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lrian Locust
DUST University Ivy League
54
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Posted - 2013.09.04 20:46:00 -
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I hated matchmaking yesterday, to the point that I almost gave up on Dust.
But today's been great! Even matches, little waiting time, full teams, no AFK'ers and I joined the match types I wanted to. 6x in a row.
I sincerely hope that the matchmaking will allow Dust to keep more new players interested and increase the player base. |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
18
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Posted - 2013.09.04 21:18:00 -
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First of all, I did not ask for a better matchmaking so I can say that I don't like this new matchmaking. I also want to join a battle ASAP. I don't like having to wait for a long time. To me, more than 90 seconds is a long time to wait.
In addition, the only way to get better is by playing against people that are better than you. That applies to everything in life! |
war Dialer
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
48
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Posted - 2013.09.04 22:30:00 -
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I'm not sure if you all are playing the same game. Currently matchmaking is STILL broken. Squads do not all get put into the same match, games are starting with clone reserves depleted, and we LOST content with this release.
CCP - Please revert changes. Accept that this deployment was not properly tested. |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
159
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:04:00 -
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Played some matches today, didn't have to wait longer than 20 seconds for a match to start. Teams were evenly matched it seemed. I had more fun in dust today than in a long time <3 |
Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru
26
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:23:00 -
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Tried the Matchmaking again today .... tossed first into an in progress game but it was at least the type of game I wanted. Next I got multiple Scotty messages, and then finally a match, ugh! not the kind I wanted. This process continued with me being put into the type match I prefer only about one in seven attempts. So I gave up public contracts and switched to FW.
For the record I really like the option to select the faction I will accept contracts from, good job!
Faction warfare matches went well, I am enjoying the new buildings and maps. Additionally my daughter who is fresh out of the rookie academy was able to deploy with our squad in FW but not in public contracts.
Second day was not quite so horrible as the first, however I would hate to think I am isolated to FW to consistently get the matches I want and a squad of my own choosing. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2362
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:33:00 -
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Temba Fusrodah wrote:Tried the Matchmaking again today .... tossed first into an in progress game but it was at least the type of game I wanted. Next I got multiple Scotty messages, and then finally a match, ugh! not the kind I wanted. This process continued with me being put into the type match I prefer only about one in seven attempts. So I gave up public contracts and switched to FW. For the record I really like the option to select the faction I will accept contracts from, good job! Faction warfare matches went well, I am enjoying the new buildings and maps. Additionally my daughter who is fresh out of the rookie academy was able to deploy with our squad in FW but not in public contracts. Second day was not quite so horrible as the first, however I would hate to think I am isolated to FW to consistently get the matches I want and a squad of my own choosing.
I will have a look into this, it should not be possible to be joining the incorrect game modes. Can you maybe try toggling all of your options off, close the options window, reopen the window and pick them again? See if that puts you in the right battle type.
Also when you were playing public contracts were you in a squad? If so, were you the squad leader or following a different squad leader into battle? |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2362
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Posted - 2013.09.04 23:36:00 -
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war Dialer wrote:I'm not sure if you all are playing the same game. Currently matchmaking is STILL broken. Squads do not all get put into the same match, games are starting with clone reserves depleted, and we LOST content with this release.
CCP - Please revert changes. Accept that this deployment was not properly tested.
We have people tracking down the issue with the whole squad not getting into battle, that's actually a separate problem from the matchmaking going haywire but we will get it fixed asap. We also have on our todo list to prevent you from joining battles which are about to finish, part of that work was completed this release but its not full hooked up yet so we will do that hopefully in the next.
Thanks for the feedback. |
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crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1664
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Posted - 2013.09.05 01:03:00 -
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also what happen to the big supply depot socket... it seems to be gone, you hyped us up so much for that map! It came out without bing added to aything but one map and now it's gone?
aljwheasudhap blargh I WANT TO FIGHT IN IT |
Rinzler XVII
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
66
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:23:00 -
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Nope still not working properly i tested out your new system on an alt with 521k sp with a kd/r of 0.5 (i purposefully made sure i didn;t have a high KD/R) and 1st game out of academy was v a full squad of ppl in proto gear ... 2nd game .. same .. 3rd game .. same .. i mean seriously what are the criteria you're using because it clearly doesn;t work |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
1885
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Posted - 2013.09.05 18:00:00 -
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I've been playing against a lot more groups today....so it seems much improved. The kicking out of queues is the only thing but aside from that, matchmaking is much, much better |
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George Moros
WarRavens League of Infamy
79
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Posted - 2013.09.05 21:48:00 -
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After my yesterday's post that was full of praise for the battle finder fix, I now have to start whining. I don't know what (if anything) you changed today with battle finder, but I got some very annoying crap to report.
