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OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 480	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:55:00 - [1] - Quote ok im not the best English student but here goes bare with me. i am a minmatar scout and also use the advaced gallente scout and here are some things ive noticed; we need more slots for one, reason being is this: our cpu/pg is so low especially on the minmatar (lowest in game) we cannot do our jobs if we have a scanner, we cant use uplinks, if we cant do both then we cant sneak into enemy territory , scan and place a up link, we need a second equipment slot. the gallente needs another high and the minmatar another low slot , heres why: i have my profile dampening at level 4 and its been there since before the active scanner even came out, now i basically wasted a ton of points in the profile dampening because it will never work for a 2 low slot scout. profile of a scout with maxed profile dampening is 30 db, a complex profile dampening mod reduces your profile by 7.5 the advanced scanner is 28 db, which means you always need a profile dampener to be under. 2 complex profile dampeners reduce the db to 15, the proto scanner is 15 db which mean a mini scout will never get under it and a gallente scout needs to use 3 low slots to get under it. now this means that a mini scout wont be able to use the rest of its slots, you wont be able to fit 2 guns or a scanner or all your shields, the galente is now stuck with one slot to maybe use a pg or cpu mod to add guns, probably not a complex shield, and possibly no equipment or a greneade. now this means we are possibly the slowest suits in the game with nothing useful in our equipment , and our shields and weapons are a mix match of basic gear. lets say you forget the pd and want to speed tank, well if you want speed , and say drop up links and a gun on a mini proto scout, you will barely fit all shield slots, no grenade and your still running around with the health of a advanced suit and also have a fit with mix matched basic gear, maybe a proto nova knife but a militia smg, two complex shields, no equipment an maybe level one nades. there are many horrible mix matched suits as a scout and any suit that has decent guns or shields needs a cpu chip or a pg chip. not to mention the aim assist eats you alive as soon as your spotted and also the fact that our hit box or collision model has not been fixed and we die when the opposition isn't even shooting us. in combinations of all fits i have tried to make work there simply isnt any combination that isn't a catch 22 situation, that cant be beat by a proto assault running kinetics and being faster, or a logistics suit that runs profile dampeners and scanners, and may also have a hacking speed bonus , because i now need, pd in my low slots or a cpu chip in my low slot, and i am officially slower than most suits. our cpu / pg is way too low, our slot configuration is too weak and out dated to be of any use in this game with the multitude of game changes that have indirectly made our scout suits obsolete , not to mention all the weapon hit detection problems still occurring with nova knives and shot guns, plus our scan ranges even with skills are too close to other classes. our stock db, should be at least 40 our stock speed should be increase or even make our shield regen be 45 instead of 40 our cpu and pg need to be increased and both scouts need another equipment slot to actually be scouts, i mean what is the point of running to the other side of the map with uplinks and no scanner? a logi can do that with 4 equipment slots and a car, even though he should be reviving team members and that job should be ours. we need maybe a better hacking speed or a armor regen of +1 minmatar assault gets this bonus, so maybe the scout should have this bonus and maybe the gallente too or give them both some sort of quicker regen either shield or armor but they should both have a passive regeneration, other wise its back to the catch 22, need a armor rep, there goes your pd or speed or your equipment slot for a compact nano hive, now your a useless scout, damaged and far away from help, with no scanner or up links for a teammate to spawn in and help you....... see the catch 22 of this class? nova knives need a fitting optimization skill , the cpu and pg is as high as a prototype smg or sg give or take a few, i mean there knives how much room can they really take? even with core skills at 4 , explosives at 4 and weapon operations at 4 i need a cpu chip on almost every fit just to have complex shields knives and a gun and im still walking around with way under 400 total hp on almost either advanced or proto fits, and the proto fit only usefulness is 60 more shields and a tiny bit mor cpu/ pg for 50 000 isk mor than my advanced fit. For every full blown scout to even survive now we need skills in almost everything on the skill tree for ex the suit a main weapon a side arm core skill operation weapon skills optimization for weapons ( only we have alot of nk users that cant reduce the cpu / pg of this weapon) endurance biotics kinetics equipments, scanners, uplinks, explosives electronics dampeners range precision not to mention shields and armor upgrades plates or shield extention for a full time scout the sp sink is huge! my alt character that is being buit for the caldari scout when it comes out is a covenent suit, exil rifle, syndicate smg, enhanced shileds, costs 5000 isk and has under 2 million sp and doesnt need half of these skills to be successful in battle ccp it took me a while to plan this message please look into all the variables, and my SCOUT BROTHERS please sign this and help me get the ball rolling on fixing our class Thanks... OZ
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 935	Posted - 2013.09.05 05:58:00 - [2] - Quote Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1092	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:02:00 - [3] - Quote Signed
Shotty GoBang Intara Direct Action Caldari State 893	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:03:00 - [4] - Quote Signed. +1 (in particular) to dropsuit module and equipment additions and increased CPU/PG.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1046	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:03:00 - [5] - Quote I really didn't want us to sink to petition threads... Ehh wth why not Signed. I'm tanking my scouts now. Forget speed tanking! Edit: likes for all scout brothers!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 483	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:05:00 - [6] - Quote THANKS GUYS, i didnt want to do it but enough is enough and i actually hate typing but somebody needed too, please spread the word we need everybody on here
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 407	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:05:00 - [7] - Quote Signed +1
Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:12:00 - [8] - Quote I'm actually doing really well with The dragonfly suit Advance Scram P Toxin SMG Advance Active Scanner Advance Kincat or Damp That is literally my fit its a dirt cheap fit and I'm getting 15/5 to 10/6 ratios pending on the map both solo and in squads. The Crater map is terrible for scouts, but everything else is really working for me and how I play. I still acknowledge that the scout is still disadvantaged especially compared to the Gal Logi (the new scout supreme), but scouts are actually viable from my viewpoint now. Mind you there are more toys that I want for the scout, like cloaks, ewar, more sidearms, and the caldari scout, but the game play is definitely doable.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 45	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:16:00 - [9] - Quote Signed
Blind Nojoy G I A N T EoN. 44	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:19:00 - [10] - Quote Signed

OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 488	Posted - 2013.09.05 06:27:00 - [11] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I'm actually doing really well with The dragonfly suit Advance Scram P Toxin SMG Advance Active Scanner Advance Kincat or Damp That is literally my fit its a dirt cheap fit and I'm getting 15/5 to 10/6 ratios pending on the map both solo and in squads. The Crater map is terrible for scouts, but everything else is really working for me and how I play. I still acknowledge that the scout is still disadvantaged especially compared to the Gal Logi (the new scout supreme), but scouts are actually viable from my viewpoint now. Mind you there are more toys that I want for the scout, like cloaks, ewar, more sidearms, and the caldari scout, but the game play is definitely doable. If you spent the sp on a racial scout instead of being a tourist with a free fit I think your opinion would be different.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 129	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:15:00 - [12] - Quote signed
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 475	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:17:00 - [13] - Quote I am not a Scout nor do I play any Light frames, but I feel for you all. /signed
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 496	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:21:00 - [14] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: I am not a Scout nor do I play any Light frames, but I feel for you all. /signed Thanks brother we need it especially to run from faster an better rotating heavies, especially heavies with kbm
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 146	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:23:00 - [15] - Quote /Signed {with some QQ for my beloved scout}
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR The Kaos Legion 42	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:24:00 - [16] - Quote Signed.
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 36	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:27:00 - [17] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed. Signed
ChromeBreaker SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1111	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:42:00 - [18] - Quote Make scouts not apear on scanners... or at least not stay "scanned" for so long Signed tho
f-ANT-astic-1 Blauhelme Orion Empire 2	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:57:00 - [19] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I'm actually doing really well with The dragonfly suit Advance Scram P Toxin SMG Advance Active Scanner Advance Kincat or Damp That is literally my fit its a dirt cheap fit and I'm getting 15/5 to 10/6 ratios pending on the map both solo and in squads. The Crater map is terrible for scouts, but everything else is really working for me and how I play. I still acknowledge that the scout is still disadvantaged especially compared to the Gal Logi (the new scout supreme), but scouts are actually viable from my viewpoint now. Mind you there are more toys that I want for the scout, like cloaks, ewar, more sidearms, and the caldari scout, but the game play is definitely doable. If you spent the sp on a racial scout instead of being a tourist with a free fit I think your opinion would be different. +1 signed.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 973	Posted - 2013.09.05 11:59:00 - [20] - Quote I run with SMG and "uplink" and "scanner" on my recon in BF3. I think it's not too much to ask to be able to do same here. Signed.

