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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3526
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:02:00 -
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Tell game to search for Domination: Game searches for Domination.
Tell game to search for Ambush: Game searches for Skirmish.
Tell game to search for Skirmish: Game searches for Ambush.
Tested and confirmed.
CCP, when do you plan to fix this? |
GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:07:00 -
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10 year time table, lol.  |
Yan Darn
DUST University
Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:15:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Wrong because you can take proto into a proto match
Plus PC is always proto vs proto
Wrong again, how is it so hard to understand?
I'm working on fitting a complex shield on my BPO scout - how would that work out?
Anyway - got another...122mins before I can play...but from reading the forums, it would seem i'm in for a real treat!
I really would like to hear someone explain
A) How not being able to select a game mode became a plausible idea (I suppose picking between all three modes we have can be a bit daunting sometimes...)
B) Were we intentionally not told or did this seem like such a minor change that it wasn't even considered?
I bought a merc pack to celebrate the armour changes...maybe this is just toxic forums being toxic and in two hours ill be pleasantly surprised? |
Drogan Reeth
Free Trade Corp
60
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:38:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you did matchmaking by gear it would have been simpler tbh
Basic vs basic for example
Just my 2 pennies
Are you dumb? How is the game gonna know what suit you will choose before you pick it?!
You going to make it so suits cant be changed when you die and when you go to a supply depot? Take away half the game cause you wanna implement some ******** match making? |
Guilbert 515
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:39:00 -
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So your saying, if i want to play a quick match of ambush because i dont have the time to play a full match of skirmish i eventually enter a match of skirmish to completely waste my time and rage quit the game...
Whats the point? |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:40:00 -
[66] - Quote
This isn't a toxic forum. We're being angry and analytical. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk
DARKSTAR ARMY
112
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:48:00 -
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im getting right into matches. about 20 seconds or so. USA west coast. Queing solo, all modes. The players seem balanced, yet to see a pubstomp ultra squad in about 10 matches. Im at 14mil SP, if that makes a difference. Things are looking good from my perspective.
Most games have had Unbalanced numbers, that does need to be addressed. might fix its self once more people have updated.
as well as being able to specify a game mode. I like the random draw if it means quick games. But you need to be able to select your own game mode.%100 of the time. Having that choice removed is a game breaker for a lot of play styles. Some simply just do not work in certain game modes.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1178
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:51:00 -
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I haven't played yet, but by the sounds of it, this new matchmaking system is KZ3 all over again.
I used to love spending upwards of 45 minuets to find a decent match in that game, and sticking players in a mode they didn't chose is the icing on the cake.
Just implement squad-free modes already. That is all that is needed anyway. Squads vs other squads, no squads vs no squads... simple, yet an extremely powerful and balanced solution. Squads vs no squads is the root of about 95% of the unbalance in this game. |
Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc
Drake Ashigaru
18
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:53:00 -
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OMG CCP you completely screwed the pooch on this one!
The new UI changes very attractive. In game graphic improvements also good.
Taking as long to get into a match (and not even the one I selected) as it takes to play the match horrible. Multiple "Scotty" messages.
Whoever had the idea to take "Choice" away from players should be terminated, epic fail!
CCP imagine the outrage if you pulled some BS like this in EVE. I go to my agent to get a distribution mission and instead get sent on a Null Sec security mission. You got to be kidding me!
I am not generally a mean spirited guy but some heads should roll for this. The game is limping along in it's infancy and then you totally upend gameplay in this fashion. Leadership of the Dust 514 DEVs should be hauled in and read the riot act! These changes make me a staunch supporter want to not log in anymore.
I only hope you QUICKLY reverse this BS! |
Inmate 309849
Cheesehead Inc.
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:54:00 -
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The Factional Contracts are messed up too. I have Minmatar and Gallente checked and 4 out of 5 Merc battles it has put me on Caldari or Amarr side. Please check into that also. |
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Annabandak Mercery
Knights Of Ender
17
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:58:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you did matchmaking by gear it would have been simpler tbh
Basic vs basic for example
Just my 2 pennies
wat makes ppl stop chaning gear in battle and start proto stomping again?
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GTA V FTW
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:03:00 -
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Quote:Why don't I get the game mode I selected?