The "searching for battle" phase now takes much longer than yesterday (on average). I had some fights where I waited longer than a minute to start the "waiting for deployment" phase. But the most annoying part is matchmaking itself. In one fight, It was 2 on one side and seven on the other (guess which side I was in), and it stayed that way for the entire match. The other fight, it was 7 of us against literally NOONE. Again, for the entire match! I mean, c'mon! |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2367
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Posted - 2013.09.06 00:53:00 -
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George Moros wrote:After my yesterday's post that was full of praise for the battle finder fix, I now have to start whining. I don't know what (if anything) you changed today with battle finder, but I got some very annoying crap to report.
The "searching for battle" phase now takes much longer than yesterday (on average). I had some fights where I waited longer than a minute to start the "waiting for deployment" phase. But the most annoying part is matchmaking itself. In one fight, It was 2 on one side and seven on the other (guess which side I was in), and it stayed that way for the entire match. The other fight, it was 7 of us against literally NOONE. Again, for the entire match! I mean, c'mon!
This is a side effect of the other bug we are tracking down which is people having trouble joining the battle and which then creates an imbalance. I'm hoping to have a fix deployed for this early next week.
Depending on your region, game mode selection and squad size though you should expect it could take anywhere up to 3 minutes to find a match. We're obviously trying to optimize this so that it is as quick as possible but sometimes you just have to wait because there is no one ready to play against at the time. |
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Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru
32
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:02:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Temba Fusrodah wrote:Tried the Matchmaking again today .... tossed first into an in progress game but it was at least the type of game I wanted. Next I got multiple Scotty messages, and then finally a match, ugh! not the kind I wanted. This process continued with me being put into the type match I prefer only about one in seven attempts. So I gave up public contracts and switched to FW. For the record I really like the option to select the faction I will accept contracts from, good job! Faction warfare matches went well, I am enjoying the new buildings and maps. Additionally my daughter who is fresh out of the rookie academy was able to deploy with our squad in FW but not in public contracts. Second day was not quite so horrible as the first, however I would hate to think I am isolated to FW to consistently get the matches I want and a squad of my own choosing. I will have a look into this, it should not be possible to be joining the incorrect game modes. Can you maybe try toggling all of your options off, close the options window, reopen the window and pick them again? See if that puts you in the right battle type. Also when you were playing public contracts were you in a squad? If so, were you the squad leader or following a different squad leader into battle? Day 3, I double checked my options when selecting public contracts, today I was not put into anything I did not request!!!!
The DEVs must have been programming their little fingers down to the bone. Did not get a chance to test if a team mate of lower skills would not deploy in public contract matches today, as no noobs were online with us.
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castba
Penguin's March
104
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:28:00 -
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Whilst I have not played today, the matches I was in yesterday were all reasonably close. Much more enjoyable.
Only issue is that Scotty has an issue when first selecting a FW battle, but I just select it again and we ate deploying within 10 seconds with 12-16 on each side for most games (Australian playing in Euro server-have not tried the US, Asia or oceanic servers yet)
Overall very happy with what has been done Nullabor. Thank you. |
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CCP Nullarbor
C C P C C P Alliance
2373
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:34:00 -
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castba wrote:Whilst I have not played today, the matches I was in yesterday were all reasonably close. Much more enjoyable.
Only issue is that Scotty has an issue when first selecting a FW battle, but I just select it again and we ate deploying within 10 seconds with 12-16 on each side for most games (Australian playing in Euro server-have not tried the US, Asia or oceanic servers yet)
Overall very happy with what has been done Nullabor. Thank you.
I submitted another fix specifically for Scotty message in faction warfare today. It will be deployed on Monday, hopefully that fixes up what you were seeing today. |
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Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru
32
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Posted - 2013.09.06 01:39:00 -
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I was placed in a match today where it was two against ten, and I was one of the two. We took a good pounding but held on until the MCC blew. They didn't really press their advantage until late realizing they could just overwhelm us with swarm launchers as we battled back their dropship,Hav, and Lav attacks.
In a strange way the challenge fighting on in the face of sure defeat was motivating. Needless to say I risked no expensive dropsuits in this match, lol. |
Raz Sidona
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
15
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Posted - 2013.09.06 03:03:00 -
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castba wrote:Whilst I have not played today, the matches I was in yesterday were all reasonably close. Much more enjoyable.