AAGMUNDR Reliable Overwatch Inc. 27	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:02:00 - [21] - Quote As a scout that runs fits that run 70k each I agree wholeheartedly. Signed... Oh no, I got a paper cut while wearing my scout suit. I'm dead.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 500	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:02:00 - [22] - Quote ChromeBreaker wrote: Make scouts not apear on scanners... or at least not stay "scanned" for so long Signed tho In order to avoid the 28 db scanner scouts need at least a level 3 or 4 passive profile dampening, a proto suit an a dampened on the suit, the mini scout will not beat the 15 db scanner if I've done the math right it will land exactly at 15 which is also the scan, an the gallente scout might reach under 15 with 3 dampened with very little left over to fit anything. We should be able to get under 28 db without using mods or our slots should be re evaluated like mentioned above
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 248	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:02:00 - [23] - Quote +1 Signed. Right now the scout suit is in a hard place. Its really nice using them with profile dampeners and scanners as I have been finding out however the scout suit just isn't fast enough, lacks hit points and can't really compete with other suits. Especially as now the autoaim is helping everyone tear through us with suprising accuracy. Some balancing in the scouts favour would be appreciated. Especially a 2nd equipment slot and some added pg / cpu
Lycuo Seraphim Initiative.. 61	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:04:00 - [24] - Quote /signed Man does this build hurt >.>
DoubleTap420 ROGUE SPADES EoN. 62	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:21:00 - [25] - Quote My minja has been cradled up in a corner crying since Tuesday. Signed.
Ruthless Lee The Eliminators 57	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:23:00 - [26] - Quote Signed.
Blaze Ashra O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M. 36	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:34:00 - [27] - Quote I'm not a scout but you guys need love. Signed.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3997	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:37:00 - [28] - Quote /Maken Tosch seal of approval - signed
Mechoj Nomreps Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 100	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:40:00 - [29] - Quote Signed
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 884	Posted - 2013.09.05 12:41:00 - [30] - Quote Signed. Moar CPU/PG!

Oswald Rehnquist Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 181	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:12:00 - [31] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I'm actually doing really well with The dragonfly suit Advance Scram P Toxin SMG Advance Active Scanner Advance Kincat or Damp That is literally my fit its a dirt cheap fit and I'm getting 15/5 to 10/6 ratios pending on the map both solo and in squads. The Crater map is terrible for scouts, but everything else is really working for me and how I play. I still acknowledge that the scout is still disadvantaged especially compared to the Gal Logi (the new scout supreme), but scouts are actually viable from my viewpoint now. Mind you there are more toys that I want for the scout, like cloaks, ewar, more sidearms, and the caldari scout, but the game play is definitely doable. If you spent the sp on a racial scout instead of being a tourist with a free fit I think your opinion would be different. Tourist? I have played scout since the beginning and only scout on my toon, since I want the caldari scout I am not wasting it on the other two, instead I put them into point which would help my scout, if you miss allocated your points that is not on me. Also there is no way you are suggesting that a standard scout suit is actually better than the higher tiers. Its is not that scouts don't need love, I've made many threads on it, but scouts are indeed on better footing once you learn to adapt to the changes. Getting someones back now almost guarantees a kill, that was far from the case before hand. The scout is best at getting someones back and best of preventing others at finding his with the use of the active scanner and scan resists.
Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS 80	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:15:00 - [32] - Quote Signed
Sports Dude Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 239	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:16:00 - [33] - Quote Signed.
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 75	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:21:00 - [34] - Quote Signed. Equipment slot, bit more speed, better slot balance, bit more CPU/pg, fix our collision and hitbox please!!! Have to lead a running target... Signed
Mac Dac Wraith Shadow Guards 167	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:42:00 - [35] - Quote LOL ..... The scouts are a dieing race. They're strengths will only strengthen the logi. Join us or perish. Resistance is futile. Its a shame. i once had some fun with scouts. Oh well the logi will soon assimilate they're enjoyment as well. Muhahaha!
Crow Splat DUST University Ivy League 120	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:51:00 - [36] - Quote /signed An extra equipment, more speed, tuning aim assist a bit. All things that would help the scout a lot. Even though I think you may want to figure your math on dampeners. If they work as you say and each dampener reduces the same amount of profile then all you really need to be unscannable is complex damps and a suit with 4 lows. I believe the way it works is the first reduces you down to ~22.5. The second is based off that nnumber and takes you to ~18. And the third drops you to ~12. At least it should work that way or scout suits just got even more useless since anyone with 4 lows could stack 4 dampeners for 100% profile reduction.
lrian Locust DUST University Ivy League 70	Posted - 2013.09.05 13:54:00 - [37] - Quote Signed. OP, thanks for starting the petition and getting us organised!
Orenji Jiji Seraphim Auxiliaries 252	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:05:00 - [38] - Quote Ex-scout here. Signed with all my might.
Travi Zyg G I A N T EoN. 97	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:07:00 - [39] - Quote minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition.
Spec Ops Cipher Seraphim Initiative.. 504	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:21:00 - [40] - Quote Signed.

Grave Oblivion 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 4	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:26:00 - [41] - Quote signed
Toby Flenderson research lab The Superpowers 13	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:30:00 - [42] - Quote Signed.
Extraneus Tenebrarum THE BOSSES 37	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:32:00 - [43] - Quote Signed
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 522	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:38:00 - [44] - Quote Oswald Rehnquist wrote: OZAROW wrote: Oswald Rehnquist wrote: I'm actually doing really well with The dragonfly suit Advance Scram P Toxin SMG Advance Active Scanner Advance Kincat or Damp That is literally my fit its a dirt cheap fit and I'm getting 15/5 to 10/6 ratios pending on the map both solo and in squads. The Crater map is terrible for scouts, but everything else is really working for me and how I play. I still acknowledge that the scout is still disadvantaged especially compared to the Gal Logi (the new scout supreme), but scouts are actually viable from my viewpoint now. Mind you there are more toys that I want for the scout, like cloaks, ewar, more sidearms, and the caldari scout, but the game play is definitely doable. If you spent the sp on a racial scout instead of being a tourist with a free fit I think your opinion would be different. Tourist? I have played scout since the beginning and only scout on my toon, since I want the caldari scout I am not wasting it on the other two, instead I put them into point which would help my scout, if you miss allocated your points that is not on me. Also there is no way you are suggesting that a standard scout suit is actually better than the higher tiers. Its is not that scouts don't need love, I've made many threads on it, but scouts are indeed on better footing once you learn to adapt to the changes. Getting someones back now almost guarantees a kill, that was far from the case before hand. The scout is best at getting someones back and best of preventing others at finding his with the use of the active scanner and scan resists. I'm quite aware but if your not a scout now then there's a huge difference, CPU an pg is huge, I have 18 million in my scout an maybe 2 million spent on guns an suits I tried but didn't need but other than that it's spent correctly. I have the right gear but as mentioned in the op the scout is lacking slots an suit power, an that's not on us that's on ccp, with all the game changes scoutsneed to be brought up to par. I'm a good scout as many of us are, but the problem is so many of us are really good with poor suits n underpowered conditions I'm afraid that if they fix our weapons an buff our suits, those of us that are good now will be extremely scary later an will make the community freak out. We've been fighting a up Jill battle for so long, we're gonna be monsters if our stuff ever works correctly, because the community is used to us working poorly, I have no clue how they will react once they find out what we can do once we can actually fit complex gear on our suits.
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 39	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:40:00 - [45] - Quote It's a pity we have to be here but when my stuff is getting me killed because CCP is using there time to add things we never needed. And not fix and issue.that has more or less been here since the beginning of dust... It screws people up they need to add the beta scout again and reinforce them both. And while thee at it give is even better accuracy with aim assist, why not drop our scan level to a base of 40 as mentioned. And for gods sake optic CAMOUFLAGE... I don't want to be stuck as the dying race of lightweight suits. If your gonna buff every other suit in the game and add new ones you should fix the first suits... The Amarr heavy, the Caldari assault, the minmatar logistics and the Gallente scout... I don't understand you nerf the weapons and buff HP then you turn around and add aim assist making it pointless to attempt to aim, then you throw logis from every race in there which can tank as much HP as a baseline heavy?! I miss closed beta!!! Turn the game back to closed and retry CCP! There is potential in this game you just need to listen to us about it and well not keep your ideas of how this game would be so much better if... Make it better work on important stuff. So I say signed signed signed signed signed aaaaaallllllllllllllllll the way! Kudos to you for bringing up this problem and thinking about it
Beyond Creation The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 7	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:43:00 - [46] - Quote OZAROW wrote: 2 complex profile dampeners reduce the db to 15, the proto scanner is 15 db which mean a mini scout will never get under it now and a gallente scout needs to use 3 low slots to get under it. The proto scanner is actually 18 db
Beyond Creation The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 7	Posted - 2013.09.05 14:59:00 - [47] - Quote signed
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 522	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:03:00 - [48] - Quote Crow Splat wrote: /signed An extra equipment, more speed, tuning aim assist a bit. All things that would help the scout a lot. Even though I think you may want to figure your math on dampeners. If they work as you say and each dampener reduces the same amount of profile then all you really need to be unscannable is complex damps and a suit with 4 lows. I believe the way it works is the first reduces you down to ~22.5. The second is based off that nnumber and takes you to ~18. And the third drops you to ~12. At least it should work that way or scout suits just got even more useless since anyone with 4 lows could stack 4 dampeners for 100% profile reduction. As far as I know I've been doing it like this because I heard ccp does math weird do instead of adding all together it's one at a time. I'm a mini scout an was before the scanner even came out so to my knowledge if it works this way a mini can't beat the 15 db scanner, which I think it has to so correct me if I'm wrong because I really wanna know how this is done because if it really works how I think it does we need it fixed because scouts need to get under it. 45 stock x proto suit 25% = 11.25 = 33.75 db 33.75 suit x 10% level 5 pd passive bonus = 3.375 = 30.375 db 30.375 suit x 25 % complex pd = 7.59375 = 22.78125 db 22.78125 suit x 25 % complex pd = 5.6953125 = 17.0859375 db That leaves a mini scout that was silly enough to spend sp to level five thinking 2 complex was a good idea with a db of 17.0859375, then they made the active scanner so we can't get under it but a logistics can! This is bad! Hence we need a dev on this ASAP to clarify if the math is correct
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 522	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:06:00 - [49] - Quote Beyond Creation wrote: OZAROW wrote: 2 complex profile dampeners reduce the db to 15, the proto scanner is 15 db which mean a mini scout will never get under it now and a gallente scout needs to use 3 low slots to get under it. The proto scanner is actually 18 db The duv is 15, I believe it's the bottom scanner in the market unless I was reading it wrong but I'm almost positive it's 15 at least one of them is most of the rest are 28 I believe
Beyond Creation The Pyramid Order The Nova Foundry 7	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:38:00 - [50] - Quote Go in the market and look. Its 18 db. So if max dampening is 17 you can just get under it.

