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DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:11:00 -
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They do not have the backing of all of the Intaki people. Just extremist that wish to join the Caldari state for more lax trade. As an Intaki myself, I am appalled at their traitorous behavior. Their taking of arms against an entity that poses us no harm is completely against our traditional values of peace and diplomacy. Do not trust them. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1512
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:18:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They do not have the backing of all of the Intaki people. Just extremist that wish to join the Caldari state for more lax trade. As an Intaki myself, I am appalled at their traitorous behavior. Their taking of arms against an entity that poses us no harm is completely against our traditional values of peace and diplomacy. Do not trust them. A Faction that openly affirms Intaki liberty and freedom is labelled a terrorist organisation by the Federation or agents of the Federation.... and you wish to impose conformity upon them even though such is not their will.....
How much more can you represent the worst that is the Gallentean Federation? |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They do not have the backing of all of the Intaki people. Just extremist that wish to join the Caldari state for more lax trade. As an Intaki myself, I am appalled at their traitorous behavior. Their taking of arms against an entity that poses us no harm is completely against our traditional values of peace and diplomacy. Do not trust them. A Faction that openly affirms Intaki liberty and freedom is labelled a terrorist organisation by the Federation or agents of the Federation.... and you wish to impose conformity upon them even though such is not their will..... How much more can you represent the worst that is the Gallentean Federation? Freedom? Liberty?
If they wanted to found an independent state, I would understand. If they wished to join the Minmatar Republic, I would understand. But the Caldari? Freedom and Liberty are not synonymous with that... Society, if that is what you want to call it. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1512
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:47:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:They do not have the backing of all of the Intaki people. Just extremist that wish to join the Caldari state for more lax trade. As an Intaki myself, I am appalled at their traitorous behavior. Their taking of arms against an entity that poses us no harm is completely against our traditional values of peace and diplomacy. Do not trust them. A Faction that openly affirms Intaki liberty and freedom is labelled a terrorist organisation by the Federation or agents of the Federation.... and you wish to impose conformity upon them even though such is not their will..... How much more can you represent the worst that is the Gallentean Federation? Freedom? Liberty? If they wanted to found an independent state, I would understand. If they wished to join the Minmatar Republic, I would understand. But the Caldari? Freedom and Liberty are not synonymous with that... Society, if that is what you want to call it. The Intaki Liberation Front do not want to join the State, for sure there are Caldari sympathists amongst them because of the similar treatment of Caldari and Intaki peoples under the Federations edicts, but they would not wish to subject themselves to another Empires equally firm rule.
The Intaki want what the federation promised them, equality and protection, though perhaps the Intaki can deal with that themselves. |
Yun Hee Ryeon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
225
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Posted - 2013.09.03 05:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Freedom? Liberty?
If they wanted to found an independent state, I would understand. If they wished to join the Minmatar Republic, I would understand. But the Caldari? Freedom and Liberty are not synonymous with that... Society, if that is what you want to call it. Soldier, the Intaki Liberation Front is "pro" precisely one group, and that, as far as I can tell, is the Intaki. They might arguably be associated with the Intaki Syndicate, on politics if nothing else, but that's really their choice whether they associate themselves with the Syndicate or not-- and, from what I gather from Mr. Kalamari, they presently don't.
As for the Caldari, they're neutral to what most of us on the State's side of the fence would describe as a fault. I can't even drag Mr. Kalamari along into the Caldari side of a battle as a mercenary; it would violate his corporation's neutrality.
We literally can't pay him to get involved in the war. Some Caldari-aligned "terrorist" he makes. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
411
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:03:00 -
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I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You claim us to be terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1514
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:07:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You claim us to be terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I respect those who respect themselves. unlike the Ethnic Gallenteans your people show signs of spiritual awareness, this is progress. I may not agree with your religion but I respect your people and the Intaki have done me no wrong. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:29:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine.
Just a little back story.
The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You claim us to be terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I respect those who respect themselves. unlike the Ethnic Gallenteans your people show signs of spiritual awareness, this is progress. I may not agree with your religion but I respect your people and the Intaki have done me no wrong. We Intaki do not technically have a religion. Just a set of codes we live by and act by. Ida is a lifestyle not a religion. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1514
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:35:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine. Just a little back story. The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. You bastardise a bastardised form of the Faith? You are crossing a line here sir.
Now you speak of the Faith, do not transgress further and claim you know the true Faith, for God chose us to bring His true words to the furthest stars of every galaxy. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1514
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:36:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You claim us to be terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I respect those who respect themselves. unlike the Ethnic Gallenteans your people show signs of spiritual awareness, this is progress. I may not agree with your religion but I respect your people and the Intaki have done me no wrong. We Intaki do not technically have a religion. Just a set of codes we live by and act by. Ida is a lifestyle not a religion. In some sense this is what we Amarr have to live by. I would not personally consider the Faith to be a religion.... its is more or less the correct way to live. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
411
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Posted - 2013.09.03 06:38:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine.