Only issue is that Scotty has an issue when first selecting a FW battle, but I just select it again and we ate deploying within 10 seconds with 12-16 on each side for most games (Australian playing in Euro server-have not tried the US, Asia or oceanic servers yet)
Overall very happy with what has been done Nullabor. Thank you.
Ive had the exact opposite experience with the matchmaking. I have yet to see even in youtube a balanced 1.4 match. Every single one i have seen or been in has one side pub stomping the other. Reading the patch notes I was excited for matchmaking cause i hoped pub stomping would stop but its only worse cause now every match is a pubstomp. |
SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
291
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Posted - 2013.09.06 05:50:00 -
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Raz Sidona wrote:Ive had the exact opposite experience with the matchmaking. I have yet to see even in youtube a balanced 1.4 match. Every single one i have seen or been in has one side pub stomping the other. Reading the patch notes I was excited for matchmaking cause i hoped pub stomping would stop but its only worse cause now every match is a pubstomp.
I had two ambushes last night where full squads plus hangers-on beat each other to a pulp.
Both matches ended with the winning team on <3 clones.
They were great games, btw. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
34
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Posted - 2013.09.06 06:54:00 -
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Raz Sidona wrote:castba wrote:Whilst I have not played today, the matches I was in yesterday were all reasonably close. Much more enjoyable.
Only issue is that Scotty has an issue when first selecting a FW battle, but I just select it again and we ate deploying within 10 seconds with 12-16 on each side for most games (Australian playing in Euro server-have not tried the US, Asia or oceanic servers yet)
Overall very happy with what has been done Nullabor. Thank you. Ive had the exact opposite experience with the matchmaking. I have yet to see even in youtube a balanced 1.4 match. Every single one i have seen or been in has one side pub stomping the other. Reading the patch notes I was excited for matchmaking cause i hoped pub stomping would stop but its only worse cause now every match is a pubstomp.
Could this be one of those things where if stuff works as expected, you don't feel the need to tell everyone?
Personally I played a bunch of games last night, and there were minor issues that didn't really detract too much, so massive improvements have been made :)
Thanks CCP |
L0s3
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
0
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Posted - 2013.09.06 13:13:00 -
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One of the most irritating factors of the new battle system is that it is directly conflicting with the skill point event that i was looking forward to participating in (as convoluted as it was). However, Since the 1.4 update I've only literally played 3 games after the many squad drops which means the Aurum bought augmentations that I've paid for... Are virtually useless. Gee thanks CCP. It's incredibly difficult to explain why this game is so great when things like this happen after myself, friends/coworkers spent hard earned money on something they aren't even able to use and enjoy. I'm sure hoping Nullabor can get a handle on this quickly as my Augmentation is soon running out and i see no real reason to waste money on a game i'm unable to play. |
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BLUE WAFFLE TASTY
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
3
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Posted - 2013.09.07 04:31:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I just wanted to say the matchmaking we have now is fubar. Went an entire match of dom with 4 people on one team and 2 on the other and another match with 16 people on one team and 6 on the other. Still getting matches with stacked squads on one side vs teams of randoms. Can't believe I'm typing this but I prefer the way it was before 1.4.
Edit. Oh, and this "voting" thing you got going on. Horrid idea, If I want to play domination, I WANT TO PLAY DOMINATION NOT AMBUSH; and if I want to play ambush, I WANT TO PLAY AMBUSH NOT GET PUT IN SKIRMISH.
Edit 2: Honestly CCP I know it's your game and most of us are playing it for free but it might be a good thing to run these brilliant idea by your player base before you implement them. It'll save you time and hassle. i totally agree...matchmaking previous to 1.4 was almost perfect..everyone got in, everyone had fun, and the tranfers between match and quarters were excellent. now i always end up with a second team chat, cant join the squad im the LEADER of in battle, dropping members, and the battles are so screwed i played 1vs 12 against STB......... PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK.........this update is so outta wack i dont even feel like logging in for all the free sp u could give me |
SUNNY THE NINJA
Immortal Retribution
13
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Posted - 2013.09.07 07:22:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:
Match you against similarly skilled players
Is this why I've been sucking a lot recently? |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
616
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Posted - 2013.09.07 16:15:00 -
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Fix the glitch where part of my squad won't make it into battle and I'll call 1.4 a total success. |
Croned
The Generals EoN.
376
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Posted - 2013.09.07 17:05:00 -
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Why CCP screwed up matchmaking: They were trying to compensate for a low player base.
What CCP needs to do to increase the player base: Finish the effing game!