ZiwZih Seraphim Initiative.. 248	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:40:00 - [51] - Quote Signed.
Crow Splat DUST University Ivy League 124	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:41:00 - [52] - Quote Those look like the numbers I got too OZ. As it is right now the minmitar can't beat the best resolution scanner. You need Gallente for that. AFAIK the Gallente scout and Gallente Logi with max skills is the only way to become unscannable right now. I agree that the logi needs an adjustment for sure. I think that if you're going to give Minmitar scouts the ability to beat all scanners then you are going to have to give Gallente an extra high slot or something. Right now it's one of 2 things that we can do better than our Minmitar cousins and both of those are questionable when you account for what we give up.
Rich o United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 69	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:43:00 - [53] - Quote signed
Crow Splat DUST University Ivy League 124	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:43:00 - [54] - Quote Beyond Creation wrote: Go in the market and look. Its 18 db. So if max dampening is 17 you can just get under it. Duvolle Focused Active Scanner 15 db Im looking at it right now.
Pje251296 KILL ORDERS 123	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:49:00 - [55] - Quote Signed.
Sjem'Tolk Mercenaries On Duty 19	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:55:00 - [56] - Quote Signed!!! I do hope that the dev's do something, as I only want to be a scout, and it is too hard to be any good for the team, or squad, the way it is now.
Zendeal Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 22	Posted - 2013.09.05 15:55:00 - [57] - Quote I put in my vote. I would love to have my scout be more than paper in the wind. After 1.4 with the better hit detection I just get shredded in any sort of combat...not to mention how bad the shotgun still is. I know they fixed it from its broken state as a result of the patch... but autoaim does not benifit the SG and the improved hit detection for all weapons means I have almost 0 reaction time when im taking fire. I sorta gave up and dumped all my free SP into Min. Logi, Complex damage mods and AR's. It's pretty defeating when I love a broken playstyle and struggled through multiple patches with no improvements. After dumping my SP into something that everyone has constantly been complaining about (Assault Logis, ridiculous EHP from dual tanking and damage modded ARs) it dimishes my hope in the future of this game as this build just completely shreds anything in all combat situations leaving the impression that despite the wealth of customization options, there is really only 1 or 2 pathways that are viable if you want to be a valuable asset on the battlefield.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 531	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:00:00 - [58] - Quote Crow Splat wrote: Beyond Creation wrote: Go in the market and look. Its 18 db. So if max dampening is 17 you can just get under it. Duvolle Focused Active Scanner 15 db Im looking at it right now. Thank you I thought I was right, this means scouts need a fix ASAP , last thing we need is 600 HP ghost logis with shotguns
Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 3	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:04:00 - [59] - Quote Im not a scoct I dont play scout, but i agree with you (topic author). Scouts now are some kind weak, low pg/cpu ehp etc. And aim assist is totaly rip for most of them. Id like to see scout you want. Scout with scanner and uplink rest of things. And they should give some hack bonus in racial or smth like this.
ANGRY HEAVY Ill Omens 1	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:04:00 - [60] - Quote signed

Hunter Junko Zanzibar Concept 163	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:05:00 - [61] - Quote Dropship pilot here, but i feel for the scouts Signed
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 531	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:08:00 - [62] - Quote Crow Splat wrote: Those look like the numbers I got too OZ. As it is right now the minmitar can't beat the best resolution scanner. You need Gallente for that. AFAIK the Gallente scout and Gallente Logi with max skills is the only way to become unscannable right now. I agree that the logi needs an adjustment for sure. I think that if you're going to give Minmitar scouts the ability to beat all scanners then you are going to have to give Gallente an extra high slot or something. Right now it's one of 2 things that we can do better than our Minmitar cousins and both of those are questionable when you account for what we give up. Ya I mentioned all that in the first post because I have both suits , miniscout proto an gallente scout 1, they both need to be redone, two equipment, better base stats, high for gallente an a low for mini an increased core CPU pg an everything else in the main post, this needs to be fixed before they create the new scout races. I totally agree sir, an thanks for having my back on the scanner +10
Lightning Bolt2 Binary Mercs Abandon PlayGrounds 153	Posted - 2013.09.05 16:11:00 - [63] - Quote signed
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 906	Posted - 2013.09.05 17:01:00 - [64] - Quote My need for speed has been squabbled. My minja needs love. signed, scout brethren.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 133	Posted - 2013.09.05 17:05:00 - [65] - Quote More health and a reduction of skill points required to gain kenetic catalyzers. Signed.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 133	Posted - 2013.09.05 17:35:00 - [66] - Quote Up the leaderboards!
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 253	Posted - 2013.09.05 17:53:00 - [67] - Quote Scouts need some love and its time we get what we want said & out there for CCP to see & read hopefully by 1.5 CCP will have a plan for the Scout
Kadeim Third Rock From The Sun 32	Posted - 2013.09.05 18:48:00 - [68] - Quote Signed... ..but I would also like to add that the new maps stink for snipers; even the changes done to some of the old ground layout maps (the replaced buildings) have even made them sniper unfriendly - even sniper impossible. There is no way to get to rooftops, a place that Snipers hang out, nor are there any significant high ground points where you can crouch behind a peak or rock. Add to this, the timeout, if you sit in one place waiting to find someone (in range) to shoot, makes you have to shoot or move (take steps- because just zooming the scope and looking around doesn't stop the timer) which then makes it easier to be spotted. Personally, I would like it that if you are wearing a Scout suit, and your main weapon is a Sniper Rifle (maybe even a Nova Knife) the timer shouldn't take effect - as long as you aren't in the MCC, and you are using the scope to look around for the enemy.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1680	Posted - 2013.09.05 18:52:00 - [69] - Quote I agree that it is wrong that when maxed out, a minmatar scout can not avoid Proto Scanners even though basic scanners do not pick up basic scouts. I also figure it kind of wrong to require 3/5 of gallente scout's space to do so. The point to scouts is that we are good at stealth and thus do not require a whole lot of sacrifice to be stealthy but it seems proto scans put that over the top. However I don't think I can agree with module space expansions. If you look at the Heavy Frames+Light Frames vs. Medium, you will find that they are niche suits and excel in their field (duh). The cost is Mobility+Stealth/Health and module space for either Higher Mobility + Stealth or Higher Health + Heavy Weapon Handling. If we buff scout module spaces then the heavies become lacking and we'd probably start some flare war with Medium frames. I recommend taking what Scouts excel in further, making them faster and probably stealthier. Note: Difference Between Profile of Scout and Mediums is less than difference between Mediums and Heavies Note: Difference between speed of Min Light and Gal Light is greater than difference between Gal Light and Min Medium The answer: WSGBF! Widen Speed Gaps Between Frames ~ Widen Stealth Gaps Between Frames
Foxbat 072 Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2013.09.05 19:02:00 - [70] - Quote signed +1

