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Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
174
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:00:00 -
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I'm not even a scout and I wholeheartedly support this... The Scout class needs some serious loving to be viable again otherwise what was the point in even having the suit in the game.. I hope you get your wish folks.. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
801
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:35:00 -
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Scouts just need invisibility modules or something. The second equipment slot for scouts is a MUST. Even if it is just at proto, the scout type-II has been missed for a very long time. |
Quil Evrything
DUST University Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:44:00 -
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OZAROW wrote: I have the right gear but as mentioned in the op the scout is lacking slots an suit power, an that's not on us that's on ccp, with all the game changes scoutsneed to be brought up to par.
I find the lack of slots appropriate for a "lightweight high speed suit". But the lack of power is unacceptible, when many of the modules you'd want to run as a scout, require lots o power. For example... kinetic catalysers. Usualy, militia gear is power hungry, and higher grade stuff uses less. Or, worst case, there are two higher-grade options, one of which is a "lowpower" one.
That ain't so for kincats. Thepower progression goes:
11, 10, 12, 15
That aint right. An "advanced" scout suit can barely fit 2 of those, and ONE weapon, and maaybe something else. Forget about two weapons and a grenade, or two weapons and something like an uplink.
It shouldnt take a proto 70k ISK suit, to run 2x"basic" kincats alongside standard equipment.
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OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
550
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:06:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:OZAROW wrote: I have the right gear but as mentioned in the op the scout is lacking slots an suit power, an that's not on us that's on ccp, with all the game changes scoutsneed to be brought up to par.
I find the lack of slots appropriate for a "lightweight high speed suit". But the lack of power is unacceptible, when many of the modules you'd want to run as a scout, require lots o power. For example... kinetic catalysers. Usualy, militia gear is power hungry, and higher grade stuff uses less. Or, worst case, there are two higher-grade options, one of which is a "lowpower" one. That ain't so for kincats. Thepower progression goes: 11, 10, 12, 15 That aint right. An "advanced" scout suit can barely fit 2 of those, and ONE weapon, and maaybe something else. Forget about two weapons and a grenade, or two weapons and something like an uplink. It shouldnt take a proto 70k ISK suit, to run 2x"basic" kincats alongside standard equipment. Ya it's pretty brutal especially if you have your core up an weapon operations an ur running around with under 300 shield , proto knives an a militia smg an a computer chip just to maybe have a low level equipment in it.
Whatever happened to the A B scouts with 6 slots an one had two equipment an one gun an the other had two guns an one equipment, at least then you could do your job an fit things on your suit.
Having only 5 slots at proto when you have 4 at advanced for a extra 1.7million sp an all it really does is give you a computer chip slot to maybe fit every slot for 50 000 more isk a pop it's outrageous! |
Dominus Fatali
Nox Aeterna Security
118
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:24:00 -
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Signed. We don't need a deus ex machina (cloaking). Altering the base stats is enough to make us somewhat balanced. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
552
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:08:00 -
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Well a proto logistics can basically skill so many things to proto an have complex shields, complex armor an reps, complex equipment an a complex gun with no chips added, an we are basically counter logis out there destroying everything an replacing it with our own, so we need dampeners since our db is only five under a logi or assault, we need uplinks an scanners to sneak behind enemy lines, our knives take a lot of CPU , speed mods **** our system output, if I used a proto shotgun on a proto fit an speed mods an shields , I can't fit a side arm, grenade or equipment, to even come close we have to proficiency 4 a sg then crank points into optimization, level 5 engendering an electronics an max both light an side arm opperation, an explosives to get a grenade on, plus you have to level 5 profile dampening just for the passive 10% then you gotta level 5 endurance to open kinetics then level 5 those, then you have to up your hacking speed so cru spawns don't get you, then you gotta open uplinks, an scanners and you can't even forget about doing shields an armor upgrades plus the extensions , all this just to die in 4 shots from a aim assisted automatic point an shoot!
We put more points into our fits than anyone in this game for a form of survival that doesn't exist because we can't fit any top notch gear on our suits all at once, with lack of slots at proto level and the lack of pg CPU , the only reason to level five our suits is for the knive an profile reductions.
For 50000 more isk an one slot it's not worth even running proto or investing in it. A mini ninja should keep the suit at 3 then proficiency 5 their knives it's cheaper than going 5 on the suit an 3 on the blades to get the 25% damage then max out your suit core skills an level up your blades .
