, remote repping will remove any resembalance to a tank it already doesnt have, and if it stays still gets pwned by a sneeze, not particularly practical for a rapid incursion)

So, what you're basically saying is "heavies should just HTFU and wait for all racial heavy dropsuits and weapons to come out"?

I mean, that would be fine if "The Event" is about to happen anytime soon. I'm probably just wild-guessing here, but judging from all the buzz on the forums (and datadump mining), next weapons to be released are in the light/sidearm category - as if they aren't overpopulated already (compared to heavy arsenal at least). This means that heavies probably won't be getting any love in the next few months.

You do realize that current game balance is already biased toward medium dropsuits? This is a problem. It eliminates options. Fewer options means less variety. Less variety means less fun. Less fun means fewer people playing the game. Surely, this isn't what CCP is aiming for.

I'm sure when you look at the numbers, heavies have dropped a substantial amount. I remember seeing 4-5 heavies in Chromosome every match. Now? I'll be lucky to see 1. Even me, a dedicated heavy for my team switched to assault because I'm more useful and versatile that way.

The class is so limited that it's not even worth using anymore.

Rather more heavies tbh...

Running heavies with LAVs is even more expensive now because now you have to buy a car to drive around in and then get instant killed by a forgun or swamrs or a packed AV nade.

and even if you dnt, people will see you vehicle a mile away and be well prepared.

but, the most important thing is this. If a suit NEEDS some peice of equipment in order to work properly its broken. Assaults don't need anything, logi's don't need anything to function properly. and they can vary as much as they like.