You can now choose multiple game modes however this will not always gaurentee you get one of those modes. The selection is used in 2 ways, we first build groups of players who have similar preferences of game mode, region and ranking. The second step is to use everyone's preferences to perform a vote on which mode to play. We will be tuning how effectively this works over the coming days so you should see some improvement in how often you get your selected modes.
CCP this needs to be hot fixed during the next downtime, seriously WTF were you all thinking? |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
101
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:11:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Scotty used to be the docking manager for all stations in EVE. He has a new job in matchmaking but if he doesn't pull up his socks we might just fire him pretty soon.
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Pvt Numnutz
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:15:00 -
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Why is everyone saying you can't choose game mode? Just hit square...............
I love the new matchmaking screen. Scotty was a little slow, but when I got into the game and it showed me exactly where I'm fighting I started clapping. So cool to see where I'm fighting! |
war Dialer
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
37
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:17:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Maffia- Thug wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Orca Amsel wrote:Do you guys even test these things before you give it to us? Hard to test a big system like that unless they spend many engineer hours creating some sort of simulator. We'll just have to endure a few days of them tweaking the parameters while they dial it in. I'd rather provide live testing and tuning than waste engineering time that could be spent creating game content. Well said sir. Although, most gamers stand points, especially one's that knows nothing nor cares about coding, they just want it to work first time around. I understand their POV but I also understand the coders POV as well. You sir, have said all of this in one simple paragraph. KUDOS!! Quote:I don't always test, but when I do, I do it in production. Sometimes this is actually a legitimate process when dealing with big, complex systems and when able to adjust parameters on the fly. Sometimes. 
If only there was a job field for testing games....?
Also - NEVER a legitimate process. That's why DEVs have a sys-ops team to tell them NO.
CCP - When you deploy something and there is a problem, you should revert the changes. Please consider rolling back the revision until the issues are fixed.
* Please do not use us as free game testers. * |
Sam Booty
Rebel Raiders Inc.
7
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:20:00 -
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It seems clear that CCP didn't test this patch properly. So the best thing would be to revert to 1.3 while they thoroughly test 1.4 and give everybody 500.000 SP to compensate.
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Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
73
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:23:00 -
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You can always CANCEL as soon as soon as you see the (about-to-load) game mode if you don't wanna play it, provided it doesn't load you straight in without giving you a chance. I haven't encountered any issue with matchmaking since I noticed this. |
lrian Locust
DUST University
Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:29:00 -
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Just got annihilated: 3 noobs against a squad of 6 protobears. That wasn't a match, that was a massacre! |
war Dialer
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
42
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:33:00 -
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Flint Beastgood III wrote:You can always CANCEL as soon as soon as you see the (about-to-load) game mode if you don't wanna play it, provided it doesn't load you straight in without giving you a chance. I haven't encountered any issue with matchmaking since I noticed this.
You should not have to take action to prevent having a bad time in a game you play for fun. This is a bad feature that needs to be reconsidered.
Please consider the fact that we are spending our free time on this game. If it requires work to enjoy, we will most likely take our time elsewhere. |
Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc
Drake Ashigaru
19
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:44:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:Hi All- Just want to write down a few notes about what we changed in 1.4 in relation to joining a battle and explain some of the questions you might have. So in 1.4 alongside a new battle finder we have rewritten the matchmaking system, that is the logic that decides what battle you join and who you are playing with. There are a number of things that we are trying to optimize in this step, for example:
- Find you your preferred selection of game mode
- Reduce the network latency between you and the server
- Match you against similarly skilled players
- Reduce the waiting time it takes to find a battle
- Reduce the number of partially filled battles
- Reduce how often you join a battle already in progress
Allow me to score the results of your efforts "optimize" CCP Nullarbor
#1 Fail, you have taken away my selection and turned it into a ballot option.
#2 Below Average, now when finally you enter a game there is no time left to join or form a squad.
#3 Fail, now my attempts to train noobs will have them removed from my squad. This really sucks for corp game play.
#4 Fail, in fact Epic Fail "Scotty" messages are a poor substitute for game play.
#5 Fail, players leave battles they did not select almost immediately, all you have changed is the starting number.
#6 Incomplete, because of the huge time delay I've given up on playing today so I was not placed into any in progress games.
