Hey, I resent that remark! Most of those don't end in stand offs!

I know, they eventually fire. My Brutor father and uncles taught me that, first hand in some instances.

You said you were Intaki....

While that is true, you misunderstand. My comment on imperialism is any empire that insists on expanding its reach by subjegating foreign lands. I was alluding to the actions of the Federation, though I have made it clear in the past that I do not approve of Amarr expansionalism. The Caldari have never looked favorably upon invaders. Spirits, even the Achurian joined the Caldari not out of an imperial mindset, but to instill protection against potental Federation occupation

The Amarr have got to be the least liked of the Empires. Both the Caldari and us the Gallante have a love triangle with the Minmatar. The Amarr are kind of out of the loop. Us Gallante tolerate them because we are afraid that if we go into full out conflict, the Caldari might take the chance to attack us at the same time. We could always get the Minmatar to attack the Amarrian, unfortunately we do not currently posses enough leverage for them to attack the Caldari.

Yep, classic Brutor stand off.

I do not deny my people are conquerors.

With that mind set it seems like you have forgotten that your Federation, being the corrupt and debased cowards you are, are simply using the Minmatar as weapons to keep us at bay. Your peoples blasphemies know no ends. You turn God's chosen children against one another, you seek so furtively to hold on to what your crumbling empire was that you oppress you people despite you assertions you are a free nation, your people suffer in unemployment and poverty, your children are addicted to drugs, your ship design is terrible, and you soldiers weak of mind and body.

I do not think that a society that enslaves people are in any position to criticize us on our domestic liberties.

Gentlemen,

It's a fact that the Intaki Liberation Front, the Intaki Prosperity Initiative, and its members have often been falsely accused of being "terrorists", "anarchists", "pirates", "Caldari pets", and so on. It's an old, overworn tactic used by Gallente loyalists who feel threatened by our movement to achieve independence for the Intaki sovereignty.

Now and then, such comments resurface from people duped into believing loyalist propaganda and hearsay. I suppose it's easier for some to make fallacious remarks instead of taking a few moments to actually investigate our corporation and alliance history for themselves.

That DeadlyAztec11 did not, and has not to date, presented any concrete evidence nor cited any sources supporting his claims, especially given information which directly contradicts his statements has been publicly available for years (see also here and here), is testament to this being little more than the usual alarmist stunt.

Having said this, two items DeadlyAztec11 brought up that are actually worth commenting on:

First. Of course we're a paramilitary organization. So is every other corporation and alliance in New Eden that has any sort of semi-organized combat division of some description, including the corporation DeadlyAztec11 belongs to. ILF and IPI have anti-pirate mandates. How else should we go about satisfying that mandate, unless he means we should just politely ask the criminals operating in the sovereignty to GTFO?

Second. As to our movement being funded "directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts", it's also funded directly and indirectly by Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar contracts, too. Whether our soldiers accept public contracts or faction contracts, the organizations that put them up in either category usually have some sort of empire affiliation. Did you also know that ILF spearheads trade hubs in Intaki and Agoze which capsuleer pirates as well as militia pilots from all empires regularly buy from and trade at? That ISK also supports our movement. The New Eden market is a free market and we have no way or desire to control who our customers are. If they don't want to support us they should really spend their money elsewhere. Likewise, as far as the faction contracts go, the four empires decided of their own free will to make them available to unenlisted corporations. If they aren't going to be discerning about where their ISK goes, why should our mercs not take them up on it? The Empyrean War has proven to be a stalemate anyway.

If you have a legitimate concern with our organization, DeadlyAztec11, please do bring it to light. Otherwise, I'd like to encourage you to reflect on where and in what manner you have been obtaining your so-called facts, and to pause and consider more thoroughly the veracity of what you think you know. Perhaps a trip to the Intaki Cultural Center on the homeworld would do you some good, if you can obtain leave from your commanding officer. The center was founded by Saxon Hawke, who also founded ILF and IPI, and is dedicated to upholding and teaching the traditions and culture of our people, and is often a nexus for ILF and IPI members.

Gentlemen,

It's a fact that the Intaki Liberation Front, the Intaki Prosperity Initiative, and its members have often been falsely accused of being "terrorists", "anarchists", "pirates", "Caldari pets", and so on. It's an old, overworn tactic used by Gallente loyalists who feel threatened by our movement to achieve independence for the Intaki sovereignty.