1st Lieutenant Tiberius 0uter.Heaven 49	Posted - 2013.09.05 19:05:00 - [71] - Quote It doesn't matter how fast you are if bullets home in on your like heat seeking mini missiles of death, I am not a scout but I literally always play with my roommate who is a proto minja and its just absolutely ridiculous now (I know first hand as we often times trade and play each others' char). I think they should just make it so aim assist doesn't work on scouts, this might seem silly but I had no problem taking out scouts in 1.3 or any build before that, but when scouts are able to dictate the engagement my proto amarr assault is dead in 1 or 2 shots and I think thats awesome. We could tie it into the lore, of how scouts and their advanced dampening capabilities are able to nullify the aim assist capabilities of other suits that are targeting them that way scouts will still be killable but just harder to track as they bob and weave in and out of cover, serpentine-ing into a well placed shotgun blast to the jugular. I use the KB/M so I could care less about aim assist, but after playing my buddies scout I now understand why he rages at the TV and throws his controller around (considering that its my controller hes using) So for the sake of my ds3 as well as my buddie's sanity lets stop worrying about the goddamn medium suits because they are fine now. Scouts need some goddamn ******* love for god sake, it is time now to fix them so my amarr assault can have his shotgunning minmatar partner back (I know someone from PIE Inc is gonna come here and tell me how blasphemous this is) EDIT: Also fix the terrain, getting stuck on a slight incline or the raise of a sidewalk as we die from that last bullet that happened to curve over the wall and killing the scout is bogus. We have to consider the mobility of the terrain were fighting on when discussing the mobility fix for scouts
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 135	Posted - 2013.09.05 19:39:00 - [72] - Quote :D
Eskimorris SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 12	Posted - 2013.09.05 19:45:00 - [73] - Quote Signed
notoire 0uter.Heaven 1	Posted - 2013.09.05 19:52:00 - [74] - Quote signed it's hard out there for a scout where speed don't mean **** and we can't maneuver like we used to. That's my biggest problem, i can no longer evade fire. So what is the scout suit for? If it's not a lighter and more maneuverable than the rest? I thought that we had to make up for our lack of HP with speed and maneuverability, but the fact that I still get stuck on tiny little things and even on completely flat walls entirely negates any semblance of skill that I possess.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1393	Posted - 2013.09.05 20:38:00 - [75] - Quote Signed. I've been playing adv gal light/scout for months now and have my skills all in very good places but I still can't run 2 adv sidearms and fill all my slots in useful ways without having one of them taken up by a CPU module. This is just wrong and is not the case for any other non-light suit. The adv gal needs either one extra low slot or enough CPU to be able use all slots properly without a CPU mod. Then give the proto an extra hi slot because only 1 makes no sense and there's little point in me ever using a proto instead. Some extra speed would be good and a slightly lower base profile and higher base scan radius is pretty much a given to make us more scoutly. Another fantastic suggestion I heard somewhere was that aim assist should be affected by scan profile - i.e. if your scan profile is less than the enemy's scan precision, aim assist should be proportionately less effective.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 137	Posted - 2013.09.05 20:47:00 - [76] - Quote Ok now CCP i have been seeing alot of proto's with heavy armor and shields now i am a scout and i can't nova knife them if they have all these armor. Scouts are the only weakest class even weaker than MLT and alot of people were looking forward to the new map as a scout but as aim assist comes along everyone is tanking shield and armor and i barely see any scouts apart from me. One more thing CCP why is it so hard to get kenetic catalyzers? it takes about one million SP just to get an enchanced kenetic catalyzer i mean cmon CCP you can do better for scouts before you lose them forever. Maybe another equipment or just buff the natural scan and how can i live with these low CPU and PG when i'm using kenetic catalyzers i'm sick of this!!! Signed.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 26	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:25:00 - [77] - Quote Signed!!!
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 116	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:34:00 - [78] - Quote Signed.
Eno Raef KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 81	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:35:00 - [79] - Quote I'd like to see scouts be able to jump from much higher heights than other suits and not take nearly as much damage. Scouts do need some kind of buff. What if scouts never were shown on the HUD without a very very precise scanner, no matter if it were in the line of sight of a squad mate or not. It should be very difficult to catch a scout on the HUD. The scout will never be able to easily compete with the very high EHP of medium and heavy suits and so they should get big buffs to covert ops and biotic skills such as lower scan profile, much faster running speeds, faster climbing speeds, higher jumping. Stuff like that. They should be like little lizards, easy to kill but very hard to catch.
Keeriam Miray Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2013.09.05 21:56:00 - [80] - Quote Signed

KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 844	Posted - 2013.09.05 22:47:00 - [81] - Quote Signed and here is why: In one of my alts i wanted to do a Good SUPPORT Logi. I got all the way up to Proto, Minmatar Logi. Later on i realized, hey, i can do more than just Hack objectives REALLY fast and drop uplinks and give ammo. I can actually play as a pseudo scout. So with Kinetic Cats, Cardiac regulators,Profile dampener,some shield tanking and a Shotgun i could actually do EVERYTHING i could with the scout and more. Now my alt has an active scanner and ammo and a needle, has a VERY low profile scan (only active scanners can pick me up), i have 500 shields and around 150 armor, i have 5 HP repair just thanks to the logi bonus, i hack stuff faster than any scout , basically im a BETTER scout with only -0.8 speed. Thats all. SO signed, because scout should be able to be the best at what they do and as it is, lots of Medium frames can be modded to do their job better...
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 546	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:00:00 - [82] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Ok now CCP i have been seeing alot of proto's with heavy armor and shields now i am a scout and i can't nova knife them if they have all these armor. Scouts are the only weakest class even weaker than MLT and alot of people were looking forward to the new map as a scout but as aim assist comes along everyone is tanking shield and armor and i barely see any scouts apart from me. One more thing CCP why is it so hard to get kenetic catalyzers? it takes about one million SP just to get an enchanced kenetic catalyzer i mean cmon CCP you can do better for scouts before you lose them forever. Maybe another equipment or just buff the natural scan and how can i live with these low CPU and PG when i'm using kenetic catalyzers i'm sick of this!!! Signed. I ll be on tonight say 6/7 hours before downtime add me to contacts an send me a message an we ll go stabbing together I ll see if I can help explain a few things with your load out an maybe that will help, then I can help you figure out where you need your sp the most
Grief PK D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass 43	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:04:00 - [83] - Quote /signed
Krom Ganesh Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 233	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:06:00 - [84] - Quote Signed
ritslight umarn SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 91	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:07:00 - [85] - Quote signed im not even a scout but **** they need some sort of buff!!!!!
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 21	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:10:00 - [86] - Quote signed
Llast 326 An Arkhos 16	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:11:00 - [87] - Quote signed
Eric Del Carlo DIOS EX. Top Men. 1	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:12:00 - [88] - Quote Signed
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3727	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:53:00 - [89] - Quote I won't say I agree whole-heartedly with every proposal made here, but in general, I approve. +1 to OP and signed.
LeGoose SAM-MIK 21	Posted - 2013.09.05 23:58:00 - [90] - Quote Can I sign twice?