Just a little back story.
The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow.
And this fixes things how? You have not explained what the ILF has done to deserve to be called a terrorist organization, you have not explained how you have any influence over the Black Eagles or the Federation at all. You did not even apologize for calling me and my corporation terrorists because of your false beliefs. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:28:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote: I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine.
Just a little back story.
The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow.
And this fixes things how? You have not explained what the ILF has done to deserve to be called a terrorist organization, you have not explained how you have any influence over the Black Eagles or the Federation at all. You did not even apologize for calling me and my corporation terrorists because of your false beliefs. Do not lie to me Denak. We know that your front is a paramilitary organization that wishes to engage Federal forces in open or shadow violent conflict. We know that you are funded either directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts.
I don't have control over the Black Eagles nor the Federation. I am just a pawn. We all are. Just a matter of who we're going to take down with us. |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2109
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:30:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine. Just a little back story. The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. You bastardise a bastardised form of the Faith? You are crossing a line here sir. Now you speak of the Faith, do not transgress further and claim you know the true Faith, for God chose us to bring His true words to the furthest stars of every galaxy. Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog!
By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1518
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:38:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine. Just a little back story. The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. You bastardise a bastardised form of the Faith? You are crossing a line here sir. Now you speak of the Faith, do not transgress further and claim you know the true Faith, for God chose us to bring His true words to the furthest stars of every galaxy. Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog! By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell. If you followed it Ida way you would not be in conflict with your own peoples. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
412
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Posted - 2013.09.03 09:50:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Do not lie to me Denak. We know that your front is a paramilitary organization that wishes to engage Federal forces in open or shadow violent conflict. We know that you are funded either directly or indirectly by participating in Caldari contracts.
I don't have control over the Black Eagles nor the Federation. I am just a pawn. We all are. Just a matter of who we're going to take down with us.
So you claim to know what the ILF does better than our Suresha? If you even glanced at our mission statement, , you could see that we do not have a desire to join the Caldari State, and our methods of achieving independence from the Federation are in peaceful means only, for the reason that the previous attempt (Caldari secession) ended in senseless bloodshed and a century of war.
I'm sorry but, you are the biggest, most idiotic, most ignorant fanatic I have ever seen. Calling yourself even half-Intaki is a disgrace to every single Intaki out there, and even by Gallente standards you are completely insane and paranoid. You spreading blatant lies of our corporation damages us, and only serves to show how corrupt you are because of your Gallente superiors.
DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog!
By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell.
"Amarr dog", and yet you claim to know the Ida faith? I give up, you're completely hopeless. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
101
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Posted - 2013.09.03 10:22:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine. Just a little back story. The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. You bastardise a bastardised form of the Faith? You are crossing a line here sir. Now you speak of the Faith, do not transgress further and claim you know the true Faith, for God chose us to bring His true words to the furthest stars of every galaxy. Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog! By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell. You cannot say that gallente people dont have faith or gods,i have strong faith in my own religion and i worship my own maker/god my own way.The only difference is that I do not force my faith on anyone, like ammarians do
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
412
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Posted - 2013.09.03 10:23:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:You cannot say that gallente people dont have faith or gods,i have strong faith in my own religion and i worship my own maker/god my own way.The only difference is that I do not force my faith on anyone, like ammarians do
He was talking about the Intaki faith, not Gallenteans in general. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1519
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Posted - 2013.09.03 10:36:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I find it ironic that a fellow Intaki is calling my corporation a terrorist organization when he hasn't shown a single evidence of us doing any terrorist acts. What is even more ironic is that an Amarrian is defending me, which I am thankful for, Mr. Adamance.
And where did you get the impression that we wish to join the Caldari State? Our goal is to secede from the Federation, establish an independent sovereignty over the Intaki planet and her colonies, without interference from the Federation, the State or any other empire.
And again, what has the Federation actually done to help us? They left us in lowsec at the mercy of pirates, let capsuleers wreak havoc in our lands in their stupid Empyrean War. The Ida faith encourages being thoughtful and thinking before you speak, but I am starting to run out of patience with you. Do you even speak Intaki or are you that much corrupted by the Gallente propaganda?
You ce terrorists, yet you are the one who thinks the Black Eagles "do what is right to keep the Federation safe" in the cost of their very own ideals they swore to protect. You are the one who is calling ME a terrorist, yet you think that executing a person in public by literally having his insides explode is what he deserved.