People want an economy like EVE. The want to see PC more expansive and accessable like EVE. The want complete racial variants of weapons, maps, and dropsuits. As the game gets more and more repetitive, more and more people leave, and CPP starts cutting corners with things like matchmaking. |
Magnus Amadeuss
DUST University Ivy League
31
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Posted - 2013.09.08 18:08:00 -
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Sometimes when queing for a match Skotty flips out and kicks me from the search, but the team icon pops up and then from there on in nothing but problems.
I have even relogged and completely shut down the PS3 only to get back on to experience the same problems.
It has been getting progressively more frequent too.
Seems like I can cause it if I hit cancel immediately after I do a search for contracts. |
BLUE WAFFLE TASTY
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
4
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Posted - 2013.09.09 05:02:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Hi All- Just want to write down a few notes about what we changed in 1.4 in relation to joining a battle and explain some of the questions you might have. So in 1.4 alongside a new battle finder we have rewritten the matchmaking system, that is the logic that decides what battle you join and who you are playing with. There are a number of things that we are trying to optimize in this step, for example:
- Find you your preferred selection of game mode
- Reduce the network latency between you and the server
- Match you against similarly skilled players
- Reduce the waiting time it takes to find a battle
- Reduce the number of partially filled battles
- Reduce how often you join a battle already in progress
And now on with some questions: Why don't I get the game mode I selected?You can now choose multiple game modes however this will not always gaurentee you get one of those modes. The selection is used in 2 ways, we first build groups of players who have similar preferences of game mode, region and ranking. The second step is to use everyone's preferences to perform a vote on which mode to play. We will be tuning how effectively this works over the coming days so you should see some improvement in how often you get your selected modes.We have heard your feedback on this and have adjusted the matching so that game mode is a hard requirement. You can still pick multiple game modes and this will get you into battle quicker.The teams are not balanced / fullThis is a known issue, we are working on a fix right now.With some exceptions during low PCU times this should now be working much better. We will continue to work on this though, particular with balancing squads in battles.Matchmaking is taking too long? / Why do I get some message about a guy called Scotty?This is a big new system with a lot of parameters that need careful tweaking. We are aware of a couple of issues already and are working on fixing them in the coming days. We will also be carefully monitoring the health of the matchmaking queues including waiting times and how balanced the battles are, then adjusting settings accordingly. For now, if you get a Scotty message just click join again. I have a developer blog in the works covering a lot of these changes in more detail which we will post once things have stabilized and we have some time to produce pretty graphs and such. If you have any questions or feedback please reply to this thread. Thanks for your patience and I hope you enjoy the rest of Uprising 1.4.
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BLUE WAFFLE TASTY
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
4
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Posted - 2013.09.09 05:08:00 -
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ok, so ive created an alt, with the expectation that i will be placed in battle with players similarly skilled, to try your system. in my first game from academy, and the following two games, i have been placed with all proto players. also many others have tried this system and found it to be severely lacking. how can you expect anyine to stay on this game if matchmaking is so poor that i have to play guys with 10-20 million sp , and not compete at all. this matchmaking is a joke. will this system ever be fixed? im sure "newbs" would rather wait a few extra seconds than get smoked all the time. shoulda just left matchmaking alone, it was fine the way it was .....one of the few things that was good. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
175
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Posted - 2013.09.09 12:26:00 -
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I'd be fine with rolling over to the previous battlefinder system if it got rid of the Scotty/Team Chat bugs. The inability to get into a game and/or dropping players from a squad at nearly each deployment is a much bigger problem than the occasional proto stomp. |
Dante Vento
Firefly Shipping co.
37
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Posted - 2013.09.09 20:45:00 -
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How exactly does it "match" you with those of "similar" skill? What are the criteria? I ask as I've got a friend who, despite playing alone on a 700sp character, is constantly being put against proto-weapons on proto-suits. So I'm curious as to what they consider "similar" skill. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
730
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:51:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you did matchmaking by gear it would have been simpler tbh
Basic vs basic for example
Just my 2 pennies Why is this still a thing? What does it look at all of your 30 possible fits to see what you'd fight with? Or your most popular fit? Or what your skills would allow? Are you then forced to only use basic? And then basic/STD suits or weapons too? What if you are a vehicle user, but you have basic suits and ADV vehicles? Can you only take ADV vehicles in? Its not hard Nothing over meta level 3, anything on your fit over meta level 3 is invalid in the match for basic vs basic I said for example, so basics vs basic, adv vs adv, proto bs proto and basic/adv/proto is by meta level How is it so hard to understand?
Not everyone wears the same suits all the time. I have multiple tiers of fittings because even though I can afford to wear proto, I usually choose not to. |
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