Brolaire of Asstoria Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 174	Posted - 2013.09.06 00:00:00 - [91] - Quote I'm not even a scout and I wholeheartedly support this... The Scout class needs some serious loving to be viable again otherwise what was the point in even having the suit in the game.. I hope you get your wish folks..
I-Shayz-I Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 801	Posted - 2013.09.06 00:35:00 - [92] - Quote Scouts just need invisibility modules or something. The second equipment slot for scouts is a MUST. Even if it is just at proto, the scout type-II has been missed for a very long time.
Quil Evrything DUST University Ivy League 45	Posted - 2013.09.06 00:44:00 - [93] - Quote OZAROW wrote: I have the right gear but as mentioned in the op the scout is lacking slots an suit power, an that's not on us that's on ccp, with all the game changes scoutsneed to be brought up to par. I find the lack of slots appropriate for a "lightweight high speed suit". But the lack of power is unacceptible, when many of the modules you'd want to run as a scout, require lots o power. For example... kinetic catalysers. Usualy, militia gear is power hungry, and higher grade stuff uses less. Or, worst case, there are two higher-grade options, one of which is a "lowpower" one. That ain't so for kincats. Thepower progression goes: 11, 10, 12, 15 That aint right. An "advanced" scout suit can barely fit 2 of those, and ONE weapon, and maaybe something else. Forget about two weapons and a grenade, or two weapons and something like an uplink. It shouldnt take a proto 70k ISK suit, to run 2x"basic" kincats alongside standard equipment.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 550	Posted - 2013.09.06 01:06:00 - [94] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: OZAROW wrote: I have the right gear but as mentioned in the op the scout is lacking slots an suit power, an that's not on us that's on ccp, with all the game changes scoutsneed to be brought up to par. I find the lack of slots appropriate for a "lightweight high speed suit". But the lack of power is unacceptible, when many of the modules you'd want to run as a scout, require lots o power. For example... kinetic catalysers. Usualy, militia gear is power hungry, and higher grade stuff uses less. Or, worst case, there are two higher-grade options, one of which is a "lowpower" one. That ain't so for kincats. Thepower progression goes: 11, 10, 12, 15 That aint right. An "advanced" scout suit can barely fit 2 of those, and ONE weapon, and maaybe something else. Forget about two weapons and a grenade, or two weapons and something like an uplink. It shouldnt take a proto 70k ISK suit, to run 2x"basic" kincats alongside standard equipment. Ya it's pretty brutal especially if you have your core up an weapon operations an ur running around with under 300 shield , proto knives an a militia smg an a computer chip just to maybe have a low level equipment in it. Whatever happened to the A B scouts with 6 slots an one had two equipment an one gun an the other had two guns an one equipment, at least then you could do your job an fit things on your suit. Having only 5 slots at proto when you have 4 at advanced for a extra 1.7million sp an all it really does is give you a computer chip slot to maybe fit every slot for 50 000 more isk a pop it's outrageous!
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 118	Posted - 2013.09.06 01:24:00 - [95] - Quote Signed. We don't need a deus ex machina (cloaking). Altering the base stats is enough to make us somewhat balanced.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 552	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:08:00 - [96] - Quote Well a proto logistics can basically skill so many things to proto an have complex shields, complex armor an reps, complex equipment an a complex gun with no chips added, an we are basically counter logis out there destroying everything an replacing it with our own, so we need dampeners since our db is only five under a logi or assault, we need uplinks an scanners to sneak behind enemy lines, our knives take a lot of CPU , speed mods **** our system output, if I used a proto shotgun on a proto fit an speed mods an shields , I can't fit a side arm, grenade or equipment, to even come close we have to proficiency 4 a sg then crank points into optimization, level 5 engendering an electronics an max both light an side arm opperation, an explosives to get a grenade on, plus you have to level 5 profile dampening just for the passive 10% then you gotta level 5 endurance to open kinetics then level 5 those, then you have to up your hacking speed so cru spawns don't get you, then you gotta open uplinks, an scanners and you can't even forget about doing shields an armor upgrades plus the extensions , all this just to die in 4 shots from a aim assisted automatic point an shoot! We put more points into our fits than anyone in this game for a form of survival that doesn't exist because we can't fit any top notch gear on our suits all at once, with lack of slots at proto level and the lack of pg CPU , the only reason to level five our suits is for the knive an profile reductions. For 50000 more isk an one slot it's not worth even running proto or investing in it. A mini ninja should keep the suit at 3 then proficiency 5 their knives it's cheaper than going 5 on the suit an 3 on the blades to get the 25% damage then max out your suit core skills an level up your blades . They never balanced the rewards for the sp sink, since all your gear after you invest over 20 million sp is still gonna be mismatched on your suit.
AfroBubblesX Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:13:00 - [97] - Quote Signed Have you ever noticed how devs NEVER respond to a Scout thread? They respond to tankers and QQers in general, but never to scouts - I think its because those of us who remain are so used to the punishment they know they can leave us on the backburner. I DEMAND at least one extra slot in the next release and further improvements down the road.
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 552	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:19:00 - [98] - Quote AfroBubblesX wrote: Signed Have you ever noticed how devs NEVER respond to a Scout thread? They respond to tankers and QQers in general, but never to scouts - I think its because those of us who remain are so used to the punishment they know they can leave us on the backburner. I DEMAND at least one extra slot in the next release and further improvements down the road. I hear ya brother totally ignored month after month, I think there scared to fix them because even though our suits suck were good with them periodically, because the people that are scouts aren't new, we've always been scouts do we find a way to adapt, there probably concerned because we didn't abandon scouts we just kept pumping points into them, so when they do fix them we are gonna be bloody dangerous an EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!
Pandora Mars Afterlife Overseers 285	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:23:00 - [99] - Quote Signed
loumanchew Ametat Security Amarr Empire 141	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:40:00 - [100] - Quote signed

BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 14	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:52:00 - [101] - Quote def new equipment slot signed signed signed signed signed
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4516	Posted - 2013.09.06 03:54:00 - [102] - Quote Signed
Lightning xVx Diamond-Dogs 160	Posted - 2013.09.06 04:25:00 - [103] - Quote Fix the Scouts CCP, I specced ALL of my SP into this suit and I get torn to bits in a matter of a few seconds. Your making this game unplayable for us. (Scouts)
Absoliav Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2013.09.06 06:43:00 - [104] - Quote Signed!
JieXi Bao DUST University Ivy League 20	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:20:00 - [105] - Quote Signed.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 307	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:30:00 - [106] - Quote +1 & signed.
Gods Architect SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 370	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:30:00 - [107] - Quote Can you let them fix the problems they have now, please
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 3	Posted - 2013.09.06 07:31:00 - [108] - Quote SIGNED. +2
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 263	Posted - 2013.09.06 08:55:00 - [109] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition. Were just letting CCP know its something we would like and look forwards too. Its not all bad for scouts, the stealth gameplay is actually amazing now! Its like playing metal gear solid with that active scanner whoo yea! However I dont need militia riflemen at 100+ meters looking at me and then I die... lol.
Jackal 006 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 2	Posted - 2013.09.06 10:42:00 - [110] - Quote signed. im a part-time scout and i feel bad for all the full-timers

Fusion Commander Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 15	Posted - 2013.09.06 10:48:00 - [111] - Quote Signed
Cosgar ParagonX 4792	Posted - 2013.09.06 10:49:00 - [112] - Quote Signed, and I'm not even a scout.
Yan Darn DUST University Ivy League 117	Posted - 2013.09.06 10:59:00 - [113] - Quote Eno Raef wrote: I'd like to see scouts be able to jump from much higher heights than other suits and not take nearly as much damage. Scouts do need some kind of buff. What if scouts never were shown on the HUD without a very very precise scanner, no matter if it were in the line of sight of a squad mate or not. It should be very difficult to catch a scout on the HUD. The scout will never be able to easily compete with the very high EHP of medium and heavy suits and so they should get big buffs to covert ops and biotic skills such as lower scan profile, much faster running speeds, faster climbing speeds, higher jumping. Stuff like that. They should be like little lizards, easy to kill but very hard to catch. This. Especially the movement stuff - I can't be only one who has jumped off something to run away from dying to bullets, only to realise in mid-air I don't have enough hp to survive the fall...
Argos Du'Gannon Kairos Co-Operative 12	Posted - 2013.09.06 11:24:00 - [114] - Quote signed
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. 596	Posted - 2013.09.06 11:59:00 - [115] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed. You must not have been on the forums much lately.... seems to have been a fresh one minted every 2 hours for the last 3 weeks. And more often than not, they are respec petitions.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1128	Posted - 2013.09.06 12:05:00 - [116] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition. It's confirmed that scouts will be getting no direct love until 1.6 by wolfman.
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 444	Posted - 2013.09.06 13:38:00 - [117] - Quote signed. Help us CCP. "The suit that CCP forgot."
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 444	Posted - 2013.09.06 13:44:00 - [118] - Quote Yan Darn wrote: Eno Raef wrote: I'd like to see scouts be able to jump from much higher heights than other suits and not take nearly as much damage. Scouts do need some kind of buff. What if scouts never were shown on the HUD without a very very precise scanner, no matter if it were in the line of sight of a squad mate or not. It should be very difficult to catch a scout on the HUD. The scout will never be able to easily compete with the very high EHP of medium and heavy suits and so they should get big buffs to covert ops and biotic skills such as lower scan profile, much faster running speeds, faster climbing speeds, higher jumping. Stuff like that. They should be like little lizards, easy to kill but very hard to catch. This. Especially the movement stuff - I can't be only one who has jumped off something to run away from dying to bullets, only to realise in mid-air I don't have enough hp to survive the fall... Excellent post Eno! We are the speedy, sneaky lizards! Well said. In mid-air I'm like "F***" One time a corp mate saw my empty shield and damaged armor and said "You got hit already?" I replied "no, I just fell." aaah, you gotta love the scout suit lol.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1398	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:02:00 - [119] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: First Prophet wrote: Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed. You must not have been on the forums much lately.... seems to have been a fresh one minted every 2 hours for the last 3 weeks. And more often than not, they are respec petitions. I think he was referring to this being the 1st scout petition. Until now we've been humble enough to just grumble on our own little corner of the forums - no longer!
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3807	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:10:00 - [120] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: Can you let them fix the problems they have now, please Really? So I can't go into the marketplace and buy a Scout suit right now? I'm pretty sure the the issues with Scouts are, in fact, current.

pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 232	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:17:00 - [121] - Quote +1 signed
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 144	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:23:00 - [122] - Quote want
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 232	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:35:00 - [123] - Quote CCP, can i please have the option to pay more for a scout with better genetics? Mine apparently has a heart condition and is addicted to unfiltered marlboros. Jump Jump Jump cough wheeze *die
negative49er The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 151	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:36:00 - [124] - Quote signed
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 439	Posted - 2013.09.06 19:40:00 - [125] - Quote lols petitions. scouts have been shat on for over a year. CCP does not care. Now we are signing a petition to get them to fix their broken mechanics. low point indeed. I will not sign this petition. It's humiliating to petition a game developer to fix things that are so obviously broken. Let CCP go on and continue making clowns of themselves.
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 40	Posted - 2013.09.06 21:11:00 - [126] - Quote If you want to help us CCP then make it the lower DB someone has the less magnetic aim assist is? How does that sound you scout raping bastards you?!
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 60	Posted - 2013.09.06 21:18:00 - [127] - Quote Signed
Brynjar Reko STRONG-ARMED BANDITS 13	Posted - 2013.09.07 00:23:00 - [128] - Quote +1
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 425	Posted - 2013.09.07 01:07:00 - [129] - Quote +1 Signed
SLENDER M4N Blood Pack Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 7	Posted - 2013.09.07 04:07:00 - [130] - Quote signed. SCOUTS 4 LIFE,SCOUT BROTERS UNITE!-«

Satori Particle Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2013.09.07 04:52:00 - [131] - Quote I agree with some of these things. +1
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 567	Posted - 2013.09.07 05:00:00 - [132] - Quote Good English. I think scouts should have the highest amount of CPU/PG in the game. They have a relatively low amount of modules so why not let them equip the best of the best? Scouts are meant to infiltrate. But they are also good at hitting hard and quick. They aren't good at surviving long period battles. So this shows more how they need to get out quick. Giving them the best of the best to do what they should.
westside noble Universal Militia Contractings 0	Posted - 2013.09.07 05:35:00 - [133] - Quote Signed
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 436	Posted - 2013.09.07 06:11:00 - [134] - Quote If 1.6 comes and goes without some decent Scout love, as previously mentioned by the developers, you can consider yourself as having a lost customer here. I have set myself a timelimit on how long I am willing to wait for quality Scout attentions.
T8R Raid BIG BAD W0LVES 22	Posted - 2013.09.07 08:14:00 - [135] - Quote When not in the air I'm scouting with a scanner, have been for over a month. *signed
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1398	Posted - 2013.09.07 09:38:00 - [136] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Good English. I think scouts should have the highest amount of CPU/PG in the game. They have a relatively low amount of modules so why not let them equip the best of the best? Scouts are meant to infiltrate. But they are also good at hitting hard and quick. They aren't good at surviving long period battles. So this shows more how they need to get out quick. Giving them the best of the best to do what they should. This ^ We should have loads of CPU/PG - it won't allow us to become speedy assaults because we don't have the slots or the base stats to pull that off. I mentioned it in another thread but I'll repeat it here: Light suits should be able to somewhat imitate medium suits if they use all their slots on damage and HP mods but they should absolutely excel if using scout specific mods (speed, stamina, stealth). Medium suits should be able to (and currently can) somewhat imitate light suits if they use all their slots on scouty mods but excel if using damage/HP mods instead. Kinda the same for heavies - they should be able to imitate mediums if they use their slots on speed mods (they kinda can atm). Mediums can imitate heavies if they use all their slots for HP (sacrificing damage mods for shields). The big problem atm is that no one can imitate logis but they can imitate everyone because they have ridiculous numbers of slots and huge CPU/PG.
Lucifalic Baked n Loaded 87	Posted - 2013.09.07 16:12:00 - [137] - Quote I say fix our hitbox more then anything. Running fast, aim assist only allows you to stay "ON TARGET". But if you shoot directly at someone running 9 m/s your gonna miss due to bullet travel time. Gotta lead a target people. Goes for all suits and based on distance from shooter and speed. Fix that and our paper armor will be compensated for by speed. If you then take me out due to proper leading and actually aiming i say nice shot mate but right now Our hitbox lags behind us and seems to grow as we move faster. Makes no sense. After that is fixed (for all suits) aim assist may not be as quite as easy and can be mildly adjusted then to find that sweet spot. Then balance the suits so we know what is needed. Pretty well known scouts pcu and pg is very low, second equipment slot would be great for sure and maybe an extra slot (low or high depending on race). Sure i would also like more speed and stamina delay killed But not til our hitbox is fixed. The tacnet change is amazing though, stay hidden boyos. And ccp thank you for making my sg work. Finally!!!!!
JudoDog Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2013.09.07 18:07:00 - [138] - Quote Signed
danny12343331 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 150	Posted - 2013.09.07 18:18:00 - [139] - Quote signed
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.09.07 18:18:00 - [140] - Quote Signed. Been scouting since closed beta, gave it up in 1.2 due to "fixed" hitbox getting bigger when running/jumping, shared team wide tacnet, and nerf/bugginess to breach shotgun range (and bugginess to all shotguns hit detection). If my choice of poison is going to miss 50% of the time or more, only makes sense to switch to something more survivable. CCP, you finally fixed my breach, now please give me back my scout! 2 equipment slots all the way! Signed, signed, signed.

Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.09.07 18:20:00 - [141] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Xender17 wrote: Good English. I think scouts should have the highest amount of CPU/PG in the game. They have a relatively low amount of modules so why not let them equip the best of the best? Scouts are meant to infiltrate. But they are also good at hitting hard and quick. They aren't good at surviving long period battles. So this shows more how they need to get out quick. Giving them the best of the best to do what they should. This ^ We should have loads of CPU/PG - it won't allow us to become speedy assaults because we don't have the slots or the base stats to pull that off. I mentioned it in another thread but I'll repeat it here: Light suits should be able to somewhat imitate medium suits if they use all their slots on damage and HP mods but they should absolutely excel if using scout specific mods (speed, stamina, stealth). Medium suits should be able to (and currently can) somewhat imitate light suits if they use all their slots on scouty mods but excel if using damage/HP mods instead. Kinda the same for heavies - they should be able to imitate mediums if they use their slots on speed mods (they kinda can atm). Mediums can imitate heavies if they use all their slots for HP (sacrificing damage mods for shields). The big problem atm is that no one can imitate logis but they can imitate everyone because they have ridiculous numbers of slots and huge CPU/PG. This ^ * 2
Eno Raef KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2013.09.07 20:05:00 - [142] - Quote I don't even run my proto scout at all. That build was an alt that that I don't play anymore. I feel I wasted SP in since scout has such a hard time surviving. It's too much ISK just to instantly die due to not having any clear advantage over medium suits.
ARF 1049 The Phoenix Federation 43	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:10:00 - [143] - Quote Eno Raef wrote: I don't even run my proto scout at all. That build was an alt that that I don't play anymore. I feel I wasted SP in since scout has such a hard time surviving. It's too much ISK just to instantly die due to not having any clear advantage over medium suits. That's damn right friend... >_> I miss beta... Accept beta had horrible nova knives >_> but scouts could run from fire and stuff and actually sneak up on people those days have passed why don't we just add a freakin officer suit that is like a caldari logi with more low slots and a sidearm... And make it only 750,000 ISK while your at it CCP... It's a shame my dream when I started this game was scout with nova knives >_> times change
Morathi III Red Star. EoN. 220	Posted - 2013.09.09 03:39:00 - [144] - Quote Signed Only for both proto scout STD and ADV are fine A little more CPU, 1 low slot for mini, 1 high slot for gal. Thats it, disagree with your extra equipment slot
ryo sayo mio Algintal Core Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.09.09 06:21:00 - [145] - Quote Signed. u had me at more low slots
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 589	Posted - 2013.09.09 07:31:00 - [146] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Signed Only for both proto scout STD and ADV are fine A little more CPU, 1 low slot for mini, 1 high slot for gal and your db changes. Thats it, disagree with your extra equipment slot Pc scout should have 2 slots only because the sp sink for a scout to do well is way more than any other suits sp sink, we should be able to lone wolf with a scanner an uplinks an not be forced to drop speed an shields for electronic mods
Pugnacious Turtle Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 21	Posted - 2013.09.15 06:22:00 - [147] - Quote +1 - Signed
Chilled Pill Pro Hic Immortalis 198	Posted - 2013.09.15 07:18:00 - [148] - Quote BAM! Signed!
Mirataf WARRIORS 1NC 67	Posted - 2013.09.16 11:21:00 - [149] - Quote /signed
broonfondle majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 252	Posted - 2013.09.16 11:33:00 - [150] - Quote I won't sign on the grounds that done right the scout suit still fulfils a role on the field, more so than ever with 1.4 and I enjoy it tremendously. It does take a seriously different mindset to use. That said I will sign in the hope of addressing a few problems still left - namely camouflage; both adaptive (i.e cloaking) or just simply letting us chose a suit that doesn't show up so much. like the old army saying: "Don't be a spud in a cornfield" Oh and the knives actually hitting consistently would be nice as well Actually I just came up with something else actually that I'll mention in the appropriate forum

Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 5	Posted - 2013.10.18 16:08:00 - [151] - Quote Signed.
Gunnut88 US Military Gamers 8	Posted - 2013.10.19 18:21:00 - [152] - Quote signed
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 422	Posted - 2013.10.19 18:37:00 - [153] - Quote signed
Jacques Cayton II Caldari Protectorate United 47	Posted - 2013.10.19 18:40:00 - [154] - Quote I'm a heavy and I know your pain of being neglected. I'm going to give you some hugs. Signed- 1+
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 236	Posted - 2013.10.19 18:50:00 - [155] - Quote Scouts HTFU! Run an assualt suit and quit being a coward, Metal Gear Solid is for that! If you arne't in an slayer fit getting kills or in a logi suit boosting my KD and making my e-peen erect then you are useless. Needs lower scan profile, a buff to EHP and more CPU/PG? More slots? XD GET GOOD Stop trying. CCP doesn't like you! Signed
Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2013.10.19 18:53:00 - [156] - Quote Signed
negative49er Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 270	Posted - 2013.10.20 00:33:00 - [157] - Quote signed
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1917	Posted - 2013.10.20 00:37:00 - [158] - Quote +1 and give me my Amarr scout XD
Dis Parate Murder INK The Umbra Combine 0	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:19:00 - [159] - Quote Signed Not a big fan of petitions, but scouts do need some attention
Amruk Jackal R 0 N 1 N 22	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:32:00 - [160] - Quote Didn't read it but Signed Lol

Sports Dude ShoGunnerz 248	Posted - 2013.10.20 01:46:00 - [161] - Quote Signed
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.10.20 04:08:00 - [162] - Quote Signed
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 155	Posted - 2013.10.20 04:26:00 - [163] - Quote The first fastest man in DUST signs!
Chesyre Armundsen Thanes Of Dust 14	Posted - 2013.12.01 08:56:00 - [164] - Quote Signed
hackerzilla Defenders of the Helghast Dream 552	Posted - 2013.12.01 08:59:00 - [165] - Quote signed Host of Zilla's Games! The best defense in not a good offense, it's a good defense.
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 226	Posted - 2013.12.01 10:16:00 - [166] - Quote I can understand the minmartar scout needing some updates, but the Gallente scout is in my opinion perfect. I am afraid it will end up being overpowered if it is getting more power, I prefer to play a class that is slightly underpowered and challenging hence why I choose the scout class. I have only been playing pub and FW matches, not PC. Got through winter carnage event running proto scout exclusively, having two proto weapons equipped and ended up with a kdr around 6-7 after the week. This is an amazing feat considering my average fps skills and my kdr is only 1.1 since I started playing Dust back in January. I have a proto gal logi on the same char and I am not able to get anywhere near the same amount of kills as with the scout. Only challenge will be when dampening modules become more commonly used and only and single highslot module need to be used for a precision enhancer module. The tracking and turn speeds are affected by your overall speed. My 900ehp logi often get killed by scouts or even starter dropsuits up close running around me as I am unable to track them with my aim assisted ds3 duvolle damaged modded logi. My scout on the other hand does exactly the same vs other suits that have more health than me and yet I win many of the close encounters with no damage mods added. Before you say I go easy mode having a proto logi with duvolle, I started with the plasma canon and have a rather large portion of skill points in this weapon. Had to finally accept the fact that in current build an AR was needed if I was ever going to field proto support equipment, survive and avoid loosing isk every match. Whatever changes are planned for the scout, please do not remove the current Gallente racial bonus and please do not make them too strong. I rely on my passive scanning, and scouts are currently the only players that I am not picking up reliable on my scanning, I do not wish to see more red scouts sneaking around
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 226	Posted - 2013.12.01 10:24:00 - [167] - Quote Xender17 wrote: Good English. I think scouts should have the highest amount of CPU/PG in the game. They have a relatively low amount of modules so why not let them equip the best of the best? Scouts are meant to infiltrate. But they are also good at hitting hard and quick. They aren't good at surviving long period battles. So this shows more how they need to get out quick. Giving them the best of the best to do what they should. I think the low CPU/PG on the scout suits reflects the huge amount on build in modules in the suit. We have lots of dampeners, range amplifiers, shield enhancers, speed, stamina etc build compared to a stock standard medium frame. Extra CPU would be nice, I have lots of spare PG. But why have PG and CPU modules in the game if everyone wish enough stock CPU/PG on every suit to avoid having to install a PG or CPU module?
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 226	Posted - 2013.12.01 10:27:00 - [168] - Quote Whops, I replied on an old thread, sorry. The scout has already received a buff with the added scan range since the initial post. I was speaking from experience from the current scout stats.
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 142	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:17:00 - [169] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: Whops, I replied on an old thread, sorry. The scout has already received a buff with the added scan range since the initial post. I was speaking from experience from the current scout stats. that "buff" wasnt enough, the suit itself if still crap. needs a base speed buff cpu/pg increase and another slot or scanners need to be nerfed its a bit ridiculous im unable to avoid the duvolle focused scanner no matter what.
Acturus Galaxy Happy Pumpkin 227	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:33:00 - [170] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: Whops, I replied on an old thread, sorry. The scout has already received a buff with the added scan range since the initial post. I was speaking from experience from the current scout stats. that "buff" wasnt enough, the suit itself if still crap. needs a base speed buff cpu/pg increase and another slot or scanners need to be nerfed its a bit ridiculous im unable to avoid the duvolle focused scanner no matter what. That is true, the duvolle focused scanner is rarely used in regular pub matches however it is not reasonable that a squad with this single item could complete negate one of the highest advantages the scout have. They will need to add a racial scout type that excels in low profile scannings or there would be no counter the dampened scout. I have no concerns having the scout updated to be able to avoid the focused duvolle scanner when there is another way of scanning the scout. The squad would then have to sacrifice a squad position for a low scanning scout to counter the dampened scout on the other team. Instead of as now they only need to sacrifice a equipment slot to counter the sneaky scout, rendering the scout almost useless against the proto squad for a very little cost.

PEW JACKSON s i n g u l a r i t y 105	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:38:00 - [171] - Quote Signed Like the OP said bring Base DB tp 40 It'd also be nice if we had precision to a base of 35
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 175	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:38:00 - [172] - Quote hmmmm yea its not ideal, there are other things that should be done......... that said this is probably the best sort term easy fix, I've seen. SIGNED!
Rogue Saint Science For Death 534	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:40:00 - [173] - Quote Have I signed this? Meh.... Signed. GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Bringing the dakka [The whiny Scout]
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 175	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:46:00 - [174] - Quote to clarify on what I think should be done instead. 1)none tank related items(ahy modules not affecting sheild/armor) should be reduced in pg/cpu usage by >50% 2)one more equipment slot and the pg/cpu needed to fill it (scouts will never be good logis) 3)one more low for mimatar one more low for gallent. actually the same damn thing that the OP asked for but instead of increased CPU/PG a reduction of fitting needs of items that are frankly predominantly scout items. This would also have the added benefit of those items being more useful all around.
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 392	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:49:00 - [175] - Quote Would be nice to have my "butter like" Mimitar Scout suit pimped up a bit so yeah.. I-¦ll sign this
Viktor Skirov Heag Enterprises D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 35	Posted - 2013.12.01 11:54:00 - [176] - Quote /Signed As a, practically new, scout Dropsuit user, I agree with a lot of things that you posted.
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 49	Posted - 2013.12.01 13:13:00 - [177] - Quote Signed. One little change I'd love to see is a reduction in fall damage/increase in fall distance before damage occurs. If you want me to take the long way around, they don't stop me jumping off buildings...
Sky Kage Immortal Guides 569	Posted - 2013.12.01 13:55:00 - [178] - Quote signed. I die alot AND have fun... Who knew? a¦á_a¦á
Mathew LaBorde The Generals General Tso's Alliance 30	Posted - 2013.12.01 14:23:00 - [179] - Quote Negative. Scouts are exactly as they should be. Point of a scout is to take only essentials I to battle.
Ty-shiek Fakiir R 0 N 1 N 3	Posted - 2013.12.01 14:29:00 - [180] - Quote Signed