You are not Intaki, you are a pawn of the Gallente, and whatever shred of identity you have left to the Intaki is twisted into the abomination that is your morals. Intaki asuprab lokrajalok suprab -- a bad Intaki makes a good Gallentean. I am half Intaki and half Brutor(on my father's side). I grew up in an Intaki colony. I knew what it feels like to be at the constant whim of pirates. I lost parts of my memory when I became a 1st generation mercenary. I lost the ability to talk the native Intaki language, I even lost the ability to talk in the standard Federation language, I was mute. Until 8 months later, I visited a religious man from the Khanid Kindom. Long story short I regained the ability to talk, re learning Federation standard, I also became a born again member of a little known Khanid religious order, very similar to the Ancient Amarrian religion, before it was corrupted to make it appear Slavery was fine. Just a little back story. The Black Eagles keep the Federation free of radicals who would wish to separate it and turn it against it self. Kind of like you. The Intaki will one day be helped, but for now, many people don't want anymore public wars, as such Intaki space security will have to be re looked at. I have many theories on how it could be done. But you know how bureaucrats work, too damn slow. You bastardise a bastardised form of the Faith? You are crossing a line here sir. Now you speak of the Faith, do not transgress further and claim you know the true Faith, for God chose us to bring His true words to the furthest stars of every galaxy. Don't you talk down to me, Amarr dog! By the way, Ida is not a religion because we have no gods, no deities, we do not pray nor commit any other spiritual acts. Nor do we believe in a heaven or hell. You cannot say that gallente people dont have faith or gods,i have strong faith in my own religion and i worship my own maker/god my own way.The only difference is that I do not force my faith on anyone, like ammarians do I never made a comment about your Gods, only that he worships apparently a bastardised version of mine, and when you consider the Amarrian Faith there is no room for deviation.
However your god seems to be your own ego Sergamon, and I do not feel like arguing the semantics of the True Faith with yet another Gallentean who has proven himself to insane. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1477
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Posted - 2013.09.03 11:16:00 -
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The Gallente Federation, champions of freedom and grant every citizen personal liberty to do as he or she pleases . . . except to leave the Federation.
"Children of Amarr, Beloved of God Do not fear the dark heavens The stars are a sign unto you To bring the Light to dark places And so many wondrous lights we carry Illuminating peoples and worlds Know that our empire is holy Set apart for an immortal destiny Stand true, Children of Amarr Let the rays of our enlightenment Shine ever before the Almighty." Empress Jamyl Sarum I |
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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
101
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:30:00 -
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Mr adamance i did not commented your wrintings,i commented deadly aztecs writings.And when i tell that not every galletean lack faith or belives,how that make me egoistic? And that comment that ammarians force faith to everyone,i dont say every one in your culture does that and every one approve of slavery,but still the vast majority of ammarians do belive in slavery and force the belives and your ways every culture that your empire has captured and enslaved.And that is know fact trough-out new eden and when the people get freed from slave status,because i have heard stories from minmatar refugees and also ammarian defectors who has escaped from ammar empire,that there is many slaves in the empire, who have embraced the faith and follow the belives like the true ammarians.And still hasn`t lose their slave status,and also there has been people who has been more ammarian than real ammarians but still has died with slave status. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
413
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:32:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Mr adamance i did not commented your wrintings,i commented deadly aztecs writings.And when i tell that not every galletean lack faith or belives,how that make me egoistic? And that comment that ammarians force faith to everyone,i dont say every one in your culture does that and every one approve of slavery,but still the vast majority of ammarians do belive in slavery and force the belives and your ways every culture that your empire has captured and enslaved.And that is know fact trough-out new eden and when the people get freed from slave status,because i have heard stories from minmatar refugees and also ammarian defectors who has escaped from ammar empire,that there is many slaves in the empire, who have embraced the faith and follow the belives like the true ammarians.And still hasn`t lose their slave status,and also there has been people who has been more ammarian than real ammarians but still has died with slave status. And again, Aztec was not talking about your faith, nor about the general Gallentean faith. He was talking about the Intaki faith Ida, so this entire discussion is pointless really. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
101
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Posted - 2013.09.03 16:37:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:Mr adamance i did not commented your wrintings,i commented deadly aztecs writings.And when i tell that not every galletean lack faith or belives,how that make me egoistic? And that comment that ammarians force faith to everyone,i dont say every one in your culture does that and every one approve of slavery,but still the vast majority of ammarians do belive in slavery and force the belives and your ways every culture that your empire has captured and enslaved.And that is know fact trough-out new eden and when the people get freed from slave status,because i have heard stories from minmatar refugees and also ammarian defectors who has escaped from ammar empire,that there is many slaves in the empire, who have embraced the faith and follow the belives like the true ammarians.And still hasn`t lose their slave status,and also there has been people who has been more ammarian than real ammarians but still has died with slave status. And again, Aztec was not talking about your faith, nor about the general Gallentean faith. He was talking about the Intaki faith Ida, so this entire discussion is pointless really. Ok i admit i did make mistake when i read aztecs text. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1521
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:09:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Mr adamance i did not commented your wrintings,i commented deadly aztecs writings.And when i tell that not every galletean lack faith or belives,how that make me egoistic? And that comment that ammarians force faith to everyone,i dont say every one in your culture does that and every one approve of slavery,but still the vast majority of ammarians do belive in slavery and force the belives and your ways every culture that your empire has captured and enslaved.And that is know fact trough-out new eden and when the people get freed from slave status,because i have heard stories from minmatar refugees and also ammarian defectors who has escaped from ammar empire,that there is many slaves in the empire, who have embraced the faith and follow the belives like the true ammarians.And still hasn`t lose their slave status,and also there has been people who has been more ammarian than real ammarians but still has died with slave status. But Slavery is necessary for one to reach a more transcendent outlook.