They never balanced the rewards for the sp sink, since all your gear after you invest over 20 million sp is still gonna be mismatched on your suit. |
AfroBubblesX
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:13:00 -
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Signed
Have you ever noticed how devs NEVER respond to a Scout thread? They respond to tankers and QQers in general, but never to scouts - I think its because those of us who remain are so used to the punishment they know they can leave us on the backburner. I DEMAND at least one extra slot in the next release and further improvements down the road. |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
552
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:19:00 -
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AfroBubblesX wrote:Signed
Have you ever noticed how devs NEVER respond to a Scout thread? They respond to tankers and QQers in general, but never to scouts - I think its because those of us who remain are so used to the punishment they know they can leave us on the backburner. I DEMAND at least one extra slot in the next release and further improvements down the road. I hear ya brother totally ignored month after month, I think there scared to fix them because even though our suits suck were good with them periodically, because the people that are scouts aren't new, we've always been scouts do we find a way to adapt, there probably concerned because we didn't abandon scouts we just kept pumping points into them, so when they do fix them we are gonna be bloody dangerous an EVERYBODY KNOWS IT! |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
285
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:23:00 -
[99] - Quote
Signed |
loumanchew
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
141
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:40:00 -
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signed |
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
14
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:52:00 -
[101] - Quote
def new equipment slot
signed signed signed signed signed
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XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4516
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:54:00 -
[102] - Quote
Signed |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
160
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Posted - 2013.09.06 04:25:00 -
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Fix the Scouts CCP, I specced ALL of my SP into this suit and I get torn to bits in a matter of a few seconds. Your making this game unplayable for us. (Scouts) |
Absoliav
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2013.09.06 06:43:00 -
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Signed! |
JieXi Bao
DUST University Ivy League
20
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:20:00 -
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Signed. |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
307
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:30:00 -
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+1 & signed. |
Gods Architect
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
370
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:30:00 -
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Can you let them fix the problems they have now, please |
Vesperz
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
3
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Posted - 2013.09.06 07:31:00 -
[108] - Quote
SIGNED. +2 |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
263
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Posted - 2013.09.06 08:55:00 -
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Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition.
Were just letting CCP know its something we would like and look forwards too.
Its not all bad for scouts, the stealth gameplay is actually amazing now!
Its like playing metal gear solid with that active scanner whoo yea! However I dont need militia riflemen at 100+ meters looking at me and then I die... lol. |
Jackal 006
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
2
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:42:00 -
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signed. im a part-time scout and i feel bad for all the full-timers |
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Fusion Commander
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:48:00 -
[111] - Quote
Signed |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4792
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:49:00 -
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Signed, and I'm not even a scout. |
Yan Darn
DUST University Ivy League
117
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Posted - 2013.09.06 10:59:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:I'd like to see scouts be able to jump from much higher heights than other suits and not take nearly as much damage. Scouts do need some kind of buff.
What if scouts never were shown on the HUD without a very very precise scanner, no matter if it were in the line of sight of a squad mate or not. It should be very difficult to catch a scout on the HUD.
The scout will never be able to easily compete with the very high EHP of medium and heavy suits and so they should get big buffs to covert ops and biotic skills such as lower scan profile, much faster running speeds, faster climbing speeds, higher jumping. Stuff like that. They should be like little lizards, easy to kill but very hard to catch.
This. Especially the movement stuff - I can't be only one who has jumped off something to run away from dying to bullets, only to realise in mid-air I don't have enough hp to survive the fall... |
Argos Du'Gannon
Kairos Co-Operative
12
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:24:00 -
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signed |
Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
596
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Posted - 2013.09.06 11:59:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed. You must not have been on the forums much lately.... seems to have been a fresh one minted every 2 hours for the last 3 weeks. And more often than not, they are respec petitions. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1128
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Posted - 2013.09.06 12:05:00 -
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Travi Zyg wrote: minnie scout reporting in here, i feel like most of you scout brothers are forgetting that they clearly stated that scouts are getting love in 1.5...be patient. theres honestly no need for this petition. It's confirmed that scouts will be getting no direct love until 1.6 by wolfman. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
444
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:38:00 -
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signed. Help us CCP. "The suit that CCP forgot." |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
444
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:44:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:Eno Raef wrote:I'd like to see scouts be able to jump from much higher heights than other suits and not take nearly as much damage. Scouts do need some kind of buff.
What if scouts never were shown on the HUD without a very very precise scanner, no matter if it were in the line of sight of a squad mate or not. It should be very difficult to catch a scout on the HUD.
The scout will never be able to easily compete with the very high EHP of medium and heavy suits and so they should get big buffs to covert ops and biotic skills such as lower scan profile, much faster running speeds, faster climbing speeds, higher jumping. Stuff like that. They should be like little lizards, easy to kill but very hard to catch. This. Especially the movement stuff - I can't be only one who has jumped off something to run away from dying to bullets, only to realise in mid-air I don't have enough hp to survive the fall... Excellent post Eno! We are the speedy, sneaky lizards! Well said. In mid-air I'm like "F***" One time a corp mate saw my empty shield and damaged armor and said "You got hit already?" I replied "no, I just fell." aaah, you gotta love the scout suit lol. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1398
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:02:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:First Prophet wrote:Oh hey. We finally reached that low point where we're making petitions. I'd be more critical if this wasn't so desperately needed. /F**kin' signed. You must not have been on the forums much lately.... seems to have been a fresh one minted every 2 hours for the last 3 weeks. And more often than not, they are respec petitions. I think he was referring to this being the 1st scout petition. Until now we've been humble enough to just grumble on our own little corner of the forums - no longer! |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3807
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Posted - 2013.09.06 19:10:00 -
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Gods Architect wrote:Can you let them fix the problems they have now, please Really? So I can't go into the marketplace and buy a Scout suit right now?
I'm pretty sure the the issues with Scouts are, in fact, current. |
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