I am disappointed again to see the Tactical Assault rifle gimped.

It does less damage then a normal assault rifle, is harder to use with single fire, it will completely fail at close range to all other weapons and DOES NOT HAVE AN INCREASED RANGE over the normal Assualt Rifle!

This was the disappointing thing for me. It even says its a weaker weapon "mid damage" in the spec information over the normal assault rifle. So the only benefit is a scope, but your doing less damage over all and will fail in close range

The Tactical Assault Rifle needs to be buffed up. I would suggest a larger clip size again, now that the clip and damage has been nerfed - along with the hip fire accuracy.

Sucks - But if you want to use the Tactical Assault your gimping yourself. You would be better of with any other variant of the Assault Rifle!!

P.S If you enjoy and are good with the Tactical Assault - I would suggest the Burst Assault - You get a scope, more damage and better hip fire accuracy, still it is a slightly different style and takes some practice. Personally I switched to the Normal Assault rifle and use my snipe skills, it is similar target size and the Normal Assault rifle will get you a kill before a Tactical Assault and will work at close range. GOOD LUCK!

Weird my buddy uses it as a all purpose pwnstick and does regurly 25+ kills a game with it and prefers it above the Duvolle, we both tried the burst and dont agree with your statement.

Random numbers incoming... say it's 3.5 * 1.25 (prof) * 1.26 (guesstimated stacking penalized 3x dmg mods) = 5.5 ... If I put 10 rounds into a heavy that is a 55hp difference which could be the difference between "dead heavy" and "heavy that killed my ass while I reload". It's valuable in the same way Armor Upgrades V is valuable ... for those times you are left barely alive after a fight with 2hp and you can nod to yourself and say "yeah... gladd I got that ****" drop your gun, walk away, and smoke a blunt instead of bleeding out on the ground.

This entire ******* GAME is about incrimental advantages and diminishing returns. But diminished returns are nonetheless... returns.

[and for the record, it's the same 5% damage increase the Duvolle has over the Gek]

1.20 is what 3 dam mods would give...

Tac AR's are the weakest AR variant.

You think that with all the complaints of aimbots these would become popular again.

I played with them a little, it seems that the dispersion (even with SS V) is pretty bad. Or maybe the hit detection is not working properly with it. Should have a small review IMHO.

Incorrect - It does have an increased range over the standard assault rifle.

I have always been a normal full auto AR guy, but I "know" that for the most effective use I should be firing controlled bursts but I never seem to have the mental fortitude to do so.

I tried all the variants after Uprising but I never got them to work for me, probably a combination of lack of my skill/stats and hit detection.

So I began testing the burst, breach, tac and normal AR again after 1.4.

Breach is fun but not enough punch to be competitive. Maybe I shouldn't ADS on the breach, that's food for thought.

TAC is too much of a sniper for me, the only kills I get are low health runners, but then again, I'm not a sniper by nature.

Burst is probably my favorite, but something about it makes me always think, well I would have wasted that guy if I just had my duvolle full auto but now I'm dead and he is not. I love the feeling of a direct hit of a concentrated burst but I usually need 3-4 of those to take someone down, and that's just too much, 2 solid burst "should" be lethal. The Allotek with 3 complex dmg mods does hit like a bulldozer.

Also on most of these, I am just getting killed back by full autos, as we all seem to share the same range, or minimal differences.

I enjoy the different playstyles, but I never see the variants on the battlefield anymore

Maybe that's because the community at large has been speaking the truth all this time.

Full auto AR > Every other gun. There's not enough granularity to make using the other variants count.

Having said that, I'm with you. I use them all, and I wish we saw more variations in weapons being used out there :(.

It's hit and miss, we bumped up the TAC and a new FOTM was born, I know we will keep iterating. Competitive but not OP is what everyone wants, it should be about personal preferences and choice, and that's our goal.

It's hit and miss, we bumped up the TAC and a new FOTM was born, I know we will keep iterating. Competitive but not OP is what everyone wants, it should be about personal preferences and choice, and that's our goal.

You think that with all the complaints of aimbots these would become popular again.

I have always been a normal full auto AR guy, but I "know" that for the most effective use I should be firing controlled bursts but I never seem to have the mental fortitude to do so.

I tried all the variants after Uprising but I never got them to work for me, probably a combination of lack of my skill/stats and hit detection.

So I began testing the burst, breach, tac and normal AR again after 1.4.

Breach is fun but not enough punch to be competitive. Maybe I shouldn't ADS on the breach, that's food for thought.

TAC is too much of a sniper for me, the only kills I get are low health runners, but then again, I'm not a sniper by nature.

Burst is probably my favorite, but something about it makes me always think, well I would have wasted that guy if I just had my duvolle full auto but now I'm dead and he is not. I love the feeling of a direct hit of a concentrated burst but I usually need 3-4 of those to take someone down, and that's just too much, 2 solid burst "should" be lethal. The Allotek with 3 complex dmg mods does hit like a bulldozer.

Also on most of these, I am just getting killed back by full autos, as we all seem to share the same range, or minimal differences.

I enjoy the different playstyles, but I never see the variants on the battlefield anymore

That's one the the reasons the more knowledgeable people on this board (not me, that's certain) have been asking to be involved in the balancing process. Some of the balancing attempts before can be loosely summarized as "This item is too popular, we need to reduce it's effectivity by 50%! Balance is restored! ... Oh, why isn't anyone using it anymore? Well, then we're going to buff it by 90%!".

A comparison with the AR

TARs are 74.97 ->78.54 advanced to proto.
ARs are 35.7->37.4 advanced to proto.

So getting the proto TAR gets you 64.26 extra damage for the whole clip. And getting the proto AR gets you 102 extra damage for the whole clip.

Even if the TAR had kept it's 24 round magazine it would still only be 85.68 extra damage per clip. But the PG/CPU specs for the two proto rifles are the same.

This is on top of ARs being able to output 2244 dmg per clip while TARs can only output 1413.72 dmg per clip.

It's hit and miss, we bumped up the TAC and a new FOTM was born, I know we will keep iterating. Competitive but not OP is what everyone wants, it should be about personal preferences and choice, and that's our goal.

The TAR is supposed to be gimpy. If you want a Tactical Rifle, use the ACTUAL Tactical Rifle (Scrambler Rifle).

Lies and hyperbole.
I believe, in my humble and singularly poorly informed opinion, that CCP is listening to player feedback. Part of the problem may be that individual players posting on this forum espouse thier opinions as Fact and demand that thier recommendations be codified into the game immediately and unconditionally.

If not, they rage that CCP doesn't listen or consider thier feelings and they declare that CCP doesn't care about them or this game. Stuff like that.

It's been,what, less than 100 days since 514? 1.4 feels a LOT different than 1.0.

CCP has not buffed or nerfed anything by 90%... Probably ever. But, I expect that statements like this are ment to draw attention to how players FEEL...not how things are.

My wife exaggerates like that all the time...I get it. It's about how players feel...not about reality

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