This is indeed a sad score for something that looks so great and could play so great.
In vernacular of American baseball, "A swing and a miss!" CCP keep your eyes on the ball before you strike out for all of us.
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star.
EoN.
956
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:46:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:The second step is to use everyone's preferences to perform a vote on which mode to play. We will be tuning how effectively this works over the coming days so you should see some improvement in how often you get your selected modes.
Are you ******* serious? |
Guilbert 515
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.09.03 20:50:00 -
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war Dialer wrote:Flint Beastgood III wrote:You can always CANCEL as soon as soon as you see the (about-to-load) game mode if you don't wanna play it, provided it doesn't load you straight in without giving you a chance. I haven't encountered any issue with matchmaking since I noticed this. You should not have to take action to prevent having a bad time in a game you play for fun. This is a bad feature that needs to be reconsidered. Please consider the fact that we are spending our free time on this game. If it requires work to enjoy, we will most likely take our time elsewhere.
Exactely, i just spend 4 hours for 20 minutes left to download 1.4 and thought of playing a couple of quick ambush matches to check out the new patch,
back to topic, finding out that i probably have to spend hours just to enter a match leave until i actually get into an ambush match makes me feel like going to bed right away, well my boss at work will be happy about the new changes in dust, and i just wasted a lot of time and feel pre frustrated about these kind of unannounced and unexpected changes in match making.
Hopefully by tomorrow this nightmare will be resetted. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:12:00 -
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Who really thought grouping people and then voting was a good idea? I mean really.
Group everyone that wans to play skirmish, then do matchmaking based on that. I guarantee it is faster and more accurate.
Oh and fire your game designer who thought of such a needlessly complex way to do this. I am pretty sure he just cost you way more than he is worth. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
501
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:23:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you did matchmaking by gear it would have been simpler tbh
Basic vs basic for example
Just my 2 pennies
lol, no. Too many variables (ie. I use STD Caldari with a proto Flaylock). Squads vs squads is the best option, if they reduce squads to 4 members like before, for 16 vs 16.
-XOXO |
Dimmu Borgir II
Consolidated Dust
59
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:14:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If you did matchmaking by gear it would have been simpler tbh
Basic vs basic for example
Just my 2 pennies
But i use a variety of suits in any one given match, how the hell would they balance it for the 19 different suits i have?? |
Kensa Marine
The Guardians 910
0
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:19:00 -
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Raiff Basdek wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:STABBEY wrote:Its broken I click on it and 5-10secs later it just puts me back on the battlefinder screen I just started getting this too. It took 4 tries before it lasted more than 5 seconds, and it got to 12 then stopped again. Hasn't broken 10 seconds again since. EDIT: RIght after posting that, I made it to 30 seconds before getting dropped back to the battle finder... only this time I'm supposedly in a team? Seriously? You need to relog. It just wont work now. Has happened to me twice so far.
BS! stop telling people to lkog out and log in!
That does not work. |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
316
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:20:00 -
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Should of made it based on KDR or squad avg KDR 2.00 and up, elites. 2.00 an below, noob room |
Vin Vicious
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Public Disorder.
316
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:21:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:
lol, no. Too many variables (ie. I use STD Caldari with a proto Flaylock). Squads vs squads is the best option, if they reduce squads to 4 members like before, for 16 vs 16.
-XOXO
Or this |
Absolute Idiom II
No Free Pass
605
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:24:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:Should of made it based on KDR or squad avg KDR 2.00 and up, elites. 2.00 an below, noob room
2 things:
1) The pair of words you are looking for are: "should have".
2) How is KDR relevant for support classes like logis or scouts who're not always focused on kills. My KDR is awful but as a logi idgaf |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion
The Umbra Combine
32
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Posted - 2013.09.03 22:35:00 -
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I barely played a game today. Kept trying to join, kept just "undoing" the join command. Faffing about, couple games I got into were a proto-stomp and an empty map with a few blue-berries.
I can't be arsed with this, for the first time ever the idea is in my head that I will walk away for a bit (read: months) and come back later, see if anything is worth doing. Trust me I am *not* going to do this, but thought is there. I still like this game....it's just broken right now. Really disappointing.
And this voting for game mode thing? No. Undo it. |
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