Rogue Cheney The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1	Posted - 2013.12.01 14:39:00 - [181] - Quote Signed
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 741	Posted - 2013.12.01 15:03:00 - [182] - Quote signed "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Boll Spirit Iberica Racing Team 15	Posted - 2013.12.01 15:26:00 - [183] - Quote Signed So easy as we get our 2 slots equipment back for both races , some extra cpu / pg and one more low slot for the minmatar and a second high slot for the proto gallente and the scout communitty should be a bit happier. Running a minja and a gallente ( both proto ) from the first , and with the new hit detection the minja is so weak , now i prefer gallente for survival and give me more options to fit it. I-¦ve tried to copy the same fit as the gallente in the minmattar , and i-¦ts imposible , i need a cpu chip , where the gallente uses a enhanced cardiac ( so good for scouting ) , in the minja i have to use the chip cpu , i hate that . Please CCP rebuild Scouts , it -¦s a very funny suit that worth it , make us happy !!!
Tyjus Vacca Valor Coalition Proficiency V. 51	Posted - 2013.12.01 15:36:00 - [184] - Quote signed
Mdog 24158 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 40	Posted - 2013.12.01 15:44:00 - [185] - Quote Signed Flying derpships and scout shotgunning 24/7 quite fun i must say
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 160	Posted - 2013.12.01 16:04:00 - [186] - Quote Signed. The biggest threat to my scout is everything. My scout is the biggest threat to everything.
Kahn Zo Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 122	Posted - 2013.12.01 17:20:00 - [187] - Quote Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition. yup. that sure happened. yup. signed. Pure Gallente
Tek Hound Death In Xcess Corporation 148	Posted - 2013.12.01 17:27:00 - [188] - Quote Signed
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 696	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:17:00 - [189] - Quote I think I singed months ago. Singed again! Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
DEZKA DIABLO Commando Perkone Caldari State 96	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:28:00 - [190] - Quote Kahn Zo wrote: Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition. yup. that sure happened. yup. signed. Signed, yup lots of love, we got 6 meters everyone else got rifles with 100m range. Doesn't add up does it

Tectonic Fusion 645	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:36:00 - [191] - Quote Signed. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 15	Posted - 2013.12.01 18:36:00 - [192] - Quote Minja proto here. I still run complex kin and cardiac... So... Signed. An assassin's blade isn't seen nor heard, it is felt.
Yeeeuuuupppp Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2	Posted - 2013.12.01 19:55:00 - [193] - Quote I can run an adv minnie with 2 complex shields, adv shotgun, adv scrambler pistol, a kin cat or catayzer with and enhanced CPU mod. Not a fan of grenades but i like my scanner Signed +1
mollerz Minja Scouts 1075	Posted - 2013.12.01 19:57:00 - [194] - Quote X #ohhellyeasigned #shittycoding
4447 Resolution XIII 882	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:05:00 - [195] - Quote scouts should be sniping. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Vesperz D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 15	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:44:00 - [196] - Quote Mathew LaBorde wrote: Negative. Scouts are exactly as they should be. Point of a scout is to take only essentials I to battle. Boo this man! An assassin's blade isn't seen nor heard, it is felt.
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 192	Posted - 2013.12.01 20:46:00 - [197] - Quote Still. No. Blue. Tag.
Suanar Daranaus Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 71	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:36:00 - [198] - Quote Signed Signed Signed Signed Min Scout
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 15	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:48:00 - [199] - Quote signed I have a dog named Bob im so creative :)
Samantha Hunyz Clones Of The Damned Zero-Day 25	Posted - 2013.12.01 21:48:00 - [200] - Quote signed When I look down my scope, all I see are dead people.

Son-Of A-Gun 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 470	Posted - 2013.12.01 23:43:00 - [201] - Quote Singed. {:)}{3GÇó>
nor asha Turbo Bros inc. 40	Posted - 2013.12.01 23:56:00 - [202] - Quote Quote: we cannot do our jobs if we have a scanner, we cant use uplinks, if we cant do both then we cant sneak into enemy territory , scan and place a up link, we need a second equipment slot. We used to have a scout with 2 equipment slots...
Yeeeuuuupppp Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 12	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:30:00 - [203] - Quote nor asha wrote: Quote: we cannot do our jobs if we have a scanner, we cant use uplinks, if we cant do both then we cant sneak into enemy territory , scan and place a up link, we need a second equipment slot. We used to have a scout with 2 equipment slots... Back in the olden days. Carving Hearts in People's Backs, One Day At A Time ~ Nova Knives
mollerz Minja Scouts 1448	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:31:00 - [204] - Quote Good thread bump!
Sky Kage Immortal Guides 603	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:37:00 - [205] - Quote Signed. I die alot AND have fun... Who knew? a¦á_a¦á
Rogue Cheney The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 1	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:38:00 - [206] - Quote Signed
Kierkegaard Soren Scions of Athra 51	Posted - 2013.12.26 21:50:00 - [207] - Quote For the good of the game I want to be terrified of you tiny little bastards. /signed. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
Grave Oblivion 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 17	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:36:00 - [208] - Quote Signed We need more equipment and a passive regeneration the most
Spaceman-Rob Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 286	Posted - 2013.12.27 00:46:00 - [209] - Quote Signed
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix 1337	Posted - 2013.12.27 01:03:00 - [210] - Quote OZAROW wrote: ok im not the best English student but here goes bare with me. Well. I hate to sound like a bad person, but that is definitely true. Still. SIGNED. Minmatar Faction Warfare: Let's get Organized

rretri bution 21	Posted - 2013.12.27 03:18:00 - [211] - Quote signed
Heals Vaginas lcritMYpantS 74	Posted - 2013.12.27 04:07:00 - [212] - Quote They should stop aim assist being able to latch onto scouts. Too many dumbfuck trigger spam AR nuggets on this game to make scouts fun. though doing laps with a shotty and a scanner is fun
One Eyed King Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 99	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:09:00 - [213] - Quote Signed. For whatever good it will do. If the Scout Registry didn't help, I don't see how the petition will. Nova knifing scout masochist. I would be a sadist, but CCP won't let me.
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 1429	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:20:00 - [214] - Quote Signed: don't even have 1 point into light frames either. "The trick to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources..." Albert Einstein
Onesimus Tarsus 727	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:35:00 - [215] - Quote signed. Big red button that respecs your SP on demand. Protos only get points from killing protos.
CRYPT3C W0LF Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 102	Posted - 2013.12.27 05:57:00 - [216] - Quote Signed "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster" Friedrich Nietzsche-
Kierkegaard Soren Scions of Athra 54	Posted - 2013.12.27 11:10:00 - [217] - Quote Ninja bump. Dedicated Commando. So it's a good job KDR doesn't bother me, really.
Lorhak Gannarsein 903	Posted - 2013.12.27 12:32:00 - [218] - Quote /signed PRO tanker and proud. Lentarr Legionary.
Kodho R 0 N 1 N 30	Posted - 2013.12.27 13:02:00 - [219] - Quote Signed Long Live the Scout! Kodho
Geil Quandda Red Rock Outriders 0	Posted - 2013.12.27 13:29:00 - [220] - Quote As a Gal Scout who has to shield tank to stay stealthy I wholeheartedly support this proposal. /signed

Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 554	Posted - 2013.12.27 13:45:00 - [221] - Quote Signed, we need our extra slots back *Assassination is my thing.*
Mechoj Nomreps Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 145	Posted - 2013.12.27 14:01:00 - [222] - Quote signed
Leonid Tybalt DIOS EX. General Tso's Alliance 35	Posted - 2013.12.27 14:05:00 - [223] - Quote OZAROW wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: I am not a Scout nor do I play any Light frames, but I feel for you all. /signed Thanks brother we need it especially to run from faster an better rotating heavies, especially heavies with kbm As long as you intend to run that is. Some scout players seem to think that they should be able to kill heavies on their own, but that's not what the scout suit for. -.- Anyway, I'll sign your petition. The scout suits are awfully inflexible with their low amount of slots and low cpu/pg. /Signed
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 197	Posted - 2013.12.27 14:34:00 - [224] - Quote Signed.
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 869	Posted - 2013.12.27 15:25:00 - [225] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: As long as you intend to run that is. Some scout players seem to think that they should be able to kill heavies on their own, but that's not what the scout suit for. -.- Really....? And you would know what the scout suit is for, because....? Slow moving target with high electronic signature and low situational awareness, v.s. fast moving stealth infiltrator w/ lots of devious remote explosives or high alpha damage knives? Most of the scouts I know have downed plenty of heavies. Sometimes they can make the easiest targets, especially the "snipers...."
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 2644	Posted - 2013.12.27 15:32:00 - [226] - Quote /signed We finally deployed in the MinFW Match! \o/
Tectonic Fusion 863	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:07:00 - [227] - Quote Ludvig Enraga wrote: I think I singed months ago. Singed again! No singing allowed. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Smoky The Bear Free Rebelz 122	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:09:00 - [228] - Quote signed* Any proto suit should be able to withstand more than 1 bullet from any first day player..
Demon Buddah Corporate Disaster 113	Posted - 2013.12.27 19:10:00 - [229] - Quote Signed.


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