Now and then, such comments resurface from people duped into believing loyalist propaganda and hearsay. I suppose it's easier for some to make fallacious remarks instead of taking a few moments to actually investigate our corporation and alliance history for themselves.

That DeadlyAztec11 did not, and has not to date, presented any concrete evidence nor cited any sources supporting his claims, especially given information which directly contradicts his statements has been publicly available for years (see also here and here), is testament to this being little more than the usual alarmist stunt.

Having said this, two items DeadlyAztec11 brought up that are actually worth commenting on:

First. Of course we're a paramilitary organization. So is every other corporation and alliance in New Eden that has any sort of semi-organized combat division of some description, including the corporation DeadlyAztec11 belongs to. ILF and IPI have anti-pirate mandates. How else should we go about satisfying that mandate, unless he means we should just politely ask the criminals operating in the sovereignty to GTFO?

Second. As to our movement being funded "directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts", it's also funded directly and indirectly by Amarr, Gallente, and Minmatar contracts, too. Whether our soldiers accept public contracts or faction contracts, the organizations that put them up in either category usually have some sort of empire affiliation. Did you also know that ILF spearheads trade hubs in Intaki and Agoze which capsuleer pirates as well as militia pilots from all empires regularly buy from and trade at? That ISK also supports our movement. The New Eden market is a free market and we have no way or desire to control who our customers are. If they don't want to support us they should really spend their money elsewhere. Likewise, as far as the faction contracts go, the four empires decided of their own free will to make them available to unenlisted corporations. If they aren't going to be discerning about where their ISK goes, why should our mercs not take them up on it? The Empyrean War has proven to be a stalemate anyway.

If you have a legitimate concern with our organization, DeadlyAztec11, please do bring it to light. Otherwise, I'd like to encourage you to reflect on where and in what manner you have been obtaining your so-called facts, and to pause and consider more thoroughly the veracity of what you think you know. Perhaps a trip to the Intaki Cultural Center on the homeworld would do you some good, if you can obtain leave from your commanding officer. The center was founded by Saxon Hawke, who also founded ILF and IPI, and is dedicated to upholding and teaching the traditions and culture of our people, and is often a nexus for ILF and IPI members.

Unfortunately for you he is beyond rational conversation of thought for that matter.

I'm all about rationality, it's what I do. How'bout you?

You know, no matter how you add/subtract/divide the numbers, they always come out as 514. Anyways enough small talk.

You are not fooling anyone with your peaceful appearance.

Indeed, we're actually all secretly Jovesters planning to conquer all of New Eden with our enhanced clone soldier capsuleer tech. We have spies infiltrated into all the empires, and soon everyone from Jacus Roden, Samyl I, CEP and the Tribal Council will be under our control!

Soon, brothers.

Soon.

I'm all about rationality, it's what I do. How'bout you?

You realize that the Jove wiped out an entire Ammarian fleet without very many losses right?

Indeed. But if we consider the then level of technology and strength of militaries the Amarr gave the Jove a battle, a short one nonetheless, any other racial fleet would have been decimated within minutes.

Historically the Amarr had the strongest military of the time.

Largest, they had the largest. The Caldari would decimate you, the Federation would obliterate. Even the Minmatar are beating you in the skirmishes over border planets. To be honest, the Amarrian military is the slowest improving military in between the four empires.

This I doubt. However its not Matari military that is doing so well in border skirmishes, its the Empyreans that fight their wars.

So you are either saying the Minmatar have more backing from non Minmatar when compared to non Amarrian support of the Amarr Empire.

They have more wealth.

Or that they have better leadership.

You bet your sweet golden Amarren buns! The Minmatar are more popular with the Caldari and Gallante than loose female Caldari "entertainers" in a Black Eagle "meeting".

;)

I am starting to think of this thing, not sure what. It had something to do with logical fallacies, Amarr are good at naming those. Oh, yes! Ad Hominem. Reminds me a lot about you Aztec.

That said, it's best if you stopped replying to him Adamance, he is intentionally trying to bait you and flame you, it's best if you just block him permanently.

Perhaps I shall.

Do it.