In anycase you cannot justify his slanderous statements regarding the Intaki Liberation Front, a single corporation which is standing more for democracy, freedom, and the liberty of the Intaki people that the Federation ever has. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:37:00 -
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I am part Intaki myself. My mother was a survivor of the Waschi Uprising. To elaborate, her family was abandoned by the Federation simply for standing up for what they believe in, and found the Caldari to be their for them in their time of need.
The Caldari share a deep spiritual and cultural bond with the Intaki. We see eachother's faith as different understandings of the same truth. Truely, they have a better connection with us than they do with the Gallente. Caldari annexation of Intaki lands would make sense, but the State understands the importance of self determination. If we don't allow nations to choose their own fate, we are no better than the imperials. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1529
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Posted - 2013.09.03 19:51:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:I am part Intaki myself. My mother was a survivor of the Waschi Uprising. To elaborate, her family was abandoned by the Federation simply for standing up for what they believe in, and found the Caldari to be their for them in their time of need.
The Caldari share a deep spiritual and cultural bond with the Intaki. We see eachother's faith as different understandings of the same truth. Truely, they have a better connection with us than they do with the Gallente. Caldari annexation of Intaki lands would make sense, but the State understands the importance of self determination. If we don't allow nations to choose their own fate, we are no better than the imperials. Yet your view of the Empire are not necessarily shared by the predominant part of the Caldari people. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1425
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:28:00 -
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Shut up and speak only what you know.
You're making Gallenteans look stupid. |
Galm Fae
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
84
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I am part Intaki myself. My mother was a survivor of the Waschi Uprising. To elaborate, her family was abandoned by the Federation simply for standing up for what they believe in, and found the Caldari to be their for them in their time of need.
The Caldari share a deep spiritual and cultural bond with the Intaki. We see eachother's faith as different understandings of the same truth. Truely, they have a better connection with us than they do with the Gallente. Caldari annexation of Intaki lands would make sense, but the State understands the importance of self determination. If we don't allow nations to choose their own fate, we are no better than the imperials. Yet your view of the Empire are not necessarily shared by the predominant part of the Caldari people. While that is true, you misunderstand. My comment on imperialism is any empire that insists on expanding its reach by subjegating foreign lands. I was alluding to the actions of the Federation, though I have made it clear in the past that I do not approve of Amarr expansionalism. The Caldari have never looked favorably upon invaders. Spirits, even the Achurian joined the Caldari not out of an imperial mindset, but to instill protection against potental Federation occupation |
DeadlyAztec11
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
2114
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Galm Fae wrote:I am part Intaki myself. My mother was a survivor of the Waschi Uprising. To elaborate, her family was abandoned by the Federation simply for standing up for what they believe in, and found the Caldari to be their for them in their time of need.
The Caldari share a deep spiritual and cultural bond with the Intaki. We see eachother's faith as different understandings of the same truth. Truely, they have a better connection with us than they do with the Gallente. Caldari annexation of Intaki lands would make sense, but the State understands the importance of self determination. If we don't allow nations to choose their own fate, we are no better than the imperials. Yet your view of the Empire are not necessarily shared by the predominant part of the Caldari people. The Amarr have got to be the least liked of the Empires. Both the Caldari and us the Gallante have a love triangle with the Minmatar. The Amarr are kind of out of the loop. Us Gallante tolerate them because we are afraid that if we go into full out conflict, the Caldari might take the chance to attack us at the same time. We could always get the Minmatar to attack the Amarrian, unfortunately we do not currently posses enough leverage for them to attack the Caldari.
Yep, classic Brutor stand off.
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XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
242
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Posted - 2013.09.03 21:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:
Yep, classic Brutor stand off.
Hey, I resent that remark! Most of those don't end in stand